Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 08 Jan 2014 17:03

Shonu wrote:teetar saying mallika joining AAP reduces its credibility:

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/o ... 553675.ece

Any reason why? I know she was anti-NM but shes the daughter of vikram sarabhai.. I would have thought that enhances the image .. no?

Would AAP suddenly become kosher if tusshar gandhi joins it, he too is from a prominent lineage after all, no? Point is, these people have discredited their pedigree with their patterns of rash behavior in the past. Only.

JohnTitor · Post by **JohnTitor** » 08 Jan 2014 17:06

^^ Hariji, that I gathered. The question was why? wikipedia doens't give any particular direction as to how she discredited herself other than being anti-NM and contesting on a pro-congress ticket (unless this is all to do with her accusation of NM trying to scuttle SC petition)

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 08 Jan 2014 17:13

Shonu wrote:^^ Hariji, that I gathered. The question was why? wikipedia doens't give any particular direction as to how she discredited herself other than being anti-NM and contesting on a pro-congress ticket (unless this is all to do with her accusation of NM trying to scuttle SC petition)

Mallika is quite virulently anti-Modi....The more AAP attracts these leftist riff-raff the less credibility it has as a party that is equidistant from both BJP and Congress. It is almost certain now, with Mallika and other leftists in control, that AAP and Congress will ally if required to stop Modi's advance.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 08 Jan 2014 17:15

When is Teesta joining AAP?

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 08 Jan 2014 17:16

Ford Foundation, Hivos, Panos and Dutch Embassy- Is Kejariwal an American agent?

A blog that give details (very detailed) of shoddy background of AK.

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 08 Jan 2014 17:22

Shonu wrote:^^ Hariji, that I gathered. The question was why? wikipedia doens't give any particular direction as to how she discredited herself other than being anti-NM and contesting on a pro-congress ticket (unless this is all to do with her accusation of NM trying to scuttle SC petition)

If Mallika Sarabhai joins AAP, they can very say good bye to any LS seats in Gujarat. Teesta, Mallika, Mukul Sinha, et al are PNG for most shikshit Gujaratis (which is where AAP can hope to have any influence in Gujarat). The neo middle class in Gujarat is firmly with NaMo.

member_28352 · Post by **member_28352** » 08 Jan 2014 17:42

Wrt to attack on AAP Kaushambi office.
a. It appears that there is a split amongst the poliburo members of American Awami Party. Trotsky(Prashant Bhushan) the ostensible reason for which the Ram Sena allegedly vandalized the office is being targetted by others in a power putsch. The Indics, as always, will be made the fall guys.
b. BJP should demand that additional security be provided to PB at his home and office. File RTI's if necessary to get police/cops to act. It is strange that immediately after attack security is stepped up for AK47 but none for PB.
c. BJP should also make it clear that if anything happens to PB then AK47 and the rest of the politburo should be held responsible
d. For the good of the Indics both AK47 and PB should be around in the politburo so that AK47 can't concentrate powers in his hands
Those with Sangh/BJP contacts please spread the above.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 08 Jan 2014 18:07

prahaar wrote:
Shonu wrote:^^ Hariji, that I gathered. The question was why? wikipedia doens't give any particular direction as to how she discredited herself other than being anti-NM and contesting on a pro-congress ticket (unless this is all to do with her accusation of NM trying to scuttle SC petition)
If Mallika Sarabhai joins AAP, they can very say good bye to any LS seats in Gujarat. Teesta, Mallika, Mukul Sinha, et al are PNG for most shikshit Gujaratis (which is where AAP can hope to have any influence in Gujarat). The neo middle class in Gujarat is firmly with NaMo.

come on prahaar ji. As though all these animals not joining will give any traction to Gujarat seats. 26/26 in Guj goes to NaMo this time. All these folks are free to help increase NaMo's margins.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 08 Jan 2014 18:13

Atri wrote:BJP should learn thing or two from shivsena. SS never shied away from direct or perceived hooliganism. BJP and Advani went on the blame SS for demolition of Babri when they started feeling the heat. BT accepted claimed the responsibility. This made him immensely popular in MH and BJP has decreased the ideological appeal and pull since then.

Whatever Bhushan fellow said, deserves to be smacked hard. So BJP who ever has done it, you will be blamed for it. Up the tempo and use this to your benefit. Do not be a whimpering babu crying foul.

+10001.

The voter who complains about sanghis doing vandalism was/is never ever a voter of BJP. For social standing they keep talking or bringing these issues over and over again. They will always find some fault. BJP should do a counter attack onlee. The off-repeated talk "I would vote to BJP but for this...." is a huge pile of BS to just make the Social Media and forums resort to breast beating. All this campaign is to make BJP defensive and give tickets to non-derserving candidates a.k.a moderates or whatever the crap one calls.

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 08 Jan 2014 18:19

Shonu wrote:^^ Hariji, that I gathered. The question was why? wikipedia doens't give any particular direction as to how she discredited herself other than being anti-NM and contesting on a pro-congress ticket (unless this is all to do with her accusation of NM trying to scuttle SC petition)

she is involved in immigrations scams...the mango Gujarati thinks of her in a manner I will not be able to describe in this forum without getting bradmins attention..

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 08 Jan 2014 19:16

Why is it surprising MS joined AAP? AAP is CPIM-lite. So it is attracting leftists specially those who know there is no traction with INC at present.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 08 Jan 2014 19:27

Atri wrote: Whatever Bhushan fellow said, deserves to be smacked hard. So BJP who ever has done it, you will be blamed for it. Up the tempo and use this to your benefit. Do not be a whimpering babu crying foul.

Wrong. In a society governed by laws, at least attempting to be one such society, people cannot go smacking others because of offensive language or unacceptable ideas. Vandalism and physical intimidation should not be a tool to advance ones agenda. BJP can be aggressive about its agenda without siding with hooligans.

VinayB · Post by **VinayB** » 08 Jan 2014 19:30

The stupid Manmohan vote of 2009 will go to AAP in 2014.

Bringing back Yeddyurappa into BJP is the clearest signal BJP sent to this vote that they can go f*** themselves. Signal that BJP is serious about winning this election, and will not waste time in silly pursuits like this stupid vote.

AAPtards have got everyone on TV busy talking about Kashmir. It is not an issue at all for 2014. But AAPtards are busy with mental masturbation on that. A friendly attack follows, and AAPtards will get even more busy with the wanking and start imagining their wanking is the real stuff.

BJP should focus on the real campaign. They should let the AAPtards continue with the wanking until their weenies fall off.

AAPtards will raise up a media storm with series of such non issues. Helpful media will oblige. BJP should hit back at those media outlets using whichever means possible. But joining the chorus is not that. Got to focus on the real campaign.

AAPtards are apparently targetting the middle class vote. What exactly is this 'middle class' as a voting group?

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 08 Jan 2014 19:30

Shonu wrote:teetar saying mallika joining AAP reduces its credibility:

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/o ... 553675.ece

Any reason why? I know she was anti-NM but shes the daughter of vikram sarabhai.. I would have thought that enhances the image .. no?

Mallika has sold her surname beyond its sell by date. People of Gujarat know her too well. This development can only better the chances of bjp in the state. In any case I think AAP will hurt more to cong than bjp in GJ. I dont think they will invest much resources in the state.
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I think NM is not attacking farji by purpose. What is the need for himself to speak against him when AAP is hell bent for self destruction? Looking at the moves in last one week, they are exposing themselves for criticism by people on ground. I'm sure a lot of delhites are already realizing the grave mistake they have made. Almost anyone I talk in Gujarat has no illusion about farji anymore thanks to the massive campaign against him on whatsapp. Look at this news of mallika, it is loud and clear for the people that they are fighting only against NM, not cong. Similar will happen everywhere else. Farji is SM's shikar, hence that zebra is to be tamed by people like us. Let the bade log do the bade kaam. On the other hand if NM goes after farji, he will serve farji's purpose onlee. Because he desperately wants the attention to be shifted from his handling of delhi to his chances against NM. MSM will take care of the rest. By speaking against farji NM will give excuse to farji to speak against himself. At the moment AAP supporters don't exactly see why farji would speak against NM but remain silent against cong. THAT is what will hurt most badly to him rather than anything. On top of that he doesn't have any other point against NM other than those already given by cong. So his problem is that he wants to speak against NM but doesn't know what exactly to speak

. But speak he must

. NM doesnt want to give him any point to counter in any way. As long as the focus is on his handling of delhi NM is good. The assault on him will come definitely, but very late in the day when farji will have no time to react... like a late cut of Virat Kohli giving no chance to the fielder. Going needlessly aggressive against farji after seeing delhi's fiasco will be similar to bowling a wide delivery on the leg side by over compensating the previous wide delivery on off side. The stakes are higher on the leg side because it might go all the way for the boundary.

bhargava · Post by **bhargava** » 08 Jan 2014 20:19

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 08 Jan 2014 20:33

This election, different forces are grabbing all resources at their disposal. Dropping all pretenses. Congress supporting elements have mutated into AAP, like snake shedding its exoskeleton when it gets too old/tight. The challenge is to make this association clear. Congress will try to repeat the Delhi situation all over India. Modi's challenge is to prevent a Delhi redux.

Delhi government formation tamasha was used to overshadow a humongous victory to BJP (especially the ones in Raj and MP). This has definitely helped AAP+Cong to prevent a total whitewash due to perception effect in other states.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 08 Jan 2014 20:40

SwamyG wrote:
Atri wrote: Whatever Bhushan fellow said, deserves to be smacked hard. So BJP who ever has done it, you will be blamed for it. Up the tempo and use this to your benefit. Do not be a whimpering babu crying foul.
Wrong. In a society governed by laws, at least attempting to be one such society, people cannot go smacking others because of offensive language or unacceptable ideas. Vandalism and physical intimidation should not be a tool to advance ones agenda. BJP can be aggressive about its agenda without siding with hooligans.

I think you understood me wrong, or perhaps I wasn't cogent enough..

Shivsena is not all about vandalism. In fact, Shivsena did not indulge in vandalism as much in its peak years when BT was calling shots. By Vandalism I mean burning buses and breaking offices etc. Occasional Smacking people, blackening their face etc yes. But their bulk strength come from concentrated application of their organizational strength (along with plenty of halla-gulla). But strength of Sena was in their street power and muscle. This white-collared talks have never won any elections. Not even AAP where congis have provided the raw muscle power on the ground.

Sena was visible everywhere, picketing, shouting, sloganeering, blockading, organizing street-shows, distributing pamphlets, performing roadside aartis, conducting ganesha-festivals and organizing neighbourhood events and office/workplace events. fights happened only when rival party workers attack (which was always congress). Where is BJP? Not visible anywhere. I cannot imagine ppl like harshvardhan and goel leading the street movements. BJP is fortunate to have a well-entrenched ABVP in Delhi. The maar-dhaad was secondary to Sena's main repertoire. And it was usually individual or group of individual based. Very rarely such attack on some office (I am talking of BT's sena). In short, channelizing the nuisance value of an ideological organized mob to get things done.

BJP is on ascent - all arrows should be maintained in quiver and used appropriately in battle. This is not merely a shaastrartha. Ideal politics happens nowhere.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 08 Jan 2014 21:42

http://www.apherald.com/Politics/ViewAr ... t-Survey-/

Oh Boy, if this true, Namo is a genius. The word on twitter is that Lagadapati Rajagopal survey is never wrong.

Everyone is curious and anxious on outcome of the 2014 general elections in the state. Vijayawada MP Lagadapati Rajagopal is done it again. All his surveys and the results were matched. Last month too he predicted the results of the four states and expects severe political loss to the Congress. Making survey has taken as hobby for Lagadapati.

A pre-poll survey, reportedly conducted by Vijayawada MP Lagadapati Rajagopal has given boost to the Telugu Desam Party. Lagadapati surveys always proved exact or almost near to exact results. The following are the outcome of his survey in SA and Telangana Assembly Segments.

Seemandhra Assembly Segments (175)
TDP + BJP -93
YSRCP -71
Congress – 9
Others-2

Telangana Assembly Segments (119)
TDP + BJP – 46
MIM + TRS + congress- 71
Others-2 SA

Seemandhra Parliament Segments:
TDP + BJP – 14
YSRCP – 10
Congress – 1

Telangana Parliament Segments:
Congress +TRS+MIM – 10
TDP+BJP – 7

Of course AP Herald has to induct its own 2 paise statement:
Lagadapati is forgetting two political aspects in his survey. Lok Satta and AAP alliance that will attracts Youth votes and CM Kiran newly launched party targeting aspirants of “Samaikyandhra” voters. The results would change if he consider above two points.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 08 Jan 2014 21:43

SwamyG wrote:
Atri wrote: Whatever Bhushan fellow said, deserves to be smacked hard. So BJP who ever has done it, you will be blamed for it. Up the tempo and use this to your benefit. Do not be a whimpering babu crying foul.
Wrong. In a society governed by laws, at least attempting to be one such society, people cannot go smacking others because of offensive language or unacceptable ideas. Vandalism and physical intimidation should not be a tool to advance ones agenda. BJP can be aggressive about its agenda without siding with hooligans.

Gave a response here!

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 08 Jan 2014 21:45

^^^ If the above survey that I have posted is true, then dammit, NDA can get 21 + TRS (5-6) + maybe Jagan (10) seats. So we maybe looking at 37 of the 42. Oh boy.. If he can do something in Jharkhand and Maharashtra to this effect, I can only imagine.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 08 Jan 2014 22:04

I think there is a match-fixing is going on between INC and SP, where SP will do stupid things before parliament elections so that INC has upper hand and INC will do stupid things before assembly elections, so that SP will get a lead.

Just before 2009 general elections:
SP went political alliances with Kalyan Singh.

Just before UP assembly elections:
From Salman Khurshid to Beni Prasad Verma, everybody did their stupidity hogging negative headlines

Just before 2014 general elections:
Knowing fully that Muzzafarnagar issue has not fully settled, why should SP still going Safai more lavishly then before. They know that media will hound them, still they are doing that stupidity. Azam Khan led delegation went to EU tour, knowing it will be under scrutiny.

Its a clear case of match fixing.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 08 Jan 2014 22:43

http://ccis.nic.in/WriteReadData/Circul ... gendum.pdf

Ms. Nita Kajriwal (sister-in-law of Arvind Kejriwal) is posted to NAC in June 2013.

WOW! The MAFIA and #AAP is not even being secret. They are so brazen that inspite of all the evidence, they can CON people with help of PAIDMEDIA.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 09 Jan 2014 00:18

Published on Jan 9, 2014
BJP may replace some sitting MPs: Times of India

New contenders in Karnataka

* Shimoga - BS Yeddyurappa

* Udupi-Chikamagalur - DV Sadananda Gowda

* Bagalkot - Murugesh R Nirani

* Bangalore North - R Ashoka/Shobha Karandlaje

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 09 Jan 2014 00:26

RajeshA wrote:Published on Jan 9, 2014
BJP may replace some sitting MPs: Times of India

New contenders in Karnataka

* Shimoga - BS Yeddyurappa

* Udupi-Chikamagalur - DV Sadananda Gowda

* Bagalkot - Murugesh R Nirani

* Bangalore North - R Ashoka/Shobha Karandlaje

Good deal I say. Yeddy is the organization guy. We may see a few more changes in the coming days and some real ground level action. In end all these efforts will at least help BJP grab 12-13 seats of the 28. That is the best I expect. Of course, if the entire yeddy fiasco had not happened, we may have seen 22/28.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 09 Jan 2014 00:26

‏@ShivAroor
Congress chap P Congress chap P Shankar Rao builds temple for Sonia in Vijayawada, with this statue of Mrs G. (Brace yourself.) |

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bdd9qasCAAE6q-M.jpg:
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JohnTitor · Post by **JohnTitor** » 09 Jan 2014 00:40

^^ THAT is just DISGUSTING, an insult to hindus everywhere. a LOTUS?? i'm appalled at the @ss licking!

KrishG · Post by **KrishG** » 09 Jan 2014 01:02

Found this on Facebook!

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 09 Jan 2014 01:05

AK starts bribe help line in delhi but brace yourself the phone line will tell you how to do sting op and bring audio/video to the police

my impression is that police will use them to take more bribe, also encouraging people to do sting op can bring anarchy

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 09 Jan 2014 02:57

^ Take the Shazia Ilmi sting op to police and demand action pronto.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 09 Jan 2014 03:34

Published on Jan 09, 2014
44% of voters in India's top metropolises say they will vote for AAP in Lok Sabha elections: Poll: The Economic Times

NEW DELHI: India's biggest metropolises are eagerly looking forward to the Aam Aadmi Party going national and expect it to make a big splash in the 2014 Lok Sabha elections, but a majority still view Narendra Modi as a better prime ministerial prospect than Arvind Kejriwal with Rahul Gandhi a distant third.

That's the message from an opinion poll across the country's eight most populous cities — Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Chennai, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Pune and Ahmedabad — conducted exclusively for TOI by market research agency IPSOS.

The survey found that a third of the respondents thought AAP would win between 26 and 50 seats, another 26% felt it could win 51-100 seats, 11% said it would bag more than 100 and 5% even predicted a majority for the party. Put together, that means three-fourths of all those polled believe AAP will win more seats in 2014 than any party, barring what Congress and BJP won in 2009.

Given that 44% of those polled said they would vote for an AAP candidate if there was one in their constituency, and another 27% said they might, depending on the candidate, it is not difficult to see why the respondents rate AAP's electoral prospects so high.

As for prime ministerial preferences, 58% picked Modi, 25% were for Kejriwal — despite AAP making it clear he is not in the running — and only 14% thought Rahul Gandhi would make the best PM. In Chennai and Mumbai, Kejriwal was preferred over Modi, and even in Modi's home turf, Ahmedabad, 31% thought Kejriwal was the best choice.

Respondents were divided on which party would be worst hit by AAP doing well. A little less than a third said BJP would be worst hit, about a quarter said Congress would bear the brunt and a similar proportion said both the national parties would suffer equally. Interestingly, in Chennai, where politics is dominated by two regional parties, 44% felt regional parties would be worst hit.

What's driving this bullish reading of AAP's prospects? The answers to two questions in the survey give us the answer. The first of these shows that 50% feel AAP is not only very different from other parties, it will stay that way and another 24% feel it is forcing others too to modify their politics. A sizeable 26%, however, felt that AAP is different now, but it might find it difficult to sustain this.

Asked what they find most appealing about the new party, 40% cited its "sincere efforts" at addressing issues of ordinary people, another 35% said it is full of honest people who would root out corruption and 24% said the fact that it was involving people in decision making was its best aspect.

That 44% said AAP would help in at least reducing corruption and another 29% felt it would be able to completely eliminate it, says a lot about how positively the party is currently being viewed in India's biggest cities.

Clearly, the perception about whatever the Delhi government under AAP has done in its brief tenure so far has helped buttress the party's image. As much as 70% of those polled said they were impressed by its performance so far. That figure was understandably highest, at 83%, in Delhi, but nowhere was it lower than 60%.

Asked if the Delhi government's moves on free water supply and subsidised power tariffs were economically irresponsible, a majority said they weren't, though 60% in Mumbai did feel these 'populist' decisions were irresponsible. Not surprising in that context was the fact that 61% see AAP as good for economic growth while only 27% say it would be bad for growth.

If the respondents are so gung-ho about AAP, would they be willing to contribute financially to the party and would they be willing to take out time to campaign for it? The two questions threw up interestingly divergent responses. While 47% said they wouldn't donate to the party and only 41% said they would, the response to giving time was almost an exact mirror image — 47% said they would give time while 42% said they wouldn't.

The survey has obvious limitations, like any such exercise. It is restricted to a sample of 2,015 people across the eight biggest cities and hence may not reflect the larger national mood accurately. Also, it was restricted to those aged 18 to 45 and older people may perhaps be less bullish on AAP, if earlier surveys in Delhi are anything to go by. Also, this survey was restricted to those in the top layers of society, SEC A and SEC B1. Delhi has shown that AAP's appeal is much stronger among the relatively less well-off.

All these caveats notwithstanding, what's clear from the poll is that AAP's performance in Delhi is serving as a springboard to a larger national presence in a timeframe few would have anticipated even a few weeks ago. Just how much larger, remains an open question.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 09 Jan 2014 03:43

RajeshA wrote:Published on Jan 09, 2014
44% of voters in India's top metropolises say they will vote for AAP in Lok Sabha elections: Poll: The Economic Times

Is this a precursor to EVM magic?

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 09 Jan 2014 04:26

nageshks wrote:
RajeshA wrote:Published on Jan 09, 2014
44% of voters in India's top metropolises say they will vote for AAP in Lok Sabha elections: Poll: The Economic Times
Is this a precursor to EVM magic?

My thoughts exactly... EVM magic has so far likely been deployed only in LS polls only (where stakes are highest) and never in state polls (risks are too high, low ROI). IMVVHO, of course.

And lest we forget, a yanqui skolar helpfully pointed out the magic '50' seat number, hint enough for gungadins in India's leftist pimtelligensia to latch onto I guess...

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 09 Jan 2014 04:32

saravana wrote:

‏@ShivAroor
Congress chap P Congress chap P Shankar Rao builds temple for Sonia in Vijayawada, with this statue of Mrs G. (Brace yourself.) |

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bdd9qasCAAE6q-M.jpg:
EDIT: remove gigantic inline image

In Vijayawada there is no chance of Sonia temple. They have recently bulldozed dynasty idols during agitation

. that is somewhere in Telangana.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 09 Jan 2014 05:05

nageshks wrote:
RajeshA wrote:Published on Jan 09, 2014
44% of voters in India's top metropolises say they will vote for AAP in Lok Sabha elections: Poll: The Economic Times
Is this a precursor to EVM magic?

The 44% is their calculation, its not a survey output. They have tried their best to manipulate. Despite all that Namo tops with 58%. Khujliwal and Raga added get 39% which is what Raga used to get before. Modi still gets the same number.

Here is the link to an old IPSOS-TOI survey, the same group that has done this survey also.

http://www.ahmedabadmirror.com/index.as ... 1259ad85e9

Conducted in Mar 2013, Modi was 43% vs Raga 36% among top Indian cities. With the hectic campaigning Modi managed to take it up to 58%. Meanwhile Raul Vinci is slowly transferring all his vote to Khujliwal. Media can gloat in glory. Modi is heads and shoulders above.

Hari Saar, please dont worry about EVM, I repeat Modi is too smart, if he feels EVM's are a threat, he will ensure 64 candidates in each seat to force a ballot box.

One more thing on the survey,

Given that 44% of those polled said they would vote for an AAP candidate if there was one in their constituency, and another 27% said they might, depending on the candidate, it is not difficult to see why the respondents rate AAP's electoral prospects so high.

As for prime ministerial preferences, 58% picked Modi, 25% were for Kejriwal — despite AAP making it clear he is not in the running — and only 14% thought Rahul Gandhi would make the best PM. In Chennai and Mumbai, Kejriwal was preferred over Modi, and even in Modi's home turf, Ahmedabad, 31% thought Kejriwal was the best choice.

What lahori math is this. 58% want modi, just 25 for AK, but guess what 44% will vote AAP if they have a cand. and 27% may. Even if i do a weighted avg, 25% is too little. It is obvious they are not underplaying the 25, so obvious that the 44% is overstated. All damn raul baba voters have moved to AK.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 09 Jan 2014 07:05

I will start to think one and only thing and that is sabotage. Plans are probably afoot to stop Modi

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 09 Jan 2014 08:02

nageshks wrote:
RajeshA wrote:Published on Jan 09, 2014
44% of voters in India's top metropolises say they will vote for AAP in Lok Sabha elections: Poll: The Economic Times
Is this a precursor to EVM magic?

More than EVM, the idea is to effect urban areas to make them think that vote for Kujli is worth it. It is psy ops to create a make believe world.

Yogendra Yadav and IBN kept on pushing 40 seats surveys in delhi until last day of the poll to make people believe. They are trying the same trick in urban areas.

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 09 Jan 2014 08:08

I am not sure how many people you all guys meet and talk in person. My sample is NOT huge, but a few 100 a month. And they are activists who are interested in bringing good law-drafts and they speak to 100s around them. The feedback I am getting is that many middle class in Ahmedabad are taking AAP seriously because of fall in electricity prices in Delhi . The MNC-owners have paid mediamen to write that AK reduce electricity rates by stopping thefts that was done by electricity companies !! And thus MNC-owners are paying paid-mediamen to project AK as "man of action" !!!

Now this Ahmedabad. So rest of India will be worse.

And situation across Gujarat may worsen after ToI starts Gujarati newspaper for Rs 100 for six months, and targetting is done exclusively at middle class and upper middle class.

Now if paid Economic Times = paid Times of India says that "44% urban voters will vote for AK", the paid-media is capable of make it happen. And CIA has remote control in EVMs which can make that happen as well. So it is done deal. Unless, NaMo gives tickets to MNC-agents in BJP, NaMo will lose.

The Nationalists, Swadeshi and Hindivaadies should write off may-2014 election as TOTAL LOSS and start preparing for alternatives.

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The propaganda that "AK is Congress agent" will boomrang when AK arrests Shiela Dixit, Robert Vadhera etc. IMO, the nationalists should stick to REAL propaganda that AK is run MNC-owners and Missionaries. Also the propaganda that "media is Congress agent" will boomrang when media supports AK over Congress before middle class viewers. . IMO, the nationalists should stick to REAL propaganda that paid-media is run by MNC-owners and Missionaries. And true nationalists shiuld NOT hide the fact that a chunk of BJP is also compromised.

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Can anyone start a thread dedicated to tax reforms? I can explain there why TT is nonsense. Also, in serious audience AK's statement that "taxes cant be removed but tax laws should be reformed" is getting BETTER response that statement that "all taxes except TT should be removed" !! The serious audience is RIGHTLY seeing statements like "remove all taxes except TT" as a hot air balloon. And statement like "TT will result into same tax collection but reduce prices" is another hot air balloon, because if taxes remain same, then unless GDP increases, aggregate prices will remain same. So how will TT increase GDP?

I wont discuss tax laws in this thread anymore. If anyone starts thread on taxation, I will discuss it there.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 09 Jan 2014 08:21

^^ The idea is when there is no IT, most of the money is White and transactions will be transparent and under the table. We may even collect more taxes because of that. It also reduces prices.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 09 Jan 2014 08:51

Dr. Praveen Patil ‏@albatrossinfo 43m
Govt to ban opinion polls from February http://m.timesofindia.com/india/Govt-se ... 570976.cms … So most political commentary will be based on Dilli punditry & no data!

Govt set to ban opinion polls before Lok Sabha elections

Can't someone get this quashed in court? What right this low lifers have to ban opinion polls? Will they use EC to do this?

The government is considering a ban on opinion polls with the notification of Lok Sabha elections in line with the views of the election commission. The proposed ban may be implemented before the dates of the parliamentary elections, likely to be held in April-May, are announced.

In its draft legislation on debarring charged MPs/MLAs from contesting elections, the law ministry has included a provision that provides for a ban on opinion polls from the date of notification of polls. The draft bill has been circulated to other ministries for opinion.

A senior law ministry official said the draft legislation is ready and once views are obtained from other ministries, it would be placed before the Cabinet for its approval. The EC has already given a similar opinion favouring a ban on opinion polls and keeping charged lawmakers out of elections.

As of now, the EC has banned publication of any poll results before 48-hours of polling. There is already a ban on exit polls till the final round of polling is over.

The government is also considering seeking passage of the draft bill in the Parliament's special session it will convene in February along with a vote on account. Besides this bill, the government is likely to push five key anti-graft legislations for passage in the forthcoming session.

member_28352 · Post by **member_28352** » 09 Jan 2014 08:57

God forbidding if the MNC and EJ owned govt does come to power expect Indian citizens such as Supreme Court judges to be extradited to stand criminal trial in USA on flimsy pretexts.