Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

[IndraD]

Perhaps the plan was to create stampede and use the ensuing chaos to assassinate Modi. Even if IM were the executors, the schemers could very well be the Congress folks and their involvement should be thoroughly investigated. BJP needs to raise hue and cry for any steps to be taken towards a proper investigation and not yet another cover up that the regime at the centre is well known for.

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[Singha]

ok ok we will back off. was just getting worried if the BB sw can handle such a large thread. will be a good stress test.

[krishnan]

Perhaps the plan was to create stampede and use the ensuing chaos to assassinate Modi. Even if IM were the executors, the schemers could very well be the Congress folks and their involvement should be thoroughly investigated. BJP needs to raise hue and cry for any steps to be taken towards a proper investigation and not yet another cover up that the regime at the centre is well known for.

assassinating him wasnt the reason , creating fear in mind of public was, now every rally at least 50% will think before attending. if they wanted to , they could have put bigger bombs , more than a dozen

[krishnan]

i have a person in mind who might be behind this , but i am not naming him

[RajeshA]

Another point NaMo made during Patna Rally

- He said there have been many Union Railway Ministers from Bihar but he knows more about Railways than them as he worked as a chaiwallah and sold tea to passengers.

What he is doing is contesting Nitish Kumar's assertion that it is not enough to be born into an OBC family. In order to be an OBC leader, one (say Modi) has to fight for their rights as well (but Modi is a candidate of Big Industry, and as such not an OBC leader.

Modi has reversed the roles. He has projected Nitish Kumar as the ultimate high authority - a Railways Minister, and himself as the lowest worker - as a chaiwallah boy.

NaMo doesn't project his OBC or Poorman background directly. He often knits the message differently in his speeches.

[Shanmukh]

RM-ji, Let me posit a counter theory before you.

1. We survived 200 years of British and 60 years of Congress without a great deal of conversions. I hope that you will agree that the missionaries have had no limits on their power thus far. NaMo is unlikely to be any worse than the Congress. If just a few years more years of missionaries are sufficient to destroy Hindu civilisation, then it is doomed anyway. No civilisation that cannot stand on its own legs against the world will survive.

2. Hindu civilisation has been standing firm for thousands of years, against hundreds of invaders of all stamps. And you have the effrontery to pretend that 10 years of NaMo will simply destroy this vast civilisation, as if it is a house of cards. How do you propose NaMo and missionaries will convert Hindus to Christians? Will they bring back the inquisition? Well - let me remind you, we survived even that without any great effect. Will they re-institute the policies of Aurangzeb? I have news for you - the Congress has already done that and we have survived without any great damage. Will they emulate Timur-i-Lang and demand that Hindus convert or die? Do they have enough bullets to kill a billion of us?

3. RM-ji, you insult the intelligence and the integrity of the average Hindu with your claims. They will no more succumb to the wiles or bribes of any missionaries or MNCs of today, than they did to that of their predecessors who ruled us until 70 years ago. They will not change their religion for NaMo or for anyone else.

If you have no faith in the Hindus, and if you believe that all that is needed for them to give up their way of life is for the MNCs and their missionaries to appear, then perhaps you should specify your reasons why you harbour such a poor opinion of the Hindus.

Word "survival" needs aexamination. Once Hindu civilization was from border of Iran to Phillipines. And now 50% has been lost. And between 1700-1947, we lost Pakistan and Bangladesh as well i.e. Hindus were forced to flee from those areas. And before our own eyes in past 60 years, we lost half the Kashmir and half the Asam, in terms of demographic changes.

If you go sufficiently back, the Indo-European civilisation spread from the Baltic to the Pacific - even today, Lettish and Lithuanian have more in common with Sanskrit than any other language in existence.. But the areas outside the Indian subcontinent are areas where we could do nothing to stop the changes occurring there. Unless you want to create India as a superpower that guards the interests of all non-Abrahamic religions. And doing that - well, it is a long distance off.

Secondly, I would still rate most of South East Asia, including predominantly Muslim Indonesia, to be Indic still.

Finally, the loss of Pakistan and Bangladesh had nothing to do with MNCs or missionaries, which is the point we were discussing. Pakistan and Bangladesh did not split away because they were led there by MNCs or missionaries.

We survived British attempt to Christianize India because of frictions between jews-protestents-catholic and frictions between UK-France-Germany-USA-Italy. Because of these frictions, after 1860, all MNC-owners in Europe decided not to help Missionaries.

Where on earth did you get these facts from? Missionaries and MNCs during the heydays of colonialism were far more entwined than they are today. Have you tried reading the accounts of how colonialism worked in Africa (just see how Rhodes and the missionaries worked together in Southern Africa - from the Cape to the Zembezi, or how Belgian missionaries operated in Zaire with the full backing of the rubber and lumber barons of their native country), or the French at work in today's Vietnam, or British in Sarawak. Today, the MNC bosses are often more wedded to profits than to any religious organisations. Given a choice between profits and religion, they will choose profit *every time*.

Coming to the intra-Christian and Christian-Jew confrontations, none of them have been resolved. In Uganda, the Catholics and the Protestants have turned the machine guns on each other. In fact, the Jews are today more worried than ever about missionaries. Just take a look at what the Jews think of `Jews for Jesus' (an organisation devoted to converting Jews to Christianity). In Israel, they have appeared on the doorsteps of the homes of dead Jewish soldiers, offering cash and other goodies if the families will convert to Christianity. The Christian right is trying appropriate Jewish religious symbols and absorb Judaism into itself. The Jewish alliance with the Christian right in the US is all about political convenience. Just scratch beneath the surface, and you will find that they loathe each other.

The frictions ended in 1950, and so after 1950 , MNC-owners agreed to help Missionaries en-masse. And SoKo has been their first major achievement. IOW, Missionaries didnt get help from MNC-owners between 1860-1950 , and now they are getting it. So its a whole new ball game now. Just because we survived them till 1950 and till 2010 doesnt mean we an survive them now. (MNC-owners + Missionaries) are some 10 times stronger now and they are united now.

A lot of claims, and no facts.

Anyway, you seem to agreeing that "NaMo would indeed open all gates for MNC-owners and Missionaries to enter into India". So we disagree only on after effects. You seem to say that Indics can thwart them under existing laws. Well, we cant. The existing legal setup over Devalayas makes Devalaya weak compared to Churches aided by MNC-owners . And I havent seen any draft from NaMo to reduce advantage Churches have or to strengthen Devalaya. So with jun-2014, as MNC-owners and Missionaries entries increase in India, Devayala's receding back will increase.

I have made no claims about Modi's actions regarding religious matters. It is you who is making the claim that Modi will invite all MNCs and missionaries to convert Hindus (without an ounce of evidence, in fact). Devalayas have been weaker in the past, and we still have not suffered any great number of conversions. And you are speaking like a politician - all claims, no facts, and certainly no answers to questions. I asked you why you believe that Hindus are weak and easily converted by missionaries, when history suggests the opposite. You have not answered it.

[SwamyG]

it was biggest rally after the delhi one and a direct challenge to Niku's backyard...so media would be there.

http://www.niticentral.com/2013/09/27/s ... 38365.html

NitiCentral has collected images from all the rallies, the crowd swell is impressive. Wow, even Trichy looks darn good.

[vivek.rao]

From Gujarat to India: Is Modi the tallest Congress leader now?

By Akshay Mishra.

Don't even click on this. This guy is on top of list of PAIDMEDIA journos.

He used to spew so much hate on Modi.

For a while, he changed his tack.

This will be new tack of PAIDMEDIA. He is being nice to Muslims. What is the difference? He is not calling them terrorists. OMG... How all the yindoos mental people are going to like him now?

Just like people here vent how Modi will turn into vajpayee or how Modi will convert all us into Christians, he has track record of whatever he has done in Gujarat.

[abhishek_sharma]

From UnReal Times

[SwamyG]

Archive it now, hopefully it is the BRF jinx that will get Modi 493/494 seats just kidding. Naah, maybe BJP will get half of it -247 which is kinda ok

Thanks to the moderators for having this dhaaga.

[a_bharat]

Perhaps the plan was to create stampede and use the ensuing chaos to assassinate Modi. Even if IM were the executors, the schemers could very well be the Congress folks and their involvement should be thoroughly investigated. BJP needs to raise hue and cry for any steps to be taken towards a proper investigation and not yet another cover up that the regime at the centre is well known for.

assassinating him wasnt the reason , creating fear in mind of public was, now every rally at least 50% will think before attending. if they wanted to , they could have put bigger bombs , more than a dozen

There was a report that one of the terrorists captured got injured while wearing suicide vest. If this report is true, then most likely the plan was for assassinating of Modi.

[Sushupti]

[Sushupti]

[Sushupti]

Patna blasts: Basic security arrangements were missing for Modi rally

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/patna-blasts ... ef_article

[Sushupti]

Gravy Train of Eminent Historians about to end

Now in its last stages, the party is in the hands near illiterates namely, Sonia Gandhi and Rahul Gandhi. No self-respecting scholar can work under such conditions. No wonder Dr. Abdul Kalam refused to have anything to do with it, withdrawing from the Nalanda University after Amartya Sen took control. This may be deplorable from an intellectual point of view, but it is tailor made for opportunists like Ananthamurthy, Girish Karnad and even Amartya Sen for all his intellectual pretensions. From this it is not hard to infer that Anathamurthy’s outburst against Narendra Modi was meant to attract the attention of Rahul and Sonia Gandhi.

These being uneducated non-performers, they tend to entertain and patronize courtiers and flatterers like Ananthamurthy and Karnad. These and other ‘intellectuals’ fear that Modi might get rid of this cozy arrangement and send them packing. Ideology and scholarship have nothing to do with their cry of saffronization. The cry is an expression of fear that the days of easy money in the name of secularism and saffronization may be over. If so, it is a welcome development, long overdue.

http://www.indiafacts.co.in/gravy-train ... ut-to-end/

[johneeG]

About the blast: 3 angles to probe
a) Motive: who benefits? (all the people who stand to lose if NaMo comes to power)
b) Means: who has the capability? (in desh, jihadhis and naxals are known to have such capabilities. jihadhis and naxals have political patrons and international connections.)
c) Opportunity: who had the chance?

Means has further 3 angles:
a) Facilitation: who allowed the op to go on? (local sarkaar is in docks for this)
b) Blast: who actually performed it? (IB says it is IM)
c) Cover up: who will help the culprits escape? (kongis are known to underplay the threat of IMs).

Opportunity has following facets:
a) Timing: perhaps, because the Namo opponents have run out of options against him.
b) Location: not ruled by Kongis. So, the immediate blame goes to the local sarkaar. If the people turn into a rampaging mob, even then the location is at a safe distance from dilli, so lutyens are safe.
c) Circumstance: ?

It is indeed remarkable that the rally went on despite so many(6, right?) blast in that very ground. Really, kudos to Namo, BJP workers and the people.

But, it may also have because the blasts were underestimated. The initial reports by MSM(perhaps, deliberately) was to underplay the blasts. The first reports said that the blasts were in railway station and not the ground. Then, they said that there were crackers in the ground. Then, they said that blasts were very near the ground. Now, it is coming out that there were serial blasts within the ground. This is a most direct attack. And a vicious one. The bodycount could have been much much more. Thankfully, it was not.

'Great restraint in the face of extreme provocation.' But, don't know whether its good or bad. Its good that the situation did not become something like Egypt. But, the perpetrators may be emboldened by the fact that there was no immediate reaction. So, there was no deterrent for the perpetrators to be afraid of. So, they may try it again. But, I think they will not try it in next rally. Instead, they will see if there was any impact of these blasts on crowd attendance. If the crowds continue to sore, then there will be another attempt. I think NaMo needs to be more prepared. I am sure he would have done a lot behind the scenes to counter these threats.

Its sheer luck that things went off pretty smoothly despite so many blasts. Condolences to the near and dear ones of the dead, but it could have been much much worse.

I am actually amazed that they are being so brazen. I mean there was an open threat by one kongi(Dhivedhi). Raul tried to pre-empt the fall out by posing himself as being under a death threat.

The biggest fool seems to be Nikamma. I mean the people's ire would turn to him immediately. He is a fool not to see it. And if the heat is too much, kongis would throw him under a bus without batting an eyelid(just as they did with Lallu) to save their own skin. And what exactly is Nikamma gaining? He is way down in the hierarchy. He is no where near the PM seat. CBN, Mamtha, Jaya, and Maya are much higher on the hierarchy and much closer to the PM seat. Jaya and CBN are tilting towards NDA. Mamtha and Maya are sitting tight without disclosing their cards. But, this Nikamma comes across as amateur. He is doing nanga naach and losing all his credibility and goodwill among the voters(Biharis). Look at Pranab! He too seems to have ambitions. But, he is also being very cautious. And he is also kept his distance from the tainted italians and kongis. In contrast, Nikamma wants to ally with this tainted italians. It just does not make sense to me. I think he has taken things too personally.

Anyway, now the fight between kongi and NaMo is aar-paar. It will be either kongis or NaMo. As soon as the kongis lag behind NaMo with more than 40 seats, then the kongis won't have the control over their B teams. The B teams will develop their own mind. If the difference is more than 60 seats, then even the kongi B teams will be ready to join NDA.(But will place pre-conditions). If the difference is more than 75, NaMo will be in the driving seat, thats it.

So, if the kongis get 110(which is extremely difficult for them right now, I expect them to get 75-80) and NaMo gets 170(which is possible) then NaMo will make sarkaar and some Kongi B teams will be part of NDA.

I was impressed by NaMo's speech. It was a very good speech. He started off with soft-Hindhuthva. He talked about Seetha-amma and Anjaneya. (But, didn't mention Shri Rama ). Basically, for those who said that he was becoming too secular, he tried to send a signal. Then, most of his speech was concentrated on Nikamma. I thought that would be his strategy. The thing is that wherever NaMo goes, he addresses the local issues. In Vihar, the main opponent is Nikamma. So, it was a right strategy to go after him. In Vihar, Shahzadha is a non-entity. So, no point in attacking him. But, going after Nikamma is tricky because he has been an erstwhile ally. NaMo managed it pretty well.

He tried to assure the Yadhavas that they will be welcome in BJP, yet he also insisted that he was not going to promote caste-based politics. Basically, he said that Yadhavas can bank on BJP and BJP will deliver. But, it won't become a caste-based political party. What he is promising is development.

Many mullahs seem to be wanting to side with the NaMo. This is an old phenomenon. Some mullahs invariably side with the winner, so as to provide protection from inside. They fear that if none of them are part of the establishment than their power will be eroded. Such guys have been making some noise for sometime. Kongis seem to panicking by this phenomenon. Because, they have more or less lost all the Hindhu factions(including SC, ST and BC). Even the erstwhile loyal kongi Hindhus seem to be moving away to other alternatives. The only ones who still support the kongis are those who seem to have some vested interests. The other group that supports the kongis are jihadhis and EJs. So, kongis are panicking when some jihadhis may want to side with the winning horse(NaMo). That may explain the timing of the blast.

NaMo also projected himself as not just pro-poor but one who actually is one among the poor.

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My bro's theory (no inside info, just airy fairy theory):
My bro: It seems NaMo was asked by the potential allies to not raise the issue of Ram Mandhir. They may have asked for some face saver. So, NaMo may have decided not to raise it. Notice that from the time TDP tilted towards Lotus, Lotus seems to have stopped raising Ram mandhir issue. May be CBN asked for this and in return promised to bring more allies...
Me: So, if NaMo compromises even before he gets to power, then he may do so after he gets the power also...
My bro: Once, he gets to power, he will have lot of power at his disposal. But the critical thing is the number of seats that he can get. If he gets 200 on his own, then he will set the agenda, otherwise there will be some compromises. Anyway, NaMo can be trusted to do whats right when the time comes, regardless of what he has to say to get the votes. He can say whatever he wants to get to power, but he must deliver once he comes to power.
Me: Bajpayee wasted the opportunity. I only hope that NaMo doesn't do the same. But, atleast, he is koti koti times better than kongis and their B teams. But, what will NaMo do when the Kongis bring communal riots bill?
My bro: even other parties are against it, it will be defeated anyway.
Me: kongis want to polarize, so even if the bill is defeated they don't care. So, kongis are going to polarize anyway, even if NaMo wants to avoid it. I say the best bet is to go with Hindhuthva in the last lap. I thought thats what NaMo will do...

[SaiK]

Perhaps the plan was to create stampede and use the ensuing chaos to assassinate Modi. Even if IM were the executors, the schemers could very well be the Congress folks and their involvement should be thoroughly investigated. BJP needs to raise hue and cry for any steps to be taken towards a proper investigation and not yet another cover up that the regime at the centre is well known for.

assassinating him wasnt the reason , creating fear in mind of public was, now every rally at least 50% will think before attending. if they wanted to , they could have put bigger bombs , more than a dozen

correct:

“I fell unconscious for a while when the blast took place. When I regained consciousness, I started screaming, bomb phata [bomb has exploded]! Had I anticipated any danger I would never have come for this rally. I am not going to attend any more rallies. I have wife and four children to take care of,” said Mr. Mistry, who works as a repairman.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/p ... elatedNews

I think it is better to use scanned entries, sniffing dogs, for all rallies and meets. prevention is better than cure.

BTW, team modi should also think about weekly online rallies!! just arrange ISPs, NAPs, to provide broadcast/multicast service. But, I agree there is nothing like connecting with public. rallies are important for political elections.

This fear mongering is against democracy. INC and bihar gov is responsible for this.

This ain't democracy by the mafia gov.

[abhishek_sharma]

Faking News: Shinde requests terrorists to attack on days he has no social commitments

[M Joshi]

Please dont archive the thread. Let it be here till the poll.

+1. This is a one of a kind thread. I don't think this kind of thread was ever there in BRF, or will be in foreseeable future.

Breaking this thread into multiples is akin to watching post-interval Sholay as a separate movie, and released a day after the pre-interval part.

[Sushupti]

[Sushupti]

[Dilbu]

I thought Modi had Z+ security. Doesn't that come with mobile jammers and stuff? There was not even metal detectors. It is just plain luck that saved the day this time. Modi should be careful. Very very careful from now on.

[chaanakya]

NaMo mentioned Nalanda and Taxila as Universities in Bihar. Actually these are Nalanda and Vikramshila whereas Taxila is now in Pakistan. Minor mistake though.

[archan]

Yup, quite disappointed. He should have had his own security. I bet he can afford it, with the wealthy NRI backing he is supposed to be riding on. BJP should at least now realize how critical this man's security is. He is challenging an entire system, a huge establishment. It will get uglier by the day.

[harbans]

I thought Modi had Z+ security. Doesn't that come with mobile jammers and stuff?

After Modi arrived, no more blasts took place, including the one below the podium (?). Possibly the Jammers did the work after all. If NM had left from the airport the Jammers too wouldn't have arrived and possibly more blasts at the venue along with the one in the podium itself, possibly with causalities amongst some BJP leaders itself.

[Atri]

NaMo mentioned Nalanda and Taxila as Universities in Bihar. Actually these are Nalanda and Vikramshila whereas Taxila is now in Pakistan. Minor mistake though.

Parivar does not recognize partition.. Refer to Seedhi baat interview of Mohan Bhagwat for latest stand of parivar..

in MB's own words - Ye (Pakistan) ek transitory baat hai, jaldi hi badal jaayegi..

[RajeshA]

Me: So, if NaMo compromises even before he gets to power, then he may do so after he gets the power also...
My bro: Once, he gets to power, he will have lot of power at his disposal. But the critical thing is the number of seats that he can get. If he gets 200 on his own, then he will set the agenda, otherwise there will be some compromises. Anyway, NaMo can be trusted to do whats right when the time comes, regardless of what he has to say to get the votes. He can say whatever he wants to get to power, but he must deliver once he comes to power.

johneeG ji,

I agree w/ your brother.

We Hindus need to understand the issue of claims. We should never dilute our claims. We can however postpone them to a time when we have the capability to realize them.

In the meantime we should do everything for gaining power and for consolidating power for the Bharatiya core. One can try to build power even when not being in power, as RSS has been doing quietly for many years, however its like making sand castles in a storm if one does not have power.

[Karan M]

Yup, quite disappointed. He should have had his own security. I bet he can afford it, with the wealthy NRI backing he is supposed to be riding on. BJP should at least now realize how critical this man's security is. He is challenging an entire system, a huge establishment. It will get uglier by the day.

Just amazing though.. how the ugly side of the establishment is so open now.. 8 years back, I was very optimistic when MMS & co came into power.. after what has been done, I only hope the system can be cleansed

[Karan M]

NaMo mentioned Nalanda and Taxila as Universities in Bihar. Actually these are Nalanda and Vikramshila whereas Taxila is now in Pakistan. Minor mistake though.

Parivar does not recognize partition.. Refer to Seedhi baat interview of Mohan Bhagwat for latest stand of parivar..

in MB's own words - Ye (Pakistan) ek transitory baat hai, jaldi hi badal jaayegi..

Probably OT.. but if the parivaar wants Pak back as it is, to be within India.. then they are being really silly (to put it mildly)..

[Atri]

Parivar does not recognize partition.. Refer to Seedhi baat interview of Mohan Bhagwat for latest stand of parivar..

in MB's own words - Ye (Pakistan) ek transitory baat hai, jaldi hi badal jaayegi..

Probably OT.. but if the parivaar wants Pak back as it is, to be within India.. then they are being really silly (to put it mildly)..

OT reply - when pak is back in India, it won't be "as it is".. there will be very necessary changes. In words of sri ABV - "Zameen ko Samtal karna padega, tabhi to yajna ka aayojan hoga".. Pak, as it is, cannot be in India. and when that part of geography eventually returns within official domain of India, there won't be a "pak" nor there will be any "nazariya-e-pak"..

[Yagnasri]

Ask any poor Pakistani. He or she most likely to be wishing to live in India than in Pakistan. It is an unnatural creation. The elite among pakis never tried to build any idea of a nation. How long it can continue with hate india as its only reason is the question.

[muraliravi]

OT reply - when pak is back in India, it won't be "as it is".. there will be very necessary changes. In words of sri ABV - "Zameen ko Samtal karna padega, tabhi to yajna ka aayojan hoga".. Pak, as it is, cannot be in India. and when that part of geography eventually returns within official domain of India, there won't be a "pak" nor there will be any "nazariya-e-pak"..

Atri ji,

It will centuries of determined hindu missionaries to convert pakistan and bangladesh back to hinduism. Something that we are not even seeing traces of today.

[Sushupti]

[Sushupti]

Patna blasts showed Modi's leadership, Nitish's ineptness

http://m.firstpost.com/politics/patna-b ... 98377.html

[Sushupti]

[Muppalla]

Yup, quite disappointed. He should have had his own security. I bet he can afford it, with the wealthy NRI backing he is supposed to be riding on. BJP should at least now realize how critical this man's security is. He is challenging an entire system, a huge establishment. It will get uglier by the day.

This has to be really be clear. The ones after him are a very determined lot with cover from governments. The Bihar government would not have allowed the private security.

[vivek.rao]

About the blast: 3 angles to probe


'Great restraint in the face of extreme provocation.' But, don't know whether its good or bad. Its good that the situation did not become something like Egypt. But, the perpetrators may be emboldened by the fact that there was no immediate reaction. So, there was no deterrent for the perpetrators to be afraid of. So, they may try it again. But, I think they will not try it in next rally. Instead, they will see if there was any impact of these blasts on crowd attendance. If the crowds continue to sore, then there will be another attempt. I think NaMo needs to be more prepared. I am sure he would have done a lot behind the scenes to counter these threats.

Its sheer luck that things went off pretty smoothly despite so many blasts. Condolences to the near and dear ones of the dead, but it could have been much much worse.

Same thinking here. If they see there is not much public reaction, MAFIA will go ahead with its plan.

I am actually amazed that they are being so brazen. I mean there was an open threat by one kongi(Dhivedhi). Raul tried to pre-empt the fall out by posing himself as being under a death threat.

The biggest fool seems to be Nikamma. I mean the people's ire would turn to him immediately. He is a fool not to see it. And if the heat is too much, kongis would throw him under a bus without batting an eyelid(just as they did with Lallu) to save their own skin. And what exactly is Nikamma gaining? He is way down in the hierarchy. He is no where near the PM seat. CBN, Mamtha, Jaya, and Maya are much higher on the hierarchy and much closer to the PM seat. Jaya and CBN are tilting towards NDA. Mamtha and Maya are sitting tight without disclosing their cards. But, this Nikamma comes across as amateur. He is doing nanga naach and losing all his credibility and goodwill among the voters(Biharis). Look at Pranab! He too seems to have ambitions. But, he is also being very cautious. And he is also kept his distance from the tainted italians and kongis. In contrast, Nikamma wants to ally with this tainted italians. It just does not make sense to me. I think he has taken things too personally.

This puzzles me.

I think Niku thought he will become PM. He has been egged on by CONGis, some BJP insiders that election will be hung and they will propose his name. He was dreaming of PM position like Chadrasekhar(*) from Bihar. I think he believed that if CONgis get 100-110 seats and BJP is managed with 130-150 seats, he can become PM. So he went ahead with the split and he can't digest Modi's chances are going up day by day. He will regret it on the day he is in jail like Laloo. He drank too much Kool-aid from sickular club of COMMIES, PAIDMEDIA, Libtards and CONGis that Modi will polarize Muslims and BJP can't manage more than 140 seats.

But letting terrorists kill your political opponents by not providing enough security shows his mindset.

* Little nugget: When Chandraskhar became interim PM, it seems he started calling every one he knew in the US to tell that he become PM. I met one family who told me that they know Chandrasekhar's family (not very close). It seems they were stunned when they received the call from PMO and then Chandrasekhar spoke to them. It is not like he ever called them or they ever called him.

My bro's theory (no inside info, just airy fairy theory):
My bro: It seems NaMo was asked by the potential allies to not raise the issue of Ram Mandhir. They may have asked for some face saver. So, NaMo may have decided not to raise it. Notice that from the time TDP tilted towards Lotus, Lotus seems to have stopped raising Ram mandhir issue. May be CBN asked for this and in return promised to bring more allies...
Me: So, if NaMo compromises even before he gets to power, then he may do so after he gets the power also...
My bro: Once, he gets to power, he will have lot of power at his disposal. But the critical thing is the number of seats that he can get. If he gets 200 on his own, then he will set the agenda, otherwise there will be some compromises. Anyway, NaMo can be trusted to do whats right when the time comes, regardless of what he has to say to get the votes. He can say whatever he wants to get to power, but he must deliver once he comes to power.
Me: Bajpayee wasted the opportunity. I only hope that NaMo doesn't do the same. But, atleast, he is koti koti times better than kongis and their B teams. But, what will NaMo do when the Kongis bring communal riots bill?
My bro: even other parties are against it, it will be defeated anyway.
Me: kongis want to polarize, so even if the bill is defeated they don't care. So, kongis are going to polarize anyway, even if NaMo wants to avoid it. I say the best bet is to go with Hindhuthva in the last lap. I thought thats what NaMo will do...

He has to say the right things. He should not talk about these issues. He is 100% nationalist 100% loyal to the faith. Just keep your faith. He proved beyond doubt that he will only do the right things for the nation.

The sickulars are trying to egg on him to say the wrong things. If he says even 1% controversial they will go to town with making up stories as how dangerous he is. NYTimes uses his Reuters interview to argue against him.

The pattern is similar. One Libtard makes up a LIE or twists Gujarat statistic or twists Modi's statement. Then another Libtard refrs it and repeats Modi is communal blah blah. Another Lobtard cites them as evidence. The strategy is now used by NYTimes.

The election will polarize. CONGis want to polarize. If not, SP/BSP/RLD will walk away with Muslim votes. Modi&BJP need to only send signals to Hindus. People are watching this and will react to even subtle hints.

[chaanakya]

NaMo mentioned Nalanda and Taxila as Universities in Bihar. Actually these are Nalanda and Vikramshila whereas Taxila is now in Pakistan. Minor mistake though.

Parivar does not recognize partition.. Refer to Seedhi baat interview of Mohan Bhagwat for latest stand of parivar..

in MB's own words - Ye (Pakistan) ek transitory baat hai, jaldi hi badal jaayegi..

The point is Taxila is not in present day Bihar But yes Bihar or Magadh Empire did extent to Afganistan so if looking from taht point , it is subtle piskology, probably.

[SaiK]

Yup, quite disappointed. He should have had his own security. I bet he can afford it, with the wealthy NRI backing he is supposed to be riding on. BJP should at least now realize how critical this man's security is. He is challenging an entire system, a huge establishment. It will get uglier by the day.

may be he is not following with obama model completely! he is stepping into areas, where he thinks brotherhood is global.

[SaiK]

[quote="Atri"||quote="chaanakya"]NaMo mentioned Nalanda and Taxila as Universities in Bihar. Actually these are Nalanda and Vikramshila whereas Taxila is now in Pakistan. Minor mistake though. /quote]

Parivar does not recognize partition.. Refer to Seedhi baat interview of Mohan Bhagwat for latest stand of parivar..

in MB's own words - Ye (Pakistan) ek transitory baat hai, jaldi hi badal jaayegi..

The point is Taxila is not in present day Bihar But yes Bihar or Magadh Empire did extent to Afganistan so if looking from taht point , it is subtle piskology, probably.[/quote]
arrey chodo yaaR! if balatkaar can become brashtachaar, why not taxila become vikramshila?
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