Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 08 Dec 2013 22:11

See, bjp can't let farzi to form govt. For the GE's sake he will introduce the jan lokpal immediately he comes to power. Thus he will become popular overnight. Then there is always MSM with him to project him at national level. This will be a fatal mistake. BJP doesn't want to create another enemy. If they form govt now the good doc can do some real good stuff by election and win hearts. farzi will be forgotter by that time. Just don't allow more limelight for farzi anymore. Stop him right here and right now.

rohitv · Post by **rohitv** » 08 Dec 2013 22:16

on times now-- Harshvardhan is saying that BJP can sit in the opposition since it doesnt have the numbers.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 08 Dec 2013 22:17

rohitv wrote:on times now-- Harshvardhan is saying that BJP can sit in the opposition since it doesnt have the numbers.

that would be a masterstroke any which way

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 08 Dec 2013 22:18

The way Congress is our collective Tamas, AK is our collective Dambh (our collective silly pride). The choice of Jhadu in competition with the Kamal was deliberate it seems. Anyhow the bigger point is while AK is a much smaller phenomena compared to 77 and then 87 and then 97 ka time pass, the nature of the challenge has changed. A large majority of people on SM are merely interested in pushing the forward button. And a e-Narega army can easily produce enough drivel to be passed around. SM has basically fast forwarded the process of creation of dummies.

What we are seeing is a repeat of the Obama type phenomena in India. Bush took some stupid things and somebody propped up Obama. Here the Dynasty says they are different from MMS who runs the government but against the government of MMS we are ready to fight after taking lessons from AK. Smart move.

"in ways you cannot even imagine" looks like a threat to me.

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 08 Dec 2013 22:19

Altair wrote:Honestly we must all acknowledge the fact that pappu did contribute to BJPs success. His dumbness was so profound that everyone saw it too clearly. He is a lucky mascot for BJP in 2014. I hope they declare him officially as PM candidate. Pappu cant win saala!!

According to Dr Subramanian Swamy, neither Pappu/Moron/Buddhu nor Vishkanya/Tataka is constitutionally eleigible to be PM. The INC will need to scrape the bottom of the barrel to come up with some other parasite.

KL

rohitv · Post by **rohitv** » 08 Dec 2013 22:19

narendra nath ‏@iamnarendranath 23s

Narendra Modi used his veto and said there will be no bargain to form Govt in Delhi and BJP ready to go again in poll with General election

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 08 Dec 2013 22:30

Let me narrate a scene from a perfectly djinneered psyops against BJP by Bollywood in a famous movie.

Young group of idealists + 1 Hindutva vaadi

Get a beating of their life (and the mother of the martyr fighter pilot protesting is beaten to coma) , yindutva vaadi guy contacts his Yindutvavaadi honcho for support but the guy ups the windows of his Amby and skeddagles off the scene, in return his supporters trash the idealist yindutvavaadi for insulting their honcho.
Now the Yindutvavaadi becomes disenchanted with yindutva and the villain (the defence minister who scams in defence procurement - modeled on George Fernandez courtesy of Tehelka "sting" op 5 years back) is dispatched with an assasination.

Movie makers got their moolah , sikular CongIs got their propaganda into young minds , young un's got their moj maja in a blockbuster movie .

Now rewind to 2011 someone now djinneered a scene resembling the movie on the streets of dilli with the anti corruption protests and then the spontaneous rape protests - students were teargassed, blasted with water jets ,beaten to a pulp with batons , bones broken also in Ramlila maidan night raid on BR and sleeping sadhus...

What did the dilli gang (d4) do at this moment to disprove the psyops on BJP(from the movie) in these critical moments ?
That connivance with congis by the dilli gang in 2011 is at the root of this current disenchantment of otherwise Modi supporting college students/yuppies wrt Bhajapa.

To counter this , NaMo (who was kept out from Delhi politics by the gang during and after 2011 and came into the picture late) should now project a NEW Bhajapa unremitting and unforgiving as an opposition - always going for the jugular when ever it comes to targeting the dienasty and its minions . And backing up its promise on good governance and justice in which ever state its in power.

He personally has been doing this. But If rest of Bhajapa leaders abide by these principles with conviction characteristicly only seen in NaMo, these paid media and bollywood and NGO and sikular propaganda will never work and can be stuffed back directly into their mouths after coming to power.

Moral of the dilli story :Never sitout a fight where the dienasty is the main antagonist and always be at the front lines in front of those who see bhajapa as their own (like the sadhus in ramleela or the kids on dilli streets).

JohnTitor · Post by **JohnTitor** » 08 Dec 2013 22:32

rohitv wrote:
narendra nath ‏@iamnarendranath 23s

Narendra Modi used his veto and said there will be no bargain to form Govt in Delhi and BJP ready to go again in poll with General election

This is a brilliant strategy. It will force AAP to take INC support (since neither want to go back to polls - AAP fears losing seats, and INC fears BJP gaining more seats) thereby exposing AAP for what it really is.. a INC front

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 08 Dec 2013 22:32

Going for elections would be a masterstroke for bhajpa as the fleeting part time cadre of AAP would have less enthu than before

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 08 Dec 2013 22:37

BJP in Delhi has all kinds of choices available to it except the one of forming (a majority) govt alongwith its allies.

I would have liked the cut and thrust way but that is only because I am that kind of man - what to do?

The central point is the initiative has to be taken. If NaMo is confident of doing that and not slipping to the two bit hustlers and MSM, while being in a minority sarkar or in opposition then I say lets do it. The big picture fight is where all political parties must focus esp. BJP. And I believe NaMo and team can handle it.

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 08 Dec 2013 22:41

AAP can't do anything by being in opposition in 6 months. Heck, bjp can afford to sit on their arse and do nothing like UPA does for 6 months. Then after GE they can easily split AAP and take the command.

rajithn · Post by **rajithn** » 08 Dec 2013 22:42

suryag wrote:Going for elections would be a masterstroke for bhajpa as the fleeting part time cadre of AAP would have less enthu than before

Not just that. People should be given an opportunity to see AAP for what it really is. A revolutionary group who don't have any solutions but will be first in line to highlight problems.

If they sit in the opposition their job becomes easier. All they have to do is squeal for everything Dr. Harshvardhan does and pick holes. And the CONgis will be happy to oblige them in this.

I believe AAP will form the Government in Delhi with outside support from the CONgis. If this happens, it will be good for the BJP.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 08 Dec 2013 22:46

toning up slightly on hindutva will push congi towards aap..

D4 must be tense now..

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 08 Dec 2013 22:48

Amol.D wrote:^he has promised to introspect and involve the common man "in ways you cannot even imagine". Those are the exact words

Is he going to lacerate himself in penance?

rohitv · Post by **rohitv** » 08 Dec 2013 22:49

BJP should let AAP form the govt in New Delhi. It will do two things:
1. Make AAP accountable for governance in Delhi
2. Tie them up in Delhi

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 08 Dec 2013 22:49

The rout of the Congress in these 4 elections is only the "entree" in the banquet yet to be be finished.The "main course" is yet to come,which will see the Congress politically devastated,decimated,annhilated,mascerated,masticated,expurgated,emasculated and castrated to the point of being exterminated.

Yet despite this savaging and mauling of the Congress in the hustings,it still has not learnt its lesson.The obtuse,arrogant and asinine statement by a Congress lout and lackey earlier,that a "chaiwallah cannot think of becoming the PM",illustrates to paraphrase a popular saying ,hasn't yet "smelt the chai"! Trying to excuse its catastrophic defeat by talking about anti-incumbency,the need for "better communicating with the public,better marketing,etc.,"shows that it is blinded by its arrogance and indifference to the Indian voter.After all what does the voter want? It can be encompassed in just 3 words, "a better future" .The dilemna facing the voter in the booth is whether to give the current regime another term or boot them out and vote in a new dispensation.His decision hangs upon just one factor."Performance".If a govt. at the state or centre does not perform,it will be thrown out.That's what the anti-incumbency factor has not worked in MP and Chattisgarh,nor in Gujarat earlier.In Rajasthan where the govt. failed to do so,it has been spectacularly thrown out.

The above results also show that unlike the BJP ,which has several "flavours" in its "brand" of chai,,the Congress has only one brand of tea,marketed as "Dynas-ty"! This brand has become stale stuff,has lost its flavour and is so heavily "adulterated" ,that few want to drink it anymore.Moreover,its master blender,MM Singh (mini-mini Singh) has shrunk to such an extent,that one needs both a microscope and telescope to find him and any of his positive attributes. The Congress has woefully imagined that only the Nehru-Gandhi dynasty has the divine right to rule India (along with its sycophantic flunkeys and lackeys) and that it knows what medicine is best for the people.This arrogance and mentality of the divine right to rule has now been fully exposed as a fraud upon the ordinary people of India. When the dynastic heads delivered the goods to a major extent,like Nehru,Indira and even Rajiv to an extent,they were elected or reelected based upon their performance. With such a shameful track record of non-governance and inrlenting corruption, and blatant grand larceny of the Indian exchequer,with the total connivance or deliberate tolerance of the PMO, to expect anything but a resounding thrashing come 2014.

VikramS · Post by **VikramS** » 08 Dec 2013 22:49

In the short term any credibility which AK gets will hurt NaMo.
AK can't do much harm in six months but can make all the noises..

The younger gen anyway leans left.
Key right now is to end this Congress BJP == nonsense
And highlight how AK left policies will damage economy more

And its clear NaMo doesn't need Hindu vta

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 08 Dec 2013 22:50

rajithn wrote: If they sit in the opposition their job becomes easier. All they have to do is squeal for everything Dr. Harshvardhan does and pick holes. And the CONgis will be happy to oblige them in this.

No. Believe me, they would be jumping up and down inside to form govt. Just imagine, first time they fought an election and are able to become in power without doing much themselves. How wonderful! People spend their half of life to fight a corporation election.

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 08 Dec 2013 22:52

vivek.rao wrote: People won't fall for such tricks.

You need to introduce bold reforms. Lokpal is such dumb idea.

1. No more appointments to retired officials
2. Election/law enforcement reforms.

Whats wrong with Jan Lokpal? I have read the 30 page odd draft document and I don't see anything wrong with it.

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 08 Dec 2013 22:52

yes Kapil Dave ji everyone who won in AAP would be clamouring to form Govt and start earning money

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 08 Dec 2013 22:55

kapilrdave wrote:See, bjp can't let farzi to form govt. For the GE's sake he will introduce the jan lokpal immediately he comes to power. Thus he will become popular overnight. Then there is always MSM with him to project him at national level. This will be a fatal mistake. BJP doesn't want to create another enemy. If they form govt now the good doc can do some real good stuff by election and win hearts. farzi will be forgotter by that time. Just don't allow more limelight for farzi anymore. Stop him right here and right now.

BJP can move a little further on worldview such as "vishwa-guru" or one state 'adopting' a country (hope there is better word).

This can capture hearts of youngsters to an extent.
Programs:
1) Border defense management services and integrated tech ityaadi - ex if Thailand needs a border fence and management for its southern borders.
2) teaching Indian traditions - teaching cources in yog, praanaayaama, etcetera with indic knowledge ownership and teaching.
3) banking/consultancies, trade works, at various levels.
4) Integrated Foreign affairs ministry, with exhaustive NRI services channelled through MEA.

This could be done in language of choice or by style of state 'adopting' the country, etc.

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 08 Dec 2013 23:08

Don't forget that AAP has its baap outside Bharat. They were heavily funded through dubious
parties in Europe, just to muddle the water in desh. Now that baap has succeeded in foisting
AAP in Bharat, more money will pour in to expand it all over the desh. Further, it'll form the
backbone of the so called third front drawing all the JNU jholawallahs, and all other regionals
will queue up to shake hands with AAP.
Kejriwal is playing the role of Nehru with inept support from Anna who wants to be Gandhi.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 08 Dec 2013 23:09

btw, I am hearing some of the senior TMC leaders, (not MB) are pushing for a pact with bjp in WB.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 08 Dec 2013 23:10

Like BJP even AAP and Congress too have a lot of choices available to them. For example in his usual grandstanding AK has already claimed that AAP will sit in opposition. Congress too would like to mix covertly with AAP after AAP has achieved its full potential after the GE-14.

OTOH even the Congress joining AAP would make the Congress the saviors of this sham anti-corruption movement. AAP can easily be sold off as damsel in distress.

AAP is in essence only AK and a few other fixers. The rest are only rubber stamp. So any story can be concocted just like the accusations of AAP.

Some years back when I was new to internet I chanced upon a strange story about some lord second coming perhaps from new testament or whatever. Two of the satan's generals keep challenging the messiah. The messiah is not able to work out anything till the God himself comes to his aid and tells the messiah that the two generals of Satan have weapons from the God's armoury himself. Hence they cannot be killed till both are separated and killed simultaneously. Well this is I think a mid eastern story but what the hell it works then BJP should try to take some lessons too like RaGa.

Satan is only supposed to be going into hiding though.

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 08 Dec 2013 23:11

nageshks wrote: In one way, it is a good thing if Khujliwal exposes himself to a Lok Sabha elections. We can drag in Prashant Bhushan's Pakistani and Naxalite sympathies, and his anarchism into the open. We can focus on Khujli's terrorist sympathies and consorting with communalists of the worst sort. There is time yet to burst the Khujli bubble in the coming six months.

+1. BJP should also legally bludgeon AAP with the bribe scandal, get Anna to denounce Bhusan's paki-pasand ideology and work on the pAAPis' already-stated preference for NaMo as PM even while they want Khujli in Delhi (how intelligent is this?). Kejriwala guy is deadly poison for India and must be destroyed in the ballot box completely never to rise again. Actually BJP and NaMo can use a lot of the raw indealism and energy of the AAP troops while they seek ways to shed the old codgers brigade like D4 who are 95% responsible for allowing AAP to walk away with so many votes.

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 08 Dec 2013 23:12

Kati wrote:Don't forget that AAP has its baap outside Bharat. They were heavily funded through dubious
parties in Europe, just to muddle the water in desh. Now that baap has succeeded in foisting
AAP in Bharat, more money will pour in to expand it all over the desh. Further, it'll form the
backbone of the so called third front drawing all the JNU jholawallahs, and all other regionals
will queue up to shake hands with AAP.
Kejriwal is playing the role of Nehru with inept support from Anna who wants to be Gandhi.

Exactly. That's why I say stop him right here and right now. You can stop his flow of funds by being in power. He can't do much by being in opposition.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 08 Dec 2013 23:13

If AAP has national ambitions, it cannot tie with Congress. BJP will simply hang Congress on AAP's neck. Rahul and Kejrival together on a photo will decimate AAP.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 08 Dec 2013 23:14

hanumadu wrote:
vivek.rao wrote: People won't fall for such tricks.

You need to introduce bold reforms. Lokpal is such dumb idea.

1. No more appointments to retired officials
2. Election/law enforcement reforms.
Whats wrong with Jan Lokpal? I have read the 30 page odd draft document and I don't see anything wrong with it.

Can you find any fault with any of the laws?

The laws are about the word not about justice. This was understood by Indians all through history and they put justice above law. Every law after the Hindus went down to foreigners is about exactly the reverse.

disha · Post by **disha** » 08 Dec 2013 23:15

I do not see the reason for any rona-dhona!

But first congratulations are due to BhaJPa team (V.Raje, SSC, NaMo, RS and countless faceless foot soldiers of BhaJPa) for a well fought campaign and an excellent performance at hustings.

Think about it, Rajasthan with BhaJPa as 3/4th's majority? That is a tight slap to CongIs. It basically proves one and only thing - governance without pandering to caste divisions matters. Roads help everybody. Water helps everybody. Electricity helps everybody. Avenues for opportunities help everybody. Government role should be providing equal opportunity. Doles do not win elections, visible governance does.

That is a big take away. Since the same can be said about 36'grh and MP. Yes, the media will spin "chawal-wale baba" and "SSC is "silent and honest and more acceptable" to their narrow selfish ends. One thing that becomes clear is that in 36'Grh, there was a vote for governance, in spite of local anti-incumbency. Once people's stomachs are filled, their aspirations need to be given wing - whether it is going for Dance-India-Dance or going for ISRO or going to set up a vegetable mart!

An anecdote helps. I was leaving to take my flight from Baroda Airport in 2005. The driver was a 20 year old school drop out. And we started talking about what he wants to do and this were his plans - 1. Work hard to earn some money, 2. Get his own "taxi" 3. Learn eengleesh - so that he can go up the value chain and actually drive well-heeled 5* "suit types" (and he dug it in for me here, that I was not "suit type" enough!) 4. Then make some more money and make a fleet of taxis. I was impressed by his aspirations and dreams. He knew what he wanted to do and was going about it methodically. Last heard, he got "settled" and has a "flat" (2 BR/1 Bath). He is a muslim.

Point is, people have aspirations to get ahead and they look at the government to smoothen avenues to obtain it. If entitlements come, great - they will use it. If you are giving me a free flat just because I am a muslim., say, great. But I also need a honorable roji-roti to maintain it and furnish it with 24x7 electricity, water, bath tubs etc.

36'garh is behind the curve on that and it will take a decade or so for it to come to the stage of Raj/MP as it currently now. Raj/MP are a decade behind Guj. but will get there quickly (in less than a decade if there is concentration on governance like 24x7 electricity, good roads, clean drinking water and opportunities)

All the media wallahs forget their - particularly their understanding if it goes beyond their noses, do not go beyond their Delhi based studios. This brings to Delhi.

When asked to comment on the results, Sheila Dikshit said "Hum Bewkoof hain". That sums it up., the frankenstein called AAP which they helped to create has consumed them. That is the first great step.

Remember, NaMo himself said - CongI mukt bharat. That way, democracy becomes truly participatory. Yes, AAP came to party on a shrill negative campaign. This is not the first time it is seen. It was seen post Emergency, it was shown by TDP (NTR) and it was shown by Devi lal. What is important is that CongIs have been decimated., to third place in Delhi.

Delhi has pointed out starkly (of course the other states did too)., that Gandhi magic is not going to work anymore!! SD is as close to top of LootEms Delhi (and as close to SG) as you can get (SG is the queen of Lutyens (LootEms Delhi)). She lost her own seat. People are looking at the alternatives.

People have got down the CongI bus. They are looking for alternative buses - in the case of Delhi it is BJP and AAP. Now yes, there is rona-dhona here that AAP will be vote-katua., however people forget that CongIs have been decimated, a new power broker has joined in and it will be seen how the power is wielded.

Harshvardhan'ji did the right thing. Said, we do not have a clear mandate to govern so we will sit in Opposition. So it is now AAP's responsibility to form the government. If they take the support of CongIs, great - their game is fully exposed. If they form a minority government, that is fine too - then they will become the visible form of government and have to start tackling issues from day one. And there are lots of them.

First being AAP being stridently anti-corruption, they should be going after all known forms of corruption - viz. SD's trusteeships (they can be pointed on how SheilaD collects her rent via a maze of trustee ships), Lok ayukta's to look into the corruption of politicos and bureaucrats, all the chota-mota corruptions right from DTC to DP while fighting CongIs is fighting them aggressively. If AAP does not move swift to contain corruption, it will fall on its own petard.

Note surrounding Delhi (In Raj, MP etc)., there is already examples of good governance provided by BhajPa. So people who got off the CongI bus and joined AAP bus may get down again and either get back or get on the Bhajpa bus. Further, 31% of AAP supporters support NaMo for PM. If Kejriwal wants to become PM of India, that is fine too - he should be able to come down to Guj or Raj or MP or 36'Garh or Goa and tell its people how he delivered better governance.

In the meantime, BhajPa should be taking care of their constituency and its neighbours. They should be visible and at least show their efforts genuinely in trying to improve the lot of their constituencies. Worrying about "gut-bandhan" is wrong.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 08 Dec 2013 23:16

I think aap is very clear on not supporting any party.. then bjp must step forward and not sulk to form gov in delhi.. come on! even one vote is a one vote in such a fractured setup.. no more we can get 2/3rds majority.. this alliance business also should end.

natural selection is the largest party by 1 vote. period

disha · Post by **disha** » 08 Dec 2013 23:17

^^ And while I was typing, it did came news that NaMo put his foot down and said no "gut-bandhan"., do what the voters have asked you to do. You do not have clear mandate, that is voter's problem. Your responsibility is now take care of your constituency, that is strive to give them better governance.

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 08 Dec 2013 23:20

Lilo wrote: someone new like Kiran Bedi or VK Singh has to be fielded by BJP openly endorsing its campaign in Nai Dilli.

Absolute must! A huge ex-servicemens rally in Delhi with both present and both constantly hammering on the danger to India from Kejri inner circle's paki appeasement.

disha · Post by **disha** » 08 Dec 2013 23:20

SaiK wrote:I think aap is very clear on not supporting any party.. then bjp must step forward and not sulk to form gov in delhi.. come on! even one vote is a one vote in such a fractured setup.. no more we can get 2/3rds majority.. this alliance business also should end.

natural selection is the largest party by 1 vote. period

Saik'ji., it is not "sulking". It is a clear statement - "We do not have a clear mandate to govern, we will not dis-respect your voice".

Let AAP figure out what it wants to do. Whether they see this as anti-CongI wave or anti-CongI and anti-BJP wave and are shrill against both. If it is mature, it will form minority government. And if it can deliver clean governance, more power to them.

Right now, AAP is shrill and still in "poll mode" saying we are equidistant from CongI and Bhajpa since both are corrupt. Okay, if that is so, let voters ask "what is your plan?" - still throw tantrum?

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 08 Dec 2013 23:22

what I am saying is this.. if modi wants his men to take of their constituencies, then he should not say : pehele aap : and sulk responsibility to form the gov.. move ahead.. take the step.

clear mandates are'nt given.. then what you will do? the need of the hour is to take up leadership!!!!

I think modi should take a flight to dilli.. establish the gov, and project the plans.. what he will do for dilli. take up the oppty, and establish a bada Gujarat.. a national demonstration in 6 months flat to remove all evil setup kangrez has done.

give the people of dilli a taste of Gujarat.

boss! If I were Modi, I will do this now.. I'll be on the flight, with detailed list of plans for next 6 months before 2014 elections.. what an oppty to prove!!!!!

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 08 Dec 2013 23:26

I don't think BJP should try and form a govt in Delhi. Let the anarchists of AAP try to form a government and run it for 6 months to show what they are capable of.
I don't think the people already in AAP movement can be enticed. The few AAP people whom I met (including the hardcore ones who wear the topi regularly in public places) seem like belonging to a cult. Only way the trance is broken to see their party in action. And mocking them relentlessly. Atleast stopped a guy from joining the cult by this way.
AAP model may have worked for Delhi but can't see how it can be replicated across the country.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 08 Dec 2013 23:27

disha wrote:Harshvardhan'ji did the right thing. Said, we do not have a clear mandate to govern so we will sit in Opposition. So it is now AAP's responsibility to form the government. If they take the support of CongIs, great - their game is fully exposed. If they form a minority government, that is fine too - then they will become the visible form of government and have to start tackling issues from day one. And there are lots of them.

With 32 BJP does not have mandate. How will 29-AAP will have mandate? What Harshavardhan and NaMo are saying is absolutely right regarding not approaching for forming government but someone needs to quietly work for a strategy to get to top of Dill. There are too many skeletons in cupboard of Dilli that are precious to be left alone and not use for 2014.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 08 Dec 2013 23:28

I can see the weakness in people to take leadership roles.. even right in this forum!

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 08 Dec 2013 23:29

fools rush in where angels fear to tread

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 08 Dec 2013 23:29

saravana wrote:I don't think BJP should try and form a govt in Delhi. Let the anarchists of AAP try to form a government and run it for 6 months to show what they are capable of.
I don't think the people already in AAP movement can be enticed. The few AAP people whom I met (including the hardcore ones who wear the topi regularly in public places) seem like belonging to a cult. Only way the trance is broken to see their party in action. And mocking them relentlessly. Atleast stopped a guy from joining the cult by this way.
AAP model may have worked for Delhi but can't see how it can be replicated across the country.

^ no time for that.
Before sAAP is discredited in their bungling governance , damage will occur in LS2014 prospects for Bhajapa.
Onlee case I can accept this tradeoff is to show sAAP==congi , if it forms govt with cong support.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 08 Dec 2013 23:31

Virendra wrote:[Not talking of 5 yrs later. Talking of 2014 .. won't BJP get into bad files of Delhi janta at least??
Add to that the fact that AAP might spread out of Delhi for 2014 .. they will take such a 'backstabing charge' to outside Delhi too.

Boss, what backstabbing? It is politics and BJP has to win. If there is a split in AAP, then let both splinters stew in their own juices in 2014. They would divide their own urban votes and even reduce the percentage because of the dirty laundry displayed in public. Delhi != India. How much leverage Dikshit had over Modi in the last 5-8 years?