Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

[Sushupti]

Indian Mujahideen’s Ranchi module formed to assassinate Narendra Modi, probe reveals


http://m.timesofindia.com/india/Indian- ... 953857.cms

[member_19686]

Modi’s quotatation from Mawlana Hali
BY SARVESH K TIWARI

Hearing the speech that lAT naresha delivered from pATaliputra in the campaign to snatch the rAjadaNDa of bhAratavarSha from the dasyus of chAchA’s party, we were struck by his usage of a farsi-laden urdu couplet which he had meant to apply in praise of how India and in particular the plains of Ganga had bravely halted the victory march of the invaders.

Hardly anybody has understood the couplet if we are to go by the commentaries that have been produced for or against the sense of history demonstrated by NaMo; most have ignorantly taken the couplet to be pointing towards the campaign of the Alexander the Great, not realizing the true context of the lines.

Therefore this short note on this once well-known couplet from an urdu tome written in 1879 by a comrade of Sir Sayyid Ahmed Khan by latter’s inspiration.

vo dIn-e hijAzI kA be-bAk beDA
nishAn jis kA aqsA-e Alam me pahunchA
mazAhim hu-A ko-I khatrA na jis kA
nA ummAn me ThiThakA na qulzum me jhijhka
ki-e pai sipar jisne sAton samandar
vo DUbA dahAne me Ganga ke A kar

Above lines make for the 113th musaddas in the diwan written by Mawlana Khwaja Altaf Husain ‘Hali’, entitled Madd-o-Jazr-i-Islam (“The Flow and Ebb of Islam”), more commonly known as Musaddas-i-Hali. A musaddas is a monorhymed 6-legged persian meter often employed for reading mersiya, the verses of ritualistic lamentation of the Shi’a-s on Muharram.

The above quoted lines represent a lamentation of the poet over what became of that victorious march of Islam against which no obstacle could withstand anywhere in the world but which simply fizzled out as it reached the shores of India:

That audacious armada of the religion of Hijaz -
Whose insignia reached every corner of the world
Which learnt no obstruction from any fear
Which felt no hesitation in Persian Gulf or faltered in the Red Sea
Which valiantly crossed all the seven oceans
Oh, drwoned was that armada (of Islam), when it reached the mouth of Ganga!

This is the context and literal translation of the lines quoted by the lAT naresha.

http://bharatendu.com/2013/10/30/modis- ... lana-hali/

[fanne]

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-we ... al-1911520

So if there is EVM magic, this is how it will go down in 2014. AAP spoils enough for BJP in Delhi that congress to pull through (courtesy EVM). He repeats that (EVM again) in Mumbai, Banglore, Other odd urban center (Chandigarh, Lucknow etc) and make 25 -30 seats either go congress way or AAP way. Then AAP in name of secularism supports Cong. Sounds like an old movie you have seen (starring Chiranjivi), you bet it is.

[member_19686]

Crash course to show India's Christians how to vote
Will it have any impact on the 2014 election?

John Dayal, India
India
September 10, 2013

Great hope is being pinned on a recently launched crash course in electoral politics for the Christian, particularly the Catholic, population in India to prepare them for the general elections scheduled for early 2014.

The object is to counter and, if possible, defeat right wing Hindu nationalist groups who are making a determined bid to wrest political power in New Delhi in the general elections. The Church leadership and laity are being told how they can synergize their voting strength in select constituencies in collaboration with other groups in so as not to divide what is said to be the “secular vote”.

This, it is presumed, will help defeat the political parties with a history of antagonism towards religious minorities.

This political exercise has been undertaken by a small group in the Archdiocese of Delhi working with representatives of Protestant churches and Muslim religious leaders, apart from a handful of civil society activists.

But members of the core lay team spearheading this campaign in applied democracy have their work cut out. They face problems ranging from rank incredulity on the one hand to the passive disinterest of people who feel they are too few to make any impact. The upshot is that many feel they will not be missed if they don’t vote. This feeling of resignation could have far reaching consequences.

The Christian community in India is so small as to seem irrelevant. At 25 million people, it accounts for only 2.3 per cent of the national population, or one fifth of India’s largest and politically powerful Muslim minority community. While there might be more Christians than Sikhs, the Sikh community is concentrated in Punjab from where they control the state legislature and government, and can have their voice heard decisively in the country’s parliament.

In contrast, the states where Christians are a substantial proportion of the population – Meghalaya, Mizoram, Nagaland, Goa and Kerala -- are themselves politically miniscule, with a total of less than 30 seats in the 543-member Lok Sabha. Uttar Pradesh alone, for example, has 80 seats.

Historically, the Christian community, with some individuals as exceptions, has been considered close to the Indian National Congress. It was loyal to Mahatma Gandhi and to Jawaharlal Nehru, the first prime minister of the country. And over the decades it has to an extent remained loyal to Indira Gandhi and her Nehru-Gandhi clan, which controls the ruling Congress Party, though no one of the clan holds any ministerial position at present.

The opposition parties, especially the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party, have jeered at Congress Party president Sonia Gandhi for her Italian Catholic origins, but the Christian community itself has derived no advantage from this connection.

There have been no Christian chief ministers of any major state in the past, other than of the tiny three in the north east, and Goa and Kerala on the west coast. In other areas, disempowerment of Tribal Christians continues to be a sad fact of life, and Dalit Christians in particular feel betrayed by the Congress-ruled federal government.

There is a deep seated feeling that development funds for religious minorities have been sluiced to the Muslim community, deemed to be a “vote bank” of Congress and Samajwadi political parties, at the cost of the silent Christians. This by itself failed to arouse the community for years.

The turning point, one feels, was the anti-Christian violence in Kandhamal in Orissa state in 2007 and 2008. The sheer magnitude of the violence shocked the community and its religious and secular leadership out of their torpor.

There had been more than 20,000 “communal” riots, or religion-based acts of mass violence, since 1947, but the victims in almost all of them were Muslims. The Sikh community was the victim of mass violence in 1984 following the assassination of prime minister Indira Gandhi by her Sikh bodyguards.

Though there had been thousands of sporadic and isolated acts of violence against pastors, priests and nuns, there had been just one case of mass violence, and that in Tamil Nadu. Kandhamal suddenly made the Christian community aware of its vulnerability.

The lack of an adequate and comforting response from civil society and political parties also made it clear to the Christians that they really had no political voice, and had to find one.

It is impossible for the Christian community to become politically viable on its own strength. But many in the community have come to realize that they can be a force-multiplier if they act in concert, and perhaps in alliance, with other like-minded groups.

The cementing factor is the common concern against the rise in religious fundamentalism triggered by the right wing Hindu nationalist Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh and its political wing, the Bharatiya Janata Party. It rules in Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh and Punjab [in a coalition with the Akali Dal of the Sikhs].

The recent emergence of Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, widely presumed to have encouraged a veritable genocide of Muslims in 2002 in his state, as a prime ministerial candidate in 2014 has brought a rare sense of urgency.

Christian leaders realize that with Muslims and other “secular” entities, they can make a difference in perhaps as many as 140 parliament constituencies, which could be decisive when it comes to the formation of a future coalition government.

The Muslim community is known for its “strategic voting” which maximizes its presence by giving a winning edge to select candidates who have the best chance of defeating anyone seen as being communal or sectarian.

The call now is for the Christian community to adopt and join this concept of strategic voting, and help the electoral prospects of candidates – and they can be of any of the political parties – who have the best potential of defeating candidates with a known communal bias or track record of hostility towards religious minorities. It is not an easy task to educate a Christian community scattered widely across the country, split into denominations, cultural rites and scores of language and cultural groups.

The time is short, the resources very limited, and the experience extremely little for extensive political mobilization at the grassroots. But the collective adrenalin is pumping high, as early reports come in of a swing of the young and the middle class towards Narendra Modi, with his known animosity towards religious minorities.

Perhaps nothing may come out of this exercise in a worse case scenario. But the newly acquired political awareness will be useful in the future building of a community that is aware and proud of its identity and knows how to assert its rights for development and security equity under the constitution.

John Dayal is the general secretary of the All India Christian Council and a member of the Indian government’s National Integration Council

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[SaiK]

if some one needs crash course to vote, then they have been soooo b@$stardized by institutional setup they are in. sorry for using apolitically incorrect words.

[ramana]

SaiK Your posts are beginning to make sense nowadays!

[kmkraoind]

Story of Ramayana teaches "Pran jaye par vachan no Jaye" i.e. "You should not break promises". Who has broken the promises of their manifestos? The Congress Politicians.

Story of the Mahabharata teaches "Fight your enemies even if they are your brothers for the sake of Dharma". Meanwhile Congress government is not doing its Dharma when its enemies (nPakis and Chinis) occupy the home of people of India, kill its people and hurt them in any way.

In order to stop Adharama you should not commit more Adharam.

When you are facing with formidable Super negative forces, deviating Satya to preserve Dharma is acceptable.
In Ramayana:
1. Lord Ram killing Vali hiding behind a tree.
2. Lord Hanuman asking help of Lord Vayu to deviate Lord Ram's arrow towards Nabhi, which stores Ravana's Amruth. It against rules to shoot arrow below Nabhi.

In Mahabharatha:
1. Use of Shikandi by Arjuna to put down Bhisma Pitamaha.
2. Aswathama Hatha Kunjaraha episode of Lord Krishna and Dharmaraju.
3. Killing of Karna when he is disarmed.
4. Lord Krishna's Suryasthma game so that Jayadratha/Saindhava get killed.

Sonia and its Cong cabal is no less super negative force than above. In all above instances, Lord Sri Hari himself has deviated means to achieve end, so if we immortals do some in this Kaliyuga it will be perfectly acceptable.

[R_Kumar]

Media is so dishonest that they are not talking about naked dance of corruption in the Bihar government.
I am getting report from ground zero that corruption has broken all previous records including Laloo raj.

Can you believe that you need to bribe to pay property tax for farm land. When I heard this I couldn't believe it.
I guess this is what secular development model means.

[niran]

When you are facing with formidable Super negative forces, deviating Satya to preserve Dharma is acceptable.
In Ramayana:
1. Lord Ram killing Vali hiding behind a tree.
2. Lord Hanuman asking help of Lord Vayu to deviate Lord Ram's arrow towards Nabhi, which stores Ravana's Amruth. It against rules to shoot arrow below Nabhi.

In Mahabharatha:
1. Use of Shikandi by Arjuna to put down Bhisma Pitamaha.
2. Aswathama Hatha Kunjaraha episode of Lord Krishna and Dharmaraju.
3. Killing of Karna when he is disarmed.
4. Lord Krishna's Suryasthma game so that Jayadratha/Saindhava get killed.

Sonia and its Cong cabal is no less super negative force than above. In all above instances, Lord Sri Hari himself has deviated means to achieve end, so if we immortals do some in this Kaliyuga it will be perfectly acceptable.

OT Alert
2. you cannot strike your foe below waist onree in hand to hand fight such as malyudha(wrestling) GaddaYudha(mace fighting)
Archery is like firing your gun and you aim at the point perceived to buy most purchase.
3. Karna was not disarmed, his arms kavach and arrows were present, the job of a yodha is to fight and arrange for proper logistics
to perform that fight, so whose fault is that a COAS of the army does not get a proper ride? and is beheaded repairing the ride? hainji.
4. it was not a game, a full Solar eclipse took place same as the one which took place a decade and a half ago where even the birds
thought it was evening and flocked back to their nests even though it was 10 in the morning, so Jaya and his cabal did not study astronomy whose fault is it?

[kmkraoind]

4. it was not a game, a full Solar eclipse took place same as the one which took place a decade and a half ago where even the birds
thought it was evening and flocked back to their nests even though it was 10 in the morning, so Jaya and his cabal did not study astronomy whose fault is it?

For me its Krishna Chakra that blocked sun for a while. Even assuming, its an eclipse Lord Krishna knows it, but he tells Arjuna that it has sunset and Arjuna had failed to kill Jayadradha, he has to self-sacrifice by entering pyre. When Jayadradha got curious to see Arjuna entering pyre, suddenly according to you eclipse goes, then Lord Krishna ponders Arjuna to kill Jayadradha. Do not you think Lord Krishna enacted Arjuna entering pyre is a game.

2. you cannot strike your foe below waist onree in hand to hand fight such as malyudha(wrestling) GaddaYudha(mace fighting)

Even Lord Krishna prodded Bhima to strike Duroyadhan's thighs when it was against rules. When referee Balarama questions this unholy behavior, Lord Krishna tells him Bhima is just fulfilling his previous owe, but actual suggestion to strike vulnerable thighs came from Lord Krishna. The story of sending Duroyadhan in a semi-naked state to Gandhari (before a boon) is also part of game enacted by Sri Hari himself.

[Sushupti]

Modi’s quotatation from Mawlana Hali
BY SARVESH K TIWARI

Hearing the speech that lAT naresha delivered from pATaliputra in the campaign to snatch the rAjadaNDa of bhAratavarSha from the dasyus of chAchA’s party, we were struck by his usage of a farsi-laden urdu couplet which he had meant to apply in praise of how India and in particular the plains of Ganga had bravely halted the victory march of the invaders.

Hardly anybody has understood the couplet if we are to go by the commentaries that have been produced for or against the sense of history demonstrated by NaMo; most have ignorantly taken the couplet to be pointing towards the campaign of the Alexander the Great, not realizing the true context of the lines.

Therefore this short note on this once well-known couplet from an urdu tome written in 1879 by a comrade of Sir Sayyid Ahmed Khan by latter’s inspiration.

vo dIn-e hijAzI kA be-bAk beDA
nishAn jis kA aqsA-e Alam me pahunchA
mazAhim hu-A ko-I khatrA na jis kA
nA ummAn me ThiThakA na qulzum me jhijhka
ki-e pai sipar jisne sAton samandar
vo DUbA dahAne me Ganga ke A kar

Above lines make for the 113th musaddas in the diwan written by Mawlana Khwaja Altaf Husain ‘Hali’, entitled Madd-o-Jazr-i-Islam (“The Flow and Ebb of Islam”), more commonly known as Musaddas-i-Hali. A musaddas is a monorhymed 6-legged persian meter often employed for reading mersiya, the verses of ritualistic lamentation of the Shi’a-s on Muharram.

The above quoted lines represent a lamentation of the poet over what became of that victorious march of Islam against which no obstacle could withstand anywhere in the world but which simply fizzled out as it reached the shores of India:

That audacious armada of the religion of Hijaz -
Whose insignia reached every corner of the world
Which learnt no obstruction from any fear
Which felt no hesitation in Persian Gulf or faltered in the Red Sea
Which valiantly crossed all the seven oceans
Oh, drwoned was that armada (of Islam), when it reached the mouth of Ganga!

This is the context and literal translation of the lines quoted by the lAT naresha.

http://bharatendu.com/2013/10/30/modis- ... lana-hali/

I was expecting brouhaha from seculars on this but i think they intentionally ignored it.

[SaiK]

In order to stop Adharama you should not commit more Adharam.

but adharma does not stop unless you do more dharma. meaning, unless you do positive actions, you can't get out of below zero value proposition.

[Prem]

And we need to keep on repeating this title ad infinitum and ad nauseum, especially when talking with any American! Obama or any other European leader should be considered Narendra Modi's junior, and should be vocally be taunted as Narendra Modi's junior!
This needs to be done to take away all moral authority from the American President as compared to Narendra Modi!

Let this Mauka not escape and weapon not used.

[Sanku]

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Personal Experience of Interaction with Modi
Author(s) : Dr Vathsala Mani

I’m a 72 year old South Indian Brahmin lady – not belonging to Narendra Modi’s caste, I must mention in these days of caste-ridden mindsets – just survived the attack of the Emperor of Maladies, cancer that I have been suffering from for the past two years. I have no expectation from life for myself, even if Modi were to become the Prime Minister of the country. But I want the teeming millions of my compatriots, especially the younger generation, to learn that there is another side of the Modi story than the one they get bombarded with from anti-Modi industry.

The announcement of Mr. Narendrabhai Modi as BJP’s Prime Ministerial candidate for the 2014 elections in fact took me back to my Gujarat days 2004-2007. To begin with, I recall a conversation I had with the late Kiritbhai Rawal, the then Solicitor-General of India, whom I met in the company of my husband early in January 2004. Kiritbhai was instrumental in getting my husband to Gandhinagar, Gujarat, to set up GNLU. I asked him why Modi was not replying to the many public criticisms, Kiritbhai replied: Modi would not waste his time replying them, as they would continue to crop up ad infinitum. But he would rather focus his attention and energy in developing Gujarat as no other state would, and that would be his way of answering the critics. It’s a pity that Kiritbhai is not alive today to watch the way Gujarat has developed today.

Before my husband’s formal appointment to GNLU, he told me that he would decide on the offer only after meeting Modi (as he then had an opportunity to go abroad). Kiritbhai had said, the appointment would be formalized only after a meeting with Chief Minister Modi. He soon arranged a meeting between my husband and Modi at Ahmedabad. Besides, Kiritbhai, Modi was accompanied by two of his ministers. Towards the end of the meeting, my husband brought to the attention of Modi of his JNU background, and the fact that he had published a newspaper article on Gujarat (on the need for a law on genocide in India, published in The Hindu). Modi’s reply was that my husband could hold any opinion he wanted, but Modi would like him to build the best law University for Gujarat. He wanted a professional. My husband said, if he faced any problems on job, he would contact Modi’s office. Modi replied: “Not my office, but me directly.” So much for the so-called intolerance of Modi towards people who held views not agreeable to his.

My husband was impressed by the way he was treated and accepted the GNLU offer immediately. I was happy he did so, for this brought me closer to Gujarat. I really wanted to find out on the ground about the events leading to the 2002 riots, over which the media and political parties were going overboard. Also, I was earlier been snubbed badly by a senior teacher from Sambalpur, Odisha when I expressed my sincere condolences to him over the gruesome killings of Graham Steine and his children over religious intolerance. He shouted at me: Madam, you sit in an ivory tower in Delhi and pass judgments without knowing the ground realities. He said he felt sad human life was lost. But what about joint families being broken up by misguided conversions? His own family was one such victim eventually leading to coercive partition of family property for which he held the likes of Graham Steine responsible. How come, no media reported this side of the story?

In the initial years Gujaratis working in our Government-allotted house and also at GNLU were reluctant to open up. Later on as mutual confidence grew, they found me friendly and helpful, and then they began to be more informal. What they narrated to me showed that the media, particularly, English language media were lapping up one-sided news portraying Modi as the Demon and all his opponents angels. They told us about the earlier riots in which the Hindus were mostly at the receiving end. There were several instances of stone-throwing on Hindus passing through Muslim dominated areas of Ahmedabad. The governments of the day kept a blind eye to all this. All the suppressed passions broke loose at the Godhra carnage, and no government, Modi or no Modi, could have stopped what followed – despicable and condemnable as both the Godhra and post-Godhra killings were.

The Teen Darwaza area is always abuzz with people jostling with one another, with mostly Hindus customers of all classes visiting shops offering all kinds of wares, mostly owned by Gujarati Muslims. I was a regular visitor and took my friends and relatives for shopping for saris and gorgeous children’s dresses. A Muslim shop keeper told me once that Gujarati Muslims were all peace-loving, but the Muslim immigrants from other parts of the country often created trouble here. This was also confirmed to my husband by a sociology professor of JNU origin, from Gujarat University.
Since 2002, there has been peace and progress in the State. This is probably due to Modi’s policy of “justice for all and appeasement of none.” Pampering one community at the cost of another only leads to public resentment, perpetuation of communal divide. On the ground, practices of religions are not mutually exclusive. I was pleasantly surprised an array of Muslim traders and hawkers selling flowers and other puja samagris near Hindu temples in Ahmedabad – again the Bhadrakali temple near Teen Darwaza stood out. The hundreds of boatmen ferrying Hindu pligrims from Dwarka to Bed Dwarka and back are Muslims who earn their living by facilitating Hindu pilgrimage.

The common people were happy with Modi as he was accessible to them for a hearing. Modern technology made it possible for Modi to personally reach out distant villages – he even spoke to them, identified them by video-conferencing on a regular basis. People could attend government functions without any security hassles. My housemaid told me that in not so distant past, womenfolk had to walk long distances to fetch water and return the same distances with pitchers on the head one over the other, but after Modi came the Narmada water reached their villages to their doorstep. In terms of the luxury of getting uninterrupted electricity (I have a house in Gurgaon), Gujarat was unrivalled.

After we arrived in Gandhinagar, we were allotted a government house in Sector 22, Gandhinagar. Being an old construction, it needed some repairs and electrical rewiring. The local works department office sent some electricians for the job. When they finished the work fast and to my satisfaction, I was pleased and gave them some money by way of tips. They were most unwilling to accept it, yet I persuaded them. It was just a token of my appreciation of their hard work. Finally they accepted it reluctantly. In the afternoon, to my utter surprise, two senior officers visited my house and asked me whether I paid any money to the workers and why. I said, yes, as I was pleased with their work. It was not a bribe and I really wanted to show my appreciation. The officers said, Madam, you are getting us into trouble: “if Modi Saab came to know of this, we would be taken to task.” They wanted to return the money, but I refused to take back the money. They said, don’t do this again and put them into trouble. This was clean, bribery-free administration for a housewife to experience.

As for the much criticised “Hindutwa” of Modi, here is food for thought. After the Bhoomipoojan of the GNLU campus in mid-2005 and installation of an Ashok Pillar at the entrance of the future campus, my husband happened to be a party to a discussion at the CM’s Chambers, Gandhinagar Secretariat. The then Law Minister suggested that in the future GNLU campus there should be a Saraswati temple, just across the Ashok Pillar. Modi killed the proposal in the bud by instantly asserting that the university was a public body to be constructed on government money. You can’t have a temple there, as the State must be non-religious.

Further, if Modi were a ‘kattar Hindu vadi,” why did he allow demolition of many Hindu temples that stood in the way of expansion and modernization of roads by the Gujarat Roads and Buildings Department? Some of these temples stood in the middle of some main roads in Ahmedabad. I particularly remember a very popular Shani Dev Mandir standing in the middle of a main road, and this had to be removed.

It was my feeling that L.K.Advani was not exactly popular in his constituency in Gandhinagar. My husband narrated to me a conversation that took place in a barber shop at the Sector 19 market on one fine morning. The shopkeeper was sharing with someone his disenchantment with Advani. He recalled his enthusiasm to lend support for an Advani election meeting in the small open space in front of his shop. Advani promised the audience to return to the constituency after elections and inquire about their welfare. This never happened until the next election. Two elections on, the people in the constituency had no glimpse of Advani. Someone asked the shopkeeper, why then did he continue to vote for Advani? The answer was “I was supporting Modi.” So, I don’t know who should be grateful to whom – Modi to Advani, or Advani to Modi.

Once we were returning from Junagarh after attending a function in a school. It was around midnight by the time we reached Gandhinagar. To my utter disbelief (I was so used to Delhi), I saw girls/women walking along the road in singles or in groups, perhaps after a mid-night shift in the nearby factories. I asked our driver about safety of girls and women in Gujarat. The driver announced proudly that they were safe and that they could move about in the night in any part of Gujarat.

Modi also ensured poor people’s access to justice, by streamlining the administration in the Secretariat. I was told, during Keshubhai’s time and before, the officers were not found on their seats even by 11 am, and they would nowhere be found in Gandhinagar by 3 pm. After Modi took over, the same officers were suddenly found on their seats 9 am to 5 pm, for fear of being reported to Modi, by the people with grievances to resolve.

Access to Modi was facile to common people. A student of GNLU told me once that she wanted to complain against a Minister and she could walk straight into Modi’s office and submit a petition. No wonder, an employee of GNLU – a staunch Congress supporter – said without hesitation, he would vote for Modi, if Modi were to contest from his constituency!

I have heard instances of Modi putting down some of his relatives who tried to exploit their relationship with Modi. Till this day, no allegation of corruption sticks on him.

The above reminiscences bring out the multifaceted personality of Modi. He was known to be blunt and straight mincing no words – quite ‘unIndian,’ would you say? While he gave patient hearing to the needy, he had no time for sychophants, or for frivolous talk.

The purpose of this write up, however, is to warn the younger generation against being swayed by the biased and motivated anti-Modi reports. To a non-partisan like me, Modi has all the qualities to make him the Prime Minister of India.

LET'S VOTE FOR MODI…..HE IS THE GAME CHANGER ….I THINK HE IS THE RIGHT MAN TO SAVE INDIA AND TO TAKE IT FORWARD…..INDIA NEEDS A TOUGH GUY….MODI IS THE ONE…...

[Sushupti]

New revelations about Amit Jogi could spell embarrassment for Rahul

New material on Amit Jogi, son of former Chhattisgarh Chief Minister Ajit Jogi, suggests that his nomination by the Congress party to contest Assembly elections from the Marwahi constituency could spin into a potential embarrassment for Congress vice-president Rahul Gandhi who recently took the moral high ground against criminalisation of politics.

In late September, Mr. Gandhi publicly denounced the UPA’s pushing of the controversial ordinance to negate the Supreme Court verdict on convicted lawmakers as “complete nonsense.” He had said the ordinance should be “torn up and thrown away” while admitting that what “our government has done is wrong.”

Apart from several pending criminal charges, copies of two declarations filed by Amit Jogi along with the certified copy issued by Collector, Raipur, which are available with The Hindu, reveal that he has additionally accomplished the extraordinary feat of being born in three different places and on different dates.

Amit Jogi is presently out on bail in the Ram Avtar Jaggi case in which he was accused of having entered — along with a few other persons — into a conspiracy to murder the NCP leader.

After his earlier acquittal by the trial court, the High Court admitted a revision petition filed by Satish Jaggi on grounds that “learned Special Judge (of the trial court) has travelled beyond the jurisdiction vested on it and thereby committed illegality” while issuing a bailable warrant of Rs. 5,000 against Amit Jogi. The case is pending in the High Court.

Further, Amit Jogi was a co-accused in the MLA bribery case just after the 2003 Chhattisgarh Assembly polls when the Congress lost the election and tried to break up the BJP. A CBI inquiry was ordered, which culminated in the filing of a closure report by the agency on the advice of the Law Ministry, which said an “acting Chief Minister” can’t be treated as a “public servant” under the definition provided in the Prevention of Corruption Act.

To add to Amit Jogi’s woes, the former State Finance Commission Chairman, Virendra Pandey, the whistleblower in the MLA bribery case, has challenged the CBI closure report in the CBI court, Raipur, on which the final order is still awaited.

Amit Jogi was also an accused in the sting operation case in which the then BJP Minister, the late Dileep Singh Judeo, was caught on camera taking money.

Neither Mr. Gandhi’s office nor Mr. Jogi responded to calls, SMSs or emails from The Hindu.

Many births, birthplaces

Mr. Jogi submitting multiple dates and birthplaces in different forms and affidavits is also curious. In his application dated December 15, 2001 for registration as an Indian citizen under Section 5(1)(A) of the Citizenship Act, 1955, Amit Jogi stated that he was born on August 7, 1977 in Dallas, Texas, U.S.A.

On August 26, 2002, during his father’s tenure as Chief Minister, Amit Jogi applied for a State of Chhattisgarh Domicile Certificate in which he claimed he was born in Bilaspur on August 7, 1978, a full year after the date mentioned in his application form for Indian citizenship.

Even in this application, Amit Jogi added another variation in his supporting affidavit, claiming his birthplace was Village Pendra, Bilaspur District.

However, Amit Jogi was issued a Domicile Certificate on the basis of his application by the Collector, Raipur, affirming Chhattisgarh as his birthplace.

On August 27, 2004 (during the BJP government’s rule in Chhattisgarh) Amit Jogi went on to apply for a Scheduled Tribe (ST) Certificate. In his application and sworn affidavit, Amit Jogi claimed that he was born on August 7, 1977 — not in Dallas, but in Gaurela, Pendra Road.

However, the Patwari’s certificate submitted by Amit Jogi along with his application states that he was born in Saarbahara Village Tehsil Pendra Road, District Bilaspur.

Apart from these glaring discrepancies within the same application, the validity of his claim for ST status has been hugely debated after the National Commission for Scheduled Tribes held that Ajit Jogi is not a tribal. This was challenged by Ajit Jogi on the ground that the Commission has no power to probe an individual’s caste status.

After a prolonged legal battle, the Supreme Court ordered a fresh enquiry into his caste status on October 13, 2011. Its report is still pending.

http://m.thehindu.com/news/national/new ... 2FQw0uXHX8

[Sushupti]

[rajithn]

All atmospherics with their own agendas!

As MuraliRavi said in and earlier post, NaMo should not get distracted and focus on the core 'justice for all, appeasement of none". The focus should be the "ALL". Perhaps that would mean staying away from some statements like the one in Patna.

I do believe that as we get closer to election date, the groupism would get more pronounced..we already see it in the form of some 'secular' organisations banding together under one umbrella and meeting the queen bee!!

[Sushupti]

http://www.youtube.com/embed/iJ-QEs-MMl ... r_embedded

[Karan M]

I was expecting brouhaha from seculars on this but i think they intentionally ignored it.

Was this from M himself or his speech writer? If former, how well read he is continues to surprise me.. and also adds to a more well rounded personality, as versus all the reports of how he is only development oriented and nothing else matters to him.

[Sanku]

Statue of Unity foundation: Advani is surprise guest invitee to Modi event


Live: Advani praises Modi for Patel statue, says he is a good PM nominee

Bharuch: 11:46 am: Narendra Modi assured the protesting tribals that Narmada water will reach them. "My tribal brothers have a right over Naramada water. I promise them they will get the water. We will complete the irrigation work in this area very soon," Modi said. 11:36 am: LK Advani congratulated Narendra Modi for the Sardar Patel statue and for his PM candidature. "People go to the US to see the Statue of Liberty, but if they get to know that Modi in Gujarat has constructed a 'Statue of Unity', how proud we will be to see such a tall structure of Patel. I congratulate Modi whom the BJP has declared as PM's nominee, I am very happy and I want to express it here," Advani said. 11:20 pm: Speaking about Sardar Patel, Advani said, "If Sardar Patel was not in the leadership of India during those days, India would have been divided into two parts but many parts."

11:17 am: Speaking at the event, LK Advani said, "The independence struggle was not just under Gandhiji, Sardar Patel and other Congress leaders but many other freedom fighters. Chandrashekhar and Bhagat Singh were also a part of the freedom struggle. Everyone was honest and devoted towards the freedom struggle, only their ways were different." 11:02 am: BJP Prime Ministerial candidate and party patriarch LK Advani have reached the venue of the foundation laying ceremony of the Sardar Vallabh Bhai Patel statue in Kevadia. Modi is set to lay the foundation stone of the statue at 12.49 pm.

[niran]

new buzz word courtesy NaMo

Sardar Patel brand Secularism

this ain't gona sit well with Ghandhi surname worshiper
NaMo said that at least due to Gujarat effect today GOI took out adverts in NEWS papers about Sarder Patel
and on Dec 15 there shall be a Unity race organized.

[Sushupti]

Modi aims at history and Gandhis with world's tallest statue


By Frank Jack Daniel and Sruthi Gottipati

NEW DELHI | Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:29pm IST

(Reuters) - Narendra Modi is building the world's tallest statue at a cost of almost $340 million in honour of one of the country's founding fathers, a project he is using to undermine his chief rivals, the Gandhi-Nehru political dynasty.

The statue of Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel, who was first Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru's deputy and his interior minister but often at odds with him, is to be built on a river island in Gujarat, the home state of both Patel and Modi.

Modi, who rules Gujarat as chief minister and is the leading opposition candidate for prime minister in general elections due next year, is to inaugurate the construction of the statue on Thursday, the 138th birth anniversary of Patel.

"Every Indian regrets Sardar Patel did not become the first prime minister. Had he been the first prime minister, the country's fate and face would have been completely different," Modi said on Tuesday at a public function.

The statue, twice the size of the Statue of Liberty, is seen as a not-so-subtle bid by Modi and his Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) to appropriate an independence-era hero associated with the ruling Congress party that has largely been run by the Nehru-Gandhi family.

Nehru, his daughter, Indira Gandhi, and grandson, Rajiv Gandhi, were prime ministers and the family has ruled for more than half of India's 66 years as an independent nation.

Rajiv's widow, Sonia Gandhi, is the current leader of the Congress and Rahul Gandhi, her son and Nehru's great-grandson, is leading the party's campaign to take on Modi at the general elections, due to be held before May.

Congress party Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, who was with Modi at the public function, said: "I am proud and happy that I belong to a political party to which Sardar Patel was attached. Sardar Patel was totally secular, and believed in the unity of India."

For a graphic on world's tallest statues click link.reuters.com/cep34v

The 20.63 billion rupee cost of the 182-metre iron and bronze statue has been widely criticised as being unnecessary in a nation where one-third of the 1.2 billion people live in poverty. It is to be financed by the Gujarat government and public donations.

"We're turning the whole of India into a necropolis," said Mohan Guruswamy of the Delhi-based think tank the Centre for Policy Alternatives.

A Gujarat government official involved in the project said it would be partially funded by small contributions with the Gujarat government making up the difference. He denied it was a waste of funds, calling it 'icon-based' development that would attract tourism.

WHOSE LEGACY?

The sub-text to the controversy is what legacy Patel left when he died in 1950, and which of India's two main parties can lay claim to it.

Some historians have suggested Patel was more pro-Hindu than Nehru, who was fiercely secular and opposed to the 1947 partition of British-ruled India into the independent nations of Hindu majority India and Muslim Pakistan. Patel is said to have taken a more pragmatic view and is known as the builder of modern India for cajoling and coercing the country's princely states into joining the new republic.

Despite differences with Nehru, the two worked as a team, historians have said. "Each knew the other's gifts, each took care not to trespass on the other person's turf," according to historian Ramachandra Guha. "That is how, together, they built India anew out of the ruins of partition."

But many people in Gujarat feel Patel's legacy has been neglected by the Congress party and Modi has been quick to use that to his advantage.

His slogan on television advertisements ahead of Patel's birth anniversary has been: "Sardar unified the country, and we will glorify it."

Modi's strong association with Hindu religious politics is seen as divisive by critics. Many of them hold him responsible for religious riots that killed at least 1,000 people, mainly Muslims, in Gujarat in 2002, although he has denied the charges.

A Supreme Court appointed panel did not find evidence of wrongdoing by Modi in the riots.

Opinion polls say Modi is more popular than Rahul Gandhi and he is favoured by India's business titans for his pro-investment policies and fast economic growth in his state.

Several commentators have commented on the irony of Modi supporting Patel, who as home minister in 1948 helped ban the RSS, a Hindu organisation that Modi has close ties to, after one of its former members assassinated independence hero Mahatma Gandhi.

"Patel repudiated the RSS. But it's equally true that Congress repudiated Sardar Patel," said Guruswamy of the Centre for Policy Alternatives.


http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/10/3 ... B120131030

[member_22539]

^Any idea how long this project will take to complete. It would be nice if Mr. Modi can inaugurate this while in power.

[Sushupti]

http://www.statueofunity.in/execution.html

Statue, Event Gallery/Exhibition Hall/Entry Hall/Vestibule LOA + 168 Weeks - See more at: http://www.statueofunity.in/execution.h ... mnSqU.dpuf

[Singha]

a sleepy beach village on karnataka coast named murudeshwara has become a tourist attraction due to the worlds biggest Shiva statue perched on a hill beside the sea. a local builder group has financed it all - statue, new temple, hotel, hospital, colleges.....these things have a good impact on the local economy. if we do a headcount, how many statues/roads/schemes/parks we have of the family name its a world record.

[Neela]

Modi aims at history and Gandhis with world's tallest statue


By Frank Jack Daniel and Sruthi Gottipati

NEW DELHI | Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:29pm IST

(Reuters) - Narendra Modi is building the world's tallest statue at a cost of almost $340 million in honour of one of the country's founding fathers, a project he is using to undermine his chief rivals, the Gandhi-Nehru political dynasty.

I am not doubting Modi's intentions here. He is implying that there are other people who have contributed immensely and they deserver recognition too and Patel , among them, deserves special attention. But Modi is looking for votes too. And this is squarely aimed at those middle aged and senior people who have voted for the hand ( that shafted them ) since time immemorial.

[Karan M]

a sleepy beach village on karnataka coast named murudeshwara has become a tourist attraction due to the worlds biggest Shiva statue perched on a hill beside the sea. a local builder group has financed it all - statue, new temple, hotel, hospital, colleges.....these things have a good impact on the local economy. if we do a headcount, how many statues/roads/schemes/parks we have of the family name its a world record.

I hope one day the G-family is designated to the dusty bins of history and all the stuff named after them is renamed after places/people of local or proper national significance.

[panduranghari]

a sleepy beach village on karnataka coast named murudeshwara has become a tourist attraction due to the worlds biggest Shiva statue perched on a hill beside the sea. a local builder group has financed it all - statue, new temple, hotel, hospital, colleges.....these things have a good impact on the local economy. if we do a headcount, how many statues/roads/schemes/parks we have of the family name its a world record.

I hope one day the G-family is designated to the dusty bins of history and all the stuff named after them is renamed after places/people of local or proper national significance.

Has anyone got a list of the government schemes run in the name of any gandhi?

[Neela]

I hope one day the G-family is designated to the dusty bins of history and all the stuff named after them is renamed after places/people of local or proper national significance.

I am guessing this is going to happen: Just before the elections, a scathing, stinging attack on SoniaGandhi will be made by Modi. And he will , in the same speech, remind everyone ( and the EC ) of the words 'Maut Ki Saudagar' that was used against him. Too bad for Sonia - just before the elections, she will be at her weakest and govt machinery will not be that pliable.

[kmkraoind]

Has anyone got a list of the government schemes run in the name of any gandhi?

Here is the Google Cache

[Pratyush]

2014 polls: Despite Modi, Cong will lose its Muslim vote

[Pratyush]

Desperate Nitish's secular bunkum and Hitler punch

[Pratyush]

Third front politics: this is not secularism but opportunism

Like they say virginity is not a virtue, it is just a lack of opportunity.

[rajithn]

a sleepy beach village on karnataka coast named murudeshwara has become a tourist attraction due to the worlds biggest Shiva statue perched on a hill beside the sea. a local builder group has financed it all - statue, new temple, hotel, hospital, colleges.....these things have a good impact on the local economy. if we do a headcount, how many statues/roads/schemes/parks we have of the family name its a world record.

This in one outstanding work. For those who havent seen this statue, I would surely recommend it.

[Pratyush]

Fighting styles of Rahul Gandhi

[member_25682]

All guru log, me a lurker on BR for few yrs now, here is my first.

Now BJP seems (perception based on the poles etc.) to be heading for 3-1 with APP eating into Delhi. Young Itvities find 'Mr. Aam Admi Topi Wala" as clean as "chamak gaye" - and hence prefer him. All talk of "all yadavs, and kumars started just like AAP" isn't
heading anywhere, and "Leftist messing up our heads and creating identity chaos in Des for last 70 yrs is why we are where we are" isn't helping either. AAP is here to stay at least until Delhi election is over, and more dangerous part is 'it' eating into LS urban votes and those are mostly fence inclining to Dharmi votes. It is formidable challenge, and can't be wished away like Sidhuji did in Delhi talk "Bhaise ke sath upar baitha kauva bhi chala jayega"

[harbans]

^ The AAP is the crowd that sees Corruption as root cause of miseries than an effect of bad policies. It's also the crowd that has little sensitivity or interest in Foreign policy. Kashmir etc. It's a crowd that has a political attention span just devoted to an after chat, or small talk during dinner or after lunch. Kejriwal et al are just milking these small minds for votes. BJP must educate, inform voters on FP and other issues also..get these people into SRCC kind of debates and thinking sessions. Rallies on one hand and SRCC kind informative sesssions on FP etc..engage, engage and engage more. Raise them for the chit chat levels of discourse.

[sum]

Why those who want Kejriwal for Delhi CM also want Modi for PM

Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) loyalists could damage the prospects of Congress not just in the national capital but also at the center. Arvind Kejriwal is the most preferred choice for Delhi’s chief minister, as per the findings of a Delhi- pre poll survey conducted by CSDS- CNN IBN. But fifty one per cent of those who want Arvind Kejriwal as the chief minister of Delhi want to see Narendra Modi as the country’s prime minister. Fourteen per cent of those who favoured Kejriwal as the chief minister also preferred him as the prime minister. Only seven per cent of them said that Congress vice president Rahul Gandhi should get the top job. The trend signifies that personalities will matter more than parties in the Delhi assembly poll and general election, said experts.

Interesting!

[Hari Seldon]

^51% of AAP voters want namo as PM... IOW, AAP is well and truly eating into BJP votes more than INC ones... worrisome, IMO...

Yes, if its only the chattering classes impressed with AAP, no problemo, getting these guys ot to vote on poll day - the all-important booth level GOTV program - for the AAP is still untested. SUre, EVM magic and all will compensate for that some bit but still, one has to wonder only...

[gakakkad]

^ The AAP is the crowd that sees Corruption as root cause of miseries than an effect of bad policies. It's also the crowd that has little sensitivity or interest in Foreign policy. Kashmir etc. It's a crowd that has a political attention span just devoted to an after chat, or small talk during dinner or after lunch. Kejriwal et al are just milking these small minds for votes. BJP must educate, inform voters on FP and other issues also..get these people into SRCC kind of debates and thinking sessions. Rallies on one hand and SRCC kind informative sesssions on FP etc..engage, engage and engage more. Raise them for the chit chat levels of discourse.

well that include most of the Yindian middle class population... potential khujliwal voters is the Yindian middle class - brfites/lurkers (and potential brfites/lurkers) ...that my friend is a problem...