Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

[member_22872]

can we change 4 fathers by adding or subtracting a .5? if donors can be 3.5, why not their fathers?

[Dipanker]

^
forefathers -> four fathers ( == 4 fathers )

[member_22872]

Dipanker ji, I got that, what I meant was 3.5 fathers, with 3 fathers and one eunuch (.5 -> half a man), even though four fathers is more apt, just trying to bring the .5 part to add to their TFTA birth.

[Prem]

Dipanker ji, I got that, what I meant was 3.5 fathers, with 3 fathers and one eunuch (.5 -> half a man), even though four fathers is more apt, just trying to bring the .5 part to add to their TFTA birth.

Five fathers orr have 3.5 Whorefather.
3.5 have habit of asking Poaq now and then " Hu is the Daddy"!!!!

[Nandu]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24823846
Saudi nuclear weapons 'on order' from Pakistan

Saudi Arabia has invested in Pakistani nuclear weapons projects, and believes it could obtain atomic bombs at will, a variety of sources have told BBC Newsnight.

While the kingdom's quest has often been set in the context of countering Iran's atomic programme, it is now possible that the Saudis might be able to deploy such devices more quickly than the Islamic republic.

[Philip]

Igzackly! One has been saying this ever since BR was created,that the Pakis are building N-weapons for the Saudis for use on their "ding-dong" BMs acquired from China a couple of decades ago.This is a tri-partite arrangement,which I've termed in the past the "Axis-of-Evil".Saudi money has bankrolled Pak's nuclear establishment and weapons development programme.This why the relationship is so close,"joined to the hip".

I'm not sure whether members have realised what the Saudis have planned for the future.The ambitions to buy 24+ German U-boats is not just to beef up their naval strength in the Arabian Sea and IOR,but to acquire its third leg of the nuclear triad.It already has the means to deliver WMDs though its Chinese missiles and aircraft (Tornados and now Typhoons,apart from US aircraft),both of which can be located and idenntified,but is copying the Israeli example of putting nuclear tipped cruise missiles aboard its German built conventional subs (Dolphins),of which Israel will operate at least 6.The Saudi plan is such because operating nuclear powered subs is way beyond its capability,as well as that of Pak,even though Pak has considerable experience with Chinese help in N-tech.This is a very cost-effective manner in which to acquire the UW leg of the triad.Saudi German built AIP U-boats will then be available not only to the Saudis but also to the Pakis by default,who will be operating these subs as they operate Saudi military aircraft too.

India therefore has to face not only the Sino-Pak JV but the larger "axis-of-evil" which includes the Saudis and their twin-pronged strategy of supporting Wahabi Islam and its associated terrorism globally,including in India through the so-called IM,responsible for the recent failed assassination attempt on Mr.Modi at Patna.Our military planners should revise their grand strategy and take in the new threat emerging from the west.In combating this new threat,India's relations with Iran become absolutely vital.

The recent expose that O'Bomber secretly promised the Pakis to "nudge" India on J&K ,and that Pak would be its "long-term" strategic ally shows that the Yanquis ,whether white or black truly speak with a forked tongue.

http://newindianexpress.com/opinion/Pak ... 874216.ece

Pakistan's complicity in drone strikes

By Karamatullah K Ghori

Published: 06th November 2013 06:00 AM
It was Obama who punctured Nawaz Sharif’s balloon taking all the hot air out of it.

Obama had played host to the Pakistani PM in the White House on October 23. He said not a word about the deadly drones that have been wreaking havoc on Pakistan’s tribal belt along the Afghan border. However, Nawaz, taking advantage of his Oval Office audience, made a fervent plea to his host to halt these strikes. He did so because his government — like the one before it — is under enormous pressure from the people of Pakistan to seek an end to the nightmare of frequent drone visitations.

None of the public or private accounts of the Obama-Nawaz encounter claimed the former made any commitment — or gave indication of any kind — to the latter to even consider reducing the frequency of drone strikes against targets in Pakistan, much less halt them altogether.

However, Nawaz tried to put a spin of his own on the issue, with both he and his minions claiming to the media that vibes from Obama were good and encouraging and there was good reason to believe that drone strikes would be drastically reduced, soon, if not ended altogether.

Nawaz was obviously playing politics. He’d embarked on his Washington yatra assuring the people of Pakistan that he’d be pulling no punches to seek an end to the scourge of drones from his Washington host. His spin was understandable. It was typical of a leader given to giving airs to his stature. But the Pakistani people weren’t ready to buy his bombast. They’d heard such claims before, besides knowing so well their leaders’ craven pusillanimity when it comes to standing up to Washington.

They didn’t have to wait long for their leader’s bravado to unravel. The bluff was called when a drone struck Miranshah, the hub of the Pakistani Taliban in the notoriously wild and violent North Waziristan, on October 31 — merely eight days after Nawaz’ White House appearance. It killed at least three people: terrorists, according to Washington, innocent civilians, according to Pakistani sources.

A deadlier aftershock followed the next day, when a precision drone strike took out Hakimullah Mehsud, leader of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and four of his prime lieutenants, but also touching off another cyclic crisis of confidence between Islamabad and Washington.

The Government of Pakistan’s (GOP) reaction to Hakimullah’s death has been unusually sharp and combative, given that he was mortal enemy of the State of Pakistan, recognising neither its writ nor the sanctity of the law of the land. In a blunt and almost harsh media statement, interior minister Chaudhry Nisar, a crony of Nawaz, pointed the finger at Washington for sabotaging the peace process just hours before it was to be launched with TTP. Nisar threatened to review the spectrum of relations with Washington.

In another unusual move, the American ambassador was summoned to the foreign office and given a dressing-down for scuttling the peace process with the Taliban so close to a kick-off.

Why should GOP be so worked up and betray signs of paroxysm over the elimination of a deadly enemy who’d shown no mercy against the people of Pakistan — killed by the thousands in acts of TTP-spawned terrorism — is obviously a cause of concern to political pundits. What adds to their surprise is that Nawaz has been so very keen — almost desperate — since returning to power to seek the best of relations with Washington for his basket-case country. Why should his government wish to jeopardise all that just because a terrorist leader had been liquidated?

Or is it that GOP — in fact the whole ruling elite of Pakistan — wants to cover its own footprints on the landscape of the prickly drone attacks blamed for killing more innocent civilians than suspected or actual terrorists?

Complicity of the Pakistani establishment — both civilian and military — has been suspected and alleged for a long time in the context of drone attacks by the CIA and US military combine. WikiLeaks had stirred up a hornet’s nest on the issue when it revealed a duplicitous Pakistani leadership telling Washington to deploy drones with impunity against Pakistani targets and not be put off by the political leadership making theatrical noises only to assuage the people.

GOP’s complicity in what the international comity of jurists and human rights groups have routinely decried as violations of international law came to another boil on the heels of Nawaz’ Washington appearance, only to steal so much thunder from his claim of championing the cause of Pakistani victims of drones.

A vivid inkling of what would be real championing of civilian victims of drones, dismissed by the Washington elite as “collateral damage”, was provided by Democratic Congressman from Florida Alan Grayson, when he produced before the House Foreign Affairs Committee the surviving members of a 67-year-old grandmother killed in a drone attack last year in Waziristan. The appearance of Momina Bibi’s progeny touched many a sensitive nerve in US and Pakistan.

Grayson followed his cri de coeur with a blunt BBC interview on October 29 in which he claimed that GOP, especially its military part, “could control the situation and ease the lives of thousands of citizens” burdened by the drone attacks but only “if they wanted”. Grayson was unsparing of the Pakistani military for being pointedly complicit in what the people of Pakistan see as a crime against humanity. The Pakistani intelligentsia too has long been critical of the military establishment turning a blind eye to the American drone attacks, while playing possum for domestic consumption. Some of the military brass has publicly touted the surgical efficiency of the drones in combating murky terrorists.

Nisar has unleashed another controversy between the civilian and military components of GOP by unwittingly hawking the ridiculous figure of just 67 civilian deaths in drone attacks over the past four years, which flies in the face of the Foreign Office’s tally of at least 400 innocent victims. The FO had furnished this number to the UN Rapporteur, Ben Emmerson, earlier in March. Interestingly, Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch put the number of innocent Pakistani victims at over 900.

Nisar was obviously touting the figures fed by the military brass. However, his robust espousal of the devil’s advocate has not only invited an angry civilian backlash but further fuelled the debate that the military establishment has its own footprints aplenty over the killing fields spawned by the deadly drones. Truth may take long to sift from mounds of conflicting accounts. But whatever the outcome the agony of drones’ unsuspecting victims — and grieving survivors — is unlikely to end anytime soon.

Karamatullah K Ghori is a former Pakistani diplomat.

[Prem]

Don’t hate, appreciate
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... appreciate

We're a busy bunch, us Pakistanis. India’s mission to the planet Mars successfully blasted off on Tuesday, the same day Pakistan test-fired a short range missile Hatf IX (NASR). The coincidence may have added to the nervousness of the anxious scientists at the southern spaceport of Sriharikota, inciting fear that their 350-tonne space rocket to a different planet might be eclipsed by the majesty of the 60km-range Hatf IX. The objective of the $73 million Indian project is to land the unmanned probe on Mars sometime next year, and detect methane in the Martian atmosphere to deduce whether a life of any form exists on the planet.What a pointless exercise. So what if there is life on Mars? So what if there are aliens out there? Do we invite them back to Earth? No, thank you. We are already overpopulated. If anyone, India can appreciate that. Perhaps this facetiousness is the only way to placate ourselves in the face of obvious defeat in the field of space exploration by our traditional rivals.
Two nations gained independence in 1947. The rivalry began. Both wanted to be the “Asian tiger”, and achieve greatness. Wars were fought, and martyrs were born. But, it’s over. We are not in the race anymore. One of us has been to the moon, and now has their eyes set on Mars to become the first Asian country to reach the milestone. The world is in agreement that it is likely to emerge as major power in the years to come. Steady democracy, independent judiciary, growing economy and a clarity in the vision for the future. On the other side, a fragile system which claims to be democratic, fear of a contempt notice, deteriorating economy and a regressive mindset which threatens its very existence. The aim is not to ridicule or spread hopelessness, as everyone offering a reality check here is often accused of, but to rid ourselves of the illusion that we’re the best. We’re not. But, we can be. Rhetoric will have to give way to reason, arrogance to humility, personal gains to collective welfare, confusion to direction, and conspiracies to facts. Let us not become another tragic story of wasted potential. No one, but we ourselves, are standing in the way of achieving all that we are capable of. Focus on our own weaknesses and shortcomings for a change. And, accept them with openness, and then strive to rectify and learn and truly become the nation we envisage ourselves to be. That's the only way not to get left light years behind the rest of the world.

[sanjaykumar]

India’s mission to the planet Mars successfully blasted off on Tuesday, the same day Pakistan test-fired a short range missile Hatf IX (NASR). The coincidence may have added to the nervousness of the anxious scientists at the southern spaceport of Sriharikota, inciting fear that their 350-tonne space rocket to a different planet might be eclipsed by the majesty of the 60km-range Hatf IX

[Prem]

Hai Allah,Its FazLullha to Lord Over Poaq Mush

Pakistani Taliban elect Mullah Faz lullah as new chie]

MIRAMSHAH: The Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) have elected hardline Swat Taliban leader Mullah Fazlullah as their new chief, a week after former supremo Hakimullah Mehsud was killed in a US drone strike in North Waziristan.
“Fazlullah is the new TTP chief,” TTP caretaker leader Asmatullah Shaheen said at a press conference at an undisclosed location in northwest Pakistan. “The decision was taken at a shura (council) meeting today,” foreign news agency AFP quoted Shaheen as saying. “The supreme shura has also elected Sheikh Khalid Haqqani as the deputy chief of Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan.”TTP spokesman Shahidullah Shahid also confirmed the announcement. “Following proper consultations ... we chose our senior commander Mullah Fazlullah as our new ameer (leader),” he told news agency Reuters by telephone from an undisclosed location in neighbouring Afghanistan.The election of hardline commander Fazlullah further dampens expectations of any peace deal between the insurgents and the Pakistani government.“There will be no more talks as Mullah Fazlullah is already against negotiations with the Pakistan government,” said the spokesman, rejecting the idea of any further peace talks.Heavy gunfire was reported in celebration in Miramshah, the main town in North Waziristan tribal area, following the announcement of the new chief.Fazlullah, whose men shot teenage schoolgirl Malala Yousufzai last year, led the Pakistani Taliban’s brutal two-year rule in northwestern Swat valley in 2007-2009 before a military operation retook the area. He fled across the border to Afghanistan and is now believed to operate from Nuristan province.Nicknamed Mullah Radio for his fiery radio broadcasts in Swat valley, Fazlullah is considered hardline even within the Pakistani Taliban movement itself.The killing of former chief Hakimullah Mehsud on Friday came as the Pakistani government said representatives were prepared to meet the TTP with a view to opening peace talks.Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif was more measured, but said his government was committed to seeking peace through dialogue and stressing that an end to bloodshed could not be achieved “by unleashing senseless force”.The TTP, an umbrella organisation grouping numerous militant factions, has killed thousands of soldiers, police and civilians since 2007 in its campaign against the Pakistani state.

[KJo]

I love the names of our space vehicles. Chandrayaan, Mangalyaan... so awesomely Bharathiya!

[member_22872]

Why do they have to announce the name of a leader? grim reaper gets ready, it is as if they 'paint the target' and put him in the spot light ready for the drones. That too when they fear drones so much, why cannot they keep the identity of the leader a secret?

[Peregrine]

X-Posted on the Pakistani Economic Stress Watch Thread

Rapidly rising debt

Government debt reaching new heights is not a particularly unusual event, but the news on November 5 that the national debt had climbed by Rs1 trillion was alarming nonetheless. The amount itself, though terrifyingly high, was not the only cause of concern. What was troubling was the fact that this rise took an astonishingly short three months to occur. Even more worrying is the fact that the Rs15 trillion figure for government debt does not include the new debt taken on as part of the International Monetary Fund’s bailout package. The figures for Pakistan’s national debt have grown with such regularity that journalists have almost entirely given up trying to draw attention to them anymore. Even the State Bank of Pakistan has been provoked to start using unflattering epithets to describe the finance ministry’s behaviour.

So addicted is the government to borrowed money that it has virtually sucked the life out of the private sector’s ability to borrow. After the banks are done lending to the government, there is nothing left to lend out to businesses and entrepreneurs to invest, create jobs and lift people out of poverty. The vicious cycle of inflation[/url] driving more and more people into poverty continues. The only way out of this crisis is for the government to simultaneously reduce its expenses and raise tax revenues. But alas, the current administration appears to have taken action on neither front. It has been repeated ad nauseum, but it is worth saying again: the government of Pakistan has done a woefully inadequate job of trying to tax the country’s wealthy, a point that has been made bluntly and loudly by virtually every observer of the nation’s finances. The IMF recently took to calling upon the government to remove the privileges, both de jure and those that exist in practice, that benefit the wealthiest of our citizens. It really should not take a lender based in Washington for Islamabad to figure out that the rich in Pakistan are not pulling their weight when it comes to paying taxes.

Cheers

[Brad Goodman]

Girl, 14, pregnant after Pakistan forced marriage, judge says

A 14-year-old girl became pregnant after being taken to Pakistan by her father and forced to marry a man, a judge has said.

She was subjected to violence during which a gun was produced, according to Mr Justice Holman.

The girl returned to England where she gave birth.

Details emerged in a written ruling following a hearing in the Family Division of the High Court in Birmingham.

'Harrowing'

Two weeks after the ceremony, the marriage was consummated, the ruling said.

The judge said: "The girl has given an account of the circumstances surrounding that marriage which are, frankly, harrowing.

"On her account... this was a grave example of a marriage which was forced under considerable duress, involving at one stage the production of a gun and physical violence upon her.

"The marriage was consummated about two weeks later after further threats to her if she did not permit her husband, who was then aged about 24, to have sexual intercourse with her.

"As a result, while still aged 14, she became pregnant."

Local authority officials wanted the marriage nullified, but the judge said the girl would have to initiate proceedings herself for this to take place.

[sum]

X-post:

What was known all along ( and what GoI has supressed till now):

Exclusive! Who is ISI's Honey Bee in New Delhi?

Levy, in an exclusive interview to Rediff.com, said he tried hard to detect the identity of this Indian mole, but he is yet to succeed. The authors have dubbed the Indian ISI mole 'Honey Bee' in their book.

They claim that Major Iqbal of the ISI, who was David Coelman Headley's handler in Pakistan, organised a condensed version of the Pakistan army's two-year training course on surveillance and counter-intelligence.

The course was prepared on the basis of the Indian Army's training manual supplied by the Indian mole to the ISI.

Headley, the mastermind behind the Mumbai terror attacks, along with the Lashkar-e-Tayiba, successfully mounted the attack that killed 166 people and wounded hundreds more.

In a sensational claim, the authors write that 'Major Iqbal' had given Headley what is described as 'classic Indian files'. Iqbal boasted that he had obtained these files from the Indian police and army, which 'revealed their training and limitations.'

Levy believes that while the ISI's source in India is unlikely to be from the army, it could be someone from the Indian security establishment other than the army.

Iqbal boasted that they had 'a super agent' at work in New Delhi who was known as Honey Bee.

In addition to Honey Bee, Levy also claims there were people in Mumbai codenamed 'chuhas' (mice) who supplemented information and added to the details Headley provided to the Lashkar to plan the terror attacks in Mumbai.

"The LeT claims there were 10 collaborators working in Mumbai," says Levy.

The Ram Pradhan Commission of Inquiry, set up to probe the terror attacks, failed in its duty when it did not examine the 'local element,' Levy added. "The Pakistan side told me there exists Honey Bee and chuhas. The Indian side should have established their identity."

Before Headley started his journey to Mumbai to find a landing site for the terrorists, Levy claims that Major Iqbal gave him a bundle of counterfeit Indian rupees and revealed that Honey Bee, the ISI's Indian mole, had told him that Machchimar Nagar, a fishing colony in Cuffe Parade in south Mumbai, could be the landing site for their anti-India mission.

The spot was apparently suggested by the Indian mole as it does not have much of security, and Major Iqbal asked Headley to check it out.

[Anujan]

"Training manual" getting leaked and all that is just stupid sensationalism. There is nothing secret about police and security forces training, in fact many of them host officers from outside the country. Also, "chuhas" in Mumbai is also sensationalism. D-company and Dawood is valuable to Pakistanis precisely because of this. Dawood has contacts and people everywhere in Mumbai, including docks and among fishermen. The ease with which Dawood Gilani moved around among the glitterati in Mumbai raises the question as to who introduced him to them in the first place.

Anyone remember Sanjay Dutt being caught with AK 47 after the '93 mumbai bombings? People till believe in this "Chuhas" nonsense?

[Prem]

Baitullah targeted on Pakistan’s request: Husain Haqqani

Pawn

WASHINGTON: Although publicly Pakistan condemns drone strikes, privately it has often asked the United States to use the weapons to eliminate Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) leaders, says Islamabad’s former ambassador in the US capital, Husain Haqqani.Baitullah Mehsud, former TTP chief who was killed in a drone strike in 2009, was among those targeted following such requests, he says. In his latest book “Magnificent Delusions,” Mr Haqqani also claims that in 2009 US President Barack Obama secretly offered to nudge India towards negotiations on Kashmir if Pakistan stopped supporting Lashkar-i-Taiba and the Afghan Taliban.
While talking about America’s drone policy, Mr Haqqani recalls that in the summer of 2008, then chairman US Joint Chiefs, Admiral Michael Mullen, travelled to Pakistan to demand action against several specific groups, including the Haqqani network.In one of the meetings, “the Pakistan army put in its own request for US drones to target Baitullah Mehsud, whose Pakistan Taliban group threatened the Pakistani military directly.”Following the request, “US officials added Pakistani Taliban to their list of targets … and a hellfire missile fired from an American Predator subsequently killed Mehsud.

[Peregrine]

Missed target : IMF says $6.7b bailout ‘broadly on track’

ISLAMABAD : The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has said that Pakistan’s $6.7 billion loan programme is ‘broadly on track’ on Friday as the country missed its target for building foreign currency reserves.

Oooh – That Hurts.

Cheers

[partha]

Baitullah targeted on Pakistan’s request: Husain Haqqani

This Haqqani fellow promised to return to Pakistan in 4 days if needed and escaped after the memo scandal. Now he is revealing/confirming facts uncomfortable to Pakistan

[Agnimitra]

Paki Army Col. (retd.) Nazar Hussain is on Canadian Rawal TV (called Qadiani TV by its detractors). He says that the Afghan Taliban and TTP are working jointly to carve out an Afghan Emirate out of southern and eastern AFG, as well as Paki tribal belt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SEgI2ScKik

[Prem]

Fazllullah" promotion with blessing of Mullah Omar is gonna be the most terrible nightmare Paki will ever have /had on their short life.

[jamwal]

How ?

[Peregrine]

Deadly attacks on two Imam barghas in Gujranwala spark protest

GUJRANWALA : Protests broke out in Gujranwala after the death of three people in separate incidents of firing at Imam barghas in Gujranwala, Express News reported on Saturday.

In one of the incidents the Imam of the Imam bargha in Shahrukh Colony was killed.

Two worshippers were killed in a separate firing incident the same morning at an Imam bargha in the Mominpur area.

Cheers

[Brad Goodman]

Cutting Pakistan off

THE view is gaining currency here in Washington D.C. that Pakistan needs to be cut off from all sources of concessional multilateral and bilateral financing to be taught a lesson in reality.

The view is also held by many Americans, especially those with input in the government’s foreign policy. Particularly on Capitol Hill, it’s hard to find a member of Congress who takes a positive view of Pakistan, and believes that America should expect anything good from a continuing engagement with us.

All the ‘aid’ that America has poured into Pakistan over the years has built little other than a sense of entitlement amongst Pakistanis, argues Haqqani.

[Brad Goodman]

Army driver killed, colonel injured in Gujrat ambush

GUJRAT: A driver was killed and a colonel seriously injured when an army vehicle was ambushed near Kot Mojdeen in the Kunjah area on Wednesday.

The vehicle was going to a petrol pump when three assailants who were on a motorcycle opened fire on it, killing driver Mohammad Ramzan and injuring Col Mohammad Zahid Naseer.

The attack took place in an area considered to be sensitive because of a number of recent terrorist attacks. It is a few kilometres from Jassoki village where seven people of Shia community were killed about two months ago.

In July last year, seven security personnel were gunned down near a bridge on River Chenab in the area. Two months later, four policemen were killed in an attack on a checkpost near Kathala railway crossing. Law-enforcement agencies arrested some suspects in the attacks.

[SSridhar]

Overall, they were very dismissive of the quality of PAF trainees. Looks like the overall decline across Pak society has affected all their services (which anyways were more hype than substance).

At the height of the Baglihar issue, the Pakistani 'experts' were taken to Roorkee to explain the calculations behind the BHE Project. They openly admitted that it went above their heads.

[Agnimitra]

Secular Pakistanis are seeking to debuk the Ghazwa e Hind propagandu:

The Myth of Ghazwat-ul-Hind

[Anujan]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 30925.html

Tens of millions of Pakistani children will struggle to lay their hands on the book written by Malala Yousafzai after the organisation representing the country's private schools decided to ban it.

The All Pakistan Private Schools Federation, which says it represents more than 152,000 institutions across the country, has decided that allowing pupils to read the book, I am Malala, would have a "negative" effect on them. The federation also said it believed the book was not entirely respectful of Islam.

The book will not be included in the schools' curriculum, nor will it be stocked in school libraries. Pakistan's most elite schools belong to the federation. The government does not plan to teach it in state schools, though it is not banned.

"The federation thought we should review the book, and having reviewed it we came to the decision that the book was not suitable for our children, particularly not our students," said the federation's president, Mirza Kashif. "Pakistan is an ideological country. That ideology is based on Islam.... In this book are many comments that are contrary to our ideology."

[RCase]

Overall, they were very dismissive of the quality of PAF trainees. Looks like the overall decline across Pak society has affected all their services (which anyways were more hype than substance).

At the height of the Baglihar issue, the Pakistani 'experts' were taken to Roorkee to explain the calculations behind the BHE Project. They openly admitted that it went above their heads.

Sridharji, it is all the fault of the Indians. The dossiers did not explain the acronym BHE, which was mistaken to be Bakistan High Explosives experts. Blowing up things to go over the head is an easy job for these experts.

[anupmisra]

Tellibunnies accuse paki gober-ment of sorcery

The banned Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan has claimed that the government resorted to sorcery to cause headache and body pain to its slain chief, Hakeemullah Mehsud

Towards the last days of his life, Hakeemullah had received spiritual treatment, which improved his health and he had been able to step up militant activities

There you have it folks. I knew there was witchery involved in hakeemji's health.

[anupmisra]

The global paki. Paki polio strain threatens Europe

The Pakistani polio virus strain, which has already affected five countries in the past 22 months, has now become a threat to European countries as well

The United Nations Children’s Fund (Unicef) had confirmed the presence of polio virus among children in northeast Syria. However, the Syrian government alleged that the virus had arrived from the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (Fata) as Pakistanis from this part of the country were fighting along with the Syrian rebels

It is pertinent to mention that in January 2012, as many as 21 children were affected because of the virus in a Chinese province and it was confirmed that the virus came from Pakistan

In December 2012, the virus was detected in the Al-Azhar University, Egypt and it was again the Pakistani one traveled from Sukkur (Sindh).

In March 2013, the same virus was also traced in Palestine and just after three months it was detected in Israel.

government of Pakistan knew that it was a very sensitive issue and Pakis could face traveling ban in Europe.

AoA.

[sanjaykumar]

India needs to seal the borders immediately. Only Pakistanis with documented immunisation in foreign countries should be permitted into India. That includes gorment personnel.


Although India recently completed a massive and heroic immunisation campaign, it was, not inappropriately, aimed at a young cohort. Older people can contract polio. Most of these in India have not been immunised. I am not sure what vaccines were used by India but if it were live attenuated vaccines, there would be significant herd immunity.

But Pakistan should not be given the benefit of the doubt.

[SSridhar]

Peace has little chance with new TTP leader - Meena Menon, The Hindu

The cries of outrage over the drone strike killing Tehreek e Taliban Pakistan (TTP) chief Hakimullah Mehsud on November 1 have been replaced with horror over the choice of Maulana Fazlullah, the new leader for the banned terror outfit who has reportedly ruled out any chance of peace talks with the government.

Last week, after Mehsud’s death Pakistan Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan accused the U.S. of foiling the peace process and called for a review of all aspects of the country’s ties with the U.S. However, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has no intention of doing this and official sources said the matter was not discussed at all. The rhetoric of one minister cannot become a policy statement, the sources said adding it would be business as usual with the U.S.

By making an international issue of drone strikes — supported by parties like Imran Khan’s Pakistan Tehreek e Insaf (PTI) — the government has taken away the real issue of terrorism from the public eye. Yet, terrorism has claimed over 40,000 lives already and the government says that Pakistan is its worst victim. When the first ever democratic transition took place, the new government under Mr. Sharif vowed to end terrorism and to this end called an All Parties Conference in September for a consensus on fighting terror. The army chief of staff too was on the same page as the government and keen on a dialogue to end terrorism. Six days after the conference, two senior army officers were killed in Upper Dir, a deed attributed to the Taliban. This was followed by five blasts in Peshawar, three of them in a week, starting with the suicide bombing at All Saints Church which caused a setback to the peace talks. Later, the Law Minister of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa was killed, making him the third member of the provincial assembly to be fatally targeted.

While the Interior Minister says the government worked behind the scenes for seven weeks to reach a stage when Mehsud was going to be handed a formal letter of invitation for talks, politicians and the media are raising questions on whether the government had a plan. For instance Sheikh Rasheed Ahmad of the Awami Muslim League has told the National Assembly that he had spoken to all the interlocutors named by the government and none of them had been engaged in talks with the Taliban.

[Sushupti]

[Brad Goodman]

Policeman among 11 killed in Karachi violence

At least 11 persons, including a policeman, were killed in different incidents of violence in Karachi during the past 24 hours, DawnNews reported.

One person was shot dead in Chakiwara area of Karachi's Lyari town.

Bodies of four kidnapped persons were discovered in Lyari's Adam Khan road and Bahar colony areas.

A police officer was killed in Orangi town area of Karachi. The Sub-Inspector was targeted by motorcycle-riding assailants who opened fire at a road-side soup stall in Faqeer colony area of Orangi.

Similarly a shopkeeper was gunned down in MPR colony area of Karachi's Orangi town.

Bodies of two persons, bearing marks of torture, were recovered in Manghopir and Surjani town area of the city.

In another incident, two suspected dacoits were killed in an encounter with policemen near Korangi Creek in the city's Korangi Industrial area.

Accomplices of the suspects killed managed to escape during the exchange of gunfire.

[Anindya]

Nawaz Sharif's adviser Sartaj Aziz to meet Kashmiri separatists in Delhi, BJP calls it diplomatic blunder

[abhijitm]

Mumbai runs 2,342 suburban trains daily, Karachi none

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Mumbai runs 2,342 suburban trains daily, Karachi none

Though after Partition, Karachi and Mumbai (formerly Bombay) inherited almost the same rail infrastructure, the administration of Mumbai developed and expanded it successfully. On the other hand, the Karachi bosses destroyed it appallingly.

Today, the Karachi Circular Railway (KCR) is a huge failure, while the Mumbai rail system is a global success story with annual riders of more than 2.64 billion, becoming the second busiest rapid transit system in the world. Meanwhile in Karachi, commuters face immense problems after 11:00pm ( public transport almost disappears after that. But in Mumbai, trains run from 4am until 1am.

In comparison to the Mumbai rail system, the Karachi Circular Railway (KCR) is a sad story. It began regular passenger service in 1969 but was ultimately shut in 1999 due to gross mismanagement. KCR began its operation through the Pakistan Railways, with the aim of providing better transport facilities to Karachi and the surrounding suburbs.

Meanwhile about karachi-lahore business express..
Their online reservation page says

IMPORTANT: Online booking is closed till 10-July-2013 due to extra-ordinary bookings . Please contact our reservation offices in Lahore and Karachi to inquire about the last minute availability information and book your seat.
Reserve your seat for LAHORE-KARACHI-LAHORE travel. Once you have reserved your seat, you can make payment within 24 hours to confirm your seat.{This indeed is an extra-ordinary reservation system!}

Their tourism page is a tricky one. Click here. It has "Details of package are mentioned below" section and below are only blank lines. But don't get confused. This is a test for extra-ordinary smart bakistanis who want to book the package. Can you pass the test?

[Gerard]

Pakistan army shows its anti-drone technology

[anupmisra]

Their tourism page is a tricky one. Click here. It has "Details of package are mentioned below" section and below are only blank lines. But don't get confused. This is a test for extra-ordinary smart bakistanis who want to book the package. Can you pass the test?

What's so confusing about this offer? Here, let me elaborate:

Standard Honey Moon / Anniversary Package (Rs: 50,000)

• This package offers shared traveling within 6 person cabin.

Either the ad implies that six people can share a "standard" honey and moon package (must be Eid night food party) or it is aimed at the paki pathans for a six-some romp (euphemistically called "shared traveling").

[anupmisra]

Nawaz Sharif's adviser Sartaj Aziz to meet Kashmiri separatists in Delhi, BJP calls it diplomatic blunder

Why does India keep allowing separatists and terrorists to meet? This is not the first time.

[Vipul]

This Train Service IIRC was closed after the Pvt company running it ran an arrears of a big amount and then did not pay.Should have seen the TV coverage the day it was inaugurated. Typical Baki bombast of the Hi-Tec service(Wi-Fi internet only!!!) being the best in South Asia.