Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 06 Jan 2014 20:58

AAP can really be contained by waging a Social Media campaign against them simply on frivolous matters, doing with all the ways they are not Aam Aadmi, their agenda is socialist, there is nothing to their ideas, their ideas are stolen, their treatment of other citizens, etc.

This keeps them off-balance and on the defensive, and basically they won't be able to achieve much in Dehi in the next couple of months.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 06 Jan 2014 21:18

acc to abp news-it was a cricket ball which fell on rakhi's car damaging windscreen, and the boy immediately apologized, but she was furious and saw a deeper conspiracy hence FIR, her father delivered ma behen ki gaali to mangolpuri wasi who were livid in anger on TV and swearing to defeat her next time

many said it was nautanki to get security.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 06 Jan 2014 21:19

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 06 Jan 2014 21:22

http://kiranasis.blogspot.in/2014/01/aa ... turns.html

spread this far and wide

archan · Post by **archan** » 06 Jan 2014 21:33

I see 3 AAPees getting blasted on TV.
1) Prashant Bhushan on his ramble on Kashmir. Even Shazia Smiling Ilmi was made to shut up by the anchor while she struggled to save face.

2) Angry Young Madam Rakhi ji, clearly proven to be a liar when an 11 yr old comes on TV, saying it was his ball that broke her car's windshield. He says he apologized to her and she was mad at him and still called the police. His parents corroborate the story. A local who probably voted for her is saying she is a liar. Poor Rakhi ji, tow days ago was scolding the "rain basera" operators for the smell and alcohol bottles (which probably the basera sleepers drank). Her tone and words showed clearly it was orchestrated.
Yeh sarkar chala rahe hain ya nautanki party?

3) Kaviraj Vishwas ji, for insulting Muslim sentiments with his poem some years ago. On video.

In today's economic times, there is an article saying the industry is dismissive of the socialistic policies of AK and AAP and don't think they are anywhere in contention against NaMo. Let's hope they are right. Imagine an AAP govt. in the center... goodbye Kashmir, welcome stone age.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 06 Jan 2014 21:40

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 06 Jan 2014 21:44

Yayavar · Post by **Yayavar** » 06 Jan 2014 23:12

archan wrote:
3) Kaviraj Vishwas ji, for insulting Muslim sentiments with his poem some years ago. On video.

It is only in the current hyper-sensitive political India that this is a major issue. Wonder what would have happened to Bacchan (the poet):

Sajen na msjid aur namazi,
kahta hai Allah tala;

Saj dhaj kar per saaki aata ,
ban-than kar peenewala;

Sheikh kahan tulna ho sakti,
masjid ki madiralay se;

Chir widhawa hai masjid teri,
sadaa suhagin madhushala.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 07 Jan 2014 00:26

ABPlive online poll:

Who should be prime minister of country after 2014 Lok Sabha polls?

Khujliwal - 18%
Raul Baba - 4%
NaMo - 77%
None of above - 1%

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 07 Jan 2014 00:30

http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/surv ... ality.html

The survey, carried out by a Bangalore-based agency commissioned by Kerala’s Congress president Ramesh Chennithala, has said that there is every possibility for the party and the UDF to face a huge setback in the Lok Sabha polls as the political circumstance prevalent in the State is against them.

The party and the ruling coalition are facing intense anti-incumbency sentiment owing to several factors, the agency has said in its survey report presented to the PCC leadership. The UDF had bagged 16 out of the total 20 Lok Sabha seats in Kerala in the 2009 polls. The Congress had won 13 of the 17 seats it had contested.

According to the survey report, humiliating defeat is possible in the coming election even in seats where Congress candidates had won by handsome margins if the same candidates contest again. The survey advised the party leadership that new faces would have to be fielded in such constituencies even to put up a big fight.

There were only two seats out of the total 20 where sure win for the Congress or the UDF could be expected, said the survey report. It said that hectic efforts at reorganising the party would be required for it to offer a tough fight against the opponents in the changed circumstance, sources in the Congress said.

There was intense dissatisfaction among the grassroots of the party over the style of functioning of the leadership, the survey report warned. Party sources said that the apathy the leadership had been showing to calls for democratic elections to the party committees and the rampant group wars in the top were some of the reasons for this unhappiness.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 07 Jan 2014 00:49

muraliravi ji,

you've spoken earlier about NaMo bringing in BJP splinter parties back into the BJP fold as well as making various alliances around India. Regarding Jharkhand, it occurred to me that NaMo may want JVM-P to retain its independence so as to better eat into the vote-bank of JMM, as when it would be possible if Babulal Marandi had also folded up his party into BJP the way it happened in Karnataka.

As of now, JVM-P is going with JD-U in Jharkhand, and JMM is going to go with Congress.

JVM-P's alliance with JD-U gives it a further credibility boost as being part of the secular stream.

In Jharkhand, JMM and Congress would suffer from double incumbency, and much of their traditional vote could shift to JVM-P, whereas BJP expands on its own caste-alliance there.

Dr Praveen Patil @ 5forty3 wrote:In Jharkhand, it is an extremely fragmented polity and BJP may benefit in a multi-cornered fight.

So defacto NaMo may have reached an understanding with Babulal Marandi after all.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 07 Jan 2014 01:10

muraliravi wrote:http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/surv ... ality.html

The survey, carried out by a Bangalore-based agency commissioned by Kerala’s Congress president Ramesh Chennithala, has said that there is every possibility for the party and the UDF to face a huge setback in the Lok Sabha polls as the political circumstance prevalent in the State is against them.

The party and the ruling coalition are facing intense anti-incumbency sentiment owing to several factors, the agency has said in its survey report presented to the PCC leadership. The UDF had bagged 16 out of the total 20 Lok Sabha seats in Kerala in the 2009 polls. The Congress had won 13 of the 17 seats it had contested.

According to the survey report, humiliating defeat is possible in the coming election even in seats where Congress candidates had won by handsome margins if the same candidates contest again. The survey advised the party leadership that new faces would have to be fielded in such constituencies even to put up a big fight.

There were only two seats out of the total 20 where sure win for the Congress or the UDF could be expected, said the survey report. It said that hectic efforts at reorganising the party would be required for it to offer a tough fight against the opponents in the changed circumstance, sources in the Congress said.

There was intense dissatisfaction among the grassroots of the party over the style of functioning of the leadership, the survey report warned. Party sources said that the apathy the leadership had been showing to calls for democratic elections to the party committees and the rampant group wars in the top were some of the reasons for this unhappiness.

MuraliRavi-ji,
The IUML is not likely to be defeated in Ponnani or Mallapuram. Those two are completely Muslim dominated and IUML keeps winning those. If at least one of those two are certain to be retained by the IUML, it means that the Congress is sure of victory only in one constituency. I wonder which one it is.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 07 Jan 2014 01:11

^^^ Rajesh ji,

I have to plead ignorance here. I am unable to put a finger on a particular group in Jharkhand and say that they vote for this party. So any analysis that I come up will be of zero use. But from what I know, JVM going with jdu is just symbolic since jdu hardly has any base in JH. I can try and get some information on this matter.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 07 Jan 2014 01:11

nageshks wrote:
MuraliRavi-ji,
The IUML is not likely to be defeated in Ponnani or Mallapuram. Those two are completely Muslim dominated and IUML keeps winning those. If at least one those two are retained by the IUM, it means that the Congress is sure of victory only in one constituency. I wonder which one it is.

Maybe they think tharoor can pull it off again in trivandrum

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 07 Jan 2014 01:15

muraliravi wrote:
nageshks wrote:
MuraliRavi-ji,
The IUML is not likely to be defeated in Ponnani or Mallapuram. Those two are completely Muslim dominated and IUML keeps winning those. If at least one those two are retained by the IUM, it means that the Congress is sure of victory only in one constituency. I wonder which one it is.
Maybe they think tharoor can pull it off again in trivandrum

heard on the grapevine, i.e. some comments on some site, that tharoor is actually facing a difficult election.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 07 Jan 2014 01:17

muraliravi wrote:
nageshks wrote:
MuraliRavi-ji,
The IUML is not likely to be defeated in Ponnani or Mallapuram. Those two are completely Muslim dominated and IUML keeps winning those. If at least one those two are retained by the IUM, it means that the Congress is sure of victory only in one constituency. I wonder which one it is.
Maybe they think tharoor can pull it off again in trivandrum

Not likely. Tharoor is unlikely to make it through this time (if he even contests, that is). BJP has superb chances, in fact. O Rajagopal may be able to sail through, thanks to the Hindu fury against the Kerala government.

R_Kumar · Post by **R_Kumar** » 07 Jan 2014 02:13

muraliravi wrote:ABPlive online poll:

Who should be prime minister of country after 2014 Lok Sabha polls?

Khujliwal - 18%
Raul Baba - 4%
NaMo - 77%
None of above - 1%

Rahul baba used to be around 25 %, so all the congressi now voting for AK.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 07 Jan 2014 02:44

R_Kumar wrote:
muraliravi wrote:ABPlive online poll:

Who should be prime minister of country after 2014 Lok Sabha polls?

Khujliwal - 18%
Raul Baba - 4%
NaMo - 77%
None of above - 1%
Rahul baba used to be around 25 %, so all the congressi now voting for AK.

Exactly buddy. Who other than congress supporters will be defending AAP's stand on kashmir etc.. Any potential BJP voter loves India's integrity, Indian Army.. I mean after all this is the starting point for most of us to get attracted to BJP. So it is indeed congress chamchas and some brainwashed youth (who will never vote BJP anyway, they are these hippies who love to give galis to RSS/Hinduism) who are voting AAP.

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 07 Jan 2014 03:13

A nice article on how AAP *is* the system that its trying to change. The insight that this article offers is that it ties the proposed policies of AAP with corruption itself, thus destroying the very foundation of AAP's rise:

http://vicharprachar.wordpress.com/2014 ... to-change/

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Jan 2014 03:24

^^^ Long time back when Acharya used to write about how Bollywood was seeding the image creation he was called Learned Teacher Bomb!
Now folks are making same analogy as to how Bollywood films have seeded the AAPhenomenon.

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 07 Jan 2014 03:31

Its also a reflection of the immaturity of the Indian voter, when he/she is swayed by Deus ex machina type solutions to systemic problems. Real change will take time & will be painful.

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 07 Jan 2014 04:29

pankajs wrote:Prashant Bhushan for referendum on Army's J&K deployment
NEW DELHI: Senior AAP leader Prashant Bhushan sparked a controversy on Sunday by calling for a referendum in Kashmir to decide whether or not the Indian Army should be deployed to deal with internal threats in the valley.

This is good. I wasn't sure if these guys were total idiots in addition to being vacuous loudmouths but they are. BJP has a lot less to do to sweep these critters aside. Kejriwal's subsequent "clarification" was wishy washy too--he did not rule out a referendum in J&K and talked about the "will of the people".

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 07 Jan 2014 04:34

Bhushan will be thrown out of AAP shortly. I think Kejri has that sort of survival instinct..

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 07 Jan 2014 05:29

Published on Jan 06, 2014
By Karthik S
DMDK alliance decision on February 2: The Hindu

ashashi · Post by **ashashi** » 07 Jan 2014 05:39

krishnan wrote:

who is that?

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 07 Jan 2014 06:32

Indian-Americans to make phone calls to garner support for BJP

WASHINGTON: Taking cue from Barack Obama's successful campaigning strategy, the overseas friends of BJP has decided to create an army of Indian-American volunteers to call their friends and relatives back home seeking their support for Narendra Modi in the next Lok Sabha polls.

"Each volunteer is expected to make at least 200 calls," president of OFBJP Chandrakant Patel said yesterday.

"Thousands of volunteers are getting ready to work for 'Mission 2014 - BJP 272+' in the US and some of them are travelling to India to campaign for the BJP," said Patel.

The objective of the campaign is to help BJP to win the parliamentary polls this year and have Narendra Modi as the next Prime Minister, he said.

The OFBJP will form a series of committees comprising of eminent Indian-Americans to work in various areas like social media, research and analysis, IT and web, youths and women.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 07 Jan 2014 07:55

ashashi wrote:
who is that?

SAS Geelani

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 07 Jan 2014 09:24

Niet, that is Maulana Kalbe Sadiq, a leading Shia Muslim scholar, is the Vice-President of the All-India Muslim Personal law Board (AIMPLB).

Educated in Ivy League Arabia.

But seriously this guy is the lesser worries. Govt type, defensive, working to justify his existence to the Araps. The bum doing the namaskaram is more of a #@$#$ than this man.

http://indianmuslimlegends.blogspot.in/ ... sadiq.html

His views about Islam :
Maulana Dr. Syed Kalbe Sadiq views Islam to be a complete and final version of the same truth which revealed in different partial versions in earlier times. It is a comprehensive and practical way of life encompassing all aspects of human life be it spiritual, social or ethical. Dr. Sadiq also holds that Islam is a religion of rationality and reason and therefore leaves no scope for blind ritualism. He has been one of the bitterest opponents of the ritualistic version of Islam and has warned the masses on countless occasions not to perform acts and rituals without understanding its significance because this will result in false feeling of religious arrogance and superiority complex. He has always emphasized that religion is a means to reform and beautify human character. If the character of a Muslim is not attractive he should not be called a true Muslim. Likewise he has also made it clear in many speeches that Islam is the religion of knowledge and thus it encourages research and debate. The realities and doctrines of Islam are open for every human being to testify first and then accept.
Maulana Dr. Kalbe Sadiq also portrayed Islam many times to be a religion of ease. Islam, according to him, has come to make human life easy, not difficult. It does not create problems rather it solves them. If a person tries to serve God and humanity and pray with purity, his little worship will be more valuable in the sight of Allah than hard spiritual exercises of other people. And lastly, Dr. Sadiq also termed Islam, on several times, to be the religion of justice. The goal of religion is to end all kinds of injustice, oppression and tyranny from the face of the earth. According to him, the real and ideal Islamic society is a society where no person may be discriminated on racial, linguistic or economic grounds. In this context, he also condemns the injustice against women. The fact is that this half population of human civilization has always been a victim of worst kind of injustice and exploitation. Dr. Kalbe Sadiq has always raised his voice in support of the rights of women and has taken concrete steps to safeguard them. He has paid special attention towards the education of girls which he deems to be the best way to empower them.
Maulana Dr. Kalbe Sadiq is also known for his radical opposition of those so called Mullas whom he often calls “Kathmullas”, whose activities are confined in creating hatred, disputes, differences and confusions. These so called religious leaders, according to him, are giving to the community the slow poison of blind ritualism and stagnation and ultimately leading the community backwards. They have never come forward to fight against social evils like poverty, ignorance, superstitions, extravagances, costly marriages, dowry and unjustified divorces etc. They, according to him, are serving none but themselves and also are scared to loose their power, influence, authority and above all, livelihood in case of the awakening and resurgence of the community.
Besides, like all great personalities Dr. Sadiq is known for his simplicity, politeness, morals and above all his punctuality. His all programmes including functions, speeches and lectures always began on accurate scheduled time.
It is because of these enlightening and liberal views regarding religion and society, Dr. Kalbe Sadiq has always been the target of criticism and objections from some extremists and ritualistic groups of the community but he never replies in words, he replies with action and results

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 07 Jan 2014 10:16

AAP divided over Prashant Bhushan's Kashmir referendum talk

Controversies continue to dog the Aam Aadmi Party. Too many disparate voices emanating from within the party — with no clarity on its economic issues or if at all it has an ideology — have bogged it down, giving the common man the impression that AAP is going nowhere even while it’s handing its political rivals more than one broom to beat AAP with.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 07 Jan 2014 10:19

AAP & Pakistan on same page, says Arun Jaitley

NEW DELHI: BJP leader Arun Jaitley has lashed out at the AAP's Prashant Bhushan for advocating a plebiscite on demilitarisation in J&K, saying the comments echo views of Pakistan and separatists.

"It is Pakistan which has been suggesting the demilitarisation of the valley. Some separatist groups have been echoing that demand. It is regrettable that a party like the AAP which nourishes national ambitions, should adopt a position hostile to India's interests," Jaitley said in a blog.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 07 Jan 2014 10:37

Why BJP is celebrating Prashant Bhushan’s Kashmir blunder

Senior AAP leader Prashant Bhushan's statement seeking a referendum in Jammu and Kashmir on the Indian Army’s continued presence in Kashmir was perhaps the first real opportunity. The most articulate and urbane face of the BJP, Arun Jaitley went ballistic about it and other leaders also joined in.

The AAP also suffered some embarassment when its young Women and Child Welfare Minister, Rakhi Birla, pressurised cops to lodge and FIR and alleged a conspiracy by unidentified persons when the windshield of her car was accidentally broken by a child playing cricket. The child’s family had claimed that they had apologised to the minister on the spot.

And then came another contentious demand for hiking the quota for disadvantaged social groups from senior AAP leader Yogendra Yadav. Though other political parties would not comment on the issue for obvious reasons, it has sparked off a raging debate on social media. Interestingly, a substantive section of young AAP supporters and sympathisers are firm believers in abolishing such quotas.

Incidents like these do cast some doubts about the AAP’s thought process and ability to provide a long term governance model, but they would still be considered too trivial to adversely impact the party's rise.

Luit · Post by **Luit** » 07 Jan 2014 11:33

X-Post - from "Secularism Thread"

http://forbesindia.com/article/independ ... te/35883/1

Yogendra Yadav: India is a State-Nation, Not a Nation-State

The arrival of Narendra Modi at the centrestage of national politics has renewed an old debate about the idea of India. Underlying the various issues and controversies associated with Modi is a fundamental question: What kind of a nation are we? What does the Indianness of India consist of? How do we sustain a national political community across deep social and cultural diversities? Whose country is it anyway? This debate takes us back to the ghost of John Strachey, a British colonial administrator who wrote a primer in 1888 called India. The “first and the most essential thing to learn about India”, he advised his colonial masters, is that “there is not, and never was an India, or even any country of India, possessing, according to European ideas, any sort of unity, physical, political, social or religious…. That men of the Punjab, Bengal, the North Western Provinces, and Madras, should ever feel they belong to one great nation is impossible.”

This bald characterisation has continued to haunt Indians. It does so because Strachey was right in one sense. If nationhood requires people living within a given political boundary to have one language, one faith, one culture and one race, then claiming nationhood for India required stretching credulity. This is how the early nationalists responded to the colonial insinuation: They invoked the essential unity of the people of India, but struggled to explain how that essence fitted all the areas that fell within the boundaries of colonial India. The one thing they found hardest to wish away was religious diversity and divisions. The dilemma has persisted in post-colonial India.

It was natural for some Indian nationalists to try the other option. Instead of stretching the interpretation, they wanted to bend the reality itself by trying to forge a unity that would conform to received standards. This is how the politics of Hindi-Hindu-Hindustan was born. Guru Golwalkar, the iconic ideologue of the RSS, saw the challenge of nation building as requiring five unities: Geographical, racial, religious, cultural and linguistic. This project involved creating a uniform national community in the light of the cultural self-image of the dominant community. Thus their politics focussed on Hindi as the national language, Hindutva as the national way of life and the north Indian Hindi-speaking region as the heartland.

This vision of nationhood is more European than Indian. It draws upon a model of the nation-state that emerged in Europe. Europe’s civilisational unease with diversities has had a long history. Nineteenth century nation-states were an attempt to settle this unease by matching the cultural boundaries of a nation with the political boundaries of a state. If there was a mismatch, the nation-state model tried either to shift the political boundaries—by creating new countries or merging existing states—or to alter the cultural boundaries by means of cultural integration, assimilation, coercion and even ethnic cleansing.

This was, of course, not the vision shared by the mainstream of India’s national movement. If there was one thing Tagore, Gandhi and Nehru shared, it was their rejection of the idea that India’s unity requires uniformity. Although they continued to use the dominant expression ‘nation-state’ for their vision of India, they laid the foundation for a different approach that saw ‘unity in diversity’. The Indian Constitution and the post-independence politics has built an institutional edifice for recognition of diversity.

India’s ‘asymmetrical’ federalism recognises the unique situation of various states. The cultural policy of the state recognises and supports more than one cultural identity. The co-existence of Indian identity with other regional and religious identities is taken for granted. Political parties that raise regional and ethnic issues are not thrown out; they are brought within the pale of legitimate democratic negotiation of power. Quietly, but surely, India has created a new model of how to deal democratically with deep diversities. This model is best described as that of a ‘state-nation’. State-nation accepts that political boundaries do not and need not coincide with cultural boundaries and that a political community can be imagined across deep diversities.

India’s experience with diversities is not without its problems. The continuing alienation in Kashmir, and the ongoing slow-burning insurgencies in Nagaland and Manipur serve as a reminder of the failures of this experiment. But these are best seen as failures to implement the model of state-nation in its true spirit rather than the failures of this model itself. In any case, the disintegration of the former USSR and Yugoslavia serves to remind us that we cannot take our continued existence as a political unit for granted. The civil war in Sri Lanka and the slow disintegration of Pakistan serve as a reminder of what India could have faced if it followed the European-style nation-state.

It is time we turned to Narendra Modi and spoke through him to the spirit of John Strachey: Thank God, India is not Europe and we don’t live in the 19th century!

Virendra · Post by **Virendra** » 07 Jan 2014 11:48

Now the same media is busy demonising their 'cutie pie' AAP.
Five days later, they will be showering praises again. Bottom less onlee !!

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 07 Jan 2014 11:49

Yogendra Yadav of 'State-Nation' fame:

The continuing alienation in Kashmir, and the ongoing slow-burning insurgencies in Nagaland and Manipur serve as a reminder of the failures of this experiment. But these are best seen as failures to implement the model of state-nation in its true spirit rather than the failures of this model itself.

Don't the Pakis, RNI tell you the same thing.

member_28352 · Post by **member_28352** » 07 Jan 2014 12:38

The one sure shot thing that turns an AAPturd into anti AAPturd is YY's insistence on more reservations. I say keep hammering AAPturds with this message and there is still hope.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 07 Jan 2014 13:03

AK transfers over 800 jal board officials in delhi after a sting op shown by aaj tak apparently. Media is going gaga over such a cleansing operation not questioning what happened to promise of action against s dixit, why politicians are not being touched?

Nitesh · Post by **Nitesh** » 07 Jan 2014 13:29

Guys one question on statement of Prashant Bhushan regarding Kashmir, Kejriwal said deploying army is an internal security matter, but it should take care of local sentiments. this is clearly supporting the statement. Why BJP is not taking him for cleaners

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 07 Jan 2014 13:41

^The dinosaur media is the enemy. Period. The reason lotus blooms so well in social media is precisely the fact that nationalist folk know well that they have little voice or narrative-share in the "mainstream" BS-fountain.

Nitesh · Post by **Nitesh** » 07 Jan 2014 13:45

Haris saar, my point was that BJP even didn't tried to protest, or they did? correct me if I am wrong