Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

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Lisa wrote:Who would have thunk it!

Corruption rife in the Pakistani community, says UK minister

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... ister.html
From the above Article :
Asked if he was referring to the Pakistani community, Mr Grieve said: “Yes, it’s mainly the Pakistani community, not the Indian community. I wouldn’t draw it down to one. I’d be wary of saying it’s just a Pakistani problem.” He added: “I happen to be very optimistic about the future of the UK. We have managed integration of minority communities better than most countries in Europe.”

Tory ministers have avoided singling out particular communities over political corruption. However, in 2010, Baroness Warsi claimed the Tories lost three seats at the general election as a result of voter fraud within the Asian community.
Moral of the Story : Pakistaning in Great Britain!
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11 Polio Workers Goatnapped in Pakistan

November 23, 2013
Officials in Pakistan say militants have kidnapped 11 teachers involved in a polio vaccination campaign for children.

Authorities say the workers were kidnapped Saturday in the Bara district of the Khyber tribal region along the border with Afghanistan.


Militants frequently attack polio vaccination workers in Pakistan, accusing them of being Western spies or part of a plot to sterilize Muslims.

The disease is highly infectious and can cause irreversible paralysis.

The Global Eradication Initiative says polio remains endemic in three countries - Afghanistan, Nigeria and Pakistan. The Initiative says until poliovirus transmission is interrupted in these countries, all countries remain at risk of importation of polio.
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This could belong in the Benis dhaga as well. Paki minister calls Taliban Khan a fox

Imthedim runs with the hares and hunts with the hounds: Info minister
Imran Khan should bar his PTI-led Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government from receiving funds from the United States before opposing drone attacks.
“Imran’s heart is with the Taliban but his sword is with the US.” Not sure I get this colorful cliché.
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Nawaz "badmaash" Shareif's latest taqiyas:

I want to resolve all outstanding issues with India
Sharif hoped that visa restrictions between Pakistan and India would be eliminated :shock:
“If India takes one step forward, we will take two.”
“We did not say one word against India.”

and, lastly but not the least,
Pakistan and India were neighbours and Islam teaches good relations with ones neighbours
There you have it folks. Right from the horse's mouth.
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Firing in Hafizabad kills three police officers including SHO
HAFIZABAD : Three police officers including SHO Pindi Bhattian were killed in an exchange of fire with fugitives in Hafizabad, Express News reported on Saturday.
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From the BBC:
Deadly blasts hit Pakistani city of Karachi
At least seven people are reported to have been killed in two bomb explosions in a busy area of Pakistan's southern city of Karachi.
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At least 18 people were injured in the predominantly Shia area of Ancholi, local media report.

The improvised explosive devices (IEDs) were placed on motorcycles parked near cafes and stalls, police said. No group has said it carried out the attack.
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Local police official Javed Odho told AFP news agency that the IEDS had gone off "with a big bang".

He said it was difficult to say immediately whether Shia were the target because Sunnis also lived in the vicinity of the blasts.
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Lilo wrote:
11 Polio Workers Goatnapped in Pakistan

November 23, 2013
Officials in Pakistan say militants have kidnapped 11 teachers involved in a polio vaccination campaign for children.

Authorities say the workers were kidnapped Saturday in the Bara district of the Khyber tribal region along the border with Afghanistan.


Militants frequently attack polio vaccination workers in Pakistan, accusing them of being Western spies or part of a plot to sterilize Muslims.

The disease is highly infectious and can cause irreversible paralysis.

The Global Eradication Initiative says polio remains endemic in three countries - Afghanistan, Nigeria and Pakistan. The Initiative says until poliovirus transmission is interrupted in these countries, all countries remain at risk of importation of polio.
alhamdulillah, its two birds with one stone.

a) Firstly, congratulations to them. They are continuing the non-U.N sponsored anti-polio workers elimination drive.
2) Secondly, These teacher are the root cause of un-islamic stuff in pakisatan.. They teach western education and promote jahiliyya in the minds of young paki kids

So, its a victory for pakisatan and a victory for izslam.

Personal note to lillo: While specifiying alhamdulillah i almost wrote alhamdu-lillo. Jeez could have been construed as a personal attack. :) #Justkidding
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Treason? What will they think of next?
Governments in Pakistan inevitably employ the oldest trick in the manual after a major administrative cock-up. They draw the public’s attention away from a major blunder by coming up with a bit of sensational news. In the old days when a gaffe had taken place, the public was told that Indian soldiers had committed unspeakable atrocities on Muslim women in Kashmir. People don’t buy that story any more.
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Another D'oh moment for Im the Dim. Pakistani drone protesters block NATO supplies
When Khan failed to persuade the Pakistani government to block NATO supplies earlier this month, he announced that he would hold a protest to do so himself.
The protest, which was led by Pakistani politician and cricket star Imran Khan, likely had more symbolic value than practical impact because there is normally little NATO supply traffic on the road on Saturdays. The blocked route in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province leads to one of two border crossings used to send supplies overland from Pakistan to neighboring Afghanistan.
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Apparently Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, the province his party rules gets substantial "budgetary support" (also known as handouts or bribes) . shouldn't any demonstration of H&D start with refusing it first?
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For Soviet Defeat in Afghanistan, US Helped Create a Nuclear Pakistan

Nothing that we are not aware of but there is more proof now from documents released,
In July 1987, a Pakistani, Arshad Pervez, was arrested by US authorities when he was trying to bribe a Customs official to get an export license to buy high strength maraging steel — mainly used for building centrifuges to enrich uranium — and large amounts of beryllium that could be used only for Islamabad's still covert nuclear weapons programme. Around the same time, a Chinese national and two US citizens were indicted for illegal exports of advanced computers and similar technology to Pakistan.

According to newly-declassified documents by the National Security Archive, the arrest led to a huge debate within the Reagan administration. Ken Adelman, the chief of Arms Control & Disarmament Agency (ACDA), according to the documents, wanted to come down hard on Pakistan. But the State Department hesitated, unwilling to jeopardize US-Pakistan relations, particularly as General Zia-ul-Haq was supporting the Afghan mujahideen. "We are particularly concerned about weakening the President's hand in discussions with the Soviets on Afghanistan, which [are] at a critical stage."

The documents show the indictment of Pervez and Inam ul-Haq, a key figure in the A Q Khan nuclear procurement network, were important because they provided vital links to Pakistan's nuke programme. The key element in the case was the illegal effort to acquire 350 tonnes of maraging steel that would be "used in a uranium enrichment plant to manufacture nuclear weapons," and beryllium, used specifically for the neutron initiator in a nuclear weapon, the export of which was controlled in the US government's Commodity Control List.

In its report, the National Security Archive says, "For the Reagan administration, aiding the anti-Soviet war in Afghanistan trumped nonproliferation policy interests. The high priority given to a close US-Pakistan relationship may have encouraged, as some journalists have alleged, State Department officials to warn the Pakistanis of the imminent arrest of their agents. Indeed, Haq, who was working closely with Pervez, evaded arrest by slipping out of the United States at the last minute." To ensure a Soviet defeat in Afghanistan, the US watched and indirectly helped to create a nuclear weapons state in Pakistan. Adelman is on record in the new documents, protesting "Zia will conclude once again that he need do nothing about his bomb program." The Americans spent many months trying to locate Haq, who, a later telegram stated, was being moved around between locations in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK).

Another ACDA memo concluded, "there is no plausible end-use for 25 tonnes of grade 350 maraging steel other than in the manufacture of centrifuges" for producing highly-enriched uranium and "for which Pakistan has no use except in nuclear explosives." Even the indulgent State Department balked at what was happening inside Pakistan. The undersecretary Michael Armacost even travelled to Pakistan to ask Zia to control his illegal nuclear programme. Armacost is quoted as saying that US government "information" indicated that "enrichment levels above 90[percent] have been achieved at Kahuta," the site of a secret gas centrifuge facility. Pakistan was openly violating a commitment to keep to a 5% ceiling, by producing weapons-grade material. {But, the 5% ceiling committment itself was a fraud perpetrated by the US government to cover its behinds because it knew that TSP would *never* stop with that 5%. TSP was not interested in nuclear power programme, it was interested in a nuclear weapons programme. Reagan knew it very well. The Americans clandestinely assisted the programme. They only wanted to be seen in a better light when the perfidy would break out eventually after a few decades. Long term planning}
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Dominic Grieve has opened the can of pakis. But I like this approach. first kick them hard and then apologies "laga kya? oooo sorry soooorrry haaan"

Dominic Grieve, Attorney General, Apologises For Offending Pakistani Community With 'Corruption' Remark
Khalid Mahmood, a Labour MP who came to the UK from Pakistan as a child, said the attorney general was marking out the Pakistani community as "more corrupt" than other minority groups.
Why his H&D is hurt? Pakistanis are better in corruption than other communities. Shouldn't he be boasting about it? They are better at something!
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What is Khalid Mahmood's problem?

All he has to do, is to take the percentage of Pakistanis in the prison population of the UK (or people of Pakistani origin) and divide it by the percentage of Pakistanis in the overall population and compare it with that of other major communities in the UK. Simple.

If it is lower and/or comparable - he has made his point. If NOT, then well - as most civilized people understand - Pakistanis are more likely to commit crimes than other communities in the UK.
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abhijitm wrote:Why his H&D is hurt?
His H&D is hurt because the British minister said he was not talking about India and he was indeed talking about TSP. For the first time, this South Asian nonsense was given a burial and that was hurtful.
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Pakis seem to have lost the war for hearts and minds in Youtube.


Most of the uploaded videos for LOC skirmishes and the missiles are from the indian side. Internet hindu power on the rise!!!
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Sharif Calls for Visa-free Travel between India & Pakistan so that terrorists from Pakistan can enter India freely.
Increasingly under pressure in his country over the continuing drone attacks by US agencies in Pakistani areas, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif made a strong plea over the weekend for speedily resuming peace ties with India.

"We must aim to dismantle visa requirement between the two countries," Sharif said choosing the unusual venue of the opening of a literary and cultural conference to voice the demand. The reason: he was told that The Times of India's correspondent was present at the function. Directly addressing TOI's representative for a large part of his speech, Nawaz Sharif said: "You must go back and convince your government to sit with us and resolve issues." :rotfl: {What a shameless critter}

He added: "I understand that your country is going to elections so the anti-Pakistani bogey is being raised. But let me tell you in the run up to the last election we never raised an anti-India bogey."

"India and Pakistan are mirror images of each other and therefore we must have good ties. This is a necessity," he stressed.

His plea to an Indian journalist surprised the audience - most of them writers and men of letters - and many wondered why he was doing so at a meeting to discuss the future of Urdu.
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For many UK immigrants degrees are a ‘taxi’ to nowhere
Every seventh taxi driver in the UK is a Pakistani. Many of them are overqualified for their jobs and hold university degrees. Does the UK need to reform its immigrant policies?
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Currently reading Magnificent Delusions by Haqqani. He does a better job of articulating our side than MEA/PMO or Indian media have done. The message is getting through as the reviews come in:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... print.html

Added later: Manning and Clad tear into pakiland:

"With the recent return to power of Nawaz Sharif, we are now seeing another round of delusional moves to square this resolutely round circle. A former American ambassador to Pakistan writes in a recent Asia Society paper that [5] “new people can bring new energy to a relationship." Cameron Munter cites a "new President," a "new Chief of Army Staff" and a "new Chief Justice of the Supreme Court” as hopeful signs, mentioning that a 'new' prime minister will soon come to Washington. The "question for Americans,” he says, “is how best to help, find common cause, and define common actions.”

No, there is no such question. There is no corner to turn. Damage limitation, not common cause, is the only choice. Pakistan’s retort, 'don't let us fail,' has been repeated down the years and well before 9/11."

http://nationalinterest.org/print/comme ... nship-9098
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Unless there are laws in paki for freedom of practice and propagation of religions, how is paki lands a mirror image of any civil society. Rest is just rhetoric to pass themselves off as civilized.

Wonder why great intellectuals of peace lands, NGOs, even pappi jhappi chattering classes ever do anything or even ask questions about freedom and propagation of religion in peace lands.
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Cosmo_R wrote:Currently reading Magnificent Delusions by Haqqani. He does a better job of articulating our side than MEA/PMO or Indian media have done. The message is getting through as the reviews come in:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... print.html
Good enough review except for this last part by Richard Leiby

The shame is that Pakistanis are a pious, warm and hospitable people — at least the many I met during my year and a half there. Haqqani’s book would have greatly benefited from showing us some of them: Giving common people voice helps us know who they are, how they live and what they think.

They are not the enemy. Just like average Americans, they simply pay the price of their leaders’ magnificent mistakes.
Of course, he sure was fed kababas by "hospitable and warm" TSP RAPE, but I have seen this cliche, people are nice but leaders suck used so often, that it is a lazy attempt to not dig deeper into the truth. Like the prosecutor for Mir Amal Kansi (the guy who shot & killed CIA spooks a while back) said, TSPians will sell their mother for the right price.

In any system of govt, the leadership does indeed reflect the people at large. One simply cannot disassociate the sociological roots that link leadership & govt from people. It is because large swathes of TSPians, especially Pakijabis & Talibunnies have a Jihadi mindset that TSP is such a terrorist cesspool. We have documented many-a-times here on BR on the popularity that LeT enjoys in TSP Punjab. And giving them more voice is not the answer as Richard Leiby urges, rather they and their leadership must be brought to justice.

I am sure Richard Leiby will say the same thing about average Iranians. But that did not stop US govt from tightening the screws on the Iranian govt and its mullahs, so much so, that Iran has agreed to halt its nuke program (latest news). Why can't US do the same with TSP? Rhetorical question because we all on BR know why US won't do the same with TSP and no need for repetition.
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The qualifying phrase that Leiby uses:

" at least the many I met during my year and a half there."

Meaning he's saying he's not sure they are all like that. But it is the 'they' that implies his doubt.
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Pakistan talks back on track?
NEW DELHI: The violence on the line of control (LoC) has perceptibly come down. And almost unnoticed, the conversations between India and Pakistan have increased.

Despite elections being round the corner, the buzz has returned to the government that the prime minister might take a final stab at visiting the only neighbouring country he has ever wanted to go to. What would it take for Manmohan Singh to be able to go to Pakistan?
In the past, India has flirted with the talks-inspite-of-terrorism option. But this year, India linked normalization of ties with Pakistan to peace and tranquility on the LoC. Its too soon to ascribe the reduction to diplomatic pressure, but something is clearly working. An official said, "We don't want to jump the gun, because there could be violence tomorrow."
In Colombo, Khurshid apparently met Pakistani PM Nawaz Sharif on the sidelines of CHOGM, a meeting that was not flagged by the Indian government.
Khurshid also said India has done everything possible to move the 26/11 case forward. Pakistan would now have to prosecute top LeT leaders like Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi and bring closure.
On Saturday, the PM met Salman Bashir, the departing Pakistani envoy, in a farewell meeting. "It is unusual for the PM to meet departing envoys," said G Parthasarathy, former high commissioner to Pakistan.
The risks are offset by the PM's own interest in normalizing relations with Pakistan, quite apart from a personal interest in seeing the village where he was born.

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Phakistan’s Phoconomic flisk
Reserves have also depleted at an accelerated rate because the central bank has been intervening in the interbank market to shore up the value of the rupee. Running down foreign currency reserves to buy rupees contributed to reserves dwindling to an alarming level in early October — to just under $ 4 billion, and not enough to cover even a month’s imports. By the end of October however, reserves (held by the State Bank) had recovered to $ 4.2 billion.This still puts reserves in the range that precipitated the 2008 balance of payments crisis. The important difference is that there is now an IMF programme in place. But more repayments loom to the IMF (on the earlier loan) and other creditors. In November around $744 million is due to the IMF as well as an unspecified amount owed to others.An IMF mission was recently in Islamabad to conduct a quarterly review of progress as required under the Extended Fund Facility (EFF) arrangement agreed in August for a fresh three-year $ 6.6 billion loan. With this review now concluded, the IMF’s executive board is expected in mid-December to approve the next tranche of the loan — around $540 million.Herein lies the challenge for the country’s economic managers. With more outflows than inflows expected in the next few months, managing the reserve position acquires critical importance, especially to avert any precipitous erosion of market confidence. . The IMF may also have underestimated the balance of payments gap. This is why the government has asked the Fund for additional upfront money to help it tide over this fragile situation. But this still leaves the government with the daunting task of managing a tight reserve position in the next six months to meet liabilities and prevent panic in the market. This is especially so as funding committed by other multilateral institutions and bilateral partners, conditioned on the IMF deal, is not likely to kick in for another few months. The government therefore has to deftly negotiate this period and signal that it is proceeding according to a plan to address the balance of payments problem and build reserves.
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Puttar Arab Da, Ghutgoon Ghutgoon Karda
Stamp of Arab imperialism/Rape By Qasim — Chotti Bacchedani Samjhdani Hamdani
The idiotical confusion created in the aftermath of partition in 1947, and more so after the breakup of Pakistan in 1971, ensured that this spirit of kafir neutrality and impartiality was sacrificed on the altar of an undefined mouthful, the ‘idiotogy of Pakistan’. The separation of East Pakistan, which contained a largely secular and highly politicised middle class, was a triple deathblow to progressive politics, an indigenous economy and Pakistan’s founding national theory. After 1971, there were more South Asian Muslims outside Pakistan than inside it, bringing its Muslim homeland status into question. The alternative to Muslim nationalism was sought philosophically in Pan-Islamism and financially in ‘petrodollars’. This was achieved through the Islamic Summit Conference in 1974; the full impact of this much-touted Islamic unity conference on the national psyche of Pakistanis awaits its scholar. Meanwhile, the constitutional excommunication of Ahmedis laid down a dangerous precedent with General Zia taking the religious argument to its most absurd extreme. The Islamic Revolution in Iran in 1979 was seen with trepidation by the ruling dynasties of the Muslim world at large. Saudi Arabia — a monarchy — was deathly afraid of a revolution in the Kingdom and therefore bolstered Wahabi and Salafi movements as a counterweight to Shia-ism. In other words, the Saudis wished to co-opt their own radicals and extremists by playing up the Shia threat. This is why we see Saudi Arabia standing with Israel against Iran today, a classic case of ‘my enemy’s enemy is my friend’. Pakistan is a natural battleground for this sectarian agenda. An investigation will no doubt show that Qari Shakir, the prime instigator, was a foot soldier in this massive Arab cultural, imperialist invasion with its sectarian paraphernalia. This cultural invasion is all around us. Speaking at Allahabad in 1930, Allama Muhammad Iqbal listed the liberation of Indian Islam from the stamp of Arab imperialism as one of the reasons for his advocacy of a consolidated Muslim state in the north west of India. It is therefore an irony that the stamp of Arab imperialism has become even more pronounced in that consolidated Muslim state; the new fad of ‘Al-Bakistan’ licence plates is a case in point. After speaking Urdu for almost 800 years, the Muslims of Pakistan have decided to dispense with the letter ‘p’ and adopt ‘Allah Hafiz’ instead of ‘Khuda Hafiz’ (God be with you). That this is an urban ‘Al-Bunjabi’ middle class phenomenon experienced all along the Grand Trunk (GT) Road from Lahore to Rawalpindi correlates with the rise of sectarian and religious extremism in these areas. One would care less if someone wanted to make a fool of themselves by having Al-Bakistan licence plates had it not been part of a larger, more disturbing trend accompanied with sectarian bigotry. The straitjacket and rigid interpretations of religion are ill suited for a populace that is informed in its religious identity by Indian, Iranian and Afghan influences and whose cultural heritage encompasses two millennia of eastern spiritual traditions. Pakistan is very much a South Asian country and will always remain one. The straitjacket of Arab cultural imperialism will only stifle us.
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:) Hare Ram, funny pakis even in their anger they tickle me so...
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Peregrine wrote:Pakistan talks back on track?
In Colombo, Khurshid apparently met Pakistani PM Nawaz Sharif on the sidelines of CHOGM, a meeting that was not flagged by the Indian government. . . .On Saturday, the PM met Salman Bashir, the departing Pakistani envoy, in a farewell meeting. "It is unusual for the PM to meet departing envoys," said G Parthasarathy, former high commissioner to Pakistan.
Are the talks back on track ? I would say 'yes'.

Our PM has still not lost hope of a Nobel Prize, if not this year, at least next. All he needs is to make a big breakthrough announcement. Barack Obama would do the rest for the Nobel Peace Prize. After all, he is so close to our PM and reveres him at least in photo ops. Our PM is waiting for some word from Pakistan to the effect that they accepted the culpability for 26/11 and are determined to prosecute the seven arrested. We are not even expecting any word from TSP on Hafeez Saeed. It is that simple, but, Nawaz Sharif is so scared to even make this simple statement.

The Americans are unable to pile up on Nawaz because of Afghan considerations. Our PM is getting impatient as time is running out. He is goading Nawaz into making some ambiguous statement at least but but nothing is forthcoming even as Nawaz is asking for resumption of talks and dismantling completely of the visa regime in return. God knows what else he is demanding through private channels. The Pakis are known to smell an advantage from miles away like sharks. Herein lies the rub for Shri Man Mohan Singh and his boss.

She and he sense that a breakthrough with Pakistan would make a good election rhetoric. They need to clutch at all the straws in the wind because they sense an impending doom.
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India-Iran Talks Create New Atmosphere for Peace Pipeline via Pakistan - Sandeep Dikshit, The Hindu
When they hold their next Foreign Office consultations on Monday, India and Iran will review the same list of issues in new circumstances brought about by the promise of easing U.S. sanctions.

“Relations with Iran have been held up due to the U.S. sanctions. The talks have created a new atmosphere for the Peace Pipeline via Pakistan,” says Chintamani Mahapatra of the School of International Studies, Jawaharlal Nehru University.

Despite India having walked away from talks on the Iran-Pakistan-India (IPI) Peace Pipeline citing security concerns, Iranian Deputy Minister for International and Commercial affairs Ali Majedi on Saturday expected New Delhi to overcome its doubts and join the project.

Government officials advised caution as some ground remained to be covered in the nuclear talks but felt the vibes generated by the just-ended Geneva Round will bring Iran into the Afghanistan game which will be to India’s advantage.
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US-Iran clinch interim nuclear deal: Blow to Israel and Saudi Arabia; relief for India
Nearer home, the US-Iranian detente provides an exit route for the United States from landlocked Afghanistan while reducing its dependence on extremist Pakistan, which is extracting a ransom for the 2014 drawdown from Afghanistan.
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India should have played a more proactive role in this. A chance squandered by our foreign ministry which has no imagination.
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^^
Something which was written in 2011. Then many posts used to appeal at Indian govt , later probably realizing that our (top down) diplomacy has gone to dogs as the top itself is rotten , I no longer see such appeals.
Many posts these days on Indian diplomacy atleast in my case are like notes to myself and the forum.
Lilo wrote:Rji,

Iran will hardly see pakistan as an ally of first choice in Afghanistan. Even in the remote chance that such a scenario comes to pass, the purer than thou question will begin to operate and in no time iranians and taleban will be at each other's thoats. The cooperation with pakis is probably a bluff by iranians to maximize their payoff with respect to other players in Afghanistan (India , Russia ,USA ).

Further Iran's influence is ever increasing rather than decreasing in middle east in the longterm (inspite of recent happenings in syria) and they don't have any pressing need to get into tactically brilliant ventures with pakis in afghanistan. Unkil is already in a drawdown and iran is in no immediate hurry knowing that . Its sole concern will be the level of unkil's permanent presence in afghanistan post 2014 and would like a say in the ongoing negotiations by unkil with karzai for permanent bases in afghanistan. Here india would should act deftly and get US and Iran to agree on broad aspects of such a presence . The pieces will then be set .

China's role is a wildcard though - it will be weighing between its needs in xinjiang and needs of pakis and itself vis-a-vis US and India.
Probably a wait and watch policy in the first few years ?

The capability of paki strategists to retain positive control of Jihadis is a big suspect and THIS will be the biggest fear of all the potential allies to pakis in their afghan venture.
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 4#p1178874
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http://www.jhuf.net/showthread.php?1842 ... ier-s-Head

http://im37.gulfup.com/cAjbK.jpg

NSFW (pic of a paki being paki. with the head of an Indian soldier)
I'm not removing the link but use discretion .
@chinmayanand, please use a bit of common sense about what can be posted inline.
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Could this Proof of an Inhuman Act be sent to all the DDMs so that those who "Denied" this Act will now Eat their Hats?

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Chinmay Saar can u please remove the picture?
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Peregrine wrote: Please check your E-Mail Box.
Peregrine ji, thanks. Got the mail and replied too.
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Peregrine wrote:
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Could this Proof of an Inhuman Act be sent to all the DDMs so that those who "Denied" this Act will now Eat their Hats?

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And the leftist sickulars on twitter too. Then let the comment section on those pakipasand pappi jhappi Google ads be filled with the links to this pic.
Let the Pakis see for themselves the kind of animals they are and let the Indians be reminded again and again of their duty.

BTW this Ilyas Kashmiri is still alive, he went underground (retired from active duty sort of) with the cover provided by Massa drone strike. He may still resurface when jihad for Kashmir is restarted from paki side.
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Might be inappropriate to post here, but after seeing Ilyas Kashmiri face, I remebered this blog. It somehow gives me immense satisfaction. This American guy has made large collection pigs being killed in Kashmir. Do check the first 2 pages. RIP Capt Kalia and his team, forever.

DEAD PAKISTANI TERRORISTS IN KASHMIR PICS ARCHIEVE

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

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It's high time someone carved out his head as well and turned it into a spitoon or some jar in which to deposit your pet dog's poo in, it's the mercantile & paranoid nature of the govt at delhi that prevents India from executing this job. Anyway, his time too shall come, if he's alive.
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