Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 31 Oct 2013 23:18

It is not difficult to reduce paper wastage. Stamp can be made of different designs to show print of party-specific vote and put in voting box as usual. That way voter can see his vote getting counted. Paper trail will be same as current one in terms of paper use.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 31 Oct 2013 23:22

from that ibn live poll stats, NDA gained 8% where as BJP got 34%. Comes Modi, then that jumped by 12-13%.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 31 Oct 2013 23:33

Tagda Dose le liya Papoo ne

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 31 Oct 2013 23:34

Sushupti wrote:

Was this survey only in cities or includes rural areas also?

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 31 Oct 2013 23:39

Does BJP need such relics?

Modi should tone down his rhetoric against Pakistan, says Jawant Singh

http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/431622/mod ... ef_article

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 31 Oct 2013 23:40

muraliravi wrote:
Sushupti wrote:
Was this survey only in cities or includes rural areas also?

Sir Ji Both rural and urban.

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 31 Oct 2013 23:57

Surasena wrote:Crash course to show India's Christians how to vote
Will it have any impact on the 2014 election?

Thanks Surasena - good insight into the thinking in certain circles. Am going to tweet this

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 01 Nov 2013 00:01

muraliravi wrote:
matrimc wrote:There would be enough BJP supporters who would put up their own money (so one hopes). If not, then there is no chance BJP can win this election even if there is no EVM magic.
I mean in total it will cost them 9 crores to ensure a evm free election in delhi. I am quite sure they can cough that much if they are worried about evms.

Is there a way to make the Modi election campaign team aware of this? This seems very do'able, at least money-wise

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 01 Nov 2013 00:03

Sushupti wrote:Does BJP need such relics?

Modi should tone down his rhetoric against Pakistan, says Jawant Singh

http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/431622/mod ... ef_article

This guy is now a full blown WKK. Even his son and daughter in law keep visiting pak to do pappi jhappi.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 01 Nov 2013 00:05

These surveys are money earners. They release state by state one day at a time. In 4 months time they will say after !@#@!#@ event congress is improving and they will give different numbers. All these surveys are also part of campaign form congress.

negi · Post by **negi** » 01 Nov 2013 00:11

Jaawant Singh se theek se bola nahin jata sochega kya khak ?

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 01 Nov 2013 00:14

Sushupti wrote:Narendra Modi to visit Patna rally blasts victims

http://deshgujarat.com/2013/10/30/naren ... s-victims/

Did their CM visit them?

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 01 Nov 2013 00:18

RajeshA wrote: The way to rub Bhut Joloka in American backside is to call Narendra Modi as the "Leader of the Free World" or "Leader of the Democratic World" and to use this title constantly. In 2014 Narendra Modi would be getting more votes, even if indirectly, then all the leaders of democratic countries put together. Can all leaders in NATO put together claim 200 million votes? If not, Narendra Modi would have the right to call himself as the leader democratically elected by the biggest portion of mankind.

And we need to keep on repeating this title ad infinitum and ad nauseum, especially when talking with any American! Obama or any other European leader should be considered Narendra Modi's junior, and should be vocally be taunted as Narendra Modi's junior!

This needs to be done to take away all moral authority from the American President as compared to Narendra Modi!

Great point RajeshA!

And many Americans would play ball too. In my interactions with a few right wingers, their hatred for Obama is so high that they were grinning ear to ear when Putin smacked him down on Syria. There is a clear fault line there.

Modi of course, is streets ahead of Obama in performance & ability.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 01 Nov 2013 00:22

Jaawant Singh se theek se bola nahin jata sochega kya khak ?

Negi saab..these guys are living a complex. Bhoot chadda wa hai. Status ka, Oxfordian English ka, Accent Ka..they are always trying to impress, even while they are impressionated. 'My friend Strobe' JS has always had this chip..another guy like him is Karan Thapar..has spent many hours in front of the mirror trying to perfect the Queens english accent and the stiff upper lip. Not KTs stuck lower jaw and the way he tries to cringe his eyes desperately to get the correct stiff upper lip while trying to get the best possible delivery accent. His mind is focussed more there than the content..which is banal. These guys are completley and deeply enamoured of the Gora.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 01 Nov 2013 00:23

Btw, what is funny in CNN IBN number/methodology is (and that puts question mark on rest of their dog and pony show, if they can do such a mistake) this - it has been already pointed out by others, but want to point this one more time, and the dumbness of the whole approach!! - From there June numbers of Congress and BJP to October Numbers, BJP has picked 15 seats and Cong has lost 15. All these loses/gains come from the four states of CH, MP, RJ and Delhi (as they claim themselves). The turd front number does not change. Granted that CNN/IBN did survey in these 4 states and have number from these only, they should have stated that out of 72 seats from these states, BJP is up by 15 and Cong down by 15, but no they claim that it is India number and that, nothing has changed in any other states in these intervening months. and BJP is up by only 15 seats and Cong down by 15 seats!!
Now lets look at the claim in these 5 states. BJP will gain 15 seats just in Rajasthan!! It will then pick many in MP and Delhi and perhaps one in CH.
Bottom line, It is a lie, I was hoping myself to use these numbers and put my filters, but these numbers are garbage to begin with, what filters can one put? I don't know whose musharaff was use to pull these numbers - Rajdeep or Yogender, but either way it would have stunk this bad!!

negi · Post by **negi** » 01 Nov 2013 00:31

Jaswant Singh has had more than one stint at the center when he was external affairs minister what did he achieve ?
He could not even handle Kandhar. Modi has at least some tangible results to show as a CM of a state, he is being asked to tone down rhetoric on TSP because he makes rest of the jokers look like bloody fools.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 01 Nov 2013 00:41

Jaswant Singh is having his lower kj moment. He is chastisimg LKA and Modi.
IOW he is out of the system.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 01 Nov 2013 00:44

Patna blast witness "escapes" from custody. What a f*cking joke NIA is. They let this jihadi go.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 01 Nov 2013 00:59

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 01 Nov 2013 01:12

Fanne, i had a similar doubt. Didn't have much time today evening..yet same thing crossed my mind from what little i saw on TV. IIRC the 1st survey they put BJP at 136. The next at 156. And this one at 176. If it's on the basis on only the additions in 4 states and the rest locked..then i think BJP is romping home thunderously.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 01 Nov 2013 01:16

Ashok Sarraff wrote:The two sets of bars at the bottom show interesting trends: INC's seats are decreasing and BJP's seats are increasing with time. Unless things change drastically in favor of INC in the next few months, this trend will likely continue, giving a clear lead to BJP and decimate INC. IMO.

Not so soon Saar. That poll is a waste of time. It has been devised to bring the "secular" parties together. This is how I think the polls are used by MSM to further their agenda.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 01 Nov 2013 01:19

Muppalla wrote:These surveys are money earners. They release state by state one day at a time. In 4 months time they will say after !@#@!#@ event congress is improving and they will give different numbers. All these surveys are also part of campaign form congress.

+72

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 01 Nov 2013 01:26

Narendra Modi leads Rahul Gandhi in PM race in 4 poll-bound states

http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/431627/nar ... ef_article

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 01 Nov 2013 01:28

harbans wrote:Fanne, i had a similar doubt. Didn't have much time today evening..yet same thing crossed my mind from what little i saw on TV. IIRC the 1st survey they put BJP at 136. The next at 156. And this one at 176. If it's on the basis on only the additions in 4 states and the rest locked..then i think BJP is romping home thunderously.

Plus yogendra yadav and bhupendra chaubey agreed grudgingly that BJP has made deep inroads in UP this time and will see a big jump in seats.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 01 Nov 2013 01:54

15 IPS,Bomb Squad units,ATS team of Gujarat Police in Bihar ahead of Modi’s visit

http://deshgujarat.com/2013/10/31/15-ip ... dis-visit/

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 01 Nov 2013 02:01

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Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 01 Nov 2013 02:25

Sushupti wrote:

16% of first time voters are stupid enough to vote for this guy?

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 01 Nov 2013 03:05

i should appreciate the commies and others to have secured more than 35% poll projections.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 01 Nov 2013 03:05

Desh Gujarat report
http://deshgujarat.com/2013/10/30/techn ... e-details/

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 01 Nov 2013 03:16

Thanks Sushupti, one can see the 15 seat loss between July and October is in the 4 states only and not whole of India.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 01 Nov 2013 03:17

So these people are basically projecting a Third Front Govt. If theres a hidden motive here, its all about making them feel they can go it alone and not stick to BJP.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 01 Nov 2013 03:18

Sushupti wrote:

The scheming international backers of loony leftists and jokers like KThapar making faces on TV in Queen's English like a Brit

- will never like to admit that real democracies are far better for people and give solid foundations to nations. Con race don't seem to understand that non con race dynasty PMs have been much more successful, performing and secular than puppet dynasty. The world controlling dreams are merely playing into hands of schemers.

In post barbaric colonial times we don't need the schemers ruling us.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 01 Nov 2013 03:42

Sushupti wrote:15 IPS,Bomb Squad units,ATS team of Gujarat Police in Bihar ahead of Modi’s visit

http://deshgujarat.com/2013/10/31/15-ip ... dis-visit/

If Indians can get together and make waters of Narmada as strategic asset to make western borders wholly powerful and outward looking, then it can form a huge bulwark against invaders. We need to own our strategic asset completely and make the most of it quickly instead of little squabbles amongst each other that can go bad big way. The leadership at state levels need to digest this at base level. Plus we need very strong leadership all across western front who can make most of resources to build up capabilities across western borders as a continuous sadkarma, like Punjab state.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 01 Nov 2013 04:44

Modi faces terror threat but no change in campaign plans

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/-modi ... 131030.htm

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 01 Nov 2013 05:09

The wider RG opens his mouth, the more votes he loses!

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 01 Nov 2013 05:14

Karan M wrote:So these people are basically projecting a Third Front Govt. If theres a hidden motive here, its all about making them feel they can go it alone and not stick to BJP.

It is evident that parties smell blood in the air, and want to get as much flesh as possible. It is also a possibility that Congress is erecting the third front to split the votes. Congress is like the small British forces that conquered the subcontinent.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 01 Nov 2013 05:41

In the last few elections, as the media projected Congress to win, there were legitimate concerns in BRF that it could be used as a perfect setting to rig the elections and portray Congress really won. True to the polls Congress won.

This time the polls are projecting BJP getting more seats, and a loss of seats to INC/UPA. Barring a nasty trick or two, or some huge hole in BJP's defense, or Modi damaging himself; it is clear the trend will continue and we can expect good results - one which this dhaaga has been waiting for.

Can election rigging, voters suppression and other tricks still a possibility. A win is a win, how much ever it is dirty with a loss of face. And that is precisely what Congress wants. Even if media finds it incredulous to spin. Major anchors have already given up Hope and respect for RG. With each RG speech, it becomes less of a possibility to spin. This does not stop the media. Twitter, FB and blogs are playing more role than before.

Modi and BJP supporters have every right to be boyant, yet be cautious and wary of Congress trickery. It is a nice position to be in. This is a BJP's election to lose; and hope they do not mess it up this time like they did in 2009. 2004 loss can be attributed to being in the power for just one full term and not able to message their accomplishments and provide future vision. 2009 was a massive failure. They better not repeat it.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 01 Nov 2013 05:47

SwamyG wrote:
Karan M wrote:So these people are basically projecting a Third Front Govt. If theres a hidden motive here, its all about making them feel they can go it alone and not stick to BJP.
It is evident that parties smell blood in the air, and want to get as much flesh as possible. It is also a possibility that Congress is erecting the third front to split the votes. Congress is like the small British forces that conquered the subcontinent.

Absolutely. The Third Front is seeking to get its hands on power itself, whereas the INC will do anything to prevent Modi from coming to power it seems (perhaps going to the extent of supporting these Third Front types - only thing I hope will not work there is the arrogance the INC usually has, in terms of wanting everything for itself). INC is truly like you said though, can do anything to win, and with 60+ years of experience and accumulated money power behind them, are a tough nut to dislodge. So much rests now on the shoulders of Modi and co.