Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

[Karan M]

am actually fed up of this pappi jhappi as if one section of ppl and partition reflects whole of india and we are one ppl and all that sh!te.
i have nothing in common with tsp. 99% of ppl i know, places i have lived in across india dont have majority in common with tsp. why should we all have some luvv for these retards. they and the pappi jhappi gang can go to heck. and if the pj gang likes tsp so much, let them go live there.

[ramana]

KaranM, Go thru the Mumbai attack thread and the archieved ones to see if David headley made use of the Google maps to brief the attackers. I know he used GPS device to get the coordinates down. If above can be found then it will knock the asha out of this tamasha.

[ramana]

Found refs in wiki!!!:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Mumbai_attacks

....
The gunman who survived said that the attackers had used Google Earth to familiarise themselves with the locations of buildings used in the attacks.[132]


132.Rahul Bedi (9 December 2008). "Mumbai attacks: Indian suit against Google Earth over image use by terrorists". The Daily Telegraph (London). Archived from the original on 11 February 2009. Retrieved 20 February 2009.

Some one tweet this about google

[bkumar]

partha ji,

Available for free from the usual shady sources

At that price, it's certainly worth it

Kindly mention the shady sources ... bipinDOTkumarDOT2007ATgmail.

[Prem]

^^ Beena Sarwar: "If it doesn’t move you, you’ve got a heart of stone."
I am proud to have a stone heart. :twisted:Being a kafir Hindu, I already have a small heart too, of which also I am proud.

This is the same lady who hang up on Rajiv Malhotra when he discussed "tolerance " part of Being Different with her. Beside this, the whole ad is against the wisdom of Quaid Mohamamd Ali Jinnha and worship of Gaandfather Muhamamd Bin Qasim.

[Prem]

Shia-Sunni Bhai Bhai!
The missing third-photo had shalwar-check to make sure that the miscreants were not Hindus.

Correction : Shia Sunni Bye Bye !!

[Prem]

here is the original film which google stole from

Chor Chori se Jayye, Heraferi se Na Jayye. The ide was stolen from 90s series of commercials about Coffee and love story. How many here remember the commercials for which people waited eagerly, more then the Holywood Movies.
http://www.betsyda.com/ash/items/ahgoldblend.html
Watch all of them here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meJDrMW6mns

Television commercials for Nestle instant coffees, starring Anthony Head and Sharon Maughan. In the U.K., the ads were for Gold Blend and ran for twelve episodes, from 1987 to 1993. In the U.S., they advertised Taster's Choice (thirteen episodes), and ran from 1990 to 1997. Video and Book: The first eleven Gold Blend episodes were released as a free promotional video, Love Over Gold in 1993. A novelization by the same title, written by mystery writer Susan Moody under the pseudonym Susannah James, reached the Sunday Times (London) paperback fiction best-seller list that year. (About the book: Press Association News, "Love at last for coffee's golden couple." February 8, 1993, by Teilo Colley. (text)). A "branded CD of love songs" also became a best-seller. The characters: What were the character's names? Good question. In the novel, their names are Matthew Prescott and Alexandra Maitland. In the American ads, his name is Michael. The press clippings refer to them as Tony and Sharon. In the novel and the British ads, he's a modern art dealer. In the novel, she's a features editor at a "glossy London monthly magazine."

[Vikas]

We have to wait for one more generation till the memories of "oh my old friend left behind in La-whore" are erased and La-whore becomes part of enemy territory. Till then we will have to live with all this humbug of pappi-jhappi politics.

On second thought, I think this love and fondness is for the childhood memories and that gets reflected into affection towards Pakis. Fortunately current generation has no love for Pakis anymore. Sadly for last 10 years, we have a PM who is more into Pappi-Jhappi than Kuldip nayyar "The original WKK".

[Agnimitra]

We have to wait for one more generation till the memories of "oh my old friend left behind in La-whore" are erased and La-whore becomes part of enemy territory.

Correction - our own holy territory under enemy occupation.

[Karan M]

its not tied to ppl from that generation alone. there is a huge group of indian peaceniks, disproportionately represented amongst partition affected communities (e.g. elite punjus) whom TSP tries to influence via cultural themes by appealing to pre partition era stuff, plus those tied into leftist dogma (cutting across all groups - can include jnu ding dongs, folks from the two communist states where CPI/CPM have done their best to influence folks, liberal arts groups from elite schools in media etc). overall, this mixed up group is very vocal and clued into all the creative professions - including media and hence wield a disproportionate influence on airwaves etc.

the only way to address this issue wherein these folks constantly do silly things and harm indian security, is to a) openly discuss the realities of past islamic rule in india and disseminate it across all groups - will stiffen the spine of the rest and open up the eyes of some of the above WKK crowd b) make sure critical decision making is ringfenced from these WKK types. they are useful idiots for spreading the soft touch and what not, but cannot be allowed to negatively influence state policy and make it beholden to paki interests. in past 8 years reverse is what has been happening.

net, its not some 80 year old generation types which are driving this pappi jhappi alone. there are enough modern day neo-WKKs who carry a torch for modern day mughals, spout shairo shayari, think mughals were "sufis" and spout = = same same BS. they are fools and will doom the rest of india to fulfill their delusions. main thing is to keep this delusional lot away from national policy

[sanjaykumar]

Just for perspective, I have never heard Panjabi Hindus pine for their Muslim brethren. A scan of the you tube comments on that saccharine ad reveals many Pakistanis, but few Indians opining that reunification will lead to a superpower.

Maybe India's million graduates, aerospace, nuclear, software, pharmaceutical technologies are in need of complementary Pakistani contributions and only then can it become a shuper pover. Of course we know what Pakis will bring to Greater India-murder and mayhem, not to put too fine a point on it. A population reeking of failure, polluting all that India has managed (albeit imperfectly) to achieve in 65 years.

Panjabis know this better than most Indians.


Let Pakistan reunite with East Pakistan for 65 years and then we`ll see.

[Prem]

Pakistan's New Generation of Terrorists
Pakistani Khandani Terrroist: Born out of Terrorists, They remain Terrorists

The numerous terrorist groups operating in Pakistan have tended to fall into one of the five categories laid out by Ashley J. Tellis, a senior associate at Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, in a January 2008 Congressional testimony:Sectarian: Religiously motivated groups such as the Sunni Sipah-e-Sahaba and Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and the Shia Tehrik-e-Jafria that are engaged in violence within PakistanAnti-Indian: Groups focused on the Kashmir dispute that operate with the alleged support of the Pakistani military and the intelligence agency Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), such as Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Muhammad, and Harakat ul-MujahadeenAfghan Taliban: The original Taliban movement and especially its Kandahari leadership centered around Mullah Mohammad Omar, believed to be based in QuettaAl-Qaeda and its affiliates: The global jihadist organization founded by Osama bin Laden and led by Ayman al-Zawahiri;Supporters of the Afghan Taliban who sought refuge in Pakistan's tribal areas morphed into a distinct entity following the Pakistani army's initial incursion into the semiautonomous region in 2002. In December 2007, about thirteen disparate militant groups coalesced under the umbrella of Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), also known as the Pakistani Taliban, led by Baitullah Mehsud of South Waziristan. Pakistani authorities accused him of orchestrating the assassination of former prime minister Benazir Bhutto in December 2007. Short-lived ceasefires signed with Islamabad in 2008 and 2009 provided opportunities for the Pakistani Taliban to regroup and make territorial gains, analysts say.
Hakimullah declared war against the state, saying in October 2013: "Pakistan's system is un-Islamic, and we want it replaced with an Islamic system. This demand and this desire will continue even after the American withdrawal [from Afghanistan]." Stephen Tankel, scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, notes that if talks had been allowed to fail, Pakistani public opinion would have turned more decisively against the Taliban rather than the United States, whom many blame for the insurgency's resilience.A shura council chose hard-liner Mullah Fazlullah as Hakimullah's successor shortly after his death. Fazlullah, who gained infamy for ordering the assassination attempt on Pakistani schoolgirl and activist Malala Yousafzai, rejects talks with the government. Analysts question whether Fazlullah can maintain TTP cohesion as the first emir from outside the Mehsud tribe.The predominantly Pashtun group draws membership from all of FATA's seven agencies s well as several settled districts of Khyber Pakhtunkhawa in the northwest. The TTP has declared jihad against the Pakistani state, seeks to control territory, enforces sharia, and fights NATO forces in Afghanistan. "We will target security forces, government installations, political leaders, and police," Asmatullah Shaheen, head of the shura council that selected Mullah Fazlullah, told Reuters, adding, "We will not target civilians, bazaars, or public places. People do not need to be afraid."
It's difficult to assess the size of the Pakistani Taliban. "There are not reliable estimates of how large the TTP is, largely due to challenges associated with even defining the borders of the group and the loose-knit nature of how it is organized along either subtribal or subregional lines," CTC's Rassler says.The Punjabi Taliban, a loose conglomeration of militant groups of Punjabi origin, gained prominence after major 2008 and 2009 attacks in the cities of Lahore, Islamabad, and Rawalpindi. The network has both sectarian and Kashmir-oriented aims. It has chafed at the Pakistani Taliban's central leadership, Jane's Intelligence Review reported in late August 2013, but is uniquely capable of "mount[ing] complex operations in urban environments," particularly in Punjab, Pakistan's most populous and politically significant province.T]Besides providing militant groups in Pakistan with technical expertise and capabilities, al-Qaeda also promotes cooperation among them. CTC's Rassler wrote in 2009 that al-Qaeda "assumed a role as mediator and coalition builder among various Pakistani militant group factions by promoting the unification of entities that have opposed one another or had conflicting ideas about whether to target the Pakistani state."[/b]

The Taliban, meanwhile, has become ever more entrenched in Pakistan, building a nationwide network by finding common cause with terrorist groups that target the Shia and the Pakistani state while establishing roots—and a lucrative criminal enterprise—in Karachi. . Such attacks heralded a new period in army and ISI relations with many of these militant groups, analysts say.
The CIA has conducted an extensive targeted killing campaign to supplement Pakistani counterterrorism efforts, particularly in the rugged, remote terrain of North and South Waziristan. U.S. drones are currently launched from Afghan soil, but it's unclear whether this arrangement will continue after the scheduled U.S. withdrawal in 2014. If the targeted killing program is called off, veteran intelligence analyst Bruce Riedel argues, "Al-Qaeda will regenerate rapidly in Pakistan. Its allies like the Taliban and Lashkar-e-Taiba will help it to rebuild. The ISI will either turn a blind eye or, worse, a helping hand." The program's detractors have questioned the United States' ability to distinguish between militants and civilians, and argue that strikes may contribute to radicalization in the frontier provinces.Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, who began an unprecedented third term in June 2013, has railed against U.S. drone strikes as an affront to Pakistani sovereignty while advocating for talks with the TTP. Yet, the International Crisis Group notes, "Ample evidence exists of tacit Pakistani consent and active cooperation with the drone program." Pakistan's leadership seeks greater say over targeting, the ICG says, "often to punish enemies, but sometimes, allegedly, to protect militants" with whom the security services have cooperative relations—including elements of the Haqqani Network and Taliban.

[Dipanker]

Aid to the terrorists to counter terror? Why not call it by a more appropriate name, Terror jizya, that is what it is:

UK to give counterterror aid to Pakistan, Somalia

[Gus]

Vikas - it won't end with old foggies passing away. Then it will be these type of people who go "I went to Pakistan and they are just like us. Why can't we be friends" lets do pappi jhappi for friendship bla bla.

[Karan M]

sanjaykumar ji, i was referring to a subset of punjus in india, could be hindus, could be sikhs, could be agnostics/modern day liberals etc. they get taken in by all the pappi jhappi of the pakis. though it seems they are a minority of the larger group who as you say are not so silly, these aforesaid folks tend to be pretty vocal and hence get disproportionate airtime.

[nachiket]

Vikas - it won't end with old foggies passing away. Then it will be these type of people who go "I went to Pakistan and they are just like us. Why can't we be friends" lets do pappi jhappi for friendship bla bla.

Have to agree. They don't even need to go to Pakistan (the country, not the toilet). There are enough deluded people amongst my friends who believe that Pakistanis are our long lost brothers who are victims of terrorism too, etc. etc. The usual bleeding heart liberal horse manure. Most of them to my knowledge, don't even know any Pakistanis and yet are absolutely certain that if it wasn't for the Pakistani Army and ISI, whom the innocent common Abduls have no control over, we'd all be friends. They are completely clueless about the current state of Pakistan and how far the jihadi virus has spread there.

You'll find plenty of these geniuses on paki forums.

[johneeG]

Even in the old generation, there would be 2 groups: realists and WKKs. So, I don't think this problem has anything to do with generation. The problem is that only the WKKs get to wield the power, while the realists are forced to keep quiet. Eventually, when they see that WKKs is the 'mainstream' and the others are seen as hate-filled nuts, people act accordingly. The same continues in later generations as well. The problem is with system. Example: Milkha Singh says that he was not very fond of bakis, but chacha told him not to be 'hate-filled'. Now, if the desh's pradhani says don't 'hate' the bakis and love 'em. What do you expect?

Today, the same thing continues. The kongis, 'experts' and dynasty keeps repeatedly saying that 'neighbours cannot be changed'(btw, this quote was invented by bajpayee who apparently didn't see that earlier Tibet was the neighbour, now its cheen, so neighbours can be changed). What can one expect if the establishment itself sings the tune of aman ki asha? Bakis still survive primarily because dhesh does not act like an enemy. Once dhesh actually acts as if bakis are the enemies and takes tit for tat actions, everything will fall into place. Thats the reason, the entire brigage(from bakis to kongis to WKKs to jihadhis) are against Modi who is expected to do what needs to be done.

Vikas - it won't end with old foggies passing away. Then it will be these type of people who go "I went to Pakistan and they are just like us. Why can't we be friends" lets do pappi jhappi for friendship bla bla.

Have to agree. They don't even need to go to Pakistan (the country, not the toilet). There are enough deluded people amongst my friends who believe that Pakistanis are our long lost brothers who are victims of terrorism too, etc. etc. The usual bleeding heart liberal horse manure. Most of them to my knowledge, don't even know any Pakistanis and yet are absolutely certain that if it wasn't for the Pakistani Army and ISI, whom the innocent common Abduls have no control over, we'd all be friends. They are completely clueless about the current state of Pakistan and how far the jihadi virus has spread there.

You'll find plenty of these geniuses on paki forums.

The general solution to this kind of attitude is more contact with the bakis. When people actually meet bakis all such attitudes quicky evaporate. One may still remain a WKK for other reasons(like hate for Hindhus), but no one will have any illusions about the bakis and their characters.

Another solution is to read and understand the general jihadhi history(specially of Indian sub-continent) and the loot, genocide and sadism that was perpetrated then. And to read and understand what kind of ideology leads to such things. That opens people's eyes and is a more long term solution.

[anupmisra]

Bakistan jinda-bad!

[Gus]

The problem is - some people cannot face up to reality and correct their views based on new evidence. Instead they keep the conclusion the same and invent new reasons or excuses for paki behavior.

[SSridhar]

I strongly suspect that Pakistan was involved in the suicide bombing of the Iranian embassy in Beirut yesterday.

From The Hindu report,

A Lebanese-based al-Qaeda-linked group known as the Abdullah Azzam Brigades claimed responsibility for the double suicide attack.

Sheikh Sirajeddine Zuraiqat, the religious guide of the Brigades, said in a Twitter post that the group had carried out the strike.

“It was a double martyrdom operation by two of the Sunni heroes of Lebanon,” he wrote.

Now, Abdullah Azzam was the mentor of Osama bin Laden and was active in Af-Pak, especially Peshawar until he was eliminated in c. 1989 (attributed variously to USSR, Israel and OBL himself). Hafeez Saeed and Azzam started Maktab al Khidmat (Office of Service) which, after Azzam's assassination, became Jamaat-ud-Dawah. Though Abdullah Azzam was a teacher in King Abdul Aziz University in Jeddah before he moved to Pakistan, the bulk of Azzam's radical work was in Pakistan.

Abdullah Azzam Brigade was setup in Orakzai a few years back and it was accredited as part of TTP. It has been involved in several terrorist acts including the killing of 22 Khasadar police officers in Torkham in August 2009.

With Pakistan being involved increasingly in Syria at the behest of Saudi Arabia, even to the extent of spreading polio terror apart from its usual brand of terror, the Abdullah Azzam Brigade is a giveaway of its involvement in Beirut as well, IMO.

[SSridhar]

Rawalpindi Remains on High Alert Days After Sectarian Clashes - Meena Menon, The Hindu

[SSridhar]

From the DT Editorial today on Spreading Sectraian Violence,

What happened in Rawalpindi has sent almost all of the country into the downward spiral that is sectarian strife, an issue so volatile that once it is provoked, it only gets worse. It seems that Sunnis are now retaliating after the deaths in Rawalpindi, and the Shia minority is not taking things lying down anymore. History has proved that the Shias have had to deal with much brutality in Pakistan, particularly of late. Wherever there has been a concentration of the Shia population in the country, e.g. the Shia Hazara community in Quetta, it has been targeted so extensively that it would not be far-fetched to call the attacks against them a slow but sure genocide. Shias have usually been on the receiving end of fundamentalist ire, faring only slightly better than the officially declared ‘non-Muslim’ Ahmedi sect. Comprising 20 percent of the population, the Shias have felt their anger boiling and frustration mounting at the injustices against them and the state’s inability to do anything to protect them. While the violence that was unleashed in Rawalpindi cannot be condoned, it is understandable why the Shia mourners reacted the way they did, after decades of murder and abuse.

[Singha]

a shia dean at a university was shot dead outside his house by motorcyle borne people yesterday. they left a note saying lashkar-e-jhangvi did it for rawalpindi revenge.

btw for 20% of pop, do the shias have a higher rep in teaching, medicine, law and other well educated jobs?

[SSridhar]

btw for 20% of pop, do the shias have a higher rep in teaching, medicine, law and other well educated jobs?

I should expect so because the percentage of higher qualification among the shias is significantly larger. Anyway, there is no census in TSP cuckooland for data analysis.

[Anujan]

http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=224035

A three-member delegation of Ulema called on Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif here on Sunday and discussed the post-Ashura incident situation.

The delegation comprising Maulana Hanif Jalandhri, Ahle Sunnat wal Jamaat (ASWJ) chief Maulana Mohammad Ahmed Ludhianvi and Abul Khair Azad demanded of the government to compensate the victim families and traders of the Madina Market.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/634216/post ... e-ordered/

a committee has been constituted to assess the financial loss of the damaged market and mosque, which it would include in the report it publishes in seven days. Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif has allocated funds for the reconstruction of the shops and mosque.

[rajanb]

Understandably, there us a lot of angst about Google's "reunion".

Since most of this is being discussed on this thread (not on BENIS), I am posting the below to lighten the mood.

DISCLAIMER: I am totally APOLITICAL. And the characters depicted herein are an act of fate!

Have a laugh and lighten your mood. I felt better after reading this. Copyrights belong to those it belongs too.

http://www.theunrealtimes.com/2013/11/1 ... he-border/

[Baikul]

From the DT Editorial today on Spreading Sectraian Violence,

.............. Comprising 20 percent of the population, the Shias have felt their anger boiling and frustration mounting at the injustices against them and the state’s inability to do anything to protect them. While the violence that was unleashed in Rawalpindi cannot be condoned, it is understandable why the Shia mourners reacted the way they did, after decades of murder and abuse.

If that does not finally culminate in a brand new nation state among the Islamic warriors to our west, I do now know what will.

[Lalmohan]

are pakistani shia's mostly sindhis or are they widely dispersed amongst the ethnicities?

[SSridhar]

Oh, they are dispersed. But not diffused.

[Singha]

most reports of xyz shia being gunned down always speak of prof/doc/lawyer/officer not street level aam admi thats why I asked. shia docs esp have been heavily targeted in karachi perhaps because they are also community leaders and widely known - something to break morale of the community.

if Northern area (in POK) is heavily shia as reported, there must be a plenty of their brethen in the tribal agencies which are next door.

[anupmisra]

...But not diffused.

Sunny boys are working on the even "diffusion" part by thinning out the concentrated pockets of shias.

[Dilbu]

'Strong evidence in treason case against Musharraf'

There is strong evidence to support the charge of high treason against former military ruler Pervez Musharraf and his punishment could be either the death penalty or life imprisonment, the Pakistan government's top law officer said today.

Under Article 6 of the Constitution, which covers treason, the retired general could face death or life imprisonment, Attorney General Munir Malik said. An early verdict in the case against Musharraf is possible, he added.

He also did not rule out the possibility that Musharraf could be re-arrested during the proceedings. The Federal Investigation Agency would have the authority to carry out his arrest, he said.

[anupmisra]

most reports of xyz shia being gunned down always speak of prof/doc/lawyer/officer not street level aam admi thats why I asked. shia docs esp have been heavily targeted in karachi perhaps because they are also community leaders and widely known - something to break morale of the community.

if Northern area (in POK) is heavily shia as reported, there must be a plenty of their brethen in the tribal agencies which are next door.

Per my paki banker friend here, shias are both - white collar professionals and mango hussains, just like their sunny brethren (but overly represented in the "paki learned class"). Their professionals (especially the intelligentsia) are being targeted (a la Hindus in east bakistan) in drive by killings which will leave them short of leaders.

Also note: the paki newspapers are playing their hands as well by revealing the sect of the killed in an indirect way ("killed on his way to the imambargha" or his middle name "hussain").

However, unlike the east Bengalis (the east paki variety), shias are not going to wake up one day and demand a whole new country because logistically, that's a non-starter (read Sridhar's post above about "diffusion" and same language/script). My guess is that an unending Beirut-like situation is the logical end game - a series of urban wars interspersed with short periods of well earned rest. This may even force the shia professionals with resources to flee al bakistan for greener pastures (oops!) abroad. Some (with origins in UP/Bihar/MP) may seek a refugee status in India.

The army is the only wild card in this situation because their senior hierarchy is full of shias. Kiyani, for one. He has promoted his own.

Thinking out aloud: I wonder how the shias in India are viewing these turn of events. How come no shia in India has spoken up against this? Or, is that a political hot potato?

[Dilbu]

Not good for Pakistan to try former rulers: Husain Haqqani

WASHINGTON: It is not good for Pakistan to try its former rulers and this is not how modern nations evolve, a former Pakistan Ambassador to the US has said.

"I think it is not good for Pakistan to be the country that always puts its former leaders on trial," Husain Haqqani, a former Pakistan Ambassador to the US told an audience here at a book launch ceremony.

"Look, we have a sad history. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto was put on trial and executed, Gen Zia ul Haq died in an air plane crash, but subsequent to that Benazir Bhutto was elected, moved from office, put on trial, then came back a few years later then again put on trial, forced into exile and now it (Musharraf) is happening," Haqqani said at the Hudson Institute, a think tank where he is a senior fellow.

Haqqani's remarks came a day after the Pakistan government asked the Supreme Court to launch aunch treason proceedings against former dictator Musharraf for imposing emergency in 2007, the first time the civilian administration has sought the criminal prosecution of a military ruler.

[vishvak]

In India, talking about this may lead to revealing all khota sikkas hiding under secularism pyramid of cards, which is used to put heathens and pagaans in place as unsaved savages. What's the need to reveal anything indefensible to people who are deemed not worth to be answerable.

[Dilbu]

Three bodies found across Karachi

KARACHI: Three shot dead bodies of men were found from separate parts of the city on Tuesday. Body of a young man was found from Ahmed Shah Bukhari road within the jurisdiction of Baghdadi police station.

As per the officials, the victim had been kidnapped before being shot. Police shifted the body to the hospital and later moved to morgue for identification. The motive behind his assassination could only be ascertained after identification.

In a similar case, another body of a young man was found near Afghan Camp within the vicinity of Gulshan-e-Maymar police station. Police said that deceased, identified as Mohammad Fahim, son of Saeed Ahmed, lived in the same area and had been kidnapped by unknown culprits, who later shot him multiple times before dumping his body. The body was handed over to his family after an autopsy. The motive behind the incident has not been ascertained yet, however, further investigations are underway.

Separately, a man body of a man was found from Korangi cost guard's intercept within the limits of Zaman Town police station. The victim, identified as Ahsan Raza, son of Khalid Sheikh, resident of Korangi locality, had left his house on Monday for some work. His body was taken to Jinnah Postgraduate Medical Centre for an autopsy and later handed over to his heirs. The motive behind the incident is still under investigation.

[SSridhar]

if Northern area (in POK) is heavily shia as reported, there must be a plenty of their brethen in the tribal agencies which are next door.

The Hazara Shi'a, for example

[CRamS]

Even in the old generation, there would be 2 groups: realists and WKKs. So, I don't think this problem has anything to do with generation. The problem is that only the WKKs get to wield the power, while the realists are forced to keep quiet.

johneeGJi, I wonder about this also, but your explanation I am afraid is a tad unconvincing. Reason being that it is vast majority of Indian people put people like MMS, the worst manifestation of the Hindu hating, corrupt, TSP pasand cowardice that has paralyzed Indian decision making. Its not some alien force from Mars that in the midst of the height of TSP perfidy that Indian airwaves were filled with obsession on non existent "Hindu terror". I mean the list goes on. The lack of a nationalist bone in dealing with India's enemies, especially TSP is much much deeper, the causes of which can be embarrassing.

Thats the reason, the entire brigage(from bakis to kongis to WKKs to jihadhis) are against Modi who is expected to do what needs to be done.

Once again, its not some alien power that is demonizing Modi, but of course they are taking advantage of the ambivalence and hatred a large majority of Indians have for him. Here is an example where we know what is in the works. I know its the responsibility of the Indian state to protect Modi, but those in power itself are conspiring against him, so BJP has to take extra protection till elections are over. No point crying over spilt milk once the plan is executed to completion.

[Baikul]

With more than proportional representation among the professional classes, set apart by name and sometimes ethnicity, clearly Shias are the Jews of Pakistan......

Has the Sunni Urdu press discovered the existence of the Protocols of The Elders Of Shia (LaBeouf)?

[anupmisra]

Zaid "Mahdi" Ham el Eid's goose is surely cooked. An update. Zaid Hamid wanted chaos in Pakistan army: Emaad Khalid. All new messiah's end up this way.

Zaid Hamid’s nefarious plans to assassinate Pakistani Army Chief General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani have been exposed by Hamid’s own former staff officer

The former staff officer and media coordinator of Zaid Hamid, Emaad Khalid said on Wednesday that Hamid used to send text messages, emails and policy papers to 1,000 army officers claiming that General Kayani had sold out and was working for the Americans

Zaid Hamid was instigating junior officers of the army to stage a coup

Hamid was a supporter and advisor of former military dictator Pervez Musharraf, a fact that Zaid Hamid acknowledged

Hamid had a hit list which included several key figures of Pakistan. “The hit list included General Kayani, Zardari, Chief Justice Chaudhry, Nawaz Sharif, Asma Jehangir, Tahir Ashrafi and several members of the media including Hamid Mir and Najam Sethi.

Zaid Hamid benefited from anarchy and chaos in Pakistan and was a supporter of sectarian violence in the country

Chairman of the Pakistan Ulema Council, Tahir Ashrafi called Zaid Hamid an enemy of Islam

Ghar ka Bhedi Lanka Dahaye. Let me guess. Zaid Mahdi Ham-Eid is not a Shi'a.