Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 Dec 2013 13:34

Rightly so .. Give the India gov time to either deliver or fail on its promise to restore the dignity and get an apology from the US lest he be accused of jumping the gun and politicizing this sensitive issue.

If munna mohan's GOI fails on either count after a reasonable time say 2-4 weeks he can then paint the GOI as weak and subservient to US interests.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 19 Dec 2013 14:22

merlin wrote:
Besides not meeting the US delegation, has Modi done anything worthwhile on this issue? I suspect not.

What is it that he should do?? it is a foreign relations matter not the domain of States. He can't expel cousulars and diplomates from Gujarat. That is not in his power. And when Delhi ( ruled directly by congis and Shinde (MHA with DP under their control)) is not doing anything worthwhile do you expect Gujarat police to raise and ante?? I think he has done what he can do at this time and has forced that congis to show at least pseudo balls

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 19 Dec 2013 14:26

Anyone knows what AAP and AK has to say on DK episode , strip searching, cavity search etc. Why is he silent on this?? Too busy trying to get congi support without looking like so.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 19 Dec 2013 14:30

ramana wrote:Werent our experts predicting this is the end state sought by the Congress in Bihar a few months ago?

NiKuamma will be Orphan terrible in Bihar Politics. RJD will not rise and BJP will gain good number of seats. NaMo has left good impressions all around last time making NuKuamma fulminate.

merlin · Post by **merlin** » 19 Dec 2013 14:37

chaanakya wrote:
merlin wrote:
Besides not meeting the US delegation, has Modi done anything worthwhile on this issue? I suspect not.
What is it that he should do?? it is a foreign relations matter not the domain of States. He can't expel cousulars and diplomates from Gujarat. That is not in his power. And when Delhi ( ruled directly by congis and Shinde (MHA with DP under their control)) is not doing anything worthwhile do you expect Gujarat police to raise and ante?? I think he has done what he can do at this time and has forced that congis to show at least pseudo balls

Speaking about it is also considered a form of doing. He can speak against the US behaviour and more importantly against GoI's spinelessness.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 19 Dec 2013 14:44

I think he has done that and will be , hopefully, doing it when next round of rallies start. Remember how he took to task and one journo listened to Nawaz's comment of Dehaati Aurat. He will make statement and gain votes too.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 19 Dec 2013 14:58

chaanakya wrote:
merlin wrote:
Besides not meeting the US delegation, has Modi done anything worthwhile on this issue? I suspect not.
What is it that he should do?? it is a foreign relations matter not the domain of States. He can't expel cousulars and diplomates from Gujarat. That is not in his power. And when Delhi ( ruled directly by congis and Shinde (MHA with DP under their control)) is not doing anything worthwhile do you expect Gujarat police to raise and ante?? I think he has done what he can do at this time and has forced that congis to show at least pseudo balls

Yashwant Sinha suggestion on Section 377 coverage is good. One Ivor Soans believes that would make us Talibunni.

http://www.firstpost.com/india/how-abou ... =hp-footer

If Gujarat has consular offices, then Gujarat police can check the people out for compliance with that 377 wala law. Get montly certificates and affidavits signed saying they are in compliance with all the national and state laws with specific reference to 377. Host them on some prominent .nic site. Just kidding

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But I doubt if NaMo's tweet was meant to put pressure. Politicians cannot, not talk to each other. They do actually sort out things covering each others back. GoI not knowing anything about this and this being a bolt from the blue for GoI, would not seem a convincing narration. The whisking away of the family and their dumping back in India, notwithstanding.

BJP is not being vocal about this, at least not at this moment. So I suspect they want to have Congress dig its own grave. Alternatively they could be actually interested in cooperating on this one. If the first is true then at some point when Congress lead govt has failed they will criticize bitterly. But if they are interested in cooperation they will not criticize later on and can be expected to put out one or two clear worded messages in the initial stages, saying they support the babudom on this.

Congress on the other hand can prompt BJP and affiliates to stage some demonstration if they want to confront. If however they do not then they can be expected to do the usual.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 19 Dec 2013 16:10

Arun Jaitley ‏@arunjaitley 9m

Is the Congress likely to become the B-Team of the AAP in Delhi

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 19 Dec 2013 16:27

saravana wrote:Agreed ravi_g. The years wasted under tepid central BJP leadership is the cause. None of the exposes or protests that caught the public eye can be credited to BJP. The leader of opposition is reduced to giving fine speech in the Parliament and getting brownie points after ceding space.

True. But without that the anointment of Modi due to the overwhelming approval of the BJP supporters may not have been a forgone conclusion.

As they same, cometh the hour cometh the man.

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 19 Dec 2013 18:39

Delhi's consumption is about 1800 units per person per year i.e. 150 units per person per month. So consumption of 2 crore people for 5 months will be about = 1500 crore units . To bring down price by Rs 3 per unit for 4 months, MNC-owners somehow need to supply about Rs 4500 crore. And then then need to spend Rs 50 crore per constituency in paid-media, MNC-owners need to come up with Rs 50 * 500 = Rs 25000 crore.So

If MNC-owners assist AK , and AK is able to bring down electricity rates by say 50% or even 30% in Delhi for 5 months, AND
If MNC-owners assist AK , and AK is able to bring down water rates by say 50% or even 30% in Delhi for 5 months , AND
If MNC-owners provide softwares to run govt and improve transparency etc , which will reduce corruption in Delhi ,
if MNC-owners spend Rs 50 crore worth of paid-media publicity per constituency for every AK's candidate

then how many votes AK will get across India? = How many NaMo votes will he cut across India?

Now are MNC-owners capable of providing money equal to 50% of electricity bills + water bills for 5 months? Can MNC-owners fudge the audit reports by bribing auditors that 50% cut in bills is possible? Can MNC-owners bribe regulator to reduce prices? After 5 months, pries may double what is now . But can MNC-owners manage to keep the prices low for 5 months?

AAP is more than enough supply of unpaid volunteers across India, about 2000 per loksabha constituency. Many persons with excellent image are queuing to join AAP and want to get AAP ticket.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 19 Dec 2013 18:48

When are the elections? March, April, May, June?

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 19 Dec 2013 18:52

Rahul Mehta wrote:then how many votes AK will get across India? = How many NaMo votes will he cut across India?

Time has run out! Perhaps only a steep fall in prices of household commodities could change the narrative of the election a bit, otherwise from now on its only politics.

merlin · Post by **merlin** » 19 Dec 2013 19:01

It has started - I see an AAP poster with our man AK-47 from our office

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 19 Dec 2013 19:02

JOTHISH NAIR ‏@jothishnair1010 2h

BJP can win 5 seats in Kerala if the party uses Modi wave effectively. Thiruvananthapuram, Pathanamthitta, Alappuzha, Palakkad & Kasaragod

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 19 Dec 2013 19:11

Puratchi Thalaivi has just declared her intention to be in the race for PMship. Time for TNwaali to become PM. Breaking right now on Headlines Today.

AIADMK: why not a PM from TN.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 Dec 2013 19:37

Times Now > Sonia for RJD and Rahul for Nikumma in Bihar .. If CON ties with RJD then Nikumma ka to baaj gaya.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 19 Dec 2013 20:11

During my commute back from the office this evening. I had the opportunity to interact with certain individuals in the Delhi Metro. In the short journey of under 10 minutes. I got the feel that a lot of them had voted for the AAP. Hoping for some change in the political atmosphere in this nation. The level of optimism was touching in its innocence.

The curious fact was that, they were not angry at the lack of govt formation by the AAP. They were also suggesting that the lack of govt formation from AAP was justified in the light of the "trap", set by the BJP.

The other thing was the == between the INC and the BJP.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 19 Dec 2013 20:25

The Congi gravy train plus the education system with JNU is very anti Hindu in Delhi. SO BJP takes a beating due to leftist education, the sae crow thinks AAP can deliver on its promises.

Ashok Sarraff · Post by **Ashok Sarraff** » 19 Dec 2013 20:28

If Amma is serious about her PM-ship potential then BJP should be open to forge alliances with others in TN as members were suggesting here.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 19 Dec 2013 20:32

how ??? then where does NaMo stand ??? 2 PM candidate ???

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 19 Dec 2013 20:43

Pratyush wrote:During my commute back from the office this evening. I had the opportunity to interact with certain individuals in the Delhi Metro. In the short journey of under 10 minutes. I got the feel that a lot of them had voted for the AAP. Hoping for some change in the political atmosphere in this nation. The level of optimism was touching in its innocence.

The curious fact was that, they were not angry at the lack of govt formation by the AAP. They were also suggesting that the lack of govt formation from AAP was justified in the light of the "trap", set by the BJP.

The other thing was the == between the INC and the BJP.

This equal-equal is really strong among Delhi citizens. It has to do with BJP controlling New Delhi Municipal Council as well as with Delhi BJP legacy and D4. The mayajaal of Delhi MSM is incredible.

Delhi BJP really needs to make the issue of Sonia Gandhi's 2005 intervention in stopping Arvind Kejriwal's transfer outside Delhi a major debating point.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 19 Dec 2013 20:55

The gravy train is the mail pushing crowd and this crowd is not leftist. They just want to feel good and equitable about themselves. The poor man who can be stupefied by leftism is actually living quite a hard life in Delhi. AK-47 has been able to run with the hares and hunt with the hounds only because, as I think KaranM ji said, he has had the the media used for him cleverly. Campaign in Muslim localities was about 'Muslamano ki akhri umeed' while in hindu localities was about Congress == BJP. But this strategy is too media dependent and too feel-good dependent. That is where the opening is. Tell the whole world how they would feel if AK-47 joins congress nationwide. That would take the feel-good dependency and turn it from pro-populism to pro-nationlism. Note how Gehlot lost in his own words. The media dependency can be taken care of by using the media itself. This is where the urban BJP sympathizer can help with facts and rhetoric. Good thing also is that most of India is not media dependent even today. What the Congress and AAP has been able to do is to use a lot of surrogate campaigning. That Anil Kapoor serial. The claps for the clear lie of online donations and a lot more. This requires people to be told how the system is being misused. Most people are not trained as accountants and hence can be easily fooled by such sleight.

I do take on AAP supporters head on. But I do that only because I like confrontation. That however is not going to yield results because as i said earlier this is an issue of emotions. Logic will work with only about a third to half of the voters. The rest need a counter emotional issue. Lets see if BJP can cook up something.

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RahulMehta ji, thanks for the calculations. But these seem grossly on the higher side. The subsidy for the electricity will come from the state budget direct. The country will bear that. Not the MNC owners. You and I will be paying for that.

The campaigning per seat was indicated by Manish Tiwari at about 20 Cr INR for some Punjab MP seat. Additionally we must understand that even Congress understands the Media dependency of AK-47 so they will likely give him only the 5-10 urban centres or semi-urban centres, with a total of 35-70 seats to show his circus. So that could be like 700 to 1400 Crores.

Furthermore you must have seen how the Delhi campaign was done. With only 20 Cr white money they covered the whole city. The black money content I suspect at around a 50 Crore per TV channel cash payout on strike date for 3 channels. So about 170 crores per urban centre. So that could be 850 Cr to 1700 Cr. for about 5-10 populations centres that have media dependency.

I think AK-47 would target - Mumbai, Banglore, Delhi, probably Calcutta and a few cities in UP, Haryana, Punjab.

Congress and its raktabeej woud target the rest.

Ashok Sarraff · Post by **Ashok Sarraff** » 19 Dec 2013 21:01

krishnan wrote:how ??? then where does NaMo stand ??? 2 PM candidate ???

NaMo would be BJP/NDA candidate, Amma (if she is serious) would be the 'Third Front' candidate. Thus, we will have three PM candidates in the fray: NM, Amma, Pappu. Initially it looked like (to me) that Amma would support NM/NDA and thus I was arguing that forging alliances with parties other than AmmaDMK would be self-defeating. But if Amma is serious about her PM-ship potential, then she is a competitor to NM, and it is only logical that one undercuts any competitor by forging alliances with others.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 19 Dec 2013 21:04

BJP is already working on a non-DMK, non-AIADMK alliance. It has already tied up with Vaiko's MDMK, and is said to have reached an agreement with PMK. DMDK is being actively wooed, and I am hearing noises about KMK going with this alliance. This makes for a very formidable combination.

Here is an article that expresses what is happening in TN,and it corroborates what I have been told by the BJP leaders from south TN.

http://centreright.in/2013/12/forces-dr ... rMWxJX8t0g

Here is another article along the same lines.

http://www.niticentral.com/2013/10/25/f ... 50549.html

There is a genuine sympathy for the BJP in south and western TN, due to the serial killings of the BJP workers, and If this alliance materialises, the BJP and its allies are easily going to get around 20-25% of the vote in Tamil Nadu, and I suspect, many of the south TN seats. If the BJP ups the ante by fielding a couple of national leaders from Tamil Nadu (not SS - he is not popular for his SL stand, but maybe Nirmala Sitharaman?). Most vitally, for the first time, the BJP will develop a cadre of its own in TN. This is crucial, not only for making the BJP a viable alternative on its own, but also because a viable BJP cadre is the first step in countering EJs. If you look at the map of India, EJs are strong only where the BJP is weak. This is one reason why I am so insistent that the BJP not be dependent on allies for anything much. I had much faith in CBN, but he failed signally in taking on the EJs in Andhra (for all the abuse heaped on YSR, CBN is equally culpable and EJ activity during his rule was just as strong). Now, he is going to suffer for it with the bulk of the EJs going with Jagan.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 19 Dec 2013 21:09

Ashok Sarraff wrote:
krishnan wrote:how ??? then where does NaMo stand ??? 2 PM candidate ???
NaMo would be BJP/NDA candidate, Amma (if she is serious) would be the 'Third Front' candidate. Thus, we will have three PM candidates in the fray: NM, Amma, Pappu. Initially it looked like (to me) that Amma would support NM/NDA and thus I was arguing that forging alliances with parties other than AmmaDMK would be self-defeating. But if Amma is serious about her PM-ship potential, then she is a competitor to NM, and it is only logical that one undercuts any competitor by forging alliances with others.

There are actually five PM candidates already. NM, Pappu, AK, JJ, and Maya.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 19 Dec 2013 21:11

RajeshA wrote:
Pratyush wrote:During my commute back from the office this evening. I had the opportunity to interact with certain individuals in the Delhi Metro. In the short journey of under 10 minutes. I got the feel that a lot of them had voted for the AAP. Hoping for some change in the political atmosphere in this nation. The level of optimism was touching in its innocence.

The curious fact was that, they were not angry at the lack of govt formation by the AAP. They were also suggesting that the lack of govt formation from AAP was justified in the light of the "trap", set by the BJP.

The other thing was the == between the INC and the BJP.
This equal-equal is really strong among Delhi citizens. It has to do with BJP controlling New Delhi Municipal Council as well as with Delhi BJP legacy and D4. The mayajaal of Delhi MSM is incredible.

Delhi BJP really needs to make the issue of Sonia Gandhi's 2005 intervention in stopping Arvind Kejriwal's transfer outside Delhi a major debating point.

RajeshA ji the Delhi BJP in MCD has been reasonable that is why they kept getting elected. The ground got skewed when the Congress laid the astro turf of trifurcation of MCD. That messed up the workings somewhat. AK had been cussing and ranting against BJP MCD for about an year but still BJP won. The problem is not BJP performance in office. It was the BJP performance in the public spaces and on public issues of emotional importance. And I suspect BJP Delhi knows this, which is why they did try to join in into the various protests but everytime the protestors would do some violence it was the BJP that got the rap for it. Exhibit - Nirbhaya protests.

The == being done is because deep down all of delhi has realized that there is something amiss. They had voted against Congress overwhelmingly like in the other 3 states. But they still ended up with Congress only because they allowed themselves to be fooled by AK-47. Now the shock of the betrayal is so big that they are taking the easy way out by justifying their stupidity.

In such a case BJP must tread carefully because this model will be used in other cities too. And for an emotional problem a preventive campaign is better then a curative one. This would be good for other cities. In Delhi the additional ingredient required is that BJP must emotionally tug at the hearts of the voters who had turned anti-congress and tell them WITHOUT BRAVADO that they have a duty to kill this B-Team because this B-Team has betrayed them. This can be done only from the high pedestal of an anti-corruption plank. I would have wished for getting Anna, BR & General to stand on the same plank. Unfortunately for us BR and Anna may not be on the same wavelength and the Gen. may be on the front looking out for some more time. So the best is to have BR come in again at all places wherever AK-47 turns up. Let the world see AK-47 target the Bhagwa directly. BR off course should remain non committal on all political parties including BJP. Only that he should be helping people reach a clearer mind.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 19 Dec 2013 21:29

nageshks wrote:BJP is already working on a non-DMK, non-AIADMK alliance. It has already tied up with Vaiko's MDMK, and is said to have reached an agreement with PMK. DMDK is being actively wooed, and I am hearing noises about KMK going with this alliance. This makes for a very formidable combination.

Here is an article that expresses what is happening in TN,and it corroborates what I have been told by the BJP leaders from south TN.

http://centreright.in/2013/12/forces-dr ... rMWxJX8t0g

Here is another article along the same lines.

http://www.niticentral.com/2013/10/25/f ... 50549.html

There is a genuine sympathy for the BJP in south and western TN, due to the serial killings of the BJP workers, and If this alliance materialises, the BJP and its allies are easily going to get around 20-25% of the vote in Tamil Nadu, and I suspect, many of the south TN seats. If the BJP ups the ante by fielding a couple of national leaders from Tamil Nadu (not SS - he is not popular for his SL stand, but maybe Nirmala Sitharaman?). Most vitally, for the first time, the BJP will develop a cadre of its own in TN. This is crucial, not only for making the BJP a viable alternative on its own, but also because a viable BJP cadre is the first step in countering EJs. If you look at the map of India, EJs are strong only where the BJP is weak. This is one reason why I am so insistent that the BJP not be dependent on allies for anything much. I had much faith in CBN, but he failed signally in taking on the EJs in Andhra (for all the abuse heaped on YSR, CBN is equally culpable and EJ activity during his rule was just as strong). Now, he is going to suffer for it with the bulk of the EJs going with Jagan.

nageshks ji wish that is true about TN. A good number of seats coming to BJP will give BJP a handle on Amma. In UP, both SaPa and BaSaPa became more and more independent as the Congress weakened further. That is why Congress has to rely on CBI ever more with every passing day. Had Congress not been weakened they would have negotiated across the table. This fragmentation of the Congress-left combine is also very important in this fight. The people will not come directly to BJP.

As regards your reservations about CBN you must have observed parallels with the LKA protecting some Hindu Sant in a defensive manner. But this point defence does not work. With the combine might of Abrahamism + Westernism we have to figure out a way to engage them and defeat them on their turf. Emotionalism is required to cement the ties within Hindus.

Both LKA and CBN are not confrontationist of the first order and would like to take a defensive stand as their default stand. There are other Hindu netas of that kind too.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 19 Dec 2013 21:34

There is a great emotional appeal of the Nationalist Development kind too.

It can for example be communicated that while Gujarat has 6 Crores people to Delhi's 1.2 crore but the vibrant Gujarat summit shows that the world wants to bet on those who support themselves while the 1.2 crore people of Delhi would soon be relying on subsidized bijli and be a general drain on the nation.

I mean the above has to be suitably packaged. Not delivered as blandly as I have put it.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 19 Dec 2013 22:40

nageshksji,

Read both the articles linked by you about TN.Theres not an iota of indication in the articles that BJP chances or its popularity have increased except as pious hopes.Ofcourse MRV is speculating about Modi effect,without quantifying it or how it will translate through which candidates.

The only nice thing seems to be that Cong and DMK will be decimated unless DMK appeals to some emotional issue.If DMK gets defeated and ADMK gets max seats that will throw up problems how ADMK will align with BJP.Thats for another day.Imvvho,BJP can hope for max 2-5 seats if they are lucky.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 19 Dec 2013 22:46

svenkat wrote:nageshksji,

Read both the articles linked by you about TN.Theres not an iota of indication in the articles that BJP chances or its popularity have increased except as pious hopes.Ofcourse MRV is speculating about Modi effect,without quantifying it or how it will translate through which candidates.

The only nice thing seems to be that Cong and DMK will be decimated unless DMK appeals to some emotional issue.If DMK gets defeated and ADMK gets max seats that will throw up problems how ADMK will align with BJP.Thats for another day.Imvvho,BJP can hope for max 2-5 seats if they are lucky.

2-5 seats is a major Aryan Invasion!

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 19 Dec 2013 23:51

svenkat wrote:nageshksji,

Read both the articles linked by you about TN.Theres not an iota of indication in the articles that BJP chances or its popularity have increased except as pious hopes.Ofcourse MRV is speculating about Modi effect,without quantifying it or how it will translate through which candidates.

The only nice thing seems to be that Cong and DMK will be decimated unless DMK appeals to some emotional issue.If DMK gets defeated and ADMK gets max seats that will throw up problems how ADMK will align with BJP.Thats for another day.Imvvho,BJP can hope for max 2-5 seats if they are lucky.

SVenkat-ji,
I honestly do not expect more than 2-3 seats for the BJP. Realistically, they have no chance except in Kanyakumari and Ramanathapuram, and if we stretch things a lot, then maybe, just maybe, Coimbatore. I also expect another 3-4 seats for the BJP allies (MDMK (Virudhnagar and Thirunelveli)and DMDK (Thoothkudi?) in south TN, and maybe one for KMK in Niligiris/Tiruppur). Not sure if the PMK-DMDK combine can win anything in north TN - neither BJP, nor MDMK have much to contribute there. But 5-6 seats (with allies) is a major achievement, and vitally, will give the BJP something to play with for the future in TN, and vitally, help in building a cadre in TN. That is the greatest achievement, IMO. Also, I expect a good performance by the BJP in Trichy and Chennai city.

From what I am hearing from south BJP leaders (these are claims I have heard from BJP folks from South TN when I was interacting with the Karnataka BJP folks, so take it with a pinch of salt), they have been hammering on the woes of the fishermen in TN (particularly the harassment by the SL navy). They are claiming that they have an independent base among the fishermen and that is why Vaiko is so eager to partner with them.

The former part of the claim is unverifiable at this time, but the latter part is verifiable and true. Vaiko has been very eager for an alliance with the BJP since the Modi rally in Trichi in September. I am also sensing a new enthusiasm in the TN BJP. So - even if they don't get a huge number of seats (the BJP alliance, I mean), they will have a 20% vote in TN and that is something to be cultivated for the future.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 20 Dec 2013 00:01

nageshks, I dont think JJ will partner with BJP before the elections as she has her own ideas. But if a 0-4 sweep of INC led states occurs she will regret not being on the bandwagon. What TN wants is some representation in Union Cabinet proportional to their MP strength. So if the NDA gets good enough twith out the South there wont be Cabinet perks.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 20 Dec 2013 00:21

ramana wrote:nageshks, I dont think JJ will partner with BJP before the elections as she has her own ideas. But if a 0-4 sweep of INC led states occurs she will regret not being on the bandwagon. What TN wants is some representation in Union Cabinet proportional to their MP strength. So if the NDA gets good enough twith out the South there wont be Cabinet perks.

JJ will never partner with BJP, before or if this Grand Alliance materialises, even after the elections. I think I mentioned that before. If the Grand Alliance materialises, it is the BJP-Alliance that will be her principal opponent in the next elections, (is it 2016?). The Grand Alliance is capable of producing at least a couple of winners, and decimate the old fox, Dr. Artiste. So, I think it is time to throw down the gauntlet at JJ. No more pulling punches. Go for the kill. We can always deal with the fallout later on.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 20 Dec 2013 00:39

RajeshA-ji,
With your prescience, you should become an astrologer

Kerala Congress, both M and B factions, are aligning with Modi.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/bjp- ... 31761.html

Reading between the lines, it seems like Nairs, Catholics, and BJP cadres (a section of Ezhavas, Namboodris and some Brahmins?) are coming together. This can be a deadly combo in a 3 cornered fight.

Looks like the Modi factor weighs very heavily on the Kerala politicians minds. Are we all underestimating the Modi factor in Kerala?

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 20 Dec 2013 01:05

Folks - in view of the signals from Kerala, and that the BJP may win a seat or two even there, this is a signal that the BJP can finally become a fully national party, winning seats in every state, probably with it being the dominant partner. A side effect that we might not be noticing is that the spread of the BJP also means a shrinking of the space for the Left. Where will this election leave the Left? I mean - maybe 10 seats in Kerala (I am being generous to the Left here - if the BJP spreads, it is the Left that is going to be decimated), and another 10 in Bengal - which essentially means that it is no more national than say SP, which might win the same number of seats in a slightly different setting. Does this signal the death of the old Left and the rise of the New Left, aka Khujliwal?

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 20 Dec 2013 01:23

Kejriwal is more of purist than the old left. He's the real left.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 20 Dec 2013 02:58

nageshks wrote:RajeshA-ji,
With your prescience, you should become an astrologer

Kerala Congress, both M and B factions, are aligning with Modi.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/bjp- ... 31761.html

Reading between the lines, it seems like Nairs, Catholics, and BJP cadres (a section of Ezhavas, Namboodris and some Brahmins?) are coming together. This can be a deadly combo in a 3 cornered fight.

Looks like the Modi factor weighs very heavily on the Kerala politicians minds. Are we all underestimating the Modi factor in Kerala?

When I read about this meeting from Jul 26, 2011, I kind of did feel that Modi was planning for some invasion of Kerala. He has been planning this meticulously for a long time.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 20 Dec 2013 03:14

This man is a genius. He needs gameplan for Assam,WB and Orissa too.

Frederic · Post by **Frederic** » 20 Dec 2013 03:34

BTW, I have been scanning the news outlets for any reactions from the AK-47 guy. Nary a squeek. Anybody has any pointers to Kujliwal's reaction to this sordid custodial rape of DK? He was very active during the Nirbhaya case as I recall.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 20 Dec 2013 03:50

vivek.rao wrote:This man is a genius. He needs gameplan for Assam,WB and Orissa too.

I wish he had a game plan for Andhra Pradesh too.