Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

archan · Post by **archan** » 18 Dec 2013 18:47

Sorry to be a pandu again, but why is the diplomat issue being discussed in this thread?

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 18 Dec 2013 19:15

This piece in news laundry is simply *brilliant*....

Its satire but with a twist (read till the end of the article and click on the link there to 'get' the whole thing...)

http://www.newslaundry.com/2013/12/modi-magic/

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 18 Dec 2013 19:43

Hari Seldon, can you please edit your post to include the link to the first article. This should be read first

http://www.newslaundry.com/2013/12/modi-magic/

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 18 Dec 2013 20:10

The wheels are turning faster now....
Aakar Patel must be feeling naked, cold & very primitive .

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 18 Dec 2013 21:06

If NM becomes PM, he should order true ICBM-TD, 8000 km SLBM-TD, bigger nuke submarines and two bills that clamp down on NGOs and EJs. That will say "thank you" to USA.

Saurabh makes a lot of money in the entertainment industry and has been close to CPI-M and TMC at different times. I doubted whether he will give up all this to join politics.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 18 Dec 2013 21:15

Supratik wrote:If NM becomes PM, he should order true ICBM-TD, 8000 km SLBM-TD, bigger nuke submarines and two bills that clamp down on NGOs and EJs. That will say "thank you" to USA.

Saurabh makes a lot of money in the entertainment industry and has been close to CPI-M and TMC at different times. I doubted whether he will give up all this to join politics.

Yep, I too thought that he would be ruffling local political feathers if he chose lotus' side. But, then, he could have made it up at national level whatever he loses at local level. He might have been offered sports-ministry or BCCI prez-giri or some such thing. And he comes across as someone who is not shy to take a risk. So, I expected him to take the plunge. Actually, I would not rule out him joining it even at this stage. The situation maybe similar to Yeddy. There may be some courting going on and eventually, he may decide to take the plunge.

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 18 Dec 2013 21:26

Hari Seldon wrote:This piece in news laundry is simply *brilliant*....

Its satire but with a twist (read till the end of the article and click on the link there to 'get' the whole thing...)

http://www.newslaundry.com/2013/12/modi-magic/

Reminds me of something our own Dr. Shiv might have written

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 18 Dec 2013 21:28

NM will have to act quickly and efficiently. No doubt NGO's and EJ's and Islamic charities will be targeted ruthlessly. I am sure that the Buddha will smile again if the thermonuclear test fizzled. Targeting the US with 75 ICBM's with a a goody bag of HBGV and MIRV with decoys and targeting their installations in our region will make them think twice before attempting to dictate anything to us.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 18 Dec 2013 21:31

Rudradev wrote:
Hari Seldon wrote:This piece in news laundry is simply *brilliant*....

Its satire but with a twist (read till the end of the article and click on the link there to 'get' the whole thing...)

http://www.newslaundry.com/2013/12/modi-magic/
Reminds me of something our own Dr. Shiv might have written

++1.

Vamsee · Post by **Vamsee** » 18 Dec 2013 21:45

Hari Seldon wrote:This piece in news laundry is simply *brilliant*....

Its satire but with a twist (read till the end of the article and click on the link there to 'get' the whole thing...)

http://www.newslaundry.com/2013/12/modi-magic/

This is too good. Need to spread it far & wide

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 18 Dec 2013 22:03

I didn't get that satire. Why is it funny, saars? It seems its a bunch of lines from various rants of Bekar Patel. But, what is funny or satirical?

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 18 Dec 2013 22:09

johneeG wrote: I didn't get that satire. Why is it funny, saars? It seems its a bunch of lines from various rants of Bekar Patel. But, what is funny or satirical?

Don't find it funny. Kudos for going through all 79 links though.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 18 Dec 2013 22:10

Its satire on Bekaar patel. they sued his own words to show it as praise from him.
Like a doctored CD.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 18 Dec 2013 22:18

ramana wrote:Its satire on Bekaar patel. they sued his own words to show it as praise from him.
Like a doctored CD.

I didn't go through entire article, just read some excerpts and it seemed like just another rant of Bekar.

RoyG wrote:
johneeG wrote: I didn't get that satire. Why is it funny, saars? It seems its a bunch of lines from various rants of Bekar Patel. But, what is funny or satirical?
Don't find it funny. Kudos for going through all 79 links though.

When I first followed Hari saar's link, I could hardly understand what it meant. Then, I clicked around a bit and came to the original article. Didn't follow all the links. Just clicked some of those and headlines of some of those rants itself are cringe worthy.

But as someone commented, that author actually went through so many of bekar patel's articles! Bekar must be really feeling good about himself that someone actually takes his rants seriously enough to make a satire out of it.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 18 Dec 2013 22:36

At least Aaakar takes criticism lightly. Many times, I had commented him as Beekar and survived in Firstpost. But once I commented Akshay Mishra as Bikshaya Mix, kaboom, I had been banned from Firstpost.

disha · Post by **disha** » 19 Dec 2013 01:07

johneeG wrote: I didn't get that satire. Why is it funny, saars? It seems its a bunch of lines from various rants of Bekar Patel. But, what is funny or satirical?

It is like several BlowToModi articles collected and actual sentences including punctuations and all without any modifications are spliced together to create another BlowToModi article.

It is a satire on the writer itself to show that there is nothing new other than twists to BlowToModi and DynastyAradhna in the journos writing capabilities.

For example., there is an entire para on how NaMo is unfit to be a PM because NaMo does not know English, did not have formal education but obtained a degree via correspondence (what is wrong? the people of the book has been studying religion over a millenia!)., how awful it will be if he sits across Obama and cannot converse in English ityaadi - and this para was compiled from actual sentences from articles written by Vikaar Patel.

The newslaundry article is very high satire. Lot of hardwork went into it and is very creative.

BTW, if you are going to read FirstPost., read only R. Jagannathan's articles. Rest like Aakar Patel, Akshay Mishra, Lakshmi Behenji Chowdary are just part of eNREGA crowd that keeps the firstpost alive with funds from CongIs.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 19 Dec 2013 03:13

In four days, Modi will address crowds in Mumbai.

Expect him to bring up the treatment meted out to Maharashtra beti and lack of effective response from UPA govt.

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 19 Dec 2013 03:23

Looking forward to see what kind of crowds Modi draws in Mumbai. I have high hopes from the Gujarati community. Also hope SS backs him to the hilt and exercise some of their own crowd pulling power.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 19 Dec 2013 03:23

Now that I am in Mumbai I may attend. Second one after Hyderabad. Will have to see where it is.

Even money bags in Mumbai do not like mafia now. Had lot of interactions with people all but one support Modi.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 19 Dec 2013 03:40

Which one is the hold out?
You can email me or ramaY

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 19 Dec 2013 06:34

I wont quit politicking

he also has inner voice borrowed from termite queen.
brilliant so says loh purush ji.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 19 Dec 2013 08:03

ramana wrote:Which one is the hold out?
You can email me or ramaY

Will do.

saumitra_j · Post by **saumitra_j** » 19 Dec 2013 10:06

From Gautam Sen at newsinsight:

London: It has not been understood by many that Narendra Modi poses the gravest challenge to the highest officials of the Indian State since independence. The animus against him isn’t political at all, because even as India’s rulers accuse him of being uncaring for the poor and the minorities, they shed de rigueur crocodile tears themselves for these sections of people, while living in sickening luxury. As for the secular garb of the United Progressive Alliance and allied parties, it is utterly spurious, and scarcely deludes those that it hopes to.

Nor is their hysterical reaction to Narendra Modi due to mere personal distaste, although there is more than a whiff of class and caste disdain in how they view him. India’s hypocritical and nakedly self-seeking supposed liberals surreptitiously harbour such sentiments. In fact, the alarm Narendra Modi has precipitated, oscillating alternately between gloom and panic, is actually a product of circumstances. He is a complete outsider, poised to come to power without a prior compact with his predecessors that some things will remain inviolable and hidden from view. Such an understanding seems to have existed earlier between the National Democratic Alliance and the United Progressive Alliance, which someone else in the Bharatiya Janata Party, other than Narendra Modi, would perhaps tender. This is the raison d’etre of poisonous Digvijay Singh’s effusive recommendation of the Bharatiya Janata Party’s parliamentary leader as the National Democratic Alliance nominee for prime minister.

Narendra Modi has apparently declined to offer these usual routine undertakings of immunity, although it might have been felt he would do so because a peaceful life could be useful to confront the dreadful legacy he will inherit. More shockingly for those accustomed to instinctive deference and the enjoyment of privilege, regardless of which political party governs, they can find little to blackmail him with to assure a self-denying abeyance.

The fabrications over an alleged fake encounter with the known terrorist, Ishrat Jahan, offered no purchase although the highest officials of State pretty much dismantled India’s intelligence apparatus in a vain attempt to implicate Modi. The contention that Gujarat had not prospered was quite incredible and some of the evidence so plainly false that they sought to do their worst by treachery instead. In the process they precipitated fratricidal discord between India’s premier security agencies. Their unconcern with the consequences for India’s security suggested key decision-makers were serving foreign masters. These same anti-nationals have been left cradling the imbroglio of an alleged stalking episode that can only be described as absurd.

The scale of the criminality of the United Progressive Alliance means they are unlikely to escape judicial sanction when they lose power. Knowledge of their financial crimes is largely in the public realm, but suspected acts of treason by prominent individuals are another matter and remain unexposed. The public clamour for judicial investigation and retribution for their criminality will become irresistible when they are unable to thwart the courts by misusing political power. This is the motive for the Congress party seeking to hobble Narendra Modi with the fewest possible Lok Sabha seats. It will ostensibly make him dependent on parliamentary allies against whom the United Progressive Alliance already possesses compromising material, forcing them to demand his forbearance. They appear to have nothing of consequence on Mamata Banerjee, whose support Modi cannot presume, but they almost certainly have enough on one other regional leader on whom Modi’s political survival in Parliament may depend.

The bluff and bravado of some United Progressive Alliance ministers, as they sink to the lowest depths of self-abasement in their sycophancy, now betrays real anxiety. The rout in the assembly elections has stripped their sombre obsequiousness of conviction. The pompous Mani Shankar Aiyar’s toe-curling fawning in a recent interview revealed him as the utter reprobate he is, all the specious repartee notwithstanding. Yet he and his venal ilk must know that they will not be so much as permitted to enter any Lake Como luxurious villa or mansion in London’s billionaire row, Kensington Palace Gardens, which their principals may acquire to flee with their ill-gotten wealth. The local detritus will be left to ponder why life’s certainties turn out to be so much sand in a human fist.

The moment a new government comes to power in 2014, one entire floor of a five-star Delhi hotel, occupied by enigmatic foreigners, may be raided, although it is more than likely that it will be vacated before the election results are announced. These foreigners are local controllers of a number of North Atlantic Treaty Organization countries, straining to prevent Narendra Modi from ejecting their Indian nominees from political power in Delhi. There are good reasons to believe that they were involved in the attempt to assassinate Narendra Modi at the recent Bihar rally, because these countries retain intimate ties with jihadi groups worldwide. This is known from their role in facilitating terrorist outrages in Chechnya and from the presence of Pakistani Taliban trainers in Syria, who are assisting the North Atlantic Treaty Organization to overthrow president Bashar al-Assad.

These imperialist powers are finding it intolerable that Narendra Modi will wish to restore India’s once jealously defended autonomy, and he will doubtlessly begin by snapping their insidious links with the establishment facilitated by the predecessor regime. This is why elections to the Lok Sabha in 2014 will be the moment of India’s rebirth, equal in significance to the transfer of power in 1947. One of the first tasks of a new government will have to be to appoint a high-powered judicial commission to examine the gross acts of illegality committed by the United Progressive Alliance, not least attempts to frame political opponents, as well as examine evidence of high treason.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 19 Dec 2013 19:11

Puratchi Thalaivi has just declared her intention to be in the race for PMship. Time for TNwaali to become PM. Breaking right now on Headlines Today.

AIADMK: why not a PM from TN.

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 19 Dec 2013 19:20

Delhi's electricity consumption is about 1800 units per person per year i.e. 150 units per person per month. So consumption of 2 crore people for 5 months will be about = 1500 crore units for 5 months . To bring down price by Rs 3 per unit for 4 months, MNC-owners somehow need to supply about Rs 4500 crore. And then then need to spend Rs 50 crore per constituency in paid-media, MNC-owners need to come up with Rs 50 * 500 = Rs 25000 crore.So

If MNC-owners assist AK , and AK is able to bring down electricity rates by say 50% or even 30% in Delhi for 5 months, AND
If MNC-owners assist AK , and AK is able to bring down water rates by say 50% or even 30% in Delhi for 5 months , AND
If MNC-owners provide softwares to run govt and improve transparency etc , which will reduce corruption in Delhi ,
if MNC-owners spend Rs 50 crore worth of paid-media publicity per constituency for every AK's candidate

then how many votes AK will get across India? = How many NaMo votes will he cut across India?

Now are MNC-owners capable of providing money equal to 50% of electricity bills + water bills for 5 months? Can MNC-owners fudge the audit reports by bribing auditors that 50% cut in bills is possible? Can MNC-owners bribe regulator to reduce prices? After 5 months, pries may double what is now . But can MNC-owners manage to keep the prices low for 5 months?

AAP is more than enough supply of unpaid volunteers across India, about 2000 per loksabha constituency. Many persons with excellent image are queuing to join AAP and want to get AAP ticket.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 19 Dec 2013 19:35

Narendra Modi ‏@narendramodi 2m

Best tribute to Gandhi ji on his 150th birth anniversary in 2019 would be a mass movement which will create a clean India by then.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 Dec 2013 19:43

Air of victory around Narendra Modi even as Shivraj Singh Chouhan emerges as quiet alternative

As he strides from one jam-packed rally to the next, an air of victory surrounds Gujarat Chief Minister and BJP prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi, but there seems to be a quiet alternative emerging to lead the country in the form of Madhya Pradesh Chief Minister Shivraj Singh Chouhan.

Modi is unquestionably the man to beat as the ruling Congress party, led by the Nehru-Gandhi dynasty, stumbles towards a vote that opinion polls show it will lose

Modi's BJP is tipped to win the election, but it may not get an outright majority, and he may be unacceptable to potential coalition partners

<snip>

For now, Modi is on a roll, tapping into public anger with the Congress Party after years of corruption scandals, stubborn inflation and dwindling economic growth

But, privately, party leaders concede that the BJP may not be able to form a government with Modi as prime minister if it wins less than 180 of the 543 elected seats in the lower house of parliament. If it falls short of that number, it might have to ditch him and find another candidate

MSM at its best ..

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 19 Dec 2013 19:46

pathetic.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 19 Dec 2013 20:03

What do you expect from the paid media. That, they will openly acknowledge that Modi's moment has arrived. No, even when he is the PM, they will keep on attacking him. While justifying it in the name of freedom of the press.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 19 Dec 2013 21:25

So where are the JJ supporters of this forum, eh? Or is this all so Chankian/Chunkian (what is the right spelling)? She will first get TN excited, get all the 39+1 seats, and then strike a grand post-election alliance with BJP?

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 661724.cms

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/chen ... 31959.html

At a general meeting of the party in Chennai, it was resolved that there have been PMs from other states like Uttar Pradesh, Punjab, Gujarat, etc, and this is the time when somebody from Tamil Nadu must lead the country.

Let me again warn you about Subramanian Swamy. He is a snake, mercurial and should be kept at the door-steps and not allowed in any of the secret chambers. Just because he is useful as a barking dog (like Digvijay Singh is for Congress), does not mean he is trust worthy. These are some giant backstabbers (if not mentally unstable people). He moves with the shifting sands and winds. He might be the greatest Hindutva guy (which I doubt), he is totally unreliable.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 19 Dec 2013 21:54

SwamyGji,
I cant decipher the connection between ADMK's logic and Dr Swamys alleged reptilian qualities.

Dr Swamy has his limitations with tamizh oratory and even more severe limitations regarding his popularity and vote catching ability in TN.But he can be a very good strategist and efficient cabinet minister.I dont think Yashwant Sinha,Chidambaram,Arun Jaitley,Jaswant Singh,Dr MMS,Tewari,"Aiyar",Jairam Ramesh,Jayanthi Natarajan,Kapil Sibal are popular leaders.

And why is he a snake? I see him as a nationalist without much of a base in TN.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 19 Dec 2013 22:05

Pratyush wrote:What do you expect from the paid media. That, they will openly acknowledge that Modi's moment has arrived. No, even when he is the PM, they will keep on attacking him. While justifying it in the name of freedom of the press.

When they are in power, the secularatti are one! When they lose power, then it is each for himself. Then the rule is

Aisa koi saga nahin, jisko secular ne thaga nahin!

Each one is corrupt. Each one has skeletons in one's cupboards. Each one has a nerve point where it hurts. So this is a game NaMo too can play.

All he has to do is to pressurize one to speak against the other. He can bring the whole secular house down with allegations and counter-allegations.

Media men are going to be very vulnerable to other media-men. Tejpals would be roaming the streets without a chaddi!

Before NaMo goes to 2019, he can make sure that there isn't a single secular standing.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 19 Dec 2013 22:06

Saar, as many in TN would say "Karunanidhi is better, because one knows exactly what he will think and say. Amma is unreliable". So is the case with Su Swamy. Somebody recently said to me "We know Doggy Singh is a dog, so we can shoo him away. But Swamy? He says one thing here, one thing there....and god knows what he will say next. He supports JJ sometimes, speaks against her, supports her......"

There is no comparison, I bring both people in one topic because sometimes the non-state population comes to know about an individual mainly from the media reports. For example, I know about Goel or Harshavardhan based on what is being said. So is the case with Mamta, Laloo ityadi. Sure we might have a few friends who will provide us inputs. But when you hail from a state and understand what the locals discuss, or if you lived in a state for sometime during the individuals' run then it adds more meaning.

Remember the Chandralekha and Swamy against JJ, before Swamy became a friend of JJ. Remember Swamy when he had tea with Sonia and JJ bringing down BJP government?

You should also read his book "Hindu Under Siege" to understand how he jumps up and down. Frothing personality like him are not reliable. Best suited in the trenches and not in the backroom. Put Arnab, Digvijay Singh and Su Swamy in a room, and I will pay to watch that show

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 19 Dec 2013 22:10

What has he said thats inconsistent.for sometime now,hes very consistent-he supports economic reforms and Hindu nationalism.He talks very little about JJ nowadays.You are talking about Treta Yuga (1995-1999).much water has flowed through cooum,vaigai,yamuna,adayar etc

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 19 Dec 2013 22:12

X-posting from USA thread
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 7#p1561227
Shouldn't NaMo clearly indicate and point out stretegic GO SLOW by the current establishment?
Including
1) Gap in procurement of artillery, ammunition, etc
2) Shutting down coal power plants, oil exploration not followed up in Myanmar
3) Lethargy in extending strategic partnership with Russia by opening up defense deals with USA
4) Foreign relations with neighbors in mess, internal security agencies working against each other
5) Pakis getting away after printing Indian currency and racket behind it
6) Infiltration from across borders

Ashok Sarraff · Post by **Ashok Sarraff** » 19 Dec 2013 22:14

SwamyG wrote:Put Arnab, Digvijay Singh and Su Swamy in a room, and I will pay to watch that show

Sir you'll have people from East, North, and South, need someone from West too for national integration. I propose Rajdeep Sardarddesai in the room.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 19 Dec 2013 22:16

http://www.narendramodi.in/shri-narendr ... han-singh/

And picked from wiki:

"Khan Sahib!, I know Pandit Ram Prasad better than you, he is not such a person as you say but even if you are right then I am also quite sure that a Hindu India will be much better than your British India to whom you are serving like a servant."

.........................................

Some of you would like it. hein ji.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 19 Dec 2013 23:25

SwamyG, One way of putting it is "If you have rat problem get a cat not a snake!"

Apropos Subbu Swamy and JJ. They already have track record of pulling down the NDA govt during the Kargil Crisis. I still am not sure if they did it for external actors like US.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 20 Dec 2013 01:25

Swamy is a crook. He pulled down the NDA knowing full well that the Congress would come to power afterwards. He's a snake.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 20 Dec 2013 02:29

not sure whetehr this was attributed to him or photoshopped.
anyway looks nice and cool, increases his aura.

unlike pappu and his ma