Indian Interests

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 25 Nov 2013 03:28

We have to realize that most such histories are re-imaginations of the past due to present issues.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 25 Nov 2013 23:52

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India is wasting its demographic dividend

India is wasting its demographic dividend
Ashish DhawanNovember 25, 2013 Email to Author

First Published: 00:47 IST(25/11/2013)
Last Updated: 00:53 IST(25/11/2013)

We are a nation of 350 million children aged 4 to 17, many of whom although enrolled in school will never get past Class 8. A new book by Harvard economist Lant Pritchett reveals that an average Class 8 student in India would be learning what students learn in Class 1 or 2 in the United
States. Is this the future we are preparing them for?

Research suggests that 80% of brain development takes place by the time a child turns five. And yet the Right to Free and Compulsory Education Act (RTE) applies only to children from six to 14 years. As a country we need to expand this right to include children below the age of six years. In developing countries, such as Mexico, the free and compulsory education is offered to children at the age of three. To give this critical pre-primary intervention due focus, the government must mandate two years of pre-primary education within the current schooling system with a well-designed curriculum to provide a strong foundation for all children. We should also establish an early childhood education (ECE) accreditation agency for setting standards and quality assurance of pre-schools. We must also address the fact that nearly three-fourth of teachers engaged in ECE today lack adequate professional qualification.

A critical dimension of our education crisis is that even those children who are in school often do not acquire foundation skills —including literacy and numeracy — that enable them to successfully continue in school. The Annual Status of Education Report is a testimony to the fact that we are failing to help millions of children make the crucial transition from ‘learning to read’ to ‘reading to learn’.

We need a nation-wide literacy and numeracy drive to ensure that all children master basic reading and numeracy skills by Class 2, a goal defined clearly in our Twelfth Plan. Under Tony Blair’s regime, Britain introduced a ‘national literacy hour’ that required teachers to devote at least one hour a day to improving children’s reading standards, through carefully structured daily lessons. This policy had a lasting effect on reading levels — the percentage of 11 year olds reaching the required reading standards increased from 57% to 75% in the first four years.

For effective implementation, all primary teachers must be trained on building early literacy and numeracy skills among first generation learners and provided with teaching-learning aids such as Math manipulatives and levelled reading materials in regional languages. We should also consider specialised summer remedial camps. To provide personalised attention to children, tutor volunteers should be made available round the year.

Although enrollment in Class 1 is 97%, only 40% of our children reach Class 12 today. More shockingly, only 47% of college graduates are employable in any sector of the economy, according to the National Employability Report, by Aspiring Minds. If we do not gear our educational system towards every student’s preparedness for college, career and life, our demographic dividend will turn into a demographic disaster.

The Chinese government, for instance, subsidises workplace training programmes and requires students in vocational tracks to spend a year on workplace training during their upper secondary programme. A similar emphasis in India will also make vocational tracks more aspirational for students. Investing in our children’s future requires adequate preparation at every stage of their educational journey.

Ashish Dhawan is founder and CEO, Central Square Foundation
The views expressed by the author are personal

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 30 Nov 2013 03:58

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/-Defe ... -/1201073/
‘Defence forces should play key role to ensure access to energy’

As the West becomes more self-sufficient in the energy sector, there will be an increased burden on India to ensure a secure access to the energy reserves in the Middle East, Montek Singh Ahluwalia, Deputy Chairman of the Planning Commission said Thursday.Ahluwalia was addressing the convocation ceremony of the 125th course of the National Defence Academy (NDA), Khadakwasla here. Addressing a gathering of 300 NDA cadets, who passed out, their parents and the academic staff, including officers of the armed forces, Ahluwalia emphasised that at such times, India's defence forces will have to play a more significant role in "safeguarding the country's energy supplies"."For long, the Middle East has been the dominant source of energy for the whole world. (But) the growth of new energy sources in the US, North America has meant that those parts of the world will become more or less energy self-sufficient. Their interests in preserving access to oil supplies will reduce. On the other hand, our import dependence on oil will increase. Especially as our GDP goes up, our growth rate goes up, really, the burden of ensuring that we can have secure access (to energy) will fall much more on us than we have now," said Ahluwalia. Though he did not specify, Ahluwalia was referring to the advancements in extraction of shale gas in the US, Canada in the recent past. Interestingly, India's own ONGC began shale gas exploration Wednesday.
He said India's GDP will be third largest in the world by 2030. "China will be number one and the US will be number two. There is only one superpower today and another one is beginning to catch up. But in the next 20 years, we will certainly have a more multi- polar world.the ability of a superpower to single handedly police the world will be lower," he said. "At a time when large number of our institutions is coming under question, I am happy to say that our armed forces continue to command admiration," Ahluwalia said after conferring medals on the achievers of the passing out course of the NDA.He also stressed on reducing the dependence on importing defence technology by increasing the ability to "develop technology" within the country.

ashish raval · Post by **ashish raval** » 30 Nov 2013 05:00

^^ man, just look up there is free energy from sun all year around in the blessed nation. Why do you want your nation to be addicted to crude ?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Dec 2013 04:33

There was atime when The PM used to address the NDA cadets. Look slike its now delegated to the Dy Plannning Commission.
Thats like a squirrel addressing a pack of wolves and telling them how to fight!

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 04 Dec 2013 00:55

India Shadow Banker Fights to Keep Empire Built on Poor
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-0 ... -poor.html

Tucked away on a hillock in the suburbs of Mumbai, a missile-proof bunker twice the size of the U.S. White House holds the key to a $3.8 billion puzzle. The entrance to Roy's 148-hectare estate in Lucknow, which has an artificial lake, a golf course and a helipad. storage center is in a compound watched by 84 security cameras and surrounded by a 3.7-meter (12-foot) wall topped with barbed wire, Bloomberg Markets magazine will report in its January issue. The 66,600 fire-resistant metal boxes inside contain 200 million documents with the personal information of 30 million investors in Subrata Roy’s group of companies known as Sahara India Pariwar. That’s more than the combined population of Australia and New Zealand. The dark corridors of a subterranean chamber are an appropriate place for the documents: Roy, a fit 65-year-old with a bushy mustache, is India’s top shadow financier, part of a largely unregulated industry with assets the Financial Stability Board estimates at $670 billion and that provides financial services outside of the banking system. Over the past 35 years, Roy has built an empire that Sahara valued at $11 billion at the end of 2012. It owns properties such as New York’s Plaza Hotel, London’s Grosvenor House and at least 120 companies, including television stations, a hospital, a dairy farm, retail shops selling everything from detergents to diamonds and a 42.5 percent stake in India’s Formula One racing team. Sahara also owns 14,600 hectares (36,000 acres) of land, an area the size of Liechtenstein.
While Roy says his personal wealth amounts to less than $1 million, if the assets of the closely held group, including the Mercedes-Benz S350 he’s chauffeured around in, were counted as his own, he’d be the fifth-richest man in India, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index. All the while, Roy has portrayed himself as a crusader for what he calls “financial inclusion” for the 65 percent of adults in India who, according to the World Bank, don’t have access to a bank account.
. Roy says he performs a critical service, which he calls “parabanking,” his term for shadow banking. “We are always taking care of those people who never go to banks,” Roy says in an interview at his home, modeled on the White House and nestled inside a 148-hectare walled property in Lucknow, the capital of Uttar Pradesh in northern India, along with an artificial lake, a golf course and a helipad. “I can give you millions of examples where a cobbler has become a fruit vendor, or a rickshaw puller who has three rickshaws now.”
Now, Roy is fighting to keep all that he created. Regulators say he doesn’t play by the rules and are asking India’s Supreme Court to take away his assets, dismantle his companies and throw him in jail. The country’s market watchdog, the Securities and Exchange Board of India, known as SEBI, has accused Roy of flouting a Supreme Court order requiring Sahara India Real Estate Corp. and Sahara Housing Investment Corp. to refund $3.8 billion they had raised selling convertible debt as investment products to depositors without SEBI’s approval.
The company says the 31,675 cartons of documents it delivered in 128 truckloads after the ruling, prove it repaid the money. SEBI’s lawyers told the court the math is muddled and the paper trails often lead nowhere.
SEBI officials declined to comment. A lawyer representing the agency, who asked not to be identified because he isn’t authorized to speak publicly, offers the example of a man named Anirudh Singh, who appears 1,433 times in Sahara’s documents with the same address and father’s name. The person was marked as repaid 34 times on a single day, the lawyer says. A spokesman for Sahara declined to comment about the duplication. In October, the Supreme Court directed Sahara to hand over to SEBI title to land valued at $3.3 billion as collateral for investors’ money the regulator says remains unpaid. While Roy says that all of the money has been refunded, he said in his Lucknow interview with Bloomberg that investors may have chosen to reinvest some funds in other Sahara products. Another Sahara company ran afoul of the central bank in 2008. Sahara India Financial Corp., which raised $11.5 billion in deposits as of June 2011, was ordered by the central bank to return the money with interest to savers by 2015. It said the company ignored regulations, including those requiring payment of minimum interest rates. The company says it fully repaid the money as of March 2012.

““We really don’t know who the investors are,” he says. “Everything about the Sahara group is very mysterious.” Only two of the more than 120 Sahara group companies are publicly traded, and a majority of their shares are held by Roy or other Sahara entities. Sahara Housingfina Corp., which provides home loans and consumer lending to the self-employed, is 71 percent owned by three other firms in the group, according to regulatory filings. Roy is chairman and the biggest shareholder in Mumbai-based Sahara One Media & Entertainment Ltd., which owns television channels and produces films. He has a 24 percent stake, worth about $5.5 million, while other Sahara companies control 51 percent, filings show.Sahara has an in-house deity, Mother India. A 3-meter-high statue of the goddess riding a chariot pulled by four golden lions and waving an Indian flag stands outside the company’s gated Lucknow headquarters. The image, a version of which is known to every Indian schoolchild, appears in company literature and advertisements.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 04 Dec 2013 06:20

Corruption Perceptions Index 2013

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 04 Dec 2013 12:08

if bloomberg has that article on Sahara, then somebody somewhere is gunning for that guy and his company. he pissed off somebody in India's central circles in a way which pisses off even the out-of-india backers of that circle. who and what remains to be seen.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 07 Dec 2013 11:25

Probe ordered into shutdown at India’s Antartica station Probe ordered into shutdown at India’s Antartica station http://www.niticentral.com/2013/12/07/p ... 65706.html

The Government has ordered an inquiry into the shutdown of ISRO activities at Indian Research Station in Antarctica allegedly due to lack of fuel at the remote site and clashes between the team leader and her subordinates.The inquiry is being conducted by the Ministry of Earth Sciences (MoES).The research station ‘Bharti’ provides data for more than 20 satellites of the Indian Space Research Organisation(ISRO) and has more than 17 employees from various scientific organisations in the country. The shutdown of ISRO activities occurred in October 2013.Union Minister Jaipal Reddy, who holds the charge of Ministry of Science and Technology and Earth Sciences, said on Friday he has asked MoES to conduct an inquiry into the incident.He said the inquiry will look at the case both from the point of view of national security and the success of the mission.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 09 Dec 2013 07:25

Wall Street Journal India Watch:

Rise of the Sari Tying Class

Reflect on the 4-0 drubbing and TT in jail and the meaning of the above article.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 10 Dec 2013 04:31

Who is TT?

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 10 Dec 2013 04:44

Tarun Tejpal.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 13 Dec 2013 05:34

thanks nachiket ji.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 13 Dec 2013 05:39

http://azeez-luthfullah.blogspot.com/20 ... ts-in.html

Lessons from Egypt and Jamaat-e-Islami Hind

Lesson No. 1:
The agents of change are always the youth. If we want to bring change in the society, we have to capture the minds of the youth and mould them in the Islamic way. The Egypt revolution may have been scripted and drafted by the seniors, but it was executed by the youth. Youth were in the forefront and they took the plunge when it mattered most. Without the active involvement of the youth the brutal regime could not have been toppled so smoothly. It is amazing that the Ikhwans were able to nurture, train and groom such a large number of youth under the very nose of the tyrant Pharoah.

We have to do something to groom our own youth. At present we have SIO which has succeeded in mobilising students for the Islamic cause. There is a big gap as far as the Indian youth are concerned. There is no activism. There is no guidance. There is no mobilisation. Youth power is being wasted. There is an urgent need for proper planning in this regard. India has the largest concentration of youth. But the percentage of youth in the Islamic movement is not healthy and the figures presented by the General Secretary of the Jamaat in the recently held All India Members conference is alarming. The number of members of the Jamaat who have not seen thirty summers is very very meagre. Those with grey and white beards outnumbered those with shiny black beards in that Ijtema-e-Arkan. That does not augur well for a movement which strives to bring total change in the society. The success story of Solidarity Youth Movement in Kerala has to be repeated in all over the nation. And that is the need of the hour.

Lesson No 2:
Patience and perseverance pays. Be patient. Never lose hope. Patience pays and it pays handsomely. Look at the Ikhwans. For 52 long years - more than two generations - they had been patient. They were suppressed and oppressed by the most brutal regime of the day. They bore all kinds of oppression. They were banned and persecuted for more than a half century. But still, they never lose hope. They never threw away their core idealogy. They never succumbed to the pulls and pressures of the brutal regime and its wily sponsor. They were steadfast in their belief and action.

Those who call for drastic changes in our core idealogy should stand and ponder over this phenonmenal perseverence displayed by the Ikhwanis. Let us not be impatient and make hasty decisions which may harm our larger goal.

Lesson No 3:

The Ikhwanis never called it Islamic revolution. They co-opted with others. They worked with other sections of the society. They even shared the struggle with the coptic Christians. Cross and Quran alongwith the Egyptian flag were raised in Tahrir Square. They warmly embraced with others for a common cause. Slavej Zizek has described it as the most sublime moment. I would say it as the most defining moment in the 21st century. In a multi-cultural and multi-racial world that is the most pragmatic approach.

We in India too should such an inclusive approach. We have to identify common goods and goals and join hands with the likeminded noble souls in attaining them. We have to learn from the pact which is known as "Hilful Fuzul" was arranged in the house of Abdullah ibn Jad'in in Makkah by certain important personalities of the time. Later during the period of his Prophethood, the Holy Prophet often mentioned this pact and said that he was still willing to participate in a similar pact and not to violate its provisions. We have vast number of right thinking and noble hearted activists here in India. They are not corrupt. They are not communal. We have to join hands with them and find ways and means to struggle with them towards attaining common good.

Lesson No 4:
Embrace the issues of the people and people would always sit in your lap. The Ikhwanis embraced the issues of the people. They joined hands with them when it mattered the most. They identified the simmering discontent against the regime and used it. They got availed of the opportunity and positioned themselves. They have always been in the forefront in tackling the basic issues of the lay man.

We have to strive for common goals instead of Muslim specific issues. The experience gained through Forum for Democracy and Communal Amity (FDCA) would be useful in this regard. It has to be noted that whenever we took common issues the nation responded passionately and positively. The Human Rights Campaign launched in 2003 and the Caravan for Peace and Justice in this meeqath are shiny examples for this. Similarly the more positive response we got when we took up the cause of anti-liquor campaign in Tamil Nadu could be cited as an example for this trend.

Still there are vast number of issues affecting the aam aadmi here. We have to take them up.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 13 Dec 2013 05:42

never be under any kind of illusions that Hindus thinking on above lines is somehow "treachery". you can bet anything that Islamists are planning as highlighted above.

it is the thinking behind the above "lessons" that is important. the Islamist in the above blog post clearly is not obsessed about specific "methods" of achieving his end goal. he has the flexibility to do anything and co-opt any number of other "ideas" and "people" to achieve his goals. without ever loosing his core ideology of eventual Islamic dominance. something for us to ponder.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 14 Dec 2013 01:03

Babus Joining Nationalistic Forces Will Curb UPA/ PSec Trojans in Administration.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/bjp- ... 31158.html
BJP is the only party to protect national interest: Former home secretary RK Singh as he dons saffron colours

He distanced himself from "saffron terror", a phrase coined by the Home Ministry when he was at helm. A bulk of investigations into cases involving saffron terror were carried out when he was the home secretary, retiring only on June 30 this year. "The term saffron terror was coined by Home Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde. I never used that term," Singh said, adding that terrorism has no religion and organisations such as the RSS were driven by the nation's interests.Singh is not the only one in the security establishment who has these views about the BJP and the RSS. Former Intelligence Bureau (IB) director Ajit Doval - though officially not a member of the party - is a known sympathiser and a crucial part of the BJP-RSS think-tank. Ever since Singh retired from the Home Ministry, he had made his proclivity to BJP clear as he publicly expressed views against UPA's policy on internal security and also its stance vis-a-vis Pakistan. There were other instances where Singh is said to have been in disagreement with the minister. One such was the Sayed Liyaqat Shah case. Liyaqat, a surrendered militant who was to be rehabilitated, was arrested by Delhi Police on March 20 on the Nepal border. Shinde had handed over the case to the National Investigation Agency against Singh's advise.Rajnath Singh could not conceal his glee as he welcomed the former bureaucrat. "People who have served the country with distinction have decided to do their bit when it is in trouble. Today is just the beginning. You will see many more such people joining BJP in days to come," Rajnath Singh said.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Dec 2013 12:58

Surprising, but it seems that this nonsense is actually a punjab government driven initiative not a central govt, MMS driven agenda as believed earlier.

Sheer dhimmitude.

Tewari questions Punjab government's logic of power starved Punjab selling power to Pakistan

LUDHIANA: Union Information and Broadcasting minister Manish Tewari has questioned the Punjab government's move to sell power to Pakistan when the state was still massively power deficit.

"It is strange that the Akali-BJP government in Punjab is trying to illuminate Lahore while Punjab continues to remain enveloped in darkness due to massive power shortage," he remarked.

Reacting to the reports that the Punjab government was planning to sign a power selling agreement with the West Punjab chief minister Shahbaz Sharif, Tewari wondered as where from would Punjab get the power to export it to Pakistan since the state during the peak demand was still short of about 6,000mw.

"Even when all the power plants get fully operational, Punjab will still be short of about 4,000mw," he revealed, while questioning the logic of exporting power under such circumstances.

"Just because the state government has inaugurated two units in two thermal plants at Rajpura and Talwandi Sabo generating 1,300mw more does not mean the state is power sufficient leave aside being power surplus so that it can export it," he observed, while adding, Punjab has a long way to go before it could even be self sufficient in power production.

The minister wondered as how could Punjab think of selling power to someone else when the industry during the peak demand was subjected to four days power cuts in a week. He pointed out, even in the agriculture sector the state was not able to supply the promised eight hour power. Besides, he added, there was no end to the unscheduled power cuts in Punjab during last year.

Giving details, Tewari, who represents Ludhiana parliamentary constituency said, the total availability of power in Punjab from all sources, state as well as the central pool was not more than 8,000mw and this was far too less than the peak demand of 14,000mw. He said, it can be anybody's guess as how a power deficit state can even think of exporting power. "Nothing can be far from the truth than someone claiming that Punjab was power surplus," he remarked.

The minister said, the state government appears to have been swept away by the over-enthusiasm over the inauguration of two units of Rajpura and Talwandi Sabo. "But let me remind the state government that it does not have any direct control over the power generated from these units as these are owned by private power companies who have no commitment to supply power to Punjab," he pointed out, while remarking, this is a classic case of someone trying to sell someone else's horse.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 14 Dec 2013 13:12

I can understand Manish tewaris supreme contempt for BJP.The Punjabi Hindus had to face the semi-fascist tactics of khalistaanis.And BJP Punjab unit is full of idiots(except the odd Tandon) who accept a dhimmi position for hindus vis-a-vis jutt sikhs.No wonder the 'TFTA' jutt sikh dominated Akalis are ready to do dhimmititude to the even more 'TFTA' pakjabi mohammedan.

No wonder Jagdish Tytler,Vinod Mehta have such contempt for BJP.I sometimes wonder whether Narendrabhai is even aware of hindu-Sikh issues in Punjab.Akalis are no paragons of virtue.OTOH Dr MMS was ready to rehabilitate the soft spoken Ashwini kumar.

No one can deny Sanatani Hinduism is weakest in Punjab from the times of Mahabharatha and Sikh Panth was more representative of Sanatani traditions than 'Arya Samaj' etc but today politically Punjab is part of Bharatha varsha and Sikhism v. 2.0 is more Briturd colonial version than anything else etc

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 17 Dec 2013 01:12

India Leaks $344 Billion in Dirty Money.
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2013/12/ ... rty-money/

While India has never been your standard Asian export powerhouse, it is one of the world’s largest exporters of one commodity: Dirty money.The total amount of dirty money India exported in the decade ended in 2011, came to a whopping $344 billion, making the South Asian country the world’s fifth largest developing country exporter of illicit cash after China, Russia, Mexico and Malaysia, according to a report this week by Global Financial Integrity, a Washington DC-based research and advocacy organization.
The illicit outflows from crime, corruption and tax evasion grew more than 10-fold during those 10 years to reach $85 billion in 2011, the report said, as corruption in the south Asian nation grew at a faster pace than even the impressive expansion of the economy. For comparison, India’s exports for 2011 came to about $300 billion.“The organization uses data from the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank and official data from each country to calculate illicit fund flows. It looks at the differences between the declared value of exports when they leave a country and the value declared when they land somewhere else as imports.India and other developing countries need to create new policies and better monitor trade and financial flows to keep this black money at home, Global Finance Integrity said.“Poor countries hemorrhaged nearly a trillion dollars from their economies in 2011 that could have been invested in local businesses, healthcare, education, or infrastructure,” said GFI junior economist Brian LeBlanc, the other author of the report. “This is nearly a trillion dollars that could have been used to help pull people out of poverty and save lives. Without concrete action, the drain on the developing world is only going to grow larger,” he added.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Dec 2013 02:44

Well Tiwari and his ilk should try to see how much the Punjab State govt policy is driven by the UPA phappi Jhappi aman ki tamasha charade. An Indian state has no/zilch presence in foreign policy.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 18 Dec 2013 19:16

'No Returns Filed by Over 16,000 NGOs Getting Foreign Aid'

http://t.co/5stkjqfSvn

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 18 Dec 2013 20:41

Mansih Tiwari seems to have graduated from Goebells School for Government Spokespersons.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 18 Dec 2013 21:42

This Indian government has zilch credibility. They lie and cheat. The worst paet is that they dont understand how Indian state and centre relation works.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 19 Dec 2013 02:14

http://www.indiafacts.co.in/the-final-s ... st-hindus/#
The Final Solution against Hindus

The physical liquidation of European Jews was followed by their effective banishment to an unenviable Middle Eastern location. Jews may have felt they had no choice in the aftermath of the holocaust, but they have been placed in situation of permanent war, where their survival is not guaranteed. Tragically, a gifted community, whose intellectual and aesthetic attainments are without parallel, has been transformed into modern Spartans. Only the ability to fight wars is what ultimately counts for a Jew because survival must take priority over other goals. The apparent influence of the US Jewish lobby is a paradoxical confirmation of the plight of the Jewish people, obliged to defend a homeland under permanent siege and an existential situation inimical to the integrity of the intellectual and spiritual traditions of Judaism.
The strategy adopted, to which all Christian denominations have since adhered unwaveringly over time, is to portray Hinduism as purely a vehicle for oppression by the upper castes, especially Brahmins. They equate Hinduism with caste alone and successfully portrayed it as a form of egregious racial oppression, akin to apartheid that cannot be tolerated. In the past few months, huge strides have been taken by church lobbyists in Europe and the UK to ensure official condemnation of caste as a form of oppression, the subtext identifying it with racism. Some Hindu groups in the US and the UK, (not least HAF’s damaging and uninformed Caste report) have unintentionally, or perhaps even knowingly, abetted this diabolical conspiracy by mea culpa hyperventilation about supposed caste crimes.

It is a cause of profound dismay that Anglicised and Americanised Hindus are collaborators in the unfolding drama of their own annihilation. Even ostensible Hindu office bearers of the Sangh in the UK and US are apt to introduce themselves as interfaith dialogue practitioners rather than nurturers and defenders of Hinduism. Their desire to engage with Christians and their churches is evidently unstoppable and animus towards anyone who dissents, intense. Some Hindu groups even allowed the Anglican Church hierarchy, in the UK for example, to select Hindu interlocutors for their mutual dialogue. It means only Hindus whom the Church finds agreeable have access to public platforms. Of course acquiescence to the preferences of Christian groups assures formal recognition from the governmental authorities and access to financial assistance.

The prodigious funding required to sponsor robust Christian evangelical movements across India has been readily available, from foreign intelligence services, church organisations and myriad charitable fronts controlled by either. Subversion in India is coordinated between Christian churches, foreign governments and other institutions like the Ford Foundation. Anybody with a significant public profile in India usually becomes a recipient of Ford or Rockefeller largesse.

Scandinavian US satellites have also become increasingly active in Christian evangelical activities because they are viewed as innocuous despite their transparent Nazi past. German church organisations are involved as well and all of them are currently engaged in a massive Christian evangelical drive in Nepal. Bribed local politicians of all political parties are in the pockets of these organisations and the Maoist leadership is actually Christian and the Maoist label merely a cover to facilitate religious conversion. They aim to turn Nepal into a Nagaland adjacent to the Chinese border, the only land access the US can acquire easily.

The Christian church and their Western patrons do not expect to convert a majority of India’s people in a short span of time. They are working patiently to convert sufficient numbers in strategic locations, in different parts of India, to acquire an electoral veto. Despite determined efforts at concealment of census evidence, it seems likely that Christians already comprise 8% of India’s population. They surely dream of the 60% conversion to Christianity achieved within a generation in the Republic of Korea, but would be happy to settle for an interim 15% in India. It would give them a veto, in conjunction with the Muslim vote bank, over Indian parliamentary politics and foreign policy.They see Muslims as imperative temporary allies, which accounts for the campaigns against Narendra Modi, especially over the US visa issue. But the Christian church is confident that Muslims will have less success than them in getting Hindus to convert voluntarily when personal and professional pressures make life as a Hindu intolerable. They justly have grounds for optimism because, with their relatively modest existing foothold, they have already seized effective control of India’s fate through a mere former waitress. She is likely to ascend to sainthood alongside Adolf Hitler, for her services to Christ the Lord, although her fascist late father will probably be smiling from his afterlife vantage point.

In the estimate of Christian organisations, Hindu political influence has been expunged from Tamil Nadu and Kerala completely and Andhra Pradesh, where religious conversions have surged, will almost certainly follow. They rightly judge an Anglicised, secular West Bengal polity as instinctively anti-Hindu and subliminally sympathetic to Christianity although it is wrapped in a bogus secular guise. They rejoice in total control over the strategic locations of Nagaland and the Mizoram, whose importance exceeds their territory and population size and expect Arunachal Pradesh to succumb to Christian blandishment, which means bribery and blackmail.This political goal of subverting India from within was adopted more than sixty years ago by Anglo American Governments, keen to deploy Indian manpower and resources in Cold war ventures. It has taken a while to come within striking distance of this historic aim though the Cold War, if not their grand imperial aspirations, has waned. In the meantime, Christian leaders quietly celebrate the ferocity with which former Hindus, especially of high caste background, loathe all things polytheist and Hindu. They also note with satisfaction that the grandparents of the foremost Muslim intellectual of the twentieth century, who abhorred idolatry, were Kashmiri Brahmins. They do not see the need to physically eliminate a majority of Brahmins because their skills will be useful for imperial rule, once they have succumbed to ruthless machinations.

Dr Gautam Sen taught international political economy Political Science at the London School of Economics.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 19 Dec 2013 14:27

Past time to ban controversial Chinese telecom companies and other entities doing business with Indi for very good security reasons.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 13869.html

Are Huawei the enemy within? GCHQ is tightening its supervision of the giant Chinese telecoms company’s UK headquarters

n a modern office block on the edge of Banbury protected by the sort of high security provided for sensitive government facilities, a team of computer experts each day painstakingly pulls apart circuit boards and computer code from equipment made by Chinese company Huawei.
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The purpose of this building - known as “The Cell” - is to establish whether the products emerging from Huawei’s global supply chain contain flaws which might endanger Britain’s national security by allowing them to be used to spy on or disable the nation’s phone or data networks.

What is even more unusual about The Cell is that it is staffed and funded by Huawei employees who have in turn been subjected to Developed Vetting - the most stringent and intrusive level of UK government security clearance - and are overseen by a former director of GCHQ.

This extraordinary co-habitation is undertaken by the Chinese company as part of its attempts to overcome a tidal wave of mistrust which has seen it described in Washington as a threat to “core national security interests” and yet embraced in Britain as the epitome of globalised hi-tech.

The tentative nature of that embrace was underlined this week when it was announced that the Government is to enhance the oversight by GCHQ of The Cell - also known as the Cyber Security Evaluation Centre (HCSEC) - and let the intelligence agency direct all its senior appointments.

At the same time, the review by the Prime Minister’s national security adviser rejected a call by MPs to resolve any conflicts of interest at the centre by arranging for its staff of about 20 - who are already required to be UK nationals - to become direct employees of GCHQ.

In making his recommendations, Sir Kim Darroch said he was satisfied that HCSEC was operating “effectively”, adding that the unit was in fact a “model” for collaboration between government and the private sector.

Huawei and its Banbury nerve centre lie directly on the fault line between the desire for western countries to work with China’s best companies and the reticence generated by, on the one hand, concern at Beijing’s record for hacking and more febrile complaints of commercial expansionism fuelled by little more than sinophobia.

Huawei has consistently - and volubly - denied that its equipment can be used to launch attacks on critical infrastructure or indeed that it has links to the Chinese military or intelligence services.

In an attempt to bridge the gap between suspicion and mutually-advantageous profit, Huawei, founded by former People’s Liberation Army engineer Ren Zhengfei, set up HCSEC in 2010 on the back of an earlier deal to supply telecoms equipment to BT.

Amid concern that so-called “backdoors” had been built into equipment which could allow a third party to covertly intercept data or cripple communications at an unknown future date, rigorous tests have been carried out at The Cell ever since to allay such geo-political queasiness.

The centre scrutinises equipment from servers to transmitters supplied to British operators such as O2, Talk Talk and Everything Everywhere, looking first at its physical components from access points to hard drives before then scrutinising software for vulnerabilities. It is understood that the decision on what to examine is taken by the phone companies in consultation with GCHQ rather than Huawei.

In a sign of the extent to which the Chinese company, which now supplies in 140 countries and last year had global revenues of £21bn, wants to be seen to be transparent it has even installed a copy of its source code - the crown jewels of any technology giant - inside the Banbury facility - albeit in an ultra-secure room inside a security cage.

At the same time, it has poured resources into Britain, opening 15 offices and increasing its number of employees to 1,500 by 2017 - along with planned investment of £650m.

The result is what amounts to a relatively clean bill of Whitehall health for Huawei, whose executives are at pains to point out that it is a private company owned by its employees and spends some £2.4bn a year on components sourced from the United States.

After “some initial teething problems”, the company’s co-operation has been “exemplary”, according to Sir Kim, who added that vulnerabilities discovered by the Banbury team “could be explained as genuine design weaknesses or errors in coding practice”.

Experts point out that in the light of the revelations from NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden about the involvement of Britain and American in industrial-scale eavesdropping of telecommunications, it is rich for western governments to cast aspersions about Chinese actions.

Graeme Batsman, of cyber security company EncSec, said: “With most electronic products being made in China, there is the potential for anything to be spiked. But it is equally in the interests of others, say in the States, to seek to tarnish the reputation of Chinese brands.

“Huawei is used so much in the public sector it would be foolish to include back doors on purpose - everything gets tested. All hardware and software probably has design flaws. That is why you get companies like Microsoft or Java releasing frequent patches.”

The company’s shift in public perception from the jingoistic vanguard of a hi-tech “Red Menace” to the sort of cuddly global brand that puts its name on the shirts of premier football teams (it recently announced a sponsorship deal of AC Milan) nonetheless remains a work in progress.

It was earlier this year formally prevented by the Australian authorities from competing for a £24bn broadband network contract and The Cell is likely to remain in operation for some time to come.

Perhaps predictably, it is a situation upon which it is determined to put a brave face. A Huawei spokesman said: “We are pleased that the model of the UK government, the telecom operators and Huawei working together in an open and transparent way has been recognised as the best approach for providing reassurance on the security of products deployed in the UK.”

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 20 Dec 2013 02:37

http://www.firstpost.com/politics/devya ... 97201.html
lot of questions are being asked.. anyone can put together a comprehensive answer?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 20 Dec 2013 02:50

SaiK wrote:http://www.firstpost.com/politics/devya ... 97201.html
lot of questions are being asked.. anyone can put together a comprehensive answer?

Why didnt he throw in lack of toilets?

The above article is a good example of raising other issues when one is dealing forcefull with the issue at hand.
Besides in the diplomat's case there is direct link of US actions. And any fallout will be diplomatic at worst. Closure of mutaul consultates.
In 26/11 and Chinese incrusions there was risk of nuclear flashpoit taththe very same US would seize to castigate India.
Besides 26/11 was directly recced by a US citizen in US govt employment.

So does Mr Nayyar have objections to US being rebutted?

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 20 Dec 2013 10:24

http://www.mediacrooks.com/2013/12/amer ... rPHWicswR3
American Cookies

Let’s do a roll-call. When APJ Abdul Kalaam was searched and humiliated in the US the GOI and our MSM let it pass. It seems because APJ was a president nominated by the Opposition NDA govt his humiliation is tolerable. Because Subramaniam Swamy wrote a harsh article in India the doormats of Congress and Commies lobbied with Harvard to cancel his courses and get rid of him. Harvard obliged and what was the response of our MSM? They were absolutely thrilled that Swamy had been “snubbed” by Harvard. If you love an Indian being insulted by some entity in the US you will have more such experiences. The only time the MSM and GOI made a lot of noise is when Shahrukh Khan was held up. Oh but he’s a “sickular” guy and a Muslim so that is an affront to India. That’s our media morons. Our sick media and Congress also celebrated when Wharton cancelled a video conference of Narendra Modi because of lobbying by Commies again. Of course, Modi is not an Indian so such nonsense is okay with them.

The worst has to be the lying about why Modi’s entry was banned by the US. They claimed it was because of Gujarat 2002 when it was not (read here). But even if Gujarat 2002 was an issue why should Congress and MSM celebrate over and over again because US banned his entry? These morons don’t realise that even Gujarat 2002 is an internal matter and no business of the Americans. When the traitors celebrated that ban they celebrated an insult to India. Now they are in outrage mode over a woman who is accused of scams. It’s not just the US ban, when the UK invited Modi to speak at their parliament a bimbo like Nidhi Razdan (of NDTV, of course) was so angry that she trashed a British MP live on TV. Unfortunately for her the British MP schooled her on respecting India’s Supreme Court instead of blabbering like the idiot she is. And why does Modi bother the Western forces so much as he does the Congis and Indian MSM? Here’s a chilling story by Gautam Sen who is known to have insights and quite blunt with facts:

“The scale of the criminality of the UPA means they are unlikely to escape judicial sanction when they lose power. Knowledge of their financial crimes is largely in the public realm, but suspected acts of treason by prominent individuals are another matter and remain unexposed. The public clamour for judicial investigation and retribution for their criminality will become irresistible when they are unable to thwart the courts by misusing political power… The moment a new government comes to power in 2014, one entire floor of a five-star Delhi hotel, occupied by enigmatic foreigners, may be raided, although it is more than likely that it will be vacated before the election results are announced. These foreigners are local controllers of a number of NATO countries, straining to prevent Narendra Modi from ejecting their Indian nominees from political power in Delhi. There are good reasons to believe that they were involved in the attempt to assassinate Narendra Modi at the recent Bihar rally, because these countries retain intimate ties with jihadi groups worldwide. This is known from their role in facilitating terrorist outrages in Chechnya and from the presence of Pakistani Taliban trainers in Syria, who are assisting the NATO to overthrow president Bashar al-Assad”.

Sen uses the word “treason” to describe acts of some prominent individuals. I recommend read the whole story to get a grip on why Congis and MSM suck up to American and Western forces. Let’s not forget, these are the same folks who also invite other India-haters like Musharraf or Imran Khan frequently to their seminars. After Indian Jawans were killed at the LOC, Shashi Tharoor was grandly hosting an “Aman” debate between Indian and Paki journalists. These are the guys who are now outraging. When you insult India and Indians you open the door to others to the same. These MSM folks are actually probably ashamed to be even Indians. They are probably cursing internally and wish they were born as Americans or English or Pakistanis. There’s a reason why I call them “Foreigners dressed as Indians”. These same media morons also celebrated when Baba Ramdev was detained and harassed for 2 days at London’s Heathrow. That guy wears saffron. Anything that moves in saffron is an animal worth being treated as one. That is the principle of Congis and MSM.
This Devyani episode too shall pass and the Congress GOI and MSM will be back to sucking up to America. Servantile habits don’t disappear overnight. For a country surrounded by some very unfriendly neighbours India always remains under multiple security threats. There is no way a bunch of doormats for western powers in politics and in the news media can restore India’s pride and place in the world. It will take some patriots to replace these haters. RahulG did say “India is a computer”. Well, looks like we will need a new Patriotic software to clean up the American “cookies” in our establishment.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 20 Dec 2013 10:30

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home ... 662873.cms

Hard lesson from Devyani affair: India must grow its economy to be listened to
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US secretary of state John Kerry called national security adviser Shivshankar Menon with an expression of regret over the wrongful arrest of Devyani Khobragade. There's hope that the Devyani affair may blow over soon. The manner in which it has played out, however, raises disturbing questions about whether India is being stigmatised again for its poverty in the US and in the West - replacing the earlier, more hopeful narrative of its being a growing economy.
It's a moot question whether the US would have cast aside the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations - which forbids arrest of consular officials except for grave crimes (let alone subjecting them to felon-like treatment) - so blithely if a Chinese or Brazilian rather than Indian diplomat had been involved. So what is it that differentiates China or Brazil from India? One, it's well known they are no pushovers and will retaliate measure for measure. And two, they are perceived as growing economies in which the West has a stake, and therefore worth listening to. Contrast the casualness with which western institutions treat India. Much western newspaper coverage of the Devyani affair, for example, is replete with patronising generalisations about Indian society, reflecting the disdain of a high-wage economy for a low-wage society. As a result there is little reflection on the ludicrousness of the charge against Devyani, who is accused of paying below minimum wages because she didn't pay $4,500 a month to her maid. Since that amount exceeds average US per capita income, on that count most Americans are criminally exploited and their employers ought to be charged as felons!
There's a hard lesson in international affairs that India must take away from the Devyani affair. Even as India's leadership allowed its growth story to implode, the global economic downturn has placed the West in a sour mood and there's a nasty tendency to scapegoat Indians. Don't expect the West to play fair. Rather, India must match the West at its own game. That requires a relentless focus on the economy, instead of mucking around with identity politics which in the end impoverishes all religions and castes. Secondly, any privileges accorded to diplomats from the US and other countries must be on a strictly reciprocal basis, casting sentimental illusions aside. Those are the only ways the message that India is a serious country, not to be trifled with, will go home.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 20 Dec 2013 11:06

my own post on the Ind-US thread:

I have a bad feeling about this.

if India backs down without reciprocity, basically the Indian govt is telling the entire world that they can't even protect their own employees on foreign land who are there on diplomatic assignment, forget Indian citizens who are temporarily traveling or living abroad.

this is an unraveling of the Indian State itself, in many aspects. because India follows the Westminster system, the govt institutions are not prone to drastic changes like in US, in terms of leadership, if such a need is perceived.

the Indian State is much more "constant" in its very structure, so if the Indian State proves itself incapable of protecting one of their own diplomats, and further, if they don't even retaliate on equal terms, it is in essence an admission of erosion of power that is bestowed on every sovereign govt of the world.

this could be a sign of things to come if the State Apparatus of India doesn't take this for what it is: A CHALLENGE TO THE VERY LEGITIMACY OF THE INSTITUTIONS WHICH MAKE UP THE INDIAN STATE.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 20 Dec 2013 11:36

India cant come to age unless it go through Agni Pariksha and for this India need Purusharth & Parakram which the political leadership have been chipping away for last few decades.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 20 Dec 2013 11:56

also, don't forget that the Manhattan DA basically said they give no legitimacy to the Indian judicial system or process.

I hope the Indian anal-ysts are taking notice of that. it's a dangerous precedent. it's an undermining of the very STATE.

this isn't just about Devyani anymore. this is now an issue of the undermining of the INDIAN STATE by a foreign government.

I really do believe that if India doesn't respond in kind, it will be the beginning of the unraveling. it might not even be apparent for a while.

but we'll see every sundry corner of the globe basically not giving a jack-s*** for our interests or wishes.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 20 Dec 2013 12:20

Jhujar wrote:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home ... 662873.cms

Hard lesson from Devyani affair: India must grow its economy to be listened to
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So what is it that differentiates China or Brazil from India? One, it's well known they are no pushovers and will retaliate measure for measure. And two, they are perceived as growing economies in which the West has a stake, and therefore worth listening to. Contrast the casualness with which western institutions treat India. Much western newspaper coverage of the Devyani affair, for example, is replete with patronising generalisations about Indian society, reflecting the disdain of a high-wage economy for a low-wage society.

Another BS aimed at diverting attention from the parallel factors. China and Brazil are also low-wage countries. The retaliation is not always so forthcoming from China or Brazil either. USA regularly tries to teach Russia a lesson - through exactly similar rough treatment of Russian nationals.

Yes, the difference is that the US admin knows that Brazil and China are militarily rather ruthless, and do not hesitate to throw their military fist around in their own zone of "influence". They also serve as balancers of regional forces against those whom USA sees as greater enemies - like the more left-leaning neighbours of Brazil and Russia as a bit colder neighbour of China.

India is the balancer and perceived enemy of US friends in the entire IOR region. Whatever India does, India will always remain an enemy to every bit of nationhood in India's neighbourhood having a Muslim majority. China is USA's partial friend and useful regional tool and enemy of India. Pakistan is USA's friend, a rather naughty mistress but mistress still.

So most of the forces in US state structure who classify the world based on Abrahamic religion vs pagans, white vs non-white, Anglo vs Europe, and European vs non-European - will always be on the lookout to sour things for India. This might not be the entire regime's perspective, for if they deal with prostitutes of nations, they themselves naturally have grown accustomed to be the pimps - and where opportunism is concerned, pimps and prostitutes behave equally unethically. So anti-India lobby also has a pro-India lobby purely in terms of hedging of pimps bet. But pimps are always unreliable, arent they?

Military power, and the willingness to demonstrate from time to time, to strike fear of unacceptable losses - is the onlee lesson the pimp fears. China has done that.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 21 Dec 2013 02:56

Sir ji,
Real actionable Military power not possible unless Economic muscle behind it. Energy and productive, maufacturing Technologies remain India 's weakness . Till India take care of these basics, it will remain Paper Lion. IMHO, slapping the naive and sleepy is a blessing in disguise. Indians wont rally unless its emotional cause and nothing better than what is known in diplomatic circle as "perception" while dealing with India. Loose the perception, loose the plot, escpecially a badly planned plot. IF Indian had Nationalistic leadership then they would have diverted the anger toward EJs and other threats who serve Non Indian power centres while coddling with Sarkari Khotte. Pleading morality, equality is for weak. One should be in position where other /weaks plead to you for wrongs done to them. We should remember " Eh Atma Balheen Na Labyo".

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 21 Dec 2013 05:59

^^^They need to go together. What is used by the economy first and foremost line is to postpone and even damage, foreign policy, and military development towards not merely defence but crushing enemies in their own territories or retaliation for atrocities. On the excuse that such a move will bring "war" which will hurt economic prosperity. That is one immense vicious cycle of an argument to ensure that nor retaliation or expansion by military victory ever takes place.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 21 Dec 2013 07:58

Kissinger was suitably impressed that starving China could slaughter American troops in Korea as it did.

does not speak highly of either side but this is aclear case of military power being divorced from economic. Same with Vietnam. And once again the US has lost to Pakistan even as the latter suckles on its teat. They are vacating Afghanistan after all the sound and fury, having accomplished precisely nothing.

member_20292 · Post by **member_20292** » 21 Dec 2013 09:45

^^^

They gave India and Indian Kashmir a ten year respite from militancy.

Sound like a good achievement to me and for me.

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 21 Dec 2013 12:01

Indian Army gave and continues to give India a militancy free society, let this be very clear.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 21 Dec 2013 12:36

brihaspati wrote:^^^They need to go together. What is used by the economy first and foremost line is to postpone and even damage, foreign policy, and military development towards not merely defence but crushing enemies in their own territories or retaliation for atrocities. On the excuse that such a move will bring "war" which will hurt economic prosperity. That is one immense vicious cycle of an argument to ensure that nor retaliation or expansion by military victory ever takes place.

Bji,
I think the correct answer to these people who say that economy first(and therefore no war because war is bad for economy) is to point out that war can be very good for economy also. Some economies are actually war-based. So, its wrong to say that war is always bad for economy. And the best way to avoid war is to be prepared for it. Nothing invites invaders like a weak military capability or will.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 21 Dec 2013 15:47

Swami Ranganathananda: Advani writes in his book ("My Country, My Life") that he was greatly influenced by this R. K. Mission monk.