AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

[Dasari]

There is a big assumption among members here that AP assembly may not pass the T bill. I challenge this assumption. If you assume this based on anti congress mood among public in SA, you know very little how Congress MLAs/MPs work, especially from state of AP. Servility and deception have special signficance in AP congress. All they need is 30 congress MLAs to vote for T . The congress highcommand is working very hard in the back ground to get the requisite number. Just to give some insight, today Killi Krupa Rani and Panabaka came out publicly expressing loyalty to high command. Even from assembly, MLAs like P Bala raju and Kanna Laxminarayana are openly saying that they cannot go against high command. There are rumors that Purandeswari, Pallam Raju and TSR are all fell in line with high command. So they may get the 30 MLAs required. Also, there are about 15-20 mlas from SA who submitted resignation. They can force the speaker Nadendla to acept the resignations to ease the passage of the bill. Then this requires only 20-22 congress mlas from SA to vote for the bill.

The best case scenario for united AP supporters is artcile 371 D. By reading the article, i can't see how they can split the state without amending it. One line of thinking is that it doesn't stop the creation of the new state although it violates the current state, and they will worry about the second part later. Considering how everything else is going, does Congress care about it? The united AP suporters better put all the best legal brains from the country on this case and get a stay from SC. Othwerwise all this wishful thinking about BJP, Pranab will only become self deluding options.

[Hari Seldon]

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[Yagnasri]

Today Supreme Court heard 10 cases filed against division. Nariman, Salve appeared. I understand that he case was adjorned.

[syele]

Kiran Reddy suggested that instead of formation of separate Telangana state, a package of Rs.1 lakh crore be announced for the region to address its problems of unemployment, irrigation and electricity. He said that in an attempt to solve a problem, bigger problems should not be created by dividing the state.

See more at: http://www.greatandhra.com/politics/pol ... 6ZQCt.dpuf

[Yagnasri]

Why nation is required to pay money for Telugu people if their state is being divided or not divided. Why others suffer and forgo money of Teluguwalas useless political dramas? I personally feel if there is a division or no division no money should be given or financial help to be given to either side. If any side wants any money let them tax people and get th emoney. Huge wastage of money in the name of "welfare" is there in AP. The eligible marks for getting BE seat is 25% and all the BE education is free for BC, SC, ST students and fee is paid for many years directly to the private colleges which are being run i huts. Similarly so called Rajiv Arogya Sree another big loot payments to so called corporate hospitals. Free power is another once and Board is over 30K Cr loss. APSRTC is over 7Cr loss. We can not increase prices because "poor" people can not pay. Most of the free power is being spent in Telangana areas. They need 80K Cr for compleating the dams and need another 40K for power generaltion for lifing the water. The cost of lifing water may make the agriculture unviable. But the dams and other things will go ahead as no one can stop the stupidity.

If division takes place let it take place as an immediate division with no further benifits to anyone. Just divide loans and assets and kick people from hyderabad immediately and also let AP state governament removed from Hyderabad immediately. No time, no money, nothing.

That will be the correct process. Politicos who done the dividion will then has to answer as Telangana loses all power supply and AP fellows will kick their politicos in their A**.

[Yagnasri]

AG opinion siad to be negative. But this AG I am sorry to say anything but professional when it come to "serving" the nation. A more detailed opinion was sought.http://www.indianexpress.com/news/split ... /1196704/1

[Dasari]

Why nation is required to pay money for Telugu people if their state is being divided or not divided. Why others suffer and forgo money of Teluguwalas useless political dramas? I personally feel if there is a division or no division no money should be given or financial help to be given to either side. If any side wants any money let them tax people and get th emoney. Huge wastage of money in the name of "welfare" is there in AP. The eligible marks for getting BE seat is 25% and all the BE education is free for BC, SC, ST students and fee is paid for many years directly to the private colleges which are being run i huts. Similarly so called Rajiv Arogya Sree another big loot payments to so called corporate hospitals. Free power is another once and Board is over 30K Cr loss. APSRTC is over 7Cr loss. We can not increase prices because "poor" people can not pay. Most of the free power is being spent in Telangana areas. They need 80K Cr for compleating the dams and need another 40K for power generaltion for lifing the water. The cost of lifing water may make the agriculture unviable. But the dams and other things will go ahead as no one can stop the stupidity.

If division takes place let it take place as an immediate division with no further benifits to anyone. Just divide loans and assets and kick people from hyderabad immediately and also let AP state governament removed from Hyderabad immediately. No time, no money, nothing.

That will be the correct process. Politicos who done the dividion will then has to answer as Telangana loses all power supply and AP fellows will kick their politicos in their A**.

Great post. You went to the crux of the issues in the post-divided state without the usual obfuscation that happens here.

As you highlighted the promise of paying lakhs of crores of rupees is all nonsense. It amazes me how shamelessly they are throwing these numbers and how the SA Congress mantris are accepting it? Perhaps we should ask them to put their properties as collateral. In fact that is how they are selling 'sama nyayam' to SA. Lands and assets to T and huge package to SA. Perhaps 5 years from now, Congress will try to come back to power in SA accusing how NDA failed to give the promised package to SA ( i am assuming UPA is out in 2014).

So why all this BS about common capital? Let us worry about rest of the state. If KCR kicks SA people out, so be it. We deserve it. If you want to stop further decline, comeback to SA and kick those politicians who created this mess, inclduing the likes of Kavuri, Lagadapati, Botsa, Jagan, and CBN. Let us start all over again. Finally, make sure that these crooks don't get rewarded out of our misery. For example, today Panabaka's main point in her memo to GOM is to make her village the next capital. That is her answer to the division. She is SA national mantri, eternaly grateful to Sonia for making her mantri. They want to make money even out of peoples misery. The tragedy is that she may win again.

[Shanmukh]

For example, today Panabaka's main point in her memo to GOM is to make her village the next capital. That is her answer to the division. She is SA national mantri, eternaly grateful to Sonia for making her mantri. They want to make money even out of peoples misery. The tragedy is that she may win again.

Dasari-ji,
Sorry to ask, but is Panabaka Lakshmi trying to make Bapatla capital (she is MP from Bapatla, I think)? Can she locate Bapatla on a map?

[Dasari]

AG opinion siad to be negative. But this AG I am sorry to say anything but professional when it come to "serving" the nation. A more detailed opinion was sought.http://www.indianexpress.com/news/split ... /1196704/1

As I posted earlier, this is the ultimate hope for equal justice. If SA loses this debate, they better pack their bags and leave, and be at mercy of whatever the mafia decides. I'm not saying that T should not be formed. But due to congress political equations, the division became completely one sided. In fact, in the curent environment the T vadis may ask for Vizag to be included in T, and they may get it. All they have to do is let KCR make it a big issue and Congress will match it for fear of losing ground to TRS. That is how the division process currently going.

A legal victory in 371-d brings balance to the process and let both parties to work together to settle amicably. Let us hope 371-D prevails for the sake of sanity in division.

[Vayutuvan]

Dasari, if the hon minister is saying that Bapatla is a village, she is not correct. I think it is a mid-size town.

[Dasari]

For example, today Panabaka's main point in her memo to GOM is to make her village the next capital. That is her answer to the division. She is SA national mantri, eternaly grateful to Sonia for making her mantri. They want to make money even out of peoples misery. The tragedy is that she may win again.

Dasari-ji,
Sorry to ask, but is Panabaka Lakshmi trying to make Bapatla capital (she is MP from Bapatla, I think)? Can she locate Bapatla on a map?

Nagesh-ji, I think so. She didn't literally say Bapatla. She eluded to area around her place. But you got my point?. Is this the time to recommend that her place be made the new capital?. Is this what we expect from a central minister? Infact, if I remember correct, she was the first SA cabinet minister who said that she would not oppose the high command decision.

[Dasari]

A very good discussion on article 371-D. see the comments in response to the article from the TRS leader.
Article 371(D) is not a hurdle for Telangana

[Dasari]

Here is article 371-D in total.

371D. Special provisions with respect to the State of Andhra Pradesh.-
(1) The President may by order made with respect to the State of Andhra Pradesh provide, having regard to the requirements of the State as a whole, for equitable opportunities and facilities for the people belonging to different parts of the State, in the matter of public employment and in the matter of education, and different provisions may be made for various parts of the State.

(2) An order made under clause (1) may, in particular,-

(a) require the State Government to organise any class or classes of posts in a civil service of, or any class or classes of civil posts under, the State into different local cadres for different parts of the State and allot in accordance with such principles and procedure as may be specified in the order the persons holding such posts to the local cadres so organised;

(b) specify any part or parts of the State which shall be regarded as the local area-

(i) for direct recruitment to posts in any local cadre (whether organised in pursuance of an order under this article or constituted otherwise) under the State Government;

(ii) for direct recruitment to posts in any cadre under any local authority within the State; and

(iii) for the purposes of admission to any University within the State or to any other educational institution which is subject to the control of the State Government;

(c) specify the extent to which, the manner in which and the conditions subject to which, preference or reservation shall be given or made-

(i) in the matter of direct recruitment to posts in any such cadre referred to in sub-clause (b) as may be specified in this behalf in the order;

(ii) in the matter of admission to any such University or other educational institution referred to in sub-clause (b) as may be specified in this behalf in the order,

to or in favour of candidates who have resided or studied for any period specified in the order in the local area in respect of such cadre, University or other educational institution, as the case may be.

(3) The President may, by order, provide for the constitution of an Administrative Tribunal for the State of Andhra Pradesh to exercise such jurisdiction, powers and authority [including any jurisdiction, power and authority which immediately before the commencement of the Constitution (Thirty-second Amendment) Act, 1973, was exercisable by any court (other than the Supreme Court) or by any tribunal or other authority] as may be specified in the order with respect to the following matters, namely:-

(a) appointment, allotment or promotion to such class or classes of posts in any civil service of the State, or to such class or classes of civil posts under the State, or to such class or classes of posts under the control of any local authority within the State, as may be specified in the order;

(b) Seniority of persons appointed, allotted or promoted to such class or classes of posts in any civil service of the State, or to such class or classes of civil posts under the State, or to such class or classes of posts under the control of any local authority within the State, as may be specified in the order;

(c) such other conditions of service of persons appointed, allotted or promoted to such class or classes of posts in any civil service of the State or to such class or classes of civil posts under the State or to such class or classes of posts under the control of any local authority within the State, as may be specified in the order.

(4) An order made under clause (3) may-

(a) authorise the Administrative Tribunal to receive representations for the redress of grievances relating to any matter within its jurisdiction as the President may specify in the order and to make such orders thereon as the Administrative Tribunal deems fit;

(b) contain such provisions with respect to the powers and authorities and procedure of the Administrative Tribunal (including provisions with respect to the powers of the Administrative Tribunal to punish for contempt of itself) as the President may deem necessary;

(c) provide for the transfer to the Administrative Tribunal of such classes of proceedings, being proceedings relating to matters within its jurisdiction and pending before any court (other than the Supreme Court) or tribunal or other authority immediately before the commencement of such order, as may be specified in the order;

(d) contain such supplemental, incidental and consequential provisions (including provisions as to fees and as to limitation, evidence or for the application of any law for the time being in force subject to any exceptions or modifications) as the President may deem necessary.

_370(5) the order of the Administrative Tribunal finally disposing of any case shall become effective upon its confirmation by the State Government or on the expiry of three months from the date on which the order is made, whichever is earlier:

Provided that the State Government may, by special order made in writing and for reasons to be specified therein, modify or annul any order of the Administrative Tribunal before it becomes effective and in such a case, the order of the Administrative Tribunal shall have effect only in such modified form or be of no effect, as the case may be.

(6) Every special order made by the State Government under the proviso to clause (5) shall be laid, as soon as may be after it is made, before both Houses of the State Legislature.

(7) The High Court for the State shall not have any powers of superintendence over the Administrative Tribunal and no court (other than the Supreme Court) or tribunal shall exercise any jurisdiction, power or authority in respect of any matter subject to the jurisdiction, power or authority of, or in relation to, the Administrative Tribunal.

(8) If the President is satisfied that the continued existence of the Administrative Tribunal is not necessary, the President may by order abolish the Administrative Tribunal and make such provisions in such order as he may deem fit for the transfer and disposal of cases pending before the Tribunal immediately before such abolition.

(9) Notwithstanding any judgment, decree or order of any court, tribunal or other authority,-

(a) no appointment, posting, promotion or transfer of any person-

(i) made before the 1st day of November, 1956, to any post under the Government of, or any local authority within, the State of Hyderabad as it existed before that date; or

(ii) made before the commencement of the Constitution (Thirty-second Amendment) Act, 1973, to any post under the Government of, or any local or other authority within, the State of Andhra Pradesh; and

(b) no action taken or thing done by or before any person referred to in sub-clause (a),

shall be deemed to be illegal or void or ever to have become illegal or void merely on the ground that the appointment, posting, promotion or transfer of such person was not made in accordance with any law, then in force, providing for any requirement as to residence within the State of Hyderabad or, as the case may be, within any part of the State of Andhra Pradesh, in respect of such appointment, posting, promotion or transfer.

(10) The provisions of this article and of any order made by the President thereunder shall have effect notwithstanding anything in any other provision of this Constitution or in any other law for the time being in force.]

[Yagnasri]

She said to have purchased, some say, on behalf of mafia queen and ion of state. her advisor, huge lands in Ongole. She openly supports division of AP. She is SC/ST and have no hpolitical base. mafia queen said to have promissed RS seat to her.

As I have posted 371d is a very gray area.

[Shanmukh]

Nagesh-ji, I think so. She didn't literally say Bapatla. She eluded to area around her place. But you got my point?. Is this the time to recommend that her place be made the new capital?. Is this what we expect from a central minister? Infact, if I remember correct, she was the first SA cabinet minister who said that she would not oppose the high command decision.

i get the point and it is frankly ridiculous for her to try this game at such a time. I don't think the people are going to forgive this. If she is smart, she will quietly retire for this election.

[Yagnasri]

She has no self respect and is very close to mafia queen. So no issues.

[VenkataS]

Now Princeton is awarding PhDs for studies on Kammas. This is thesis presentation by one student.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vBvExh7-QY

This is very very recent so I still haven't watched completely

New and updated insights to cleave heathens from one another is always welcome to the West.

How do we get the pdf document with respect to her dissertation on this. Academia has a document which only has the abstract and contents but not the whole document.

[svenkat]

[url=ttp://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/ ... 364970.ece]ttp://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/ ... 364970.ece[/url]

The parliamentary process on Telangana will have to be preceded by three crucial steps once the Group of Ministers (GoM) submits its report to the Cabinet, which will consider and approve it as it is or with amendments.


Once the Cabinet puts its seal of approval on the proposed Andhra Pradesh Reorganisation Bill, it will be referred to President Pranab Mukherjee, who in turn would refer it to the Andhra Pradesh Assembly for consideration.


At a news conference here, Chief Minister Kiran Kumar Reddy said the State Assembly is required to meet in December to meet the constitutional requirement that there could not be more than a gap of six months between two sessions.


While the President is required to send the Bill as approved by the Cabinet to the Assembly for consideration, approval of the legislature is not mandatory for the creation of a State.


In their presentation to the GoM, the Union Ministers from Andhra Pradesh stuck to their known stand. While those representing Telangana argued in favour of bifurcation, broadly on the lines of the July 30 resolution of the Congress Working Committee (CWC), those representing the coastal districts and Rayalaseema opposed to the bifurcation came out with different views on the issue if creation of Telangana was inevitable.


Hyderabad was a major bone of contention in the presentations made by the Ministers from all three regions. The CWC resolution had said Hyderabad should be joint capital of both States for 10 years. While the Union Ministers from Seemandhra stressed that Hyderabad should be made into a Union Territory, those from the Telangana region said the new State would be “incomplete” without Hyderabad as the capital.


Union Minister V. Kishore Chandra Deo, who is from Seemandhra, submitted a separate memorandum to the GoM, demanding that Visakhapatnam be made the capital of residual Andhra Pradesh.


Briefing reporters after the meeting, Union Science and Technology Minister S Jaipal Reddy said Hyderabad is part and parcel of Telangana. Ministers led by Mr. Reddy said the Bhadrachalam revenue sub-division should be an integral part of Telangana and not be given to residual Andhra Pradesh.


He argued that there was no need for any tribunal on sharing of the Godavari water but one was needed for the Krishna river.

[Yagnasri]

It seems BJP saying now that Bhadrachalam not to be in T and Polavaram should proceed as per the present design.

[ramana]

Notice Hindu goes into a lot of details on how the division is to be undertaken.

[ShyamSP]

It seems BJP saying now that Bhadrachalam not to be in T and Polavaram should proceed as per the present design.

First and foremost, how can Bhadrachalam be in Telangana in case of division? It was with Godavari districts and will go with East Godavari district.

It is a strawman and they are trying to use it as negotiating item. Center, Congress, BJP and T folks can say: "See we've given up on Bhadrachalam and you give up on Hyderabad and everything you have and agree to division."

[Muppalla]

It seems BJP saying now that Bhadrachalam not to be in T and Polavaram should proceed as per the present design.

First and foremost, how can Bhadrachalam be in Telangana in case of division? It was with Godavari districts and will go with East Godavari district.

It is a strawman and they are trying to use it as negotiating item. Center, Congress, BJP and T folks can say: "See we've given up on Bhadrachalam and you give up on Hyderabad and everything you have and agree to division."

Was it not part of Nizam before it was made part of Godavari district? I think Bhadrachalam was for very short period with Godavari district. I am not sure though.

[Dasari]

It seems BJP saying now that Bhadrachalam not to be in T and Polavaram should proceed as per the present design.

First and foremost, how can Bhadrachalam be in Telangana in case of division? It was with Godavari districts and will go with East Godavari district.

It is a strawman and they are trying to use it as negotiating item. Center, Congress, BJP and T folks can say: "See we've given up on Bhadrachalam and you give up on Hyderabad and everything you have and agree to division."

Was it not part of Nizam before it was made part of Godavari district? I think Bhadrachalam was for very short period with Godavari district. I am not sure though.

It was part of Nizam just like rest of the 13 districts were part of Nizam. When Nizam ceded first Kosta area and then Rayalaseema area to British, any thing east of Godavari and South of Krishna was part of Madras presidency. So Bradrachalam on the east of river Godavari was part of East Godavari. Only after 1956, since badarachalam is far from kakinada, it was merged with Khammam. It was thrown into the division equation when they realized that political compulsions of Congress can be used to blackmail to get anything in their favor. All the slogans of 'demerger', 'Telangana as it was before 1956' were set aside like a conquering army that suddenly found that the entire defence of the opposing army is collapsed, and now they don't know where and when to stop the advance.

The lame excuse for this change of stance is that Kancherla Goppanna (Ramdas) village, Nelakondapalli, is on the other side of Godavari and it cannot be separated from the Temple town. May be somebody need to bring up Potana and question whether Warangal can be separated from Andhra. Sickening. 50 years from now the historians will be puzzled at all of this myopia.

[VenkataS]

It seems BJP saying now that Bhadrachalam not to be in T and Polavaram should proceed as per the present design.

First and foremost, how can Bhadrachalam be in Telangana in case of division? It was with Godavari districts and will go with East Godavari district.

It is a strawman and they are trying to use it as negotiating item. Center, Congress, BJP and T folks can say: "See we've given up on Bhadrachalam and you give up on Hyderabad and everything you have and agree to division."

Was it not part of Nizam before it was made part of Godavari district? I think Bhadrachalam was for very short period with Godavari district. I am not sure though.

No it was under british rule from 1768 onwards. Bhadrachalam along with Munagala (Krishna district) and Aswaraopeta (West Godavari) were added to Khammam in 1959.
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... ayalaseema

[vishvak]

Its more like a cultural tradition made to look like state formation issue coming up during elections. Bhadrachalam temple town has little to do with current issues and vice versa.

[Muppalla]

Thanks for the gyan related to Bhadrachalam.

It seems that Attorney Genneral has given that 371 needs to be amended to do bifurcation of the state. Not seen any news yet.

Regarding KKR as another front by Congress - I stand by my earlier statement. He is not independent and being orchestrated. Today all news channels in Telugu are about his two books released about details. Now suddenly this KKR is champion of Seemandhra and is in direct competion with Jagan. This may not be at grassroots but again thinking back who is Arvind Kejriwal before the anti-corruption anger's orchestration?.

I request everyone to look back the decade. Everything related to the bifurcation is about central congress having a grip over AP politics and resources. It just don't want any regional satrap like YSR. It even does not want to lose grip of the state. The plot may not work is another thing but the plot is very clear.

(1) Give very high prominence to KCR and then declare we will give T
(2) (1) made all the SA politicians as no one on Telangana. The congress does not have any regional-satrap types in Telangana
(3) Put the T state in pending so that they can again go to election with divided population.
(4) as the pressure mounts declare again T
(5) get the legal and constitution as a hurdle to not give T
(6) meawhile create another front using its own CM but he abuses central congress and creates a front with some rich folks
(7) go to T area and say we sacrificed everything for you and we will get you state in the next term as it needs constitutional amendment etc

Basically the 8 crore AP folks are the monkeys and they are making disco dance on side and theen-maar on otherside while having Italian wine.

[ramana]

It just don't want any regional satrap like YSR.

I said same thing some pages back.
YSR shook the DIEnasty like no one else.
And their thinking is AP is the basis for YSR to shake them up.

They dont want any future threat like that.

AP even with the turmoil is still #4 state in all India and #1 state in South India.

So need to break it up and remove all traces of it.

YSR was also working on creating a small block of ~70-90 MPs in South India and become a power center.

So this division is pursued relentlessly.

Dasari is right now TRS types are asking for everything as they know DIEnasty is on the ropes and will give anything. And CBN types are collapsed.
I was told two years back to expect Tirupati to be hived off toTN state.

[Muppalla]

I was told two years back to expect Tirupati to be hived off toTN state.

This is only possible if one of more of the following happens:
(1) Rayalatelangana
(2) Transferring Badhrachalam to AP instead of keeping it with Telangana
(3) Hyderabad as a UT instead of clear path of when to transfer to Telangana

Basically if slicing is allowed then anything can be sliced based on who has more power to influence the central admin.

[Yagnasri]

True. Political might is right.

[Rony]

Did not know this rat is a EJ

Actor Raja Abel aka Raja, the hero of many Telugu movies declared he would launch a Christian political party for protecting the rights of christians. Speaking at a private function in Krishna Dst., Raja said there is a threat of NDA coming to power and so he is in discussions with various groups to form a Christian political party by January, just in time for next elections.Raja earlier joined Congress party during YSR’s rule and has been mostly inactive after his death.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cNHp7ga_p8

[Lilo]

^^ Accompanying picture... EJ in chief YSR felicitating Upcoming EJ on joining congress party in 2009

[Altair]

Did not know this rat is a EJ

Actor Raja Abel aka Raja, the hero of many Telugu movies declared he would launch a Christian political party for protecting the rights of christians. Speaking at a private function in Krishna Dst., Raja said there is a threat of NDA coming to power and so he is in discussions with various groups to form a Christian political party by January, just in time for next elections.Raja earlier joined Congress party during YSR’s rule and has been mostly inactive after his death.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cNHp7ga_p8

The escape velocity for a new party in AP is enormous. There are lot of players with own agendas. A new party only on basis of religion is not possible as of now. He is a hopeless character in his personal life. If he launches its good for him as a lot of money can be diverted from donations.

[Yagnasri]

Hero of the movie Anand ? He is Brahmin Ysr gang supporting ej fellow. You need to be ej to be in ysr gang.

[vishvak]

Hero of the movie Anand ? He is Brahmin Ysr gang supporting ej fellow. You need to be ej to be in ysr gang.

Would USA or Europe allow such behaviour from a religion that claims minority status.

Strange democracy in India. The international media is silent about this aspect totally.

[ramana]

Looks like the signal to all teh jackals to rip up the state politically has been sent. We will see even more egregious characters seeking to create dissension. End goal will be to ensure TDP wont come to power in any manner at same time YSJ who seems to be tasked with that goal doesn't get too powerful.

[ShyamSP]

Did not know this rat is a EJ

Actor Raja Abel aka Raja, the hero of many Telugu movies declared he would launch a Christian political party for protecting the rights of christians. Speaking at a private function in Krishna Dst., Raja said there is a threat of NDA coming to power and so he is in discussions with various groups to form a Christian political party by January, just in time for next elections.Raja earlier joined Congress party during YSR’s rule and has been mostly inactive after his death.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cNHp7ga_p8

This is to go after TDP EJ votebank that YSRC and INC can't get. In Seemandhra TDP is leading and any slicing of its votebanks will be helpful for YSRC+INC. For now, in Seemandhra, vote bank percentage order is like TDP, YSRC, INC (INC+KKR+PRP) with, possibly, TDP > YSRC+INC

In fact BJP in the Telangana should be doing like this - slice and dice INC and TRS votebanks. Instead they get a few TDP % and feel they achieved something, which in essence a loss to them. BJP is going with tactics relying on Kishan Reddy who may be compromised with YSRC.

[Yagnasri]

Spoken with a prominent BJP leader today. Many bjp leaders in AP have little knowledge on irrigation water related issues. The meetings internal are very hot with few people with knowledge taking on others who blindly support division. According to him water will be serious issue which everyone ignoreing with madness on Hyderabad. Central leadership was also being informed. But not much movement so far. Many in Delhi now asking why they are playing mafia game?

[Shanmukh]

In fact BJP in the Telangana should be doing like this. To slice and dice INC and TRS votebank. Instead they get a few TDP % and feel they achieved something. BJP is going with tactics relying on Kishan Reddy who may be compromised with YSRC.

ShyamSP-ji,
From what I hear, they are trying to get as much of the TRS votebank as they can - breaking the TRS, by getting Vijayashanthi, A Narendra, etc. But - my source said that the INC votebank has thus far remained out of the reach of the BJP. In fact, by undercutting the TRS and getting back the old BJP cadres who deserted the BJP for TRS, the BJP maybe indirectly helping the Congress. Kishan Reddy is proving unable to make a dent in the Reddy votebank, particularly outside Nalagonda (where Indrasena Reddy has some influence). The SCs and the EJs are all with the Congress. It depends on what the backward castes do, I guess. The BJP is also trying to poach off as much of the YSR Congress votebank in Telangana (particularly the non EJ crowd), but I don't know how successful they are going to be in that task.

A question for you ShyamSP-ji. If the Congress proves unable to pass the Telangana Bill (for whatever reasons), will the Congress votebank in Telangana stay with it? Can the Reddy votebank of the Congress be broken, in that case?

[Yagnasri]

Somehow mafia will proceed with division. It may not be constitutional, proper etc. But it be done. Mafia queen already decreed it.

Thou will be done.

Pranab with his son seat and SC with post retirement postings may not be stop. But u can never know.

[KJo]

Wiki-ramaditya ( TM KJoishy) uvacha

Raja was born as Raja Abel in Visakhapatnam to a Christian mother from London and Hindu father from Andhra Pradesh.[1]