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Acharya wrote:
Jhujar wrote: If India were to take its place at the heart of a loose Anglosphere network, based on free trade and military alliance, the future would suddenly look a great deal brighter. Of course, to join such a free trade area, the U.K. and Ireland would have to leave the EU. But that's another story.
Only if it allow free movement of labor/ people among these nations. This is where we can relocate 1/3of population benefitial to Alll of us.
THese are all articles and talks. They are nothing to do with reality. The last 50 years Indian economy has not had real trading relations with the sphere.
From Economy of India
The services sector provides employment to 27% of the work force
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It has the largest share in the GDP, accounting for 57% in 2012, up from 15% in 1950.
Whom do you think all that trade is with, Acharya ?
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KrishnaK wrote:
Whom do you think all that trade is with, Acharya ?
Look at the hard trade agreement. How many of these countries supported India in the larger trade blocks.

Service sector is called as informal sector always. It can be removed anytime. The media propaganda against Indian service sector is seen by everybody. Why are they not stopping that. Can you explain why

They have been trying to push India to open its market for products. Where is the market for Indian products?
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We must remember that they do control the largest portion of land on planet. IMHO, lets get Caneda and Australia under control with hundred fifty million Indians settled in each of these nation. And another Mid2 Digit crores among others. Then we can think of the rest/ future part of bargain later on leveraging demographic tool.
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Acharya wrote:
KrishnaK wrote:
Whom do you think all that trade is with, Acharya ?
Look at the hard trade agreement. How many of these countries supported India in the larger trade blocks.
Your initial statement was
The last 50 years Indian economy has not had real trading relations with the sphere.
That has nothing to do with them supporting India.
Service sector is called as informal sector always. It can be removed anytime. The media propaganda against Indian service sector is seen by everybody. Why are they not stopping that. Can you explain why
Who's they ? People being affected by Indian service exports will try to work against that. It's only natural. Just like companies benefitting from it, lobby FOR it. And no, it's cannot be removed anytime.
They have been trying to push India to open its market for products. Where is the market for Indian products?
There seems to be a pretty good market for Indian products depending on what those products are. Become competitive in other sectors and you'll find markets for those too.
Exports $309.1 billion (2012 est.)
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brihaspati wrote:Ireland is not going for any military alliance with India - given the strong anti-nuclear lobby in the country. The connection of the anti-nuclear movement with other geo-political aspects of Ireland, such as its strong Roman Catholic ties and attendant/or otherwise anti-Semitism cloaked within the anti-Israel formal posturing are usually not collectively analyzed. But my sense would be a very strong antipathy towards India as a pagan-not-anti-Israel-nuclear-power to further strengthen military ties, while looking at India in the pseudo-colonial lens as a economic space to benefit from that, it possibly inherited from collaboration with the imperial Brits.

UK would love to have military alliances with India in some formal capacity - so that it had greater handle and access, if possible to infiltrate the Indian security structures. But it would do so not to protect Indian interests from India's viewpoints, but from the racial and insular viewpoint it has always looked at the rest of the world. In that viewpoint, UK looks up to only those nations it had lost wars with, or which it knows can crush it in military confrontations. US interests will come far above any Indian interests in such potential alliances, and of course the basic religious and cultural bias will always work towards UK looking after Pakistani and Bangladeshi interests even within such alliances with India.
Vatican has huge influence over catholic countries. You can see how latin american countries are controlled by catholic church. Catholic church views hinduism in the same way arab islamists look at hinduism. Do not expect any close relations between any catholic countries and india in the same as we do not see any close relation between any islamic country and india. That rules out ireland which is as catholic as any latin american country. UK and America being majority non-catholic have more tolerance for indian/hindu culture and there is scope for some practical give and take relationship. But we have to be careful we can be easily taken for a ride. Soivet union/russia had helped us with arms supplies because it was not catholic. Same is the case with jewish israel. If in future china becomes democratic the I see tremendous possibility for close relations between india and open democratic china.
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Dunno if this is the right thread but here goes.

http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175766/ ... _clean_war
Redefining “Imminent Threat”

In early 2013, a Department of Justice “white paper” surfaced that laid out the “Lawfulness of a Lethal Operation Directed Against a U.S. Citizen.” The government lawyers who wrote the 16-page document asserted that the government need not possess specific intelligence indicating that an American citizen is actively engaged in a particular or active terror plot in order to be cleared for targeted killing. Instead, the paper argued that a determination from a “well-informed high level administration official” that a target represents an “imminent threat” to the United States is a sufficient basis to order the killing of an American citizen. But the Justice Department’s lawyers sought to alter the definition of “imminent,” advocating what they called a “broader concept of imminence.”

They wrote, “The condition that an operational leader present an ‘imminent’ threat of violent attack against the United States does not require the United States to have clear evidence that a specific attack on U.S. persons will take place in the immediate future.” The government lawyers argued that waiting for a targeted killing of a suspect “until preparations for an attack are concluded, would not allow the United States sufficient time to defend itself.” They asserted that such an operation constitutes “a lawful killing in self-defense” and is “not an assassination.”

Jameel Jaffer of the ACLU called the white paper a “chilling document,” saying that “it argues that the government has the right to carry out the extrajudicial killing of an American citizen.” Jaffer added, “This power is going to be available to the next administration and the one after that, and it’s going to be available in every future conflict, not just the conflict against al-Qaeda. And according to the [Obama] administration, the power is available all over the world, not just on geographically cabined battlefields. So it really is a sweeping proposition.”
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After the Pax Americana

by Jonathan Spyer
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November 9, 2013

http://www.meforum.org/3669/after-pax-americana


A report this week in the pro-Hizballah newspaper Al-Akhbar claimed that the Turks have expelled a number of Saudi intelligence officers from their soil, because of disputes between the two countries over policy toward Syria and Egypt.

Whatever the veracity of the report (Al-Akhbar can have a vivid imagination), a quote in the article from an un-named Turkish source succeeds in pointing out pithily and concisely the current core strategic dynamic in the Middle East.

The quote is "Turkish officials believe Saudi Arabia, along with Jordan and the United Arab Emirates, are strategically working against the interests of two different regional blocs: Hezbollah, Syria, Iran and Iraq on one front, and Turkey, Qatar, Hamas, and the Muslim Brotherhood on the other."

If Turkish officials do indeed believe this, then they have it right. There are today three discernible de facto alliances operating in the Middle East. Interestingly, for the first time in half a century, none of the major blocs engaged are clearly aligned with the U.S. and the West.

Let's look at these three blocs in a little more detail.

The first, Iranian-led bloc, including Assad in Syria and Hizballah in Lebanon, is the most familiar. The Iranian ambition, clearly stated, is to replace the U.S. as the dominant power in the energy-rich Gulf area, to build a contiguous alliance of pro-Iranian states stretching from the Iranian border to the Mediterranean and into the Levant, and thus to emerge as the strongest force in the Middle East. It is committed to acquiring a nuclear capability to underwrite and insure this process against action to prevent it.

Iran's Shia nature means that this bloc has a legitimacy gap outside of the minority Shia Arab populations which is probably insurmountable. Because of ideological conviction and also to bridge this gap, Iran noisily proclaims itself for the destruction of Israel. It believes sincerely in this, but it also hopes to woo the Sunni Arab masses through this appeal to an objective also dear to their hearts.

The second bloc noted by the "Turkish officials" is that of "Turkey, Qatar, Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood." This is the Sunni Islamist alignment that a year ago looked to be on the march across the region, as a result of the popular uprisings once misleadingly called the "Arab Spring."

But 2013 has been a terrible year for the Muslim Brothers. They have lost power in Egypt and in Tunisia. A new emir in Qatar appears to prefer a more modest regional stance. And in Syria, al-Qaeda and Salafi-oriented units now form the most active pillar in a confused insurgency which shows signs of turning in on itself.

The eclipse of this bloc in turn draws attention to the third alliance mentioned in the quote. This is the bloc consisting of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and the Gulf Cooperation Council countries excluding Qatar. It is the bloc of the conservative Sunni Arab monarchies.

The monarchies survived intact the recent wave of popular agitation in the Arab world, which instead took its toll on the "secular," military regimes.

But Saudi Arabia was infuriated by the Qatar-MB nexus, and set out to roll it back. Saudi support for Sisi's coup in Egypt formed an important part of the latter's success.

The Saudis are also terrified at the prospect of a nuclear Iran and subsequent domination of the Gulf and the wider region. Saudi support for and cultivation of allies in Syria, Lebanon, Bahrain, Yemen and elsewhere should be seen in this light.

So the Saudis are engaged in a political war on two fronts, with an acute awareness of the high stakes involved.

The Iranians and their allies have a clear-eyed view of the obstacles to their ambitions, as indicated by the appearance of this article in Al-Akhbar.

The Turks and the Muslim Brotherhood also well understand the nature of the power political game. Their current dismay reflects their recent setbacks in it.

Israel, too, has an acute understanding of the Iranian threat and is a powerful, un-declared ally to the Saudi-led bloc.

Everyone gets the nature of the game. Until you look outside of the region.

The dominant trends in the U.S. and western Europe entirely fail to grasp the nature and the dynamic of this contest. There, the talk remains filled with airy hopes of a new era represented by President Rouhani of Iran, focus on the insolvable, currently dormant Israeli-Palestinian conflict, nostalgia for the "Arab Spring," and hope that a new wave of supposedly democratizing protest may still be ahead, or simply fatigue and a desire to disengage. In general — confusion and feeble-mindedness.

Now, the Saudis have so far done quite well, using money and political influence, against the Muslim Brotherhood.

But against the Iranians, who know how to utilize hard power effectively, as they are demonstrating in Syria, the monarchies are in a far weaker position. The Saudis can do politics, but have a poor record of organizing insurgencies. In the days when they were just part of a larger pro-American formation in the region, this didn't matter much. Uncle Sam took care of keeping the really bad guys at bay. But Uncle Sam isn' t quite there anymore.

This leaves Israel, the undeclared ally, as the only element with both the will and the ability to effectively deploy force against the Iranians and their allies, as it has demonstrated at least five times over the skies of Syria in the past year. :mrgreen:

Which means that if the U.S. and the West really are determined to disengage, then the stage is set for a three-bloc fight for the regional crown. This fight and its outcome will define the Middle East in the era following the long Pax Americana that held sway from 1973 til sometime around now.

Jonathan Spyer is a senior research fellow at the Global Research in International Affairs (GLORIA) Center, and a fellow at the Middle East Forum.
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Pentagon Issues 'Arctic Strategy' - Thom Shanker, NYT
As a shrinking northern ice cap sets the stage for increased competition over natural resources, Defence Secretary Chuck Hagel on Friday released the Pentagon’s first “Arctic Strategy,” designed to safeguard U.S. security interests and the region’s environment.

Speaking at an international security forum in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Mr. Hagel described the challenges facing the world as warming global temperatures shrink the polar ice and as Russia, China and other nations compete for economic opportunities and influence in the region.

He noted that tourism, shipping and commercial fishing might gravitate toward new Arctic sea routes, but he underscored in particular what could happen as nations vie for the region’s vast quantities of oil and gas.

‘Increase in interest’

“A flood of interest in energy exploration has the potential to heighten tensions over other issues,” Mr. Hagel said. Multilateral security cooperation would be a priority as “this will ultimately help reduce the risk of conflict.”

Although the Arctic is a region of established nations, including the United States, Canada, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Russia and Sweden, the polar north would be shaped by economic, political and security issues arising from different countries in other regions, Mr. Hagel said.

“Among them are the growing economic and geopolitical importance of the Asia-Pacific; conflict and instability across West Asia and North Africa; the unprecedented diffusion of global economic power; demand for energy; the rise of China, India, Brazil and other nations; environmental degradation and devastating natural disasters; and the role of technology in closely linking the world’s people, their aspirations and their grievances,” he said.

Deter and prevent

While “climate change does not directly cause conflict,” Mr. Hagel said, it might “significantly add to the challenges of global instability, hunger, poverty and conflict.” He cited “food and water shortages, pandemic disease, disputes over refugees and resources and more severe natural disasters.”

The Pentagon’s Arctic strategy places a priority on preparations to detect, deter, prevent and defeat threats to the United States even as the nation “will continue to exercise U.S. sovereignty in and around Alaska,” Mr. Hagel said.

The strategy calls for working with “private and public sector partners, including the state of Alaska, federal agencies, such as the U.S. Coast Guard, to improve our understanding and awareness of the Arctic environment so that we can operate safely and effectively,” he added.
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The Return of Russian Hard Power?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... power.html
Last Good Friday, two Russian Tu-22M3 bombers, escorted by four Su-27 fighter aircraft, simulated an aerial assault on two military targets in Sweden— the first near the capital Stockholm and the second in a southern part of the country. This was then followed in September by Zapad-13 (“Zapad” means “West”), Russia’s biannual military exercise, which this year was jointly held with Belarusian forces variously in Belarus, along the borders of Poland, Latvia, Lithuania and in Kaliningrad, Russia’s non-contiguous seaport territory that lies between Poland and Lithuania.For one thing, NATO’s own just-concluded war game belied any sense of continental security. Zapad-13 and the other unannounced pretend-invasions were no doubt staged by Russia in pre-emptive response to Operation Steadfast Jazz 2013, the largest NATO live-fire exercise in seven years
By 2020, if current targets are met, Russia will have added 40 new, combat-ready brigades to its army, giving it eight more than what the U.S. is projected to have by 2017. Seventy percent of those forces will be outfitted with state-of-the-art equipment. The defense ministry has also announced plans to create a million-man, active-duty army by 2020. As the U.S. languishes in sequestration blues, Putin has unilaterally pledged $755 billion to completely modernizing the Russian army and restoring it to its lost period of grandeur. Two horribly mismanaged wars in Chechnya in the mid-to-late 90s, and a less-than-stellar performance in 2008 against Georgia provided the justification for this mass renovation. Putin has said, with near Five-Year Plan hyperbole, that modernizatsiia can become a catch-all economic reform in its own right, “a locomotive that will pull the various industries: metallurgy, mechanical engineering, the chemical and radio-electric industries, the entire IT and telecommunications range.”
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SS, Likes like under Kurshid,the MEA, Indian Foreign Policy is at sea and not put to sea!!!
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Israelis, Saudis and the Iranian Agreement --- Stratfor Geopolitical Weekly Dated 26-Nov-2013

This article virtually paints a picture of USA distancing itself from the House of Saud and the House of Jews. Though it is a flawed analysis, mainly because the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Government would have to play its part, namely abandon or greatly reduce its backing for Hezbollaha and other militant proxies. Also it would require a fundamental shift on the part of the Iranian clergy, a agreement with the so called great satan. Also it assumes that the reconciliation path undertaken by USA and Iran is irrevocable, which is further from the truth. It is just the beginning. For this to be carried forward to its so called "logical conclusion" would take time, probably something which would require the next POTUS to carry it forward.

Having said that there are certain points which are noteworthy
Israelis, Saudis and the Iranian Agreement --- Stratfor Geopolitical Weekly wrote: Israel and Saudi Arabia have been the two countries with the greatest influence in Washington. As this agreement shows, that is no longer the case. Both together weren't strong enough to block this agreement. What frightens them the most about this agreement is that fact. If the foundation of their national security is the American commitment to them, then the inability to influence Washington is a threat to their national security.

There are no other guarantors available.
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The fact is that neither the Saudis nor the Israelis have a potential patron other than the United States.
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What the United States wants to do is retain its relationship with Israel and Saudi Arabia, but on modified terms. The modification is that U.S. support will come in the context of a balance of power, particularly between Iran and Saudi Arabia. While the United States is prepared to support the Saudis in that context, it will not simply support them absolutely.
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Washington has learned that it has interests in the region, but that the direct use of American force cannot achieve those goals, partly because imposing solutions takes more force than the United States has
The last part is important. Maybe USA wants to focus more on Western Pacific where the future threat to its dominance will rise from. Or maybe worse. But it is instructive to note another fact. In-spite of what Pakistan has been doing to America since 9/11, America has not threatened the Pakistani State in any significant manner. Maybe it is because USA's ground forces number less than 1 million and Pakistan's population is in excess of 150 million. America can bomb Pakistan to stone ages but it cannot impose its will on Pakistan. Now Pakistan is a small fish. The threat which USA faces in Western Pacific is much bigger. There also one sees that USA has the power to deter but not to overturn. Once it is presented with Fait accompli, USA might not be in a position to alter the ground realities.

Now coming back to the house of Saud. Just like Pakistan, the House of Saud was a British creation, initially created to wreak havoc on its old rival, the Ottoman Empire and to serve the empires interest. Later on after WWI it was the influence of Mecca and Medina on the Islamic fraternity around the world. Near and after WWII Oil and Gas was the purpose. As the article notes
the perpetual Saudi inability to create an armed force capable of effectively defending itself has led the United States to send troops on occasion -- and contractors always -- to deal with the problem. Under the new strategy, the expectation is that Saudi soldiers will fight Saudi Arabia's wars -- with American assistance as needed, but not as an alternative force.
There are reasons why Saudi Arabia has not created an effective armed force. It is because a fear of being overthrown by the tiger reared in captivity. The History of West Asia and Northern Africa is littered with Monarchs who had capable armies only to be overthrown. Egypt, Iraq, the list goes on and on. Further the population of House of Saud is less than 30 million. It has depended on another British Creation, the House of Jinnah to provide it with security when USA has been unwilling to lend its hand, for example the siege of Mecca, the suppressing of uprising in Bahrain or more recently the training to the Syrian insurgents.
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Some Damn Foolish Thing: Thomas Laqueur

Book Review: The Sleepwalkers: How Europe Went to War in 1914 by Christopher Clark
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The Science of Hatred

On events in Srebrenica.
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Trouble in the Ukraine again.years ago,the so-called "orange" revolutions in former Warsaw pact states,engineered by the west to grab these countries into their sphere of influence,at first succeeded,but collapsed when the leadership was unable to deliver on the economic front.The Ukraine is split down the middle with a very large population who speak Russian and want closer ties with Russia.
The Ukrainian govts. attempt too join the EU failed at the last moment as its economists saw that joining the EU would see Ukraine fall into a huge debt trap.It relies upon oil and gas supplies from Russia which at times has been an issue on pricing.With the Ukranian govt. reversing its earlier policy and now wanting closer relations with Russia,the west is engineering anti-govt. protests that one saw during the "orange revolution".Thus far the protests have been allowed to take place,but the level of force to stop them is increasing by the day and the situ looks very ugly.It appears that a proxy war for control of Ukraine will break out between the two CW entities yet again.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/d ... revolution

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some German ramblings on India.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/wor ... 882-2.html

India Falls Behind: Corruption Plagues Rising Economy
Politicians in Delhi are certainly hatching ambitious plans. In 2011, they decided to increase the proportion of India's total economic performance made up by industrial manufacturing from 16 to 25 percent in 10 years. That would leave India still lagging behind China, where the same figure is 30 percent, but there's a bigger problem as well -- India's industrial sector is now growing even more slowly than it was when this grand plan was first implemented.

The plans the elite in the capital think up often don't end up getting implemented in the rest of the country. Many of India's 28 states are governed by local parties, and funds, once allocated, often don't reach those they're intended for. Carmaker Bhargava, too, blames day-to-day corruption for the way India is lagging.

Bhargava differentiates between two different types of rackets. There's the "high-level" type, for example when politicians demand a cut of a certain project. Then there's the "everyday" corruption, where people have to bribe officials to obtain services that they are actually entitled to by law. "I call that extortion," Bhargava says. The Maruti Suzuki chairman speaks for many company heads, who are in uniformly angry about the current state of affairs.

Hopes for Reform

And little is likely to change in the coming six months. After nine years in power, the coalition around the Congress party of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has completely lost steam.

No more daring reforms are expected from the 81-year-old prime minister before the election. In fact, the head of state with the blue turban symbolic of his Sikh faith is seen as a tragic figure of the country's faded economic miracle. Yet Singh, an economist who studied in England, was one of the politicians who first opened India up to a free market economy in the 1990s, after decades of hefty government intervention. At the time, he was finance minister. These days, though, the prime minister lacks the necessary authority within his own party. Indians find his stiff public appearances boring and many mock him as a "robot."

For many, India's new hope is Narendra Modi, 63, a man with a fastidiously cropped gray beard, who wears a different colored long shirt, known as a kurta, almost every day. He is the leading candidate for the opposition Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), and especially corporate leaders and young urbanites long for him to deliver them from the collective torpor.

Modi showed his chops as a reformer in the western state of Gujarat, where he is now in his third term as the state's chief minister and governs with as firm a hand as a Chinese party secretary. The son of a tea-seller, he is considered incorrupt. During his terms in office, the economy of this state of 60 million people has grown more than 50 percent faster than India's average.

For example, when protesting farmers in West Bengal prevented the Tata Group from building a factory there for manufacturing its small city car the Nano, business-friendly Modi was quick to bring the project to Gujarat. When it comes to social progress, on matters such as healthcare and education, however, on some issues Gujarat performs worse than other Indian states.

Still, Western investors are speculating that Modi as prime minister could have what it takes to renew India. The American investment bank Goldman Sachs recently revised its pessimistic forecast for the subcontinent and, with its eye on Modi, is once again recommending the purchase of Indian stocks. The title of the paper that presents this viewpoint makes its message clear: "Modi-fying our view."

Reaching Mars

It's a little early, though, to be siding with Modi so strongly. The Hindu economic reformer is hated by many voters of the country's Muslim minority. In 2002, during Modi's term as Gujarat's chief minister, anti-Muslim violence and mass killings broke out there. Over 1,000 people died on the authorities' watch. Modi refuses to this day to take political responsibility for those events.

Even if Modi does manage to take power in Delhi, like the unlucky incumbent Singh, Modi, too, would most likely need to haggle over compromises in a coalition. Even within his own BJP, representatives of powerful interest groups are resistant to further opening up India's economy, such as to foreign supermarkets.

But regardless of who ends up governing the country, India can expect to celebrate one success in the fall of 2014 -- the Mars mission. At least, that's assuming the probe reaches its destination by then.
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The EU have for the last many years of the UPA-2s term expressed shock and awe at the enormity of the corruption of the govt. of Dr.Singh.They have said that either he is totally incompetent,or totally dishonest.Those words in their media were written long before 2-G,CWG,Antrix,Railgate,Coalgate,AW,etc.,etc. One can't BS them,they know the truth. The kickbacks to state and central govts. for establishing a firang MNC operation in India is well known,why we are so low on the list of honest nations.The corruption in the country today is eating away its heart and organs of the state,like cancer and corrosive acid.The 2014 elections will be a watershed in our history.The Congress-led UPA have to be politically exterminated for all their misdeeds and venality,and like Humpty Dumpty,so too must shatter the mould of invincibility of the dy-nasty.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/d ... ine-russia

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Good piece on the "Froggies"the French, lining up to replace the Brits as Uncle Sam's pet poodle.

"Mademoiselle Democracie",oh what crimes and perversions have been committed in her name by so-called "civilised" societies of the west,merde!

http://www.realclearworld.com/2013/12/0 ... 53940.html
December 7, 2013
The Frogs of War
How France became the neocons’ favourite nation

Freddy Gray, Spectator
The Associated Press

What happened to the cheese-eating surrender monkeys? Just over a decade ago, the French, having refused to join the allied adventure in Iraq, were the butt of every hawkish joke. (Remember ‘Freedom fries’? Oh how we laughed.) Now, as America and Britain are beating a retreat from the world stage, France has turned into the West’s most reliable interventionist. Its President, the disaster-prone François Hollande, rattles his sabre at any despot or war criminal who dares to stand in the way of liberté, egalité, or fraternité.

American neoconservatives — the War Party in Washington — have turned Francophile as a result. ‘Vive la France!’ tweeted Senator John McCain, America’s most insatiable hawk, after the French tried (unsuccessfully in the end) to scupper the deal between the world’s leading powers and Tehran over Iran’s nuclear development programme. ‘Thank God for France,’ added Senator Lindsey Graham, another arch-neocon, ‘The French are becoming very good leaders in the Mid East.’ One contributor to the right-wing American magazine the National Review suggested that President Hollande should run for the White House in 2016.

It’s a bizarre volte-face. Where America’s interventionist lobby once commended President Bush for standing firm in the face of Gallic pusillanimity, now they berate Obama for leaving it to France to lead the free world. Obama is mocked for ‘leading from behind’. Britain is a diminishing player, humiliated by our failed exertions in Iraq and Afghanistan, and unwilling to step up. Germany remains reluctant to wage wars, for obvious reasons. So it has fallen to France to take the initiative in the fight for global democracy.


Look at many of the world’s trouble spots, and you’ll see French forces on the offensive. Only last week, France sent a further 1,000 peace-keeping troops to the Central African Republic. This is on top of an ongoing and increasingly difficult French military campaign in Mali; a small but significant intervention in 2011 in the Côte d’Ivoire, and, in the same year, France’s leading role in the removal of Muammar Gaddafi in Libya.

In Syria, too, France has been gung-ho for action. After David Cameron’s bid for intervention was rebuffed in Parliament, it looked for a few days as if France and the US would take on President Assad by themselves (with a little help from a few minor players). Secretary of State John Kerry made some rather gushing statements about France being his nation’s ‘oldest ally’ — the insinuation being that the relationship between America and Britain was not so special after all.

Hollande’s gusto in foreign affairs is partly about preserving France’s traditional sphere of influence in North Africa, even if he is keen not to be accused of being a neo-colonialist. He talks about forging ‘partnerships’ with democratic forces — not about civilising les sauvages — but the result is that French soldiers are still busy fighting on several fronts in their old empire. There is also the matter of righting old wrongs, and assuaging guilt. The French are haunted by their legacy in many parts of their empire, as well as by their country’s apparent complicity in the Rwandan genocide in 1994.

French politicians are insecure about their country’s waning significance, too. Like Tony Blair and David Cameron, France’s governing elite are fond of posturing on the international stage, because that makes them feel like world leaders — when deep down everybody knows that, despite Obama, Uncle Sam still calls the shots.

It is also clear why Hollande, so desperately unsuccessful at home, might go in search of monsters to destroy abroad. His approval rating hit a new low of just 15 per cent last month, and Standard & Poor’s recently downgraded France’s economy again from AA+ to AA. Perhaps a quick and decisive win in the Central African Republic will give the French President a little boost ahead of 2014.

But this new bellicosity is bigger than mere political concerns or any wish for France to be the ‘gendarme d’Afrique’. Under President Sarkozy and now under Hollande, the French have moved away from the hard-headed realism of De Gaulle, Mitterrand and Chirac towards a more aggressively liberal outlook. Sarkozy reportedly suggested that, had he been president in 2003, he would have supported the invasion of Iraq, and his long-serving foreign minister took a consistently hawkish line against the mullahs in Iran. Hollande’s government might have been expected to swing back towards the peaceniks, but in fact it has taken Sarkozian internationalism to new extremes. The French ambassador to Iraq recently promised that his country would help prop up the fledgling democracy in Baghdad by providing arms and training to local security forces. Hollande’s unwillingness to compromise with Tehran has made him popular in Israel, if not in the banlieues of Paris. When Hollande visited Jerusalem last month, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu laid the praise on thick. ‘Vive la France! Vive l’Israel! Vive l’amitié entre la France et Israel!’ he said. ‘The soul of France is equality,’ he said.

Ah, l’egalité — that all-important word. Perhaps Hollande’s hawkishness is just the latest development in la mission civilisatrice. Ever since the founding of the first Republic, the French, and particularly the French left, have felt it their duty to spread progressive values across the world. They have, if you like, been neoconservatives avant la lettre.

Dominique de Villepin, the former prime minister, complained recently that his country had contracted ‘le virus néoconservateur’. ‘La guerre ce n’est pas la France,’ he said, somewhat grandly. He should have acknowledged that the urge to hasten global democratic revolution, by force when necessary, was already in France’s DNA.

This article first appeared in the print edition of The Spectator magazine, dated 7 December 2013
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French, Russian and Indian beeline (wonder why China is still apparently in the docks - is probably far ahead methinks ) to the ME is to get a plum stake in the pie being baked by the sunni kingdoms there as part of their splurge to balance the Massa tilt towards eyeran as it pursues its long term plan for eyeran (and the larger middle east as a whole).

Hope there will be least amount of Islamist sh*t in our portion. :x
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http://www.realclearworld.com/articles/ ... vival.html

Japan's Morally Troubled Revival

Japanese military power is ascendant. Japan has roughly four times as many major warships as the British Royal Navy and, despite being an island nation that emphasizes sea and air power, more tanks than Germany. Japan also boasts niche capacities in special operations forces and diesel-electric submarines and is developing new amphibious capabilities with the help of the U.S. Marines. The Japanese Constitution forbids keeping a military except for self-defense. But that constitution may change. And even if it doesn't, don't believe the language in it, for military planners in Tokyo have been working around such language for decades already.

he's really amusing, with nonsensical adjectives like "morally troubling revival", which is more comical than ominous, which is surely what he intends it to be.

Kaplan is wondering in equal parts, whether allowing Japan to re-emerge to tackle PRC is a good thing, and whether PRC should be taught a lesson in its own dime.

seems conflicted, and the result is an article which is meandering about "medieval conflicts".

he keeps beating around the bush.

come on, Mr. Kaplan, get to the point: the West's dog, PRC, is bearing its teeth on the protected spheres of the West itself.
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(Not sure where to place it, but admins please feel free to move it to the most appropriate thread.)


Some recent high funda (/theoretical exercise) projects on fighting terrorism:
http://www.nps.edu/Academics/Schools/GS ... jects.html
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Flawed 60 Minutes coverage on NSA (may be NSA-style psy-op)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/d ... -cbs-facts
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A lot of bankers & bullsh&tters who make their living off defrauding the productive economy are setting up NSA type organizations to prevent people from speaking freely online.

They are trying to figure out ways to silence & prevent people from exposing their theft by removing anonymity online and keeping tabs.
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Norway,the US's chief "pimp" in global "peacemaking" stands exposed as spying on Russia for the US. Sweden is a close competitor for the title of chief pimp too!

http://rt.com/news/nsa-norway-spying-russia-374/
Norwegian intelligence cooperated extensively with the US National Security Agency (NSA) to spy on Russian politicians, the country’s energy sector and other ‘civilian targets’ in the country.

A top secret document obtained by the tabloid Dagbladet contained lists demonstrating how the Norwegian Intelligence Service (NIS) had cooperated with the NSA and vice versa to spy on Russia, noting several instances in which the collaboration resulted in “success stories.”

One portion of the memo titled "what the partner provides to NSA" includes several itemized points. The first point is entitled "Access to Russian targets in the Kola Peninsula," not far from Russia’s border with Norway and Finland.

Although no specific targets are mentioned on the peninsula, which lies almost completely north of the Arctic Circle, it contains the highest concentration of nuclear weapons, reactors and facilities in Russia.The following point mentions mutual civilian targets, particularly those relating to Russian "energy policy."

Under the heading "success stories," the NSA says it is working in partnership with the NIS "to expand and deepen the intelligence exchange, focusing on report sharing and target development on Russian political, natural resources and energy issues," the daily reports. The document also mentions that Russian politicians have been the targets of intelligence gathering operations, although no specific names are mentioned.

Below the ice and cold waters of the Arctic Ocean are hidden vast natural reserves, including approximately 20 percent of oil reserves worldwide and around 30 percent of the planet’s natural gas. There are also believed to be deposits of platinum, gold and tin.

The Arctic’s oil reserves are estimated at 90 million tons, or 13 percent of the world’s supply, with natural gas reserves standing at 1.67 trillion cubic meters, or 30 percent of the world reserves, and liquefied natural gas weighing in at 44 billion barrels, or 20 percent of potential reserves.

These precious natural resources are eagerly sought by five nations bordering the Arctic: Canada, Denmark, Norway, Russia and the US.

Last week, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced that new military units and infrastructure would be build in the Arctic to protect Russia's "security and national interests."

The document, classified "Top Secret," is dated April 17, 2003, and is signed by a leading official at the NSA’s Norway Desk. It was apparently written shortly after an annual planning conference between the two intelligence agencies, which concluded March 7. The story was written in collaboration with former Guardian journalist Glen Greenwald, who was instrumental in releasing documents from NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden.

The Norwegian government confirmed the authenticity of the document, but stressed the information presented within was a reflection of the "American point of view."

Last week, it was revealed that Norway’s Scandinavian neighbor Sweden was also collaborating with US intelligence to spy on Russian leaders and engage in industrial espionage against business targets such as Russia’s energy companies.
http://rt.com/news/sweden-industrial-es ... ussia-894/

Sweden engaged in industrial espionage against Russia - report
Published time: December 08, 2013 03:33
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^^ what is new half of European nations spy for US and all the Scandinavian nations does it. :((
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Prepare for war in East China Sea

Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/east ... 31567.html
On December 5, a Chinese naval vessel tried to force a U.S. warship to stop in international waters in the latest instance of the growing Chinese tendency to flex their muscles. This incident comes hard on the heels of the already roiled situation in the East China Sea region where Beijing had declared a Air Defence Identification Zone (ADIZ) on November 23, which included the Japanese-controlled, but disputed Senkaku islands, called Diayou, by the Chinese. Some alarming analysis suggests that the Chinese may not be above seeking a limited conflict in the region.

Incident

According to US officials, the guided missile cruiser USS Cowpens, was confronted by Chinese warships in the South China Sea near Beijing's new aircraft carrier Liaoning. What appears to have happened is that the US ship had been deputed to tail the Liaoning, which had been carrying out maneuvers in the East China Sea as part of Beijing's effort to brow beat Japan over the Senkaku/Diayou islands.

A Chinese navy vessel hailed the Cowpens and ordered it to stop. The ship refused and continued on its course because it was in international waters. Thereupon a Chinese tank-landing ship came directly on the path of Cowpens and stopped, forcing the American vessel to sharply change course.

The incident took place about 100 nautical miles from the Chinese coast. China's Exclusive Economic Zone, which has been defined under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Seas (UNCLOS) goes out 200 nautical miles into the sea. The US has not ratified UNCLOS, which China, Japan, India and most of the world have, but it says that it generally observes its rules. As part of these it insists on the unfettered movement of not just its merchant marine, but warships, in the EEZ. However, China has strongly opposed this interpretation noting that naval vessels' military aircraft by definition do not undertake "innocent passage." The Chinese have bridled at US intelligence and surveillance ships that keep track of Chinese maritime activity. US intelligence gathering ships like the USNS Impeccable and Victorious have faced Chinese harassment regularly over the past few years.

In this instance, there are some who believe that the Chinese may have deliberately staged the incident as part of a larger strategy against Japan and the US. Two days after the Chinese announced their new ADIZ, the US had sent two unarmed B-52 bombers to fly through the zone. However, it has advised its civilian aircraft to observe the ADIZ and give prior notification of any flights they plan through the ADIZ.

Strategy

The Japanese have declared that they will not recognise the ADIZ and for their part, the Chinese have in recent days sent in their Su-30 and J-11 fighters, along with their KJ-2000 AWACS aircraft to show that they intend to monitor the airspace they have declared as part of their ADIZ.

In 1981, when Deng Xiaoping began China's opening to the world, he also enjoined the Chinese to follow what is called the 24 character strategy in its foreign and security policies: "Observe calmly; secure our position; cope with affairs calmly; hide our capabilities and bide our time; be good at maintaining a low profile; and never claim leadership."

Conversations with Chinese think tank officials reveal a certain candidness about Beijing's changed global posture which, of course, has implications for India. They say that the era of the 24 character strategy are over. Indeed, they acknowledge that, as of 2012, they have become more assertive.

Interests

However, observers say that the shift began at least five years before that in 2008 when the Chinese government ordered its marine service to begin patrolling the maritime areas claimed by China. In 2009, it asserted its expansive South China Sea claims when it submitted a map to the UN along with the U-shaped Nine Dash line that comes down to the coast of Brunei. In 2011, a Chinese ship cut the cable of a seismic survey ship. In 2012, it created a new administrative zone around the city of Sansha to have jurisdiction over the Spratly and Paracel islands. This was also the year when the Chinese issued a new passport with the map including the ridiculous Nine Dash claim.

The Chinese say that their interests in the East China sea are what bother them the most because of their proximity to the Chinese heartland. South China Sea, they insist is not a problem area of the same dimension. Beijing's unambiguous goal is to isolate Japan, divide the ASEAN and befuddle the United States. The tough stance on the Senkaku/Diayou are part of this, and the recent tour of the ASEAN by Xi Jinping and Li Keqiang showed the extent to which the Chinese are willing to go to befriend the region, minus the Philippines. Even that old and formidable adversary Vietnam is being wooed by Beijing.

As for the United States, its stand on supporting the regional nations is less than clear. It insists that it is neutral when it comes to the maritime disputes, but maintains that it will stand by its treaty allies like Japan and the Philippines in the event of a conflict. The developments in East China Sea have important implications for India because we, too, have a major border dispute with China and we have also seen a shift in Beijing's border management policy since 2008. China has been quick to say that its ADIZ only has implications for its maritime borders, but who is to say that such a maneuver could not be attempted against us?

Actually, what China is doing in the East China Sea is what it did in the Himalayas in 1962: Create and, indeed, push "facts on the ground" which compel the other side to back off, or undertake a confrontation which could lead to war. India handled things badly then; hopefully the Japanese and the Americans will be more deft.

The writer is a Contributing Editor, Mail Today and a Distinguished Fellow, ORF

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Re: The indecent interest being shown by Massa in BD's upcoming general election on the side of Khaleda Zia's Islamist BNP (currently in opposition)

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I have a strong feeling that Obama's "Pivot to Asia" is not just about confronting China... it is at least as much about containing Indian expansion towards the east. Remember that Def Secy Leon Pannetta at least once publicly described India as being among the US' "enemies".

The Pivot, then, isn't about increasing US military influence off China's Pacific coast. Between Japan, Taiwan and Australia the US has plenty of muscle there already-- not to mention Guam and bases further in the rear.

The Pivot is about establishing a new axis of US influence that spears both Indian and Chinese areas of interest... and it runs through Myanmar and Bangladesh. This will be a valuable staging area for US adventures in our common backyard, and one that is relatively more stable and reliable than Pakistan (the US' regional ally of choice for the past 60 years.) The GWB government initially hoped to co-opt India itself into the Pivot as a pliant proxy state, but sometime during the refusal of India to sign the Nuke Liability Bill, or our dismissal of the various EULAs and CISMOAs that were being thrust at us by Washington, that delusion quickly faded.

Dan Mozena (as a servant of the Kerry State Dept) is plainly on a mission to establish this Pivot in Bangladesh. As in Pakistan, the US thinks it can accomplish this by allying with a hive of rabid Jama'ati Islamists (and Islamist elements of the armed forces) under Khaleda Zia's burqa of democracy. The consequences for India of the US' cultivation of EXACTLY these types in Pakistan is plain for us to see. We would be stupid to allow it to happen on our eastern flank as well.

This is one front on which it is Indian and Chinese interests, rather than Indian and US interests, that show greater potential for convergence.

If we look at old maps of the Japanese Empire circa 1940... those geographical areas correspond roughly to the "Pivot" of countries where the US would like to retain primacy of influence, in order to effectively strap down both India and China, which are seen as its potential rivals in the new century.
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 1#p1561451
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Philip That Manoj Joshi article is psy-ops from maccaca journo.

What goes India's father if US and China go to war in east Asia. In 1962 they did zilch.
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Exclusive: Secret contract tied NSA and security industry pioneer
Documents leaked by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden show that the NSA created and promulgated a flawed formula for generating random numbers to create a "back door" in encryption products, the New York Times reported in September. Reuters later reported that RSA became the most important distributor of that formula by rolling it into a software tool called Bsafe that is used to enhance security in personal computers and many other products.
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From the second link posted above ^^
Lelyveld also gets into the madness behind apartheid, especially the Biblical justification that apartheid’s deeply Christian masters sought to find in what they were doing. They would look up the Old Testament and find that – as they saw it – there were actually separate heavens for black people and white people. So if there were separate heavens, according to a particular reading of the Old Testament, therefore it made perfect sense, indeed it was morally incumbent upon them, to have separateness on earth too. So in Move Your Shadow you get both the sense of the macro-madness of apartheid with a deeply close-up view of what it was like to live as a black person under apartheid. I think probably nothing like it has been written before or since.
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One day in the life of Mikhail Khodorkovsky

He is Russia’s most famous prisoner, the former oligarch who built Yukos oil and was seen at Davos and the White House – until he dared to cross Vladimir Putin.
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all great friends of the West, freedom and democracy (as long as they could continue to loot russia's vast natural resources). boris yeltsin was also a great friend of freedom and democracy.
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