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pandyan wrote:so, gadkari is whining that they couldnt even control the outcome of a union territory? sounds more like digging own pit.
Gadkari is no stranger to political intrigues, having personally faced one himself. He is rightfully taking a hit on behalf of the party and creating a trail of evidence/statements against AK, to be used later. Just as people asked the BJP's D4 leadership about their silence while 2G loot was going on, people may ask the same questions when faced with a plebiscite in Kashmir or an economy bankrupted by years of doles years from now. In fact letting him form the government has blunted his attack on the BJP, otherwise MLA's defections would have given AAP a stick to beat BJP.

On the other hand BJP is now seriously troubled North of Delhi. Haryana, Punjab, HP, Chandigarh, Utttarakhand and Jammu make about 30 odd seats of BJP quota and it is a sorry state here. These states have significant Punjabi population clusters mainly concentrated in urban areas and now all of them are threatening to go the AAP way. (Edit: when I say the AAP way, I do not mean a win rather it will spoil any Modi advantage that may have occurred, so NaMo mania stands blunted here atleast)

Punjab unit needs to be specially revamped so that firepower is unleashed from this base. The sharpest knives of the party are sitting at home while buffoons are making money and remaining inaccessible. All pak migrated or urban areas based Punjabi Hindus in these states are watching intently how Punjab politics is played, the longer BJP persists with the current geriatrics and greenhorns the bigger the debacle. No wonder Punjabi (largely Hindu) voters of Delhi gave them a sound slap.

AK may be a Yeltsin and NM a Putin for all we know! But BJP should not go the Kuomintang way and lose to this Mao.
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Atish wrote:Stick to Occams razor, AK47 is a leftist oriented do gooder but he is a good honest able man. His leftist orientations are not extreme, he is a much better option that the current center left option Congress.
Sorry to nitpick, how does the method arrive at these qualities attributed to AK? Wasn't he using the loopholes in the law to do something parallel to his job? Did he take on corrupt people when he was at his job using existing laws? A man also knows by the company he keeps. Isn't Binayak Sen's ideology not extreme? Or Bushan's? Is there any redeeming guy on the right in his group?
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Seems maopests have 'liberally' issued terror threats and warnings to JH citizens against attending namo rally. Recall that namo had braved going to Baster and Patna despite terror threats... so also JH, it seems. BUt full respect to ordinary xitixenry to have turned out the way they have. kudos.

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Atish wrote:Stick to Occams razor, AK47 is a leftist oriented do gooder but he is a good honest able man. His leftist orientations are not extreme, he is a much better option that the current center left option Congress. He will not hurt NaMo but destroy Congress over time. His antedecents may raise some questions , but its a stretch to call it a foreign funded insidious plan.

All in all a good phenomena.
The Congress and the Dynasty have sucked India for a long time. Now it is reinventing itself as Aam Aadmi Party, and all their assets, vote-banks, networking connections, MSM support, foreign patronage, "secular" ideology being transferred to Aam Aadmi Party. All one has is a few new faces at the top ostensibly as yet not wading in corruption.

Basically after sucking India dry, the British handed over the relay baton to the Congress to do the same. Now Congress is handing over the relay baton to Aam Aadmi Party.

So is this the template to be used to fool Indians again into tripping Hindutva's dash to reclaim Bharat? Yes it is!

Only solution to corruption is a reinfusion of Dharma and Bharatiyata into the body polity of India. That means heavy dose of chemotherapy. What Aam Aadmi Party is offering is some plaster on some skin blemish and a whole lot of placebos with fancy names.

The youth of this country should understand that there is no other option other than severe chemotherapy. The root of corruption is secularism itself, which distances the nation from Dharma and Bharatiyata. BJP by itself does not embody Dharma and Bharatiyata either, but it has the most number of people who are willing to march to these principles if led by the right general. And NaMo does embody these principles.
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If some of the BRFites think that it's not right for Modi to attack Farjiwal directly which might give him undue stature, then I guess the least Namo should do is brand AAP as Congress ke chamche. He can say something on the line "Congress ki chamchi parties, Dilli mein, UP mein, Bihar mein, J&K mein, etc." Talk about indirect Congress rule in Delhi, UP, J&K & now in Bihar as well, etc. etc.
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if u wise ppl think AAP is passing by and/or just urban crowd...wait. AK has the image of Anil Kapoor nayak as of now. Urban and Semi Urban ..both seem to think so.None of them have patience to even scratch surface. But then no one thought it will be so easy for namo to walk over and grab. AK is s to spoil 30+ seats and with it chance for Namo to be PM..unless this is expected by Sangh and they already have a plan to tackle. Turn this AK into opportunity to increase seats further.....Namo ne bhi loheke chane chabayein hain aub tak....counting on the wisdom in his white beard.
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Ultra secular Kamal Faruqui joins AAP.
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Attended a mini AAP rally in our society out of curiosity from the back benches. Reconverted 4-5 members to being Modi. Rubbished their claim to Aam Aadmi-Metro. Said Laloo came in a rickshaw before 15 years of jungle raj. Asked them if they want Kashmir to be handed over to Pak. Asked them why he lied. They said a Politician has to say such things. I asked then what's the difference, what is the change. Was pleased a few started supporting me and raised points on their own. In short held sway. When they came to me for a donation Rs 10. Said no. Said i will vote for Aam Aadmi like Modi and Parrikar who have delivered and not made false promises. :)
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^^ Good on you. Will copy you and try to infiltrate this cult's meetings. Will carry a barf bag for safety.
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harbans wrote:Attended a mini AAP rally in our society out of curiosity from the back benches. Reconverted 4-5 members to being Modi. Rubbished their claim to Aam Aadmi-Metro. Said Laloo came in a rickshaw before 15 years of jungle raj. Asked them if they want Kashmir to be handed over to Pak. Asked them why he lied. They said a Politician has to say such things. I asked then what's the difference, what is the change. Was pleased a few started supporting me and raised points on their own. In short held sway. When they came to me for a donation Rs 10. Said no. Said i will vote for Aam Aadmi like Modi and Parrikar who have delivered and not made false promises. :)
Great going harbans ji!

This is one heck of a post I found on Kejriwal's antecedents.

Arvind Kejriwal, who are you fooling ?

What one needs to do is to really fix it in the minds of the people, that Arvind Kejriwal is a paradropped CIA agent and supported by Sonia Gandhi! :D

This has to be done both on twitter and door-to-door! One needs to seed the youth in various mohallas who can then spread the word! CIA agent sounds corny, but it is something all can understand, and in fact it may be closest to the truth anyway!

However one still needs to work on the rhetoric and the slogans to make people understand the AAP phenomenon.
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I can not understand the Punjabi population. Most of them were thrown out of their homes in Pakistan. They should have been the core voters for BJP but they are not. I have had conversations where I have seen a surprising disdain for BJP; maybe it is the stockholm syndrome. The Punjabi Khatri group had the largest %age voters for AAP in Delhi!!
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VikramS wrote:I can not understand the Punjabi population. Most of them were thrown out of their homes in Pakistan. They should have been the core voters for BJP but they are not. I have had conversations where I have seen a surprising disdain for BJP; maybe it is the stockholm syndrome. The Punjabi Khatri group had the largest %age voters for AAP in Delhi!!
Probably the line of thought mentioned by SVenkatji, about disdain for SAD and by the same consequence BJP due to its alliance with them. I find similar strain of thought mentioned by Munnaji and to some extent from Sanjaykumarji. Probably the wounds of Khalistani-terror activities is still fresh, which gets discounted by those not having lived in Punjab-Haryana-Delhi region through the 80s-90s.

I am open to severe correction about my reading, but this is what I could gather from these posters. OTOH, Radha Rajan was quite upbeat about SGPC in the blog post linked by Atriji, things in India are obviously quite complex for my amoeba-brain.
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VikramS wrote:I can not understand the Punjabi population. Most of them were thrown out of their homes in Pakistan. They should have been the core voters for BJP but they are not. I have had conversations where I have seen a surprising disdain for BJP; maybe it is the stockholm syndrome. The Punjabi Khatri group had the largest %age voters for AAP in Delhi!!
Punjabi Khatri, Punjabi Brahmins (Sheila Dixit is one too) and Punjabi Vaish communities do not ally with the BJP because the Sangh overlords surrender their hard fought political victories at the doorsteps of allies or some other pressure groups. BJP Punjab surrendered the historic opportunity of appointing the first ever Deputy CM in Punjab after the 2007 elections to make the Badal clan happy. In fact the local strongman who was claimant to the post was hounded, crudely tarred by a non-case and then denied any worthwhile post in the dispensation after 2012 polls. To keep him at bay all non-entities and corrupt leaders were given plum assignments who have in turn scorched the ground brown.

Would anyone vote for a party that appoints 85 plus year old as party's state election committee in-charge (Balramji Das Tandon)? Appoints a 85 years old physically fragile leader as its legislative party leader (Bhagat Chuni Lal)? And finally the state president is someone who aspired to the post of CM's PA. Will these guys ever be called so called leaders of right? No they cannot ever. For Punjabis, BJP is not a Hindu party or the party of Modi. It is simply a B team of SAD and a slave to Delhi establishment that can never enjoy the freedom of decision making like a Kejriwal for all his faults or the ease of money making like Congress.

Modi better step in and show some spine on this count at least for once!
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Hari Seldon wrote:Seems maopests have 'liberally' issued terror threats and warnings to JH citizens against attending namo rally. Recall that namo had braved going to Baster and Patna despite terror threats... so also JH, it seems. BUt full respect to ordinary xitixenry to have turned out the way they have. kudos.
Hari garu: Was the rally well attended, like other NaMo rallies? How big was the crowd? 1+ lakh?
saravana wrote:Ultra secular Kamal Faruqui joins AAP.
Birds of the same feather flock together :P
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LakshO wrote:
Hari Seldon wrote:Seems maopests have 'liberally' issued terror threats and warnings to JH citizens against attending namo rally. Recall that namo had braved going to Baster and Patna despite terror threats... so also JH, it seems. BUt full respect to ordinary xitixenry to have turned out the way they have. kudos.
Hari garu: Was the rally well attended, like other NaMo rallies? How big was the crowd? 1+ lakh?
ETV reports 4-5 Lakhs
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Hari Seldon wrote:Well, this is from ETV Bihar. The various ETVs (Ramoji's channels) will ensure wide coverage IMO...
sir, It may not last long.. they could be bought out at some point as they are a public company:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETV_Network
ETV Network (Telugu: ఈటీవీ నెట్వర్క్) is one of the largest networks of satellite television channels in India and is owned by Network 18. It was formerly owned by Ramoji Group.
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M Joshi wrote:If some of the BRFites think that it's not right for Modi to attack Farjiwal directly which might give him undue stature, then I guess the least Namo should do is brand AAP as Congress ke chamche. He can say something on the line "Congress ki chamchi parties, Dilli mein, UP mein, Bihar mein, J&K mein, etc." Talk about indirect Congress rule in Delhi, UP, J&K & now in Bihar as well, etc. etc.
Put it in his website and he might as well say it. They are into crowd-sourcing ideas for speeches lets it becomes repetitive. :D
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Anyone has any idea how many plainclothes police personnel were traveling with AAP leader forming a ring around him. All of them sporting trademark AAP topi and yes no ticket, duty passes. Cost of providing security has risen fivefold.
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LakshO wrote:
Hari Seldon wrote:Seems maopests have 'liberally' issued terror threats and warnings to JH citizens against attending namo rally. Recall that namo had braved going to Baster and Patna despite terror threats... so also JH, it seems. BUt full respect to ordinary xitixenry to have turned out the way they have. kudos.
Hari garu: Was the rally well attended, like other NaMo rallies? How big was the crowd? 1+ lakh?
saravana wrote:Ultra secular Kamal Faruqui joins AAP.
Birds of the same feather flock together :P

Apparently two of these dimwits have in the twweettss (Ilmi) and on News24 (kumar vishwas) have supported the Communal Violence Bill.

:lol:

Har shaakh pe ullu baitha hai!
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Shonu wrote: sir, It may not last long.. they could be bought out at some point as they are a public company:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETV_Network
ETV Network (Telugu: ఈటీవీ నెట్వర్క్) is one of the largest networks of satellite television channels in India and is owned by Network 18. It was formerly owned by Ramoji Group.
ETV telugu is probably still owned by Ramoji Rao. He would want to exert influence in AP politics. IIRC, some body posted in BR that RIL is the major stake holder in Network 18 now.
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The closing speech of AK was replica of the hair raising endings in NaMo Speech. One channel compared it. I found that they had even tried to emulate the roar of lion but ended as that of mice lacking substance.
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Notice where this AK-47 gets his information from:

http://www.firstpost.com/india/kejriwal ... 44351.html

A lot of people have worked on unmasking this front. Here is one of them:

http://www.ibtl.in/news/exclusive/2106/ ... crusaders/
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chaanakya wrote:The closing speech of AK was replica of the hair raising endings in NaMo Speech. One channel compared it. I found that they had even tried to emulate the roar of lion but ended as that of mice lacking substance.
One of the problems that I have faced in trying to make AAP voters think is the liberal use of 'Bharat Mata ki Jai' and also the fact the Kumar Vishwas uses the word 'Dharm' a lot.

The only time I first spoke these words was on BRF after many years of training and practice. But these guys just drop it off like it is something fashionable.

NaMo has evolved a lot in terms of establishing link with this audience. Expect AK-47 to copy more.

Was listening to the maestro today, speak in his Ranchi Rela. I don't think anybody can match NaMo in terms of understanding of the crowds. His intros and pauses are usually very importantly placed to establish the link before he lunges and parries forth onto the main issues.

Unfortunately an impostor enjoying success by a fluke will always have supporters who cannot face up to the stupidity of their voting and will always be willing to protect the impostor and launch him skyhigh.
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munna wrote: Punjabi Khatri, Punjabi Brahmins (Sheila Dixit is one too) and Punjabi Vaish communities do not ally with the BJP because the Sangh overlords surrender their hard fought political victories at the doorsteps of allies or some other pressure groups. BJP Punjab surrendered the historic opportunity of appointing the first ever Deputy CM in Punjab after the 2007 elections to make the Badal clan happy. In fact the local strongman who was claimant to the post was hounded, crudely tarred by a non-case and then denied any worthwhile post in the dispensation after 2012 polls. To keep him at bay all non-entities and corrupt leaders were given plum assignments who have in turn scorched the ground brown.

Would anyone vote for a party that appoints 85 plus year old as party's state election committee in-charge (Balramji Das Tandon)? Appoints a 85 years old physically fragile leader as its legislative party leader (Bhagat Chuni Lal)? And finally the state president is someone who aspired to the post of CM's PA. Will these guys ever be called so called leaders of right? No they cannot ever. For Punjabis, BJP is not a Hindu party or the party of Modi. It is simply a B team of SAD and a slave to Delhi establishment that can never enjoy the freedom of decision making like a Kejriwal for all his faults or the ease of money making like Congress.

Modi better step in and show some spine on this count at least for once!
Are you speaking of Manoranjan Kalia and Avinash Rai Khanna, Munna-ji? And Balramji Das Tandon, whatever his age, has never surrendered Punjabi Khatri interests to the Akalis.
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Punjabi Brahmins (Sheila Dixit is one too)
Small nitpick Munnaji- Sheila Aunty is not a Punjabi Brahmin, she is a Sikh married to a UP brahmin (Vinay Dixit, Uma Shankar Dixit's son who was in the IAS but expired quite some time back. Uma Shankar Dixit was a major Cong (I) leader and one of Indira's closest lieutenants...)
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http://news.rediff.com/commentary/2013/ ... pdates.htm
22:26 Did Kejriwal meet businessmen in Delhi hotel?:

A correspondent reports: Senior BJP leader Nitin Gadkari's allegation against Delhi Chief Minister Arvind Kejriwal and the Congress is not mere political rhetoric but it has some substance, said a source in the party.

The source claimed that Kejriwal had met three well-known personalities of the business world at Hotel Aman in Lodhi road.

While one businessman owns a fancy retail chain in Khan Market, another one is involved with the manufacturing of two wheelers, said the source.

The third businessman, said the source, is well-known in the party circuit of Delhi.

Kejriwal has strongly denied charges that he met any interlocutors of the Congress anywhere.

This is the BJP's propaganda to hurt the AAP's credibility, said the party's sympathisers.

He added, ''Kejriwal or anybody in politics can meet businessmen to seek funding for the political party".
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I consider Kiran Bedi and Anna Hazare to be much better people than AK. If they do not trust AK, then that is proof enough for me not to trust him.
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nageshks wrote:Are you speaking of Manoranjan Kalia and Avinash Rai Khanna, Munna-ji? And Balramji Das Tandon, whatever his age, has never surrendered Punjabi Khatri interests to the Akalis.
Yes sir, these two along with Sidhu are cooling their heels. Tandon saab's downfall started when he surrendered the power to SAD during 1997-2002 regime, he lost elections and could never recover the ground by any means. His home territory of Amritsar has fallen prey to a famous brother in law and the local BJP MP was dismantled brick by brick to please the SAD. He was politically inactive and the only reason he was brought out of cold storage was to please SAD.

The trouble with this region is that urban centres of Punjab, Haryana, Uttarakhand, HP and Chandigarh have migrant Punjabi demographics and lots of inter-marriages and trade/business links. If BJP continues to deliver 0 while talking high, it will end up with a Delhi like situation. So near yet so far.

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Kalia as legislative party leader influenced 2007-8 Vidhan Sabha elections of Himachal Pradesh by favoring/helping Dhumal heavily and for that reason Shanta Kumar never forgave him. Shanta Kumar got even with Kalia when he became prabhari of Punjab BJP in 2010 (?) timeframe. Kalia took on everyone to have a bust of SP Mookherjee installed at Madhopur entrance to J&K. And the brilliant folks of BJP rewarded him by humiliation and slander!
adrija wrote:Sheila Dixit....
My bad, I knew that she was from Kapoor/Mehta clan from Kapurthala, so assumed she married in Punjabi Brahmin family by default!
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In Cong’s Modi fight, can AAP come to rescue?

In theory, this strategy has its merits. Modi and Kejriwal have one asset in common. They are outsiders who promise to cleanse the gutters of Delhi corruption. If Modi, with an energized BJP cadre in support, remains the only claimant to honesty’s mantle, Congress could face electoral upheaval. But if the mantle can be shared, voter focus will be split.

The problems are apparent, once you clear the gold dust of media coverage. Delhi has seven MPs; Parliament has a hundred times that and more. Television often gives more attention to seven seats than 700, but offering free water to the capital’s middle class from some magic jug is not quite the same as finding a solution to river disputes between Karnataka and Tamil Nadu.

Delhi was the only state to produce a confused result, but the rough-and-ready opinion poll that Kejriwal conducted after the Assembly results to check the city’s mood confirmed an important fact: voters go to the polling booth to elect an alternative government, not only to give vent to anger. Kejriwal would have preferred another, quick, election, to maximize the positive surge in his direction. Citizens told him to get on with it, and deliver on promises instead of stretching an alibi. There is a consistent message from ground level. Voters want a stable government. Kejriwal cannot offer that at a national level. Nor can he promise a coalition, since he considers every other party corrupt. His only rationale for entering Parliament will be that of a security guard service. Good, but possibly not good enough.
Before 2009, the pursuit of Modi was a catchment run for votes. In 2014, the confrontation has edged closer to existential. The camouflage, if there was ever any, has been ripped off. Modi’s slogan is unambiguous, an India rid of Congress. He asked Mumbai, from where Mahatma Gandhi told the British in 1942 to quit India, to launch a “Quit Congress” movement.

At least some Congress seniors do not dismiss this as seasonal bluster. They feel that Modi could turn victory in 2014 to re-election in 2019, even as he coils Congress in corruption cases. Would a family-run Congress possess the commitment and resilience to survive such a difficult decade ahead? The party has already disappeared from huge swathes in the country, without any help from Modi. Time, and dejection, might do the rest. They are confident, however, that Congress can negotiate its way through the swamp if the next administration is led by anyone else. Only Modi would squeeze it out of political space.
Congress has never pursued any politician with the ferocity it displays against Modi. This is not merely desire for retribution; it is also evidence of worry. The past few days have been particularly depressing to Congress, as accusations have peeled away despite long and intense scrutiny. CBI, which reports to the Centre, could not find “prosecutable evidence” against Modi in the Ishrat Jahan death.

A magistrate’s court has ruled that Modi cannot be charged with collusion in the 2002 Gujarat riots. A final attempt is being made through the “snoopgate” allegations. But after setbacks in tougher cases, there isn’t too much credibility left in UPA’s storehouse, let alone time. In public life, an accusation often comes roaring like a lion, and retreats bleating like a lamb. But voters have sharp ears.
By February we will know whether Kejriwal has been able to use Congress, or vice versa. It might suit both if Kejriwal loses Congress support because he has filed corruption cases. Kejriwal would be rid of government, and Congress would be rid of Kejriwal. A wounded Kejriwal could then be unleashed on the general election. In the meantime, all Modi has to do is wait, and keep quiet. If BJP had won Delhi, he would have no answers on electricity rates, water or crime. Delhi’s water comes from Congress-ruled Haryana; electricity from corporations, who are even less generous; and the police is run by the Centre. Some battles are better lost
I think we need to wait out. NaMO should focus on Governance, Jobs, Growth and Security. BJP should leave dealing AK with BJP Delhi

I like the tone of this article. Not angry or accusatory. very reasonable. I hope all NaMo supporters use this tone
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^+1 saar. MJ Akbar is as sharp as they come. And seems sold on Modi in a cautious, level headed way.

That article is a must read, folks. Among the keepers for the weepers (Rona-dhona dhoti shiver crowd here).
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Yes, let Delhi BJP take on AAP. Also if AAP has to fight LS elections it has to either a) fight with Congress and attack Modi which will put the cat amongst pigeons or b) fight against Congress while taking help which he will be unable to explain to the public. Modi should not speak about Kejri. Let Kejri speak about Modi.
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NaMo is not an 'outsider' but is a 3-time elected C.M. but an attempt to ==…
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... ttarget=no

As If on que
TIRUNELVELI (Tamil Nadu): AAP leader Prasant Bhusan on Sunday said the party always supported the cause of people's movement against nuclear energy at Kudankulam and would always be with the people.

Addressing members of People's Movement Against Nuclear Energy at Idinthakarai near the Kundankulam Nuclear Power Project, Bhushan assured his party's support to the ongoing agitation against KNPP.

"We always opposed nuclear energy and also the Kudankulam Nuclear Power Project. We supported the cause of PMANE in difficult times", he said.

"The national political scenario was looking for a substitute to BJP and Congress. Both these national parties are tainted. So the people of our country installed AAP in power at Delhi", he said.

The party was launched based on the ideology of opposing corruption in political life. AAP had assured people that they would give a transparent and corruption-free government.

Later he told reporters that the Centre should take immediate steps to resolve problems of fishermen getting attacked by the Sri Lankan navy.

Some entrepreneurship? :lol:

And did anybody notice what AK-47 said after oath taking ceremony.

"Kejriwal ne shapath nahi li, in saath/cheh mantrion ne shapath nahi li..........." :rotfl: some faux pas.
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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

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vishvak wrote:NaMo is not an 'outsider' but is a 3-time elected C.M. but an attempt to ==…
He is an outsider to the Congi dynasty.
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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

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Gossipguru uvaacha
What will happen to the BJP?

Can Modi’s magic wane? A few days ago, a prominent survey agency conducted a people’s opinion survey in six states and the results are shocking – in Bihar, where BJP’s clean sweep was being taken for granted, the party has shrunk to a mere 12-14 Lok Sabha seats. In Bihar, Lalu, Congress, Ramvilas and Tariq’s coalition seems to be getting nearly two dozen seats. Nitish’s JD (U) might get only three seats. In Jharkhand, too, the BJP is facing trouble protecting its existing number of seats and it might be limited to four seats there. In Delhi, AAP is ahead in the race in five of the seven seats. There is also a direct face off between the Congress and AAP in Haryana, too. In Mumbai alone, AAP’s seats have reached a 17 per cent share. This percentage may increase in the days to come. Which means Kejriwal has the power to sabotage Modi’s dreams.
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>> Nitish’s JD (U) might get only three seats

there goes our future PM. first be backstabbed the BJP to suck up to the congis. then the congis backstabbed him to suck up to laloo :rotfl:
history is proof that the treacherous get paid back in the same coin. chengis khan never used to trust such turncoats and would routinely eliminate them after their inputs had given him victory! today he is nowhere and tomorrow he wont even rule his own village.
if only he had kept some wise counsel and curbed his blind ambitions...
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^^ he is like a kandom which has been taken out of the pack, but discarded because action was put off. Now he can't go back to the pack and he certainly can't claim to have been part of the action.
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mamata, amma and patnaik are playing a very silent game here with no declared affinity to anybody. their non-negotiable demands would be (a) personal fiefdom in the state level (b) bailout pkg . together they will control huge number of MPs.

I dont think they are particular about sickular haleem and biryani or veg gujju thali .... whatever gets them (a) and (b) is the main dish.
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bhargava wrote:^^ he is like a kandom which has been taken out of the pack, but discarded because action was put off. Now he can't go back to the pack and he certainly can't claim to have been part of the action.
Good one! :lol:
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bhargava wrote:Gossipguru uvaacha
What will happen to the BJP?

Can Modi’s magic wane? A few days ago, a prominent survey agency conducted a people’s opinion survey in six states and the results are shocking – in Bihar, where BJP’s clean sweep was being taken for granted, the party has shrunk to a mere 12-14 Lok Sabha seats. In Bihar, Lalu, Congress, Ramvilas and Tariq’s coalition seems to be getting nearly two dozen seats. Nitish’s JD (U) might get only three seats. In Jharkhand, too, the BJP is facing trouble protecting its existing number of seats and it might be limited to four seats there. In Delhi, AAP is ahead in the race in five of the seven seats. There is also a direct face off between the Congress and AAP in Haryana, too. In Mumbai alone, AAP’s seats have reached a 17 per cent share. This percentage may increase in the days to come. Which means Kejriwal has the power to sabotage Modi’s dreams.
Haha, 17 percent in Mumbai? I want some of what this guy is smoking.. If the BJP gets RT and UT together, they will win 6 out of the 7 seats here, with only the uber secular Priya Dutt winning for the Congress (I). AAP won't do or win anything here.
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