AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Klaus · Post by **Klaus** » 08 Jan 2014 19:25

^^^ Muppalla ji, perhaps you are right. Its just that this particular "tide" of jihad has been timed to coincide with a period of frayed nerves, tense social conditions and intense psychological pressure amongst the masses in T, its historic neighboring districts (Bidar, Gulbarga, Bijapur, Raichur), Marathwada and Eastern MH. These are ideal conditions for hot sales of psychotropic substances.

I do not wish for Indics to fall for something they have successfully evaded before (in much worse conditions than during present times).

The trans-national linkages of MIM need to be amputated at all costs, having similar entities running the show in Gangetic valley is bad enough.

disha · Post by **disha** » 08 Jan 2014 21:51

Hari Seldon wrote:Ayyo moment of the day... soniamma as telengana talli....

A yuck statue of Sonia-amma - why the frown? Any kid of 3-5 years looking at the statue will be scared-sh8t!!

On another note, I think we should circulate the fotu wide!!!

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 09 Jan 2014 00:00

Published on Jan 08, 2014
By Chowdary Sirisha
Lagadapati Latest Survey!: AP Herald

Everyone is curious and anxious on outcome of the 2014 general elections in the state. Vijayawada MP Lagadapati Rajagopal is done it again. All his surveys and the results were matched. Last month too he predicted the results of the four states and expects severe political loss to the Congress. Making survey has taken as hobby for Lagadapati. A pre-poll survey, reportedly conducted by Vijayawada MP Lagadapati Rajagopal has given boost to the Telugu Desam Party. Lagadapati surveys always proved exact or almost near to exact results.

The following are the outcome of his survey in SA and Telangana Assembly Segments.

Seemandhra Assembly Segments (175)
TDP + BJP -93
YSRCP -71
Congress – 9
Others -2

Telangana Assembly Segments (119)
TDP + BJP – 46
MIM + TRS + Congress - 71
Others -2

SA Parliament Segments (25)
TDP + BJP – 14
YSRCP – 10
Congress – 1

Telangana Parliament Segments (17)
Congress + TRS + MIM – 10
TDP + BJP – 7

Lagadapati is forgetting two political aspects in his survey. Lok Satta and AAP alliance that will attracts Youth votes and CM Kiran newly launched party targeting aspirants of “Samaikyandhra” voters. The results would change if he consider above two points.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 09 Jan 2014 00:04

RajeshA wrote:Published on Jan 08, 2014
By Chowdary Sirisha
Lagadapati Latest Survey!: AP Herald

Everyone is curious and anxious on outcome of the 2014 general elections in the state. Vijayawada MP Lagadapati Rajagopal is done it again. All his surveys and the results were matched. Last month too he predicted the results of the four states and expects severe political loss to the Congress. Making survey has taken as hobby for Lagadapati. A pre-poll survey, reportedly conducted by Vijayawada MP Lagadapati Rajagopal has given boost to the Telugu Desam Party. Lagadapati surveys always proved exact or almost near to exact results.

The following are the outcome of his survey in SA and Telangana Assembly Segments.

Seemandhra Assembly Segments (175)
TDP + BJP -93
YSRCP -71
Congress – 9
Others -2

Telangana Assembly Segments (119)
TDP + BJP – 46
MIM + TRS + Congress - 71
Others -2

SA Parliament Segments (25)
TDP + BJP – 14
YSRCP – 10
Congress – 1

Telangana Parliament Segments (17)
Congress + TRS + MIM – 10
TDP + BJP – 7

Lagadapati is forgetting two political aspects in his survey. Lok Satta and AAP alliance that will attracts Youth votes and CM Kiran newly launched party targeting aspirants of “Samaikyandhra” voters. The results would change if he consider above two points.

this is fairly right as things stand. AAP+LosSatta will not get any votes that can be called significant in AP lands.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 09 Jan 2014 00:28

Muppalla ji,

This Lagadapati Survey does not say whether it is dependent on success of AP Reorganization Bill. Also there seems to be an assumption that TRS would go with Congress and MIM in Telangana.

It can turn out differently regardless of outcome of Telangana Bill. TRS could decide to align with BJP and TDP, either in Telangana State or in United AP. Reason being, being part of the Government at the Center.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 09 Jan 2014 00:36

RajeshA wrote:Published on Jan 08, 2014
By Chowdary Sirisha
Lagadapati Latest Survey!: AP Herald

Everyone is curious and anxious on outcome of the 2014 general elections in the state. Vijayawada MP Lagadapati Rajagopal is done it again. All his surveys and the results were matched. Last month too he predicted the results of the four states and expects severe political loss to the Congress. Making survey has taken as hobby for Lagadapati. A pre-poll survey, reportedly conducted by Vijayawada MP Lagadapati Rajagopal has given boost to the Telugu Desam Party. Lagadapati surveys always proved exact or almost near to exact results.

The following are the outcome of his survey in SA and Telangana Assembly Segments.

Seemandhra Assembly Segments (175)
TDP + BJP -93
YSRCP -71
Congress – 9
Others -2

Telangana Assembly Segments (119)
TDP + BJP – 46
MIM + TRS + Congress - 71
Others -2

SA Parliament Segments (25)
TDP + BJP – 14
YSRCP – 10
Congress – 1

Telangana Parliament Segments (17)
Congress + TRS + MIM – 10
TDP + BJP – 7

Lagadapati is forgetting two political aspects in his survey. Lok Satta and AAP alliance that will attracts Youth votes and CM Kiran newly launched party targeting aspirants of “Samaikyandhra” voters. The results would change if he consider above two points.

These numbers fairly matches my post in October. Reasonable predictions for elections can be made from Feb only. With JC Diwarakar Reddy&brothers and some Kurnool leaders/MLAs/minister joining TDP, the encirclement of YSRC land will fructify. Kapunadu (caste group) is throwing its wait behind TDP. A lot of INC leaders are waiting for jumping into TDP or YSRC. We'll only know what will happen to them in Feb.

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 6#p1527686

ShyamSP wrote:TRS 13/17 means Congress gets only 3/17 and MIM as usual 1. Why would Congress give away its strongholds to TRS. If they share Congress only, Survey folks are thinking Congress surrenders and takes 3 but gives 13 to TRS? Now Khammam is in TDP kitty and a few more are possible winners for TDP+BJP.

YSR 13 without Congress alliance is tough. Beyond 2-3 districts, you start getting Congressmen who are not that keen on YSRC and can go against YSRC and if AP splits against INC. TDP already has 4 in Seemandhra and given strong current in Delta districts and Uttar Andhra, 15 can be expected.

INC+ may be 22
TDP+ may be 20

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 09 Jan 2014 00:40

RajeshA ji, that will not significantly change from the above. The only thing due to campaigning, the votes of TDP, BJP and TRS will increase and that of YSRC and INC will decrease. There is no change for any rise of votes to YSRC or INC.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 09 Jan 2014 00:46

Muppalla wrote:RajeshA ji, that will not significantly change from the above. The only thing due to campaigning, the votes of TDP, BJP and TRS will increase and that of YSRC and INC will decrease. There is no change for any rise of votes to YSRC or INC.

Muppalla ji,

What is the history Lagadapati's surveys, are they on dot. Twitter is abuzz that he is usually accurate. If that is case, damn it, BJP/TDP/TRS might well have 30 of the 42 seats from AP.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 09 Jan 2014 00:52

Muppalla ji,

My question referred to who forms the State Government(s).
If there is no bifurcation, then BJP + TDP have a good chance of getting more than 148, though from the survey it appears they may not reach the target (139). If they do not, TRS could still join them and they could together form a government.

If there is bifurcation, then BJP + TDP would be forming govt in Seemandhara. But it is not necessary that TRS would form a govt. in Telangana with Congress and MIM. TRS can opt to still join with BJP + TDP and form the govt there also, as it would allow TRS to be represented at the Center too.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 09 Jan 2014 00:53

RajeshA wrote:Muppalla ji,

This Lagadapati Survey does not say whether it is dependent on success of AP Reorganization Bill. Also there seems to be an assumption that TRS would go with Congress and MIM in Telangana.

It can turn out differently regardless of outcome of Telangana Bill. TRS could decide to align with BJP and TDP, either in Telangana State or in United AP. Reason being, being part of the Government at the Center.

Regardless of Telangana, TDP and YSRC positions are pretty much locked in Seemandhra. It will be who gets more vote share between TDP and YSRC while Congress will be minor player in a few constituencies. BJP is no player at all.

In Telangana, there will be jockeying. INC+TRS and TDP+BJP looks to be 60:40 as of now under current setting. INC has better grip on TRS. However, if BJP sacrifices seats to TRS since TDP won't be willing to cut down its seats to be contested, there is possibility of TRS coming to TDP+BJP. In such scenario they can empty INC from Telangana also. But BJP will have to compromise on whole strategy of building its own base in Telangana as T-BJP is claiming they are doing.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 09 Jan 2014 01:05

ShyamSP wrote: Regardless of Telangana, TDP and YSRC positions are pretty much locked in Seemandhra. It will be who gets more vote share between TDP and YSRC while Congress will be minor player in a few constituencies. BJP is no player at all.

In Telangana, there will be jockeying. INC+TRS and TDP+BJP looks to be 60:40 as of now under current setting. INC has better grip on TRS. However, if BJP sacrifices seats to TRS since TDP won't be willing to cut down its seats to be contested, there is possibility of TRS coming to TDP+BJP. In such scenario they can empty INC from Telangana also. But BJP will have to compromise on whole strategy of building its own base in Telangana as T-BJP is claiming they are doing.

ShyamSP-ji,
With all due respect, it depends on how BJP votes in the Telangana Bill when (if) it comes up for voting in the Lok Sabha. Here is an article that the Nuziveedu seeds head Prabhakara Rao plans to join BJP and contest from Guntur.

http://ap24x7news.com/te/1401/owner-of- ... -18733.php

I am getting inputs that Rayapati, Lagadapati, and Vundavalli Arun Kumar have all agreed to join with BJP once it votes against the Telangana bill

http://www.apherald.com/Politics/ViewAr ... into-BJP-/

If these characters come to the BJP, it will help BJP to an extent in SeemaAndhra. How much is open to argument, but these are heavyweights in their own right. They will be bringing in parts of their own votebanks along with them. So - if these people all join in with the BJP, it won't be a non-entity in SeemaAndhra. Particularly if BJP votes against the Telangana bill, it will eat into a bit of the United Andhra votebank.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 09 Jan 2014 01:11

muraliravi wrote:
Muppalla wrote:RajeshA ji, that will not significantly change from the above. The only thing due to campaigning, the votes of TDP, BJP and TRS will increase and that of YSRC and INC will decrease. There is no change for any rise of votes to YSRC or INC.
Muppalla ji,

What is the history Lagadapati's surveys, are they on dot. Twitter is abuzz that he is usually accurate. If that is case, damn it, BJP/TDP/TRS might well have 30 of the 42 seats from AP.

his agency is mostly on dot. I bet he will do again after he jumps to BJP

in Feb 2nd week

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 09 Jan 2014 01:21

nageshks wrote:ShyamSP-ji,
With all due respect, it depends on how BJP votes in the Telangana Bill when (if) it comes up for voting in the Lok Sabha. Here is an article that the Nuziveedu seeds head Prabhakara Rao plans to join BJP and contest from Guntur.

http://ap24x7news.com/te/1401/owner-of- ... -18733.php

I am getting inputs that Rayapati, Lagadapati, and Vundavalli Arun Kumar have all agreed to join with BJP once it votes against the Telangana bill

http://www.apherald.com/Politics/ViewAr ... into-BJP-/

If these characters come to the BJP, it will help BJP to an extent in SeemaAndhra. How much is open to argument, but these are heavyweights in their own right. They will be bringing in parts of their own votebanks along with them. So - if these people all join in with the BJP, it won't be a non-entity in SeemaAndhra. Particularly if BJP votes against the Telangana bill, it will eat into a bit of the United Andhra votebank.

That is why it is a flux. Lagdapati's survey is right based on what is today. Once T bill status comes out after Feb, there will be new factors of folks jumping around. There are two more timelines to watch for surveys. One is after Feb 2nd week and other is just after candidates finalization.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 09 Jan 2014 06:46

if TDP+BJP get 7 LS seats and 46 Assembly seats in Telangana, that will be a minor miracle.

Dasari · Post by **Dasari** » 09 Jan 2014 10:02

devesh wrote:if TDP+BJP get 7 LS seats and 46 Assembly seats in Telangana, that will be a minor miracle.

This is only possible under two conditions: 1. The division was not done 2. The state assembly completely rejected the bill and exposed huge loop holes in th bill, proving the bill was rushed without proper due deligence, thus giving legitimate reason for BJP to reject it

If the bill is passed , the Telangana seats will be split between TRS and Congress and there is no room for others even if BJP approved the bill. The only way BJP can win is by an alliance with TRS which is very unlikely considering the closeness of many congress leaders with TRS. On SA side a TDP+BJP alliance would be a disaster by becoming an easy target for YSRCP.

if the bill is not passed, a TDP+BJP alliance will have clear advantage in SA. They may even get 15-18 seats.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 10 Jan 2014 00:01

The guy who made the statue and the one who commissioned it should have their head psychologically examined.

Wouldn't be surprised if Freudian impluses are at work.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 11 Jan 2014 01:29

Interesting in AP Assembly:

http://www.andhraheadlines.com/state/no ... 25588.html

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 14 Jan 2014 06:35

Polling to 55 Rajya Sabha Seats on February 7, Says EC

The Election Commission has advanced the biennial elections to the 55 Rajya Sabha seats to February 7.

Announcing the Rajya Sabha poll schedule on Monday, the Election Commission said that it would hold elections to the 55 seats falling vacant in the states of Maharastra, Odisha, Tamil Nadu, West Bengal, Andhra Pradesh, Assam, Bihar, Chattisgarh, Gujarat, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Jharkhand, Madhya Pradesh, Manipur, Rajasthan and Meghalaya.

In all these states, there were recent elections in which BJP swept them. So chances are that from Gujarat, Rajasthan, MP, most RS members would be from BJP.

That means that the numbers in RS for passing the Andhra Pradesh Reorganization Bill would not be there.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 14 Jan 2014 12:47

In fact in 6 seats of AP as per the present number mafia can win 3 but as most of the voters or non Telangana MLAs it is now doubtful. TDP will get 2 and there will be considerable cross voting and most of the people in congress are offering to join TDP with serious erosion in Karnool etc in Rayalaseema and in Guntoor and Vijayawada areas.

Real estate prices in Vijayawada are increasing like anything.

Abhijit · Post by **Abhijit** » 14 Jan 2014 22:39

ramana wrote:The guy who made the statue and the one who commissioned it should have their head psychologically examined.

Wouldn't be surprised if Freudian impluses are at work.

who supplied the measurements? hain ji?

Dasari · Post by **Dasari** » 15 Jan 2014 10:58

RajeshA wrote:Polling to 55 Rajya Sabha Seats on February 7, Says EC

The Election Commission has advanced the biennial elections to the 55 Rajya Sabha seats to February 7.

Announcing the Rajya Sabha poll schedule on Monday, the Election Commission said that it would hold elections to the 55 seats falling vacant in the states of Maharastra, Odisha, Tamil Nadu, West Bengal, Andhra Pradesh, Assam, Bihar, Chattisgarh, Gujarat, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Jharkhand, Madhya Pradesh, Manipur, Rajasthan and Meghalaya.
In all these states, there were recent elections in which BJP swept them. So chances are that from Gujarat, Rajasthan, MP, most RS members would be from BJP.

That means that the numbers in RS for passing the Andhra Pradesh Reorganization Bill would not be there.

It will only matter if BJP opposes the bill. Even today BJP said that they will vote for the bill. If the assembly passes a resolution for united AP or defeats each clause with voting, then BJP may have some room to manuever. Otherwise they got trapped to approve the bill.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 21 Jan 2014 20:54

Debate on Telangana bill revolves around Nizam

A large part of the debate on the draft Andhra Pradesh Reorganisation Bill, 2013 in the state Assembly today centered around the erstwhile Nizam, ruler of Hyderabad state, with Seemandhra members criticising him and those from Telangana showering praise.

TRS floor leader Etela Rajender said Nizam was a great ruler, though there was some oppression during his tenure.
[only some oppression ? lol.]

MIM floor leader Akbaruddin Owaisi said it was only the Nizam who developed Hyderabad and the erstwhile Hyderabad state.

"No one else can claim to have developed Hyderabad," he said, taking a dig at TDP chief N Chandrababu Naidu who had been claiming to have developed Hyderabad into a world-class city during his tenure as Chief Minister between 1995 and 2004.

"We are proud of Nizam and the Nizam's rule," Akbaruddin said.
[Razakar genes]

Row in Andhra house over remarks on Nizam

TDP legislator D. Narendra criticized Owaisi for praising Nizam and pointed out that he suppressed people fighting for independence.

Earlier, MIM lawmakers rushed towards the speaker's podium when TDP member P. Keshav made certain remarks against Nizam while speaking about the Telangana armed struggle against his tyrannical rule.

Opposing the demand for separate statehood to Telangana, Keshav accused TRS and other pro-Telangana groups of distorting history to justify the state's division. He said Telangana armed struggle by the Communists was not against Andhra but was against landlords and the oppressive rule of the Nizam.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 22 Jan 2014 02:07

It is not enough to have these conversations in Assembly. TRS has every right to speak its mind. They have the constitution-given right. and I don't oppose them for expressing their freedom. Just as I advocate to real-life backers of TRS, I advise even on BRF that TRS should bring this out in the open. I think the public deserve to know and TRS has every right to express its opinions.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 22 Jan 2014 08:57

devesh wrote:It is not enough to have these conversations in Assembly. TRS has every right to speak its mind. They have the constitution-given right. and I don't oppose them for expressing their freedom. Just as I advocate to real-life backers of TRS, I advise even on BRF that TRS should bring this out in the open. I think the public deserve to know and TRS has every right to express its opinions.

+100

So far only one leader from TRS was open on TV (I forgot his name). He said that India occupied Telangana in 1948 otherwise they were a free country before

.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 25 Jan 2014 19:57

What's going on in the strife torn region called AP?

Debate over smaller states should conform to democratic norms, says Pranab Mukherjee

"A democratic nation is always involved in argument with itself. This is welcome, for we solve problems through discussion and consent, not force," he said in his address on the eve of 65th Republic Day.

However, he said that healthy differences of opinion must not lead to an unhealthy strife within the polity.

"Passions are rising over whether we should have smaller states to extend equitable development to all parts of a state,” Pranab Mukherjee said.

"A debate is legitimate but it should conform to democratic norms. The politics of divide and rule has extracted a heavy price on our subcontinent. If we do not work together, nothing ever will work," he said.

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 25 Jan 2014 20:05

Muppalla wrote:
devesh wrote:It is not enough to have these conversations in Assembly. TRS has every right to speak its mind. They have the constitution-given right. and I don't oppose them for expressing their freedom. Just as I advocate to real-life backers of TRS, I advise even on BRF that TRS should bring this out in the open. I think the public deserve to know and TRS has every right to express its opinions.
+100

So far only one leader from TRS was open on TV (I forgot his name). He said that India occupied Telangana in 1948 otherwise they were a free country before .

Presumably, by "free" he means they had the freedom to supply their women to warm the beds of Razakars and Nizam aristocracy. This is an example of typical Hindu mentality -- happy to be the slave of Muslims than live free with other Hindus (with whom he will be always picking fights).

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 25 Jan 2014 20:49

Can anyone list INC/ Jagan and gang achivements in AP in the last 10 years,

1) Bankrupting the state through efficient Jalnagyam projects

2) bringing growth to a standstill

3) Increasing per capita consumption of liquor many times

4) Making half the state hate the other half.

If not for 10 years of CBN/NDA rule and NTR before that this state would not have been better than Bihar if it had only INC rule inspite of abundant resources and talent.

Dasari · Post by **Dasari** » 25 Jan 2014 21:35

Kiran Kumar Reddy's performance in assembly is awesome. He is a true star batsman for united AP. I still believe few more weapons ih his armoury to send a strong and loud message to Parliament that the curent division is not acceptable to majority of AP. If he succeeds in this, BJP will do the rest to stall the bill in parliament. I suggest that he come out of Congress and join hands with TDP and BJP. I know personally that some of his close aids are planning to move to TDP or BJP. Next 4 weeks will be the most critical month for AP for its survival since the formation of AP - full of drama and suspense. Everyday, every action and every speech can move the needle towards stalling the division. When the polls and surveys are unequivocally pointing to the rout of Congress in SA with very little gains in T, it is absolute ego and 'Moorkhatwam' for the mafia queen to personally champion this division. But I'm glad AP is doing its part to bring curtain down on this dynasty.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 25 Jan 2014 21:59

If this division is sounding death knell to Congis in upcoming GE then they should be encouraged to proceed. BJP is never going to win big in AP so either way it does not matter for them .

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 25 Jan 2014 22:59

SanjayC wrote:
Presumably, by "free" he means they had the freedom to supply their women to warm the beds of Razakars and Nizam aristocracy. This is an example of typical Hindu mentality -- happy to be the slave of Muslims than live free with other Hindus (with whom he will be always picking fights).

speak for yourself. actually, the Telangana feudals did not supply women. the only behavior pattern in which they differ from their northern brethren. and this was/is not "Hindu mentality". the elites in power exhibited this behavior, so yes they do deserve the blame. the Aam (especially in Telangana) stayed the hell away from any such "relationship" with Muslims when they were in power.

that region has historically displayed some of the lowest success rate for Love Jihad. ironically, this is true even for the bootlicking feudals. they did not indulge in supplying women from their families. a peculiar exception.

Dasari · Post by **Dasari** » 25 Jan 2014 23:33

chaanakya wrote:If this division is sounding death knell to Congis in upcoming GE then they should be encouraged to proceed. BJP is never going to win big in AP so either way it does not matter for them .

Two comments: 1. Let us not make the death knell for Congress as death knell for AP. If at all division is to be done (i personally think it is too late to stop it), let us do it more scientifically and more fairly, so that both sides minimize the damage. I strongly believe if the division is done under the auspices of BJP, it will be done less politically but more logically. 2. I don't agree that BJP cannot win in AP. I'm from the city that elected the first BJP mayor, and if i remember correct, the first BJP MLA from the state (back in 1978). Without going into the history why they failed to capitalise this, they got golden opportunity now to enter SA by filling the political vaccum by championing its cause. With partnership with TDP, they can comensate lack of cadre and win at least 5 seats from SA- Visakhapatnam, Rajahmundry, Tirupathi, Guntur, and Nellore or Hindupur. It also depends on few key Congress leaders jumping into TDP. For example Sabbam Hari is key for Visakhapatnam area. Rayapati is key for Guntur. All of these moves are in works as we speak. What is required is a strong and loud message from assembly rejecting the bill, and BJP doing the rest.

Dasari · Post by **Dasari** » 25 Jan 2014 23:51

One more thing. With division it may be a death knell for main congress in SA region but they are still alive through their proxy, YSR congress. If division happens, YSRC will win landslide in SA. That is the main reason why Congress HC pushed for this. On the other hand, division does no good for BJP on both sides.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 26 Jan 2014 23:29

I don't think that division of AP would be death knell for it. Both regions would prosper depending on their political leadership.State boundaries are artificial constructs and not having historical linkages hence bound to change based on many factors , language and economy are two such. SA people are getting emotionally invested in Unitedness of existing AP and hence unlikely to see that the other side is wanting division for genuine reasons.

As for BJP gaining in united or divided Ap, I think only time will tell. one or two people can not guarantee that. They can take this opportunity only if they had solid organisation and large people following. So far I don't see evidence of this. One Venkaiah Naidu is not enough.

As regards logical division , I would be skeptical of any such notion as it is driven mostly by existing district boundaries and constituencies . Some spillover would always remain keeping residents in border areas dissatisfied.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 Jan 2014 04:44

whatever it is, I think KKR is creating constitutional question mark. He is sending the bill back to center. Per constitution state government has all rights to reject for inaccuracies. They now have to send a new bill to AP assembly with another set of timeline to go over the bill. Read the "due democratic process" for small states from president's address in this context. He has no reason to include the small states stuff as part of republic day speech other than the process going on related to AP division.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Jan 2014 00:15

Something from Outlook

http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?289300

Telangana Tangle

The Andhra Pradesh Assembly is debating the Telangana statehood draft Bill amid dramatic scenes and Chief Minister Kiran Kumar Reddy is leaving no stone unturned to stress his opposition to bifurcation. Meanwhile, YSR Congress chief Jaganmohan Reddy, who is on his Samaikhya Shankaravam yatra, is taking it slow. Jagan's yatra from Kuppam to Srikakulam has been dragging on at a lazy pace which in turn is worrying the cadre. Amid reports that Jagan's party is not exactly gathering the kind of momentum it was expected to, after he got out of prison on bail, party workers are a worried lot. The YSR Congress has also decided not to put up any candidates for the Rajya Sabha polls which has put the Congress rebels who defected to Jagan's party in a quandary. Jagan is continuing to promise a golden rule if elected to power but as of now, he does not seem to be revealing all his cards.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 28 Jan 2014 02:54

Vundavalli Arun Kumar interview

Listen to what he says about Nizam rule and TRS clapping for Nizam

Listen to what he says about Sonia Gandhi, "high command" and Kiran Kumar Reddy

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Jan 2014 03:00

The guy with the black mustache I saw in TANA 2011.
He is a genuine sleazeball.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 28 Jan 2014 19:01

ramana wrote:The guy with the black mustache I saw in TANA 2011.
He is a genuine sleazeball.

Who is he?

bhavani · Post by **bhavani** » 28 Jan 2014 22:38

he is the Editor in chief of Andhra Jyothi. He was once a big time follower of CBN. Now is a self styled civil society guy, trying to style himself on the lines of Burkha Dutt

Dasari · Post by **Dasari** » 29 Jan 2014 08:25

chaanakya wrote:I don't think that division of AP would be death knell for it. Both regions would prosper depending on their political leadership.State boundaries are artificial constructs and not having historical linkages hence bound to change based on many factors , language and economy are two such. SA people are getting emotionally invested in Unitedness of existing AP and hence unlikely to see that the other side is wanting division for genuine reasons.

As for BJP gaining in united or divided Ap, I think only time will tell. one or two people can not guarantee that. They can take this opportunity only if they had solid organisation and large people following. So far I don't see evidence of this. One Venkaiah Naidu is not enough.

As regards logical division , I would be skeptical of any such notion as it is driven mostly by existing district boundaries and constituencies . Some spillover would always remain keeping residents in border areas dissatisfied.

State boundaries don't matter much, it is the political leaders that matter? Then why is the division that important? Is the emotional blackmail of separatists a better investment for opportunistic politicians? I can write volumes on the subject of so called this fake 'genuine' reasons. Stop the moral crap and focus on the subject here which is completely political.

The political gains for a party always come in spurts based on some burning issues faced by people or the political vacuum. BJP going from 2 seats to 200 seats or NTR going from 0 to 185 all come in waves. There is a huge opportunity for BJP to fill in SA. 30 years is a long time to make a single leader in the form of Venkaiah Naidu. These are kind of opportunities they need to take to win people's confidence.