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the officer marked number '6', from which country? Arm patch indicates 1-time Commie country. Couldn't find it on Burmese, Vietnamese, Cambodian soldiers, or any other SE Asian ones
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from the blog of an RAF Officer attending Staff Course at DSSC
saw that he hadn't enabled Anon commenting on his blog. I try to avoid leaving any unnecessary online trails, if it can be achieved easily
Moreover the Gurus on this forum have always been up to the challenge
Hand in Hand exercise.
400% sure the Chinese named this exercise "hand in hand"
Their penchant for trying to find great sounding words which exude warmth, and they end up making a hash of it.
Vishal Jolapara wrote:What would it go to Chengdu for?
The Indo-Chinese anti-terrorism exercise which ended on Nov 13th I think.
Gagan wrote:Hand in Hand exercise.
400% sure the Chinese named this exercise "hand in hand"
Their penchant for trying to find great sounding words which exude warmth, and they end up making a hash of it.
Air Chief Marshal NAK Browne prepares to fly a fighter plane with his son Squadron Leader Omar ...Air Chief Marshal NAK Browne prepares to fly a fighter plane with his son Squadron Leader Omar Browne in Pune airbase on Thursday. PTI Photo
Air Chief Marshal NAK Browne prepares to fly a fighter plane with his son Squadron Leader Omar ...Air Chief Marshal NAK Browne prepares to fly a fighter plane with his son Squadron Leader Omar Browne in Pune airbase on Thursday. PTI Photo
q:doesn't normal ops include weapons config?
sirji generally they will fly clean most of the time in parctice. Then there will be specific practice sorties that will be flown with ACMI and practice rounds for Aams and Agms like the r73 without fins or that kab 500 seeker head in a pod rounds. Then there will be some with live rounds. The mix of these will vary obviously depending on operational requirements ityadi. Loading the aircrafts with weapons all the time increases drag and stresses the airframe. Additionally they can simulate weapon launches a lot of time in the radar software also.
merlin wrote:So how many SAMs will it eventually have? 32 Barak 1 + 48 Barak 8? Or 32 + 64? Or even 16 + 32/48?
Looking at the models and CAD images, this is the load out:
Front-section
1 x 130mm main gun
2 x 8-cell large VLS tubes - Brahmos SSM
2 x 8-cell VLS tubes - Barak-8 SAM
2 x RBU-6000 rocket launchers - each w/ 12 tubes plus reload
Mid-section
2 x twin 533mm heavy torpedoes tubes
4 x 8-cell VLS tubes - Barak-1 SAM
4 x 30mm AK-630 CIWS guns
Aft-section
2 x 8-cell VLS tubes - Barak-8 SAM
Totals:
SAMs - 32 x Barak-8 + 32 x Barak-1
SSM - 16 x Brahmos
Anti-sub - 4 x Heavyweight torpedoes + 2 x 12-tubed RBU-6000
Guns - 1 x 130mm main gun + 4 x 30-mm AK-630 CIWS guns
merlin wrote:So how many SAMs will it eventually have? 32 Barak 1 + 48 Barak 8? Or 32 + 64? Or even 16 + 32/48?
Looking at the models and CAD images, this is the load out:
Front-section
1 x 130mm main gun
2 x 8-cell large VLS tubes - Brahmos SSM
2 x 8-cell VLS tubes - Barak-8 SAM
2 x RBU-6000 rocket launchers - each w/ 12 tubes plus reload
Mid-section
2 x twin 533mm heavy torpedoes tubes
4 x 8-cell VLS tubes - Barak-1 SAM
4 x 30mm AK-630 CIWS guns
Aft-section
2 x 8-cell VLS tubes - Barak-8 SAM
Totals:
SAMs - 32 x Barak-8 + 32 x Barak-1
SSM - 16 x Brahmos
Anti-sub - 4 x Heavyweight torpedoes + 2 x 12-tubed RBU-6000
Guns - 1 x 130mm main gun + 4 x 30-mm AK-630 CIWS guns
Many thanks!
If there is going to be only 1 Kolkata class per carrier group then 64 Barak-8 might be better from a fleet defence perspective. Other ships in the carrier group that can do fleet defence (maybe 1 Talwar/Shivalik) won't have such long range SAMs to take out the missile platforms.
16 Brahmos VLS
48 (2 x 24) LRSAM VLS
4 (2 x 2) HWT TT
4 AK-630
1 OTO-76/62
2 Helicopters with their own weapons.
64 missiles are lesser than Delhi 96 missiles (16 Kh35 + 48 Shitil1 + 32 Barak1), but its sensors on ship & weapons are bleeding edge, enabling way much more with much less.