Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 04 Dec 2013 23:44

Auz wrote:
Agnimitra wrote: quote="Auz" - Who claimed "most consistent" thing here?

LOL, you did. Its a word from one of your own previous posts.
Why don't you "quote" it then, liar starving indian?

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 0#p1549870

And much more of your own commentary along the same lines. You are a admirer of disciplined, channeled, well-mobilized brutality, and therefore are an admirer of Islamism, just like many Commies who fancy themselves as great fighters against neo-colonialism. I also admire certain things about Arabs, Turks, Mongols, etc, but we operate in a different philosophical/cultural context.
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Syrian patriarch urges release of abducted nuns

DAMASCUS, Syria (AP) — Opposition fighters abducted 12 nuns from a Christian village overrun by rebels, Syria's Greek Orthodox patriarch and the head of a convent said Tuesday, adding to fears that hard-line Muslim rebels trying to overthrow President Bashar Assad were increasingly targeting Christians.

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UK: Parents Outraged over 'Racist' Threat for Islam Workshop

Parents in the United Kingdom are still fuming after being told their child could be labeled a "racist" for not attending a workshop on Islam.

Parents in Staffordshire were shocked and outraged when Littleton Green Community School sent a letter stating that workshop attendance was mandatory for students in grades four through six.

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 05 Dec 2013 01:26

Islam presents itself as a "total" ideology covering all aspects of life, it gives it's followers a sense of a shared culture and brotherhood, and a sense of emptiness to those who begin to doubt it.Islam legislates almost EVERYTHING of a human being. It controls them completely. From food to sex ...from marriage to divorce..from personal cleanness to manners of using toilet etc. Islam plays role in everything and this make its followers to start recognizing with Islam. Islam just ingrains itself in the mind of follower and even if a follower leave Islam , he/she won't come out of it for ever! (I know many such people who still wear Hijabs , don't eat pork or drink etc just because they WERE Muslims. Now it has become a part of them)

It appears that this guy didn't try to understand Dharmic systems mainly Hinduism and is in awe of a system that holds people by force and fear. There is a sense of identity even among dharmics, mainly among those in varnaasharma system. Dharma is the law, all Hindus hold it in high regard, follow it, revere it. No threats issued if they don't follow, each is left to his own karma, the karmic cycle decides your happiness and you pay one way or another if you are not dharmic. This dharma exists in every walk of life. There is dharma in eating, sleeping, studying, in marriage, in leading a married life, in raising kids, even in dying. So what is not covered? Most importantly nothing is forced, no threats if you do this or if you don't do that.

If India has survived for thousands of years with so much diversity, language differences, it is not because it is by fluke. This is because of shared sanskriti and sadbhyata that connects every Indian, even Indian Muslims and Christians with rest. This is also what Rajeev Malhotra writes, this is also how the sanskriti spread to other nations like Thailand, Srilanka etc, no invasion, no killing, no blood shed and no genocide...can any of the desert religions say this?

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 05 Dec 2013 02:14

It is trivial. If Islam is so elegant and noble why the injunctions to murder those who do not find that nobility?

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 05 Dec 2013 02:22

sanjaykumar wrote:It is trivial. If Islam is so elegant and noble why the injunctions to murder those who do not find that nobility?

I would put it this way: if Malsi is so elegant, noble, desireable, peaceful, yada yada yada and everybody would want to join that cultish club, why not let those have a choice of leaving if they don't like it?

kancha · Post by **kancha** » 05 Dec 2013 06:34

Shariah Officer Injured in Aceh as Partygoers Fight Back

Scores of young people vandalized a shariah police office and injured a religious police officer in the early hours of Tuesday morning after the Islamic authority broke up a gathering in Langsa, a religious official said.

“Around 1 a.m., one Wilayatul Hisbah [shariah police] team of 12 conducted an operation in the former Cafe Citra building on Jalan A Yani in Langsa because a ‘drinking party’ was said to be going on,” Ibrahim Latif, the head of the Langsa city shariah police told the Jakarta Globe.

“It was also a ‘sex party’ because men and women who were not related were mixing,” he added.

vish_mulay · Post by **vish_mulay** » 06 Dec 2013 07:55

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ister.html

Muslim man convicted for murdering his ex-girlfriend's father and sister in 'ill-conceived plan' to get back together with her because the Hindu family did not approve
Iftekhar Murtaza, 29, was convicted Friday for the fiery attack on the Dhanak family in Orange County in 2007
Murtaza was found guilty of stabbing to death Jaypraykash Dhanak, 56, slitting the throat of his 20-year-old daughter, Karishma, and setting their bodies on fire
Wife Leela Dhanak was stabbed in the stomach and had her throat slashed, but miraculously survived
Mr Murtaza concocted the murder plot with two friends after Dhanka's youngest daughter, Shayona, broke up with him over religious differences
Mr Murtaza married a 20-year-old suspected murderess in jail in 2011 after exchanging letters with her for five months
Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 06 Dec 2013 12:26

^ That's a very good looking girl there. Indian-African or Indian-Latino, it seems. She could have landed any white or desi Hindu guys, why would she fall for a Muslim goonda? Typical teenage girls - bad boys affinity at play.

ashish raval · Post by **ashish raval** » 06 Dec 2013 12:39

^^ frustrated lot of pampered gals without much dharmic Sanskar.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 06 Dec 2013 16:37

vish_mulay wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ister.html

From the article above:

Dhanak's parents were practicing Hindus and told her Mr Murtaza and his Muslim family came from a line of 'beggars and servants'.

anmol · Post by **anmol** » 06 Dec 2013 17:11

anupmisra wrote:
vish_mulay wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ister.html
From the article above:

Dhanak's parents were practicing Hindus and told her Mr Murtaza and his Muslim family came from a line of 'beggars and servants'.

Did the girl say this or the dead father/sister ? Obviously the lawyer of this ____ said this while defending him.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 06 Dec 2013 19:07

The sister was alive when she was set ablaze. Her throat was also slit. Gruesome. I've been with a few muslim girls and I notice that there is a tendency for the father/brother to exhibit psychopathic behavior. I know two muslim girls that have secretly converted to hinduism to be with their boyfriends b/c they feared being halaled.

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 06 Dec 2013 19:23

RoyG,

I have also been with a couple of moslem girls.
As long as you are steadfast and refuse to convert then they do accept this. I always got the impression that they were just greatful to be treated decently and were relieved that they would not have to marry a cousin!

A very good childhood friend of mine has married a paki from pak (he is 48, so a bit deperate) she is 18 years younger than him. We chatted about the entire conversion issue and he told me that he has told her that every Saturday he goes to the mandir and he would never stop. She is due to come over sometime in the new year.

My advice was to subtley "de-islamise her.
She is into fasion and wants to be a hair stylist, so it should be quite easy.

All he has to do is stick to his guns

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 06 Dec 2013 19:34

Haresh wrote:...married a paki from pak...

A double whammy! Whats that saying in Hindi about a Karela and Neem?

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 06 Dec 2013 19:51

anupmisra wrote:Whats that saying in Hindi about a Karela and Neem?

Sorry I have no idea what you mean!!!!!!

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 06 Dec 2013 20:39

>>All he has to do is stick to his guns

And stay close to reason.

The world is a complicated place people. Sometimes I fear we are getting too close to the issue, and our views are becoming a caricature of reality...

I have a good friend, from school days for instance, who married a Muslim. She is happily married with two grown sons, and they are a family of solid atheists.

There are many, many variations on this theme.

Of course, one must absolutely oppose any attempt to force some faith system or ideology on someone else through physical or emotional coercion...

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 06 Dec 2013 22:01

Haresh wrote:RoyG,

I have also been with a couple of moslem girls.
As long as you are steadfast and refuse to convert then they do accept this. I always got the impression that they were just greatful to be treated decently and were relieved that they would not have to marry a cousin!

A very good childhood friend of mine has married a paki from pak (he is 48, so a bit deperate) she is 18 years younger than him. We chatted about the entire conversion issue and he told me that he has told her that every Saturday he goes to the mandir and he would never stop. She is due to come over sometime in the new year.

My advice was to subtley "de-islamise her.
She is into fasion and wants to be a hair stylist, so it should be quite easy.

All he has to do is stick to his guns

Gal's parents wouldn't be a problem? I guess the guy really has to be on top of the situation. And you say that she is much younger, from pak, and conversion thingy. He has his hands full. But, all the best and best of luck to him.

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Our neighbour seems to have married a woman and converted. She is not even beautiful or anything(I mean if she was irresistibly beautiful, then one can understand the scenario) . Now, they have two children who are growing up to be a pakka mujlims. While the bro of the guy is doing Ayyappa bhajans in the same house(different floor).

Strange world!!! Ultimately, it seems like just one wrong step can take you in a completely different route.

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Even if the gal had married that psychopath who murdered the gal's father and sister, he would have definitely harmed her also.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 07 Dec 2013 05:11

Haresh wrote:
anupmisra wrote:Whats that saying in Hindi about a Karela and Neem?
Sorry I have no idea what you mean!!!!!!

Karela is known for anti Toxin , anti Bacterial qualities and so is Neem . Using both togther sure death knell for Pakifaeceous germs.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 07 Dec 2013 06:38

RoyG wrote: I know two muslim girls that have secretly converted to hinduism to be with their boyfriends b/c they feared being halaled.

Really!

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 08 Dec 2013 03:29

http://vimeo.com/81251487
A Paki and Brit Sikh . Watch Paki 's mental development level enhanced by inbreeding.

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 10 Dec 2013 01:24

Clerics Under Watch in SL

Sri Lankan intelligence agencies are on the vigil against Islamic preachers who create communal tension and spread rumours threatening the security of the country, the State-owned Daily News said on Saturday.

Some previously armed Eastern province-based Muslim fundamentalist groups, which used to pass off their killings as those done by the LTTE, had changed track since 2010 and were operating as “preachers of Islam”, the paper quoted a top intelligence official as saying. “They conduct religious discourses. Terror groups like Osama, Knox and Jetty, which operated prior to 2010, have resorted to this tactic,” the official said.

“Several” Muslim fundamentalist groups were involved in rumour mongering. Defence Secretary Gotabaya Rajapaksa had issued a directive to take action against such groups.

Islamic Extremism

Speaking at a seminar in September last, Gotabaya had said: “There are some foreign groups that wish to encourage Lankan Muslims to identify themselves more with the global Muslim community, thereby reducing their integration with the rest of the population. Muslim fundamentalism is spreading all over the world. The possibility that such extremist elements may promote Muslim extremism in Lanka is a concern.”

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 10 Dec 2013 14:14

Anindya, this is the direct result of SL trying to play the Pakistan card (apart from the China card) against us.

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 10 Dec 2013 15:53

SS - you're right. From the web, I figure the actual Muslim population in SL is somewhere between 7.6% and 9.7% - assuming that the actual figure is closer to 10%, the tipping point of Islamic troubles may have been reached. The incidents in Burma, also makes SL a target for the global jihadis.

sum · Post by **sum** » 10 Dec 2013 15:58

^^ Hadn't most SL muslims already ticked their native language as Arabic instead of Sinhalese/Tamil in their latest census causing lots of takleef among the non-SLM crowd there?

Guess the fun is about to begin in SL also very soon

arun · Post by **arun** » 10 Dec 2013 19:32

X Posted from the “Oppression of minorities in Pakistan” thread.

Hat tip Anup Misra.

In the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, a country claimed to have been created as a safe-haven for the Mohammaddens of the Indian Sub-Continent, Green on Green Intra Mohammadden persecution sees bookstall selling religious literature of the minority Shia sect closed due to pressure by co-religionists belonging to the majority Sunni sect of Mohammaddenism :

Karachi Int’l Book Fair allows Takfiri Jihadi literature, bans Shia Islamic books

More in an earlier article :

Karachi Int’l Book Fair allows Takfiri Jihadi literature, bans Shia Islamic books

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 11 Dec 2013 02:09

Chandragupta wrote:^ That's a very good looking girl there. Indian-African or Indian-Latino, it seems. She could have landed any white or desi Hindu guys, why would she fall for a Muslim goonda? Typical teenage girls - bad boys affinity at play.

Three factors at play
- Parents tote the all religions are same and also abandon dharmic education in early years - deracination
- Bollywood influence (bad boys etc and the Hindu boys are busy studying so dont fit the bill) - this is a huge influence
- Love jihad

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 11 Dec 2013 04:40

Atheists face death in 13 countries, global discrimination: study

In 13 countries around the world, all of them Muslim, people who openly espouse atheism or reject the official state religion of Islam face execution under the law, according to a detailed study issued on Tuesday....

A first survey of 60 countries last year showed just seven where death, often by public beheading, is the punishment for either blasphemy or apostasy - renouncing belief or switching to another religion which is also protected under U.N. accords.

But this year's more comprehensive study showed six more, bringing the full list to Afghanistan, Iran, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Nigeria, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, United Arab Emirates and Yemen.

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 11 Dec 2013 17:25

Britons pleads guilty to terrorism in US court

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... court.html

If these guys were fund raising for moslem jihadists in India, would they have been deported????

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 12 Dec 2013 00:56

Jhujar wrote:http://vimeo.com/81251487
A Paki and Brit Sikh . Watch Paki 's mental development level enhanced by inbreeding.

Its a wonder how the Sikh is tolerating that inbred retard! Rhetorical devices per word = why Quran is divine?

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 12 Dec 2013 02:21

notice how the jihadi was slowly cornered to the pole and how he hugs the sikh and shakes hands with the guys behind the camera to deflect some of the humiliation.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 12 Dec 2013 03:29

Sufi vs. Mullah .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JctE9Bjrmhk

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 12 Dec 2013 04:25

Its a wonder how the Sikh is tolerating that inbred retard! Rhetorical devices per word = why Quran is divine?

40 rhetorical devices translates to 40 shades of green.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 12 Dec 2013 08:03

Terror attack on Yemeni Hospital. They don't spare anyone - doctors, elderly, women, etc

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=617_1386786542

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 12 Dec 2013 18:01

Muslims leaving Malsi in YUK

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 12 Dec 2013 23:36

Since the Islamic god is good at rhetorical devices, i have a rhetorical question. Have the islamic 'scholars' uncovered ALL the rhetorics and how sure are they of it? Why does god have to 'speak' in tough to understand rhetorics to simple minded, camel and goat tending nomads in the desert?

When the inbred kept harping over and over again that the number of 'rhetorical devices' was justification of divinity, my mind kept going 'retarded devices' over and over again.

vish_mulay · Post by **vish_mulay** » 15 Dec 2013 08:25

Zaid Hamid called for Hindu beheading in Afghanistan!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng3Xol7 ... ata_player

As usual bania will be beheaded at Hindukush! Wet orgies of lunatic mind

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 16 Dec 2013 02:25

The Muslim Agenda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... bZoc#t=757

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 16 Dec 2013 02:33

Muslim Agenda

^^^^ Blocked in US?

member_26255 · Post by **member_26255** » 16 Dec 2013 02:37

venug wrote:
Muslim Agenda
^^^^ Blocked in US?

Nopes. Works for me just fine.

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 16 Dec 2013 03:40

agastya ji, tried again, seems it works. Thanks.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 17 Dec 2013 17:55

Turkish PM says territories of Balkan countries belong to Turkey

Greece rose to its feet as it reacted to comments made by Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan that the Turkish territory included the Greek part of Thrace, parts of Macedonia, Bulgaria and Bosnia and Herzegovina

“Thrace is Thessaloniki but at the same time it is Komotini and Xanthi,” Mr Erdogan said during a speech delivered as part of the campaign for next year’s local elections. “It is also Kardzhali [in Bulgaria] and the Vardar River. Going further back, it is Skopje, Pristina and Sarajevo.”