Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 11 Jan 2014 18:15

Shonu wrote:The way pAAPis are behaving is giving me disgusting feeling that INC is better than them.. yuck!

That's the goal of DIEnasty. Looks like the morons are helping the Queen Bee with that

subhamoy.das · Post by **subhamoy.das** » 11 Jan 2014 18:20

So now these votes will go back to congress(I) or take a detour for BJP ? Voters will soon realize that they have shot them selves in their feet. Will shiela get back her seat or HV become the cm ? I would say that some votes will go back to congress but most to BJP.

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 11 Jan 2014 18:30

Am trying to picture this darbar thing on a national scale but its just too far out and my brain can't do it. Millions of people asking for relief from the sultanate on power bill, kid's school admission, gas connection, ration card, rent, property dispute? First person to fight his way to the sultan's table wins regardless of the legality of his request?

If Delhites can't see kejriwal and his band as dangerous frauds with a sinister agenda and absolutely no intention or capability to govern, they deserve him. If enough Indians can't see it, we are simply not ready to be free. The next chance will come after an entire generation gets cleaned out of the system or learns the hard way in 30 years.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 11 Jan 2014 18:34

subhamoy.das wrote:So now these votes will go back to congress(I) or take a detour for BJP ? Voters will soon realize that they have shot them selves in their feet. Will shiela get back her seat or HV become the cm ? I would say that some votes will go back to congress but most to BJP.

The honeymoon is not yet over. The dumbos will try new tricks to keep the honeymoon until May to see how many people they can fool to Stop Modi

JohnTitor · Post by **JohnTitor** » 11 Jan 2014 18:38

There is an entire website dedicated to him.. please choose a subject within the site and tweet

http://www.knowarvindkejriwal.com/

@LucidWitness

member_28352 · Post by **member_28352** » 11 Jan 2014 18:42

^^^Hazrat sahab has the psychological profile of a dictator. That is the genesis of the my way or highway approach. He genuinely believes that he is doing things the right way. In addition he is also a charlatan. Expect him to tell his drone brained AAPturds that I can't do anything much because I don't have enough powers. So please make me a dictator. I will solve every problem for you. It has truly been said that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

JohnTitor · Post by **JohnTitor** » 11 Jan 2014 19:06

I can't believe I have actually managed to push this video on teetar. Didn't realise SM was this powerful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHr3Glhkgt0

Seen people starting to RT since I started tweeting it !

We can do this, AK will become a complete joke by May. Mark my words! But I have to be honest, AK is helping me with it

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 11 Jan 2014 19:15

What happened to the Jan Lokpal bill that AK and his team had promised to pass before 31st Dec ?

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 11 Jan 2014 19:27

pankajs wrote:CM Kejriwal’s first Janata Darbar: Protests, anger and chaos
Many citizens were angry at the chaos and at the prospect of not being able to meet the CM. "The common man is being a made a fool of. All this is just a show. Our work will never get done," said resident from Rajinder Nagar, who said he wanted to meet the CM about the illegal cancellation of a DDA plot that was alloted to him.{ Bhat??? Nat even the moonhoney is over yet.}

Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/cm-ke ... ef_article

Pankajs-ji,
Here are the more inventive and creative people profiting from the chaos at Kejri Jan Sabha (see - so many jobs created!). Is this all part of the new economy?

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 684384.cms

bhargava · Post by **bhargava** » 11 Jan 2014 19:59

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 11 Jan 2014 20:00

Pee Vee ‏@PingVond 5m
#AUG is receiving some really interesting inputs from Karnataka- says post Yeddy return, things are changng dramatically for BJP.

Pee Vee ‏@PingVond 4m
#AUG also in the coastal belt ppl are returning back to BJP in big way- BJP cud, if trend continues, repeat or close on to 2009 performance

*******

Added Later:
I see bhargava ji, posted exactly the same tweets earlier.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 11 Jan 2014 20:02

I think in a few months, we all will see how ch*yAAPa this fella is.. pathetic governance or even plans so far.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 11 Jan 2014 20:11

RajeshA wrote:Just like in mainstream media, where Kejriwal ka Bhoot has relegated every thing to oblivion, including the results in Rajasthan, MP and Chhattisgarh, same way this thread has pushed out all other election news!

This thread should have been about surveys, alliances, mergers, constituencies, ticket distribution, political strength of various politicians, etc. Now it is all about Hazrat Kejriwal! Pity!

No RajeshA ji, don't look at it this way.

You have to assess whether Indians go from one extreme to other as easily as say a lay amerikhan or not.

Indians do not because of various reasons. This Kejriwal effect is, in essence, the 'Idea of Turd Front'. In next 2-3 months people would get immunized with the very idea of a hodge-podge govt. Or even if they still end up justifying their stupidity they would after the hung situation face their own stupidity with confidence. Think of things in essence. The level at which ideas touch the lives of the people.

Just witness the mass contact that AAP did by its Dilli Darbar. Most people there would have returned with broken hearts. They will off course try again. Such is this silly thing called Hope. Like a gambler losing ever more wealth. Till finally the realization would dawn.

But yes we must restart the NaMo and Gujarat experience. Gujarat experience must be contrasted with Dilli experience.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 11 Jan 2014 20:13

congress is playing AAP against BJP using media for LS 2014, this is what plan is so far.

Arunkumar · Post by **Arunkumar** » 11 Jan 2014 20:20

VikasRaina wrote:What happened to the Jan Lokpal bill that AK and his team had promised to pass before 31st Dec ?

Waiting for January to get over and then rename it to Feb lokpal bill and so on.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 11 Jan 2014 20:21

muraliravi wrote:Some good news, here is a survey. They did not survey aap specifically but the survey is done after all the recent media blitz. They see aap damaging bjp in delhi, haryana and maha . But overall bjp gets 210 with 50 from UP

http://m.economictimes.com/markets/stoc ... 653539.cms

I am telling the last paragraph several times to all my friends but worried folks. Good.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 11 Jan 2014 20:33

RajeshA wrote:Pee Vee ‏@PingVond 5m
#AUG is receiving some really interesting inputs from Karnataka- says post Yeddy return, things are changng dramatically for BJP.

Pee Vee ‏@PingVond 4m
#AUG also in the coastal belt ppl are returning back to BJP in big way- BJP cud, if trend continues, repeat or close on to 2009 performance

*******

Added Later:
I see bhargava ji, posted exactly the same tweets earlier.

RajeshA-ji,
From my own inputs in Karnataka, both the coastal belt and the Bombay Karnataka area are likely to swing back to the BJP. But these were the BJP strongholds (BJP has been winning Mangalore since 1991, Karwar since 1996). And Yediyurappa is actually very weak on the coast (he polled less than 2% of the vote on the coast). This is the Sangh stronghold, and the turnaround is really the work of the RSS and its affiliates (many of them, seeing the internecine warfare in BJP, had chosen to become inert in Assembly elections). Yediyurappa is a bit more relevant in Bombay Karnataka, but not a great deal. However, it is important to remember that these two areas, together, account for 3 and 6 seats only respectively. Even if BJP wins all of them (quite possible, by the way, with the return of both Basanagouda Patil Yatnal and Yediyurappa), the BJP will have won 9 seats.

For the BJP to repeat its 2009 tally, Hyderabad Karnataka and central Karnataka will have to swing round to the BJP. These are Yediyurappa's strongholds, but JD(S) is quite strong in many of these places. BJP's best bet is to gain with these JD(S) voters quickly, and get their votes. In central Karnataka, Bellary is definitely lost (Sreeramulu and Reddies are too great a spoiler for BJP to win without their help). BJP and KJP performed extremely badly in Davanagere, and Chitradurga. BJP lost in long standing strongholds like Mayakonda. I am not sure they can turn round these two constituencies. Shimoga is going to root for Yediyurappa, most likely. That leaves Tumkur, which will be a battleground seat. And here, I am getting positive inputs.

In Hyderabad Karnataka area, BJP's best chances are in the north, viz, Bidar and Gulbarga. Raichur and Koppal are regions where the BJP was never very strong - they won last time only on the basis of Yediyurappa's appeal. It remains to be seen if he can repeat this magic in these seats. All four, particularly Bidar, Gulbarga and Koppal will be battleground seats.

Apart from these, the 3 Bangalore city seats are going to be tough for the BJP. Here, Yediyurappa's return will hurt more than help. People of Bangalore, particularly the educated elite, often see Yediyurappa as corrupt (thanks to some shrill media campaign). In the absence of Yediyurappa in the Assembly elections, the BJP won 12 out of 26 Assembly seats. They will need some strong dose of Modi magic to help here. Good candidates will be vital. Replacing AK with someone more attractive, particularly to the educated community, may be a very good idea.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 11 Jan 2014 20:38

arvin wrote:
VikasRaina wrote:What happened to the Jan Lokpal bill that AK and his team had promised to pass before 31st Dec ?
Waiting for January to get over and then rename it to Feb lokpal bill and so on.

you read his mind , it has been now promised by Feb

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 11 Jan 2014 20:50

nageshks ji,

thanks for the info. Can BJP rope in some strong young Vokkaliga leaders till election say in Bangalore Rural and Mandya seats? If Congress can defeat JD(S) then BJP could do it too.

Basically there is no game for JD(S) in Lok Sabha Elections. Which Front are they representing? Third Front, UPA? Congress showed that JD(S) is weak.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 11 Jan 2014 21:27

Some Political Sarcasm

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 11 Jan 2014 22:01

I think the darbaar is a very good idea. It is actually a Hindhu idea followed from ancient times, so that people could directly approach the rulers(not necessarily the monarch). This was followed by the rulers from Shri Rama onwards. Rajpuths seem to have followed it. Mughals may have copied this from Rajpuths. So, this idea is not a Mughal idea.

The concept behind this idea is that people should be able to circumvent the babucracy and various other red tapes. This also allows the rulers to know the mood and needs of the people directly. The dynasty(or for that matter any ruler) would benefit immensely from this idea. The chaos that happened in fordriwal's darbaar is a representative of the ground situation. If there was no darbaar, the situation would not be known and can be masked.

These darbaars can be used to effectively identify bottlenecks and address corruption and inefficiency in babucracy and delivery mechanism. If it was managed properly(in phases) and connected to servers, then it can be a very effective mechanism. But such darbaars need to happen regularly instead of once in a blue moon. Chandrababu Naidu had started a programme of allowing the people to call him. It was pretty popular with people. Many other CMs also hold darbaars.

It seems Shri Rama used to allot an hour everyday when people could directly come and complaint to him. Lets not thrash the idea due to Fordriwal's poor implementation.

RajeshA wrote:Just like in mainstream media, where Kejriwal ka Bhoot has relegated every thing to oblivion, including the results in Rajasthan, MP and Chhattisgarh, same way this thread has pushed out all other election news!

This thread should have been about surveys, alliances, mergers, constituencies, ticket distribution, political strength of various politicians, etc. Now it is all about Hazrat Kejriwal! Pity!

I think Fordriwal should be discussed as part of the larger west spawned movements and parties(and other interventions in other countries). Maybe a separate thread should be started to discuss western intervention through such proxies.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 11 Jan 2014 22:22

Garu this is emotional blackmailing

.

Durbar make sense only if the population of the whole world is only 1 Crore and people travel 2-3 days to reach the ruler seeking help on matters they cannot resolve by themselves.

The junata of Delhi NCR alone is 2 Cr. today and these things do not work and cannot work. After all dharma gets served best when we change with times.

Like this:
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-sw ... ve-1405061

And here is what they claim they have achieved:
http://gil.gujarat.gov.in/swagat.html

And this is proof (comments section and dates of posts) enough that even if the claims are exaggerated (which I expect NaMo to do

BTW) the mango people are actually involved and feel involved:

http://www.narendramodi.in/swagat-onlin ... rievances/

Dekha kabhi kabhi chela bhi guru ko khuch sikha sakta hai.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 11 Jan 2014 22:33

I still think it is a good idea to merge the two political dhaagas....
x-posting.

SwamyG wrote:The way I see it Modi has a great opportunity to purge BJP of ineffective, criminal and corrupt leaders and infuse the party with young, charismatic rising leaders who display some semblance of honesty, integrity and clean image. Granted a complete overhaul is impractical, Modi can effect a balance.

When questioned, he can cite changing nature of politics, mood or the AAP effect. Under an effective and commanding leaders, the troops become effective too. New leaders/faces emerge and seek prominence and attention.

Baring a few, the BJP spokespeople and supporters on the TV debates look very effective, aggressive and uncompromising. They are almost saying "hamari marzi". They are listening to the Internet Hindus, and one can easily see the points flowing to them. Any sign that the BJP leaders are learning and utilizing them is very good sign.

AAP's rise and attention is very good for the country. Because, it will help BJP "further" reform itself & remove bad baggage. People's expectation and demands will have to be addressed by the political parties now. Congress will have to turn over too, if it has to survive.

If BJP wins 2014, I see a good future. Like MMS said.....good times ahead in 4 months. We just need to stock up on antacids till that time to deal with AAP, media and Congress. Modi already changed the political landscape in the last decade. 2013 has been very good for BJP and Modi - thereby the country. He needs to finish the run strong now. In the marathon, he has completed all the hard miles and entered the stadium with a few behind his feet now. He should watch out for anybody tripping him, and pick up the right partners.

Go Modi, clean BJP and set India on a glorious run.........

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 11 Jan 2014 23:09

RajeshA wrote:nageshks ji,

thanks for the info. Can BJP rope in some strong young Vokkaliga leaders till election say in Bangalore Rural and Mandya seats? If Congress can defeat JD(S) then BJP could do it too.

Basically there is no game for JD(S) in Lok Sabha Elections. Which Front are they representing? Third Front, UPA? Congress showed that JD(S) is weak.

RajeshA-ji,
There are no strong Vokkaliga leaders, capable of winning elections on their own, available for hire. D K Shivakumar has united one part of the Vokkaligas for the Cong., and another part are with JD(S). That leaves a very small part of the Vokkaligas for the BJP to target.

The enmity between Deve Gowda and Yediyurappa is legendary (goes back to the 90s, actually). Deve Gowda will do everything he can to sabotage Yediyurappa. It is impossible for the two to co-exist. JD(S) will find it hard to go with the Congress, too. It is the Congress that is Deve Gowda's real political opponent in his constituencies. BJP and JD(S) don't clash so much, politically. So, Deve Gowda will probably go with Third Front. If he wins any seat at all, that is.

The best thing the BJP can do, IMO (Gunjur-ji will disagree with me here), is to ideally integrate the KRRS (Sarvodaya Kannada Paksha now), or at least, get into an alliance with them. Their leader, K S Puttannaiah, has his own base among the Vokkaligas (much much smaller than what JD(S) or Cong. have, but nevertheless, substantial). It will give the BJP something to play for for the next election, along with creating a ground level cadre in Mandya, and bolstering the BJP cadre in Chamarajanagar and Mysore. For the coming election, there is very little that can be done.

However, apart from these things, the BJP should ideally get back Haladi Srinivasa Shetty (he is a BJP rebel - left in pique over ministry distribution.). He is a powerhouse on the coast, won as independent by some 50K votes in Kundapur, and can help BJP a lot in both Udupi-Chikmaglur and Karwar seats. He also has a clean image. The BJP can also try to get KMP, which can help in Bidar seat (this is also a BJP rebel party).

I just put together my thoughts on the BJP chances in southern old Mysore region sans Bangalore city seats. The region consists of seven seats, and here the BJP is at a huge disadvantage.

Kolar - BJP has only one seat here, Kolar Gold Fields. It is represented by the sole convicted former MLA Y Sampangi's sister, Y Ramakka (grapevine has it that Sampangi's conviction, on the charge of accepting Rs. 4.95 lakh actually helped his sister). BJP had another stronghold, Malur (represented by Krishnaiah Shetty), . Krishnaiah Shetty deserted the party when he was denied a ticked in 2013 (he also has a lot of corruption charges against him), but lost to the Congress. Not sure where this guy is now. BJP has no base in the rest of the constituency. All but impossible to win.

Chikkaballapur - Now this is a much more interesting constituency. BJP has one seat (Yelahanka represented by S R Vishwanath). BjP had a decent base all over the constituency, except for Kolar district constituencies, and actually has some good leaders (all of whom lost this time, but still powerful leaders in their own right). Hosakote (Bacche Gowda), Gauribidnur (Ravinarayana Reddy), and Doddaballapur (J Narasimhaswamy - poached in Operation Kamala, but still one of the clean leaders - he jumped because he was fed up with Congress.). The party is actually in half decent shape in this constituency. Siddaramaiah's contempt for all Lingayats and Vokkaligas can actually help the BJP here. If the party rallies around Bacche Gowda, or Narasimha Swamy. Maybe, just maybe BJP can pull this one off?

Bangalore Rural - Impossible to win here. All rural segments are under the firm control of a Congress powerhouse D K Shivakumar. Even JD(S) will lose this time, unless Kumaraswamy himself fights. Even then, odds are in favour of Congress. BJP does not exist in most rural segments.

Mandya - Again, fight is between Congress and JD(S). This is a fight between cadres, not big names. There are no big names here. Even Ambareesh has lost his sheen, and is your garden variety politician now. BJP has no cadre worth mentioning here (funnily enough, they had a decent base in the mid 90s - particularly in Nagamangala, and Malavalli). There is nothing BJP can do to win in Mandya.

Hassan - No chance for the BJP here. Their base has completely withered away, even in places like Arsikere, Belur and Sakaleshapura. However, it will decide Deve Gowda's relevance in the constituency. He is 81 now. If he loses, BJP has a chance to build its base in the district. It will be interesting to see whom Congress fields. They have some good people - S M Anand, B Shivaramu, etc. It is in BJP's interest to make sure Deve Gowda loses, so that they can step into the political vacuum for the next election.

Chamarajanagar - A curious constituency. KJP actually did decently, but a lot depends on the vote by the tribals and backward classes. BJP also has a good candidate - A R Krishnamurthy - here. The constituency is split up between economically well off OBCs and Lingayats on one side, and poor OBCs and Dalits on the other side (with considerable real blood being spilt in the fights). A lot depends on the candidates. But this is Siddaramaiah's constituency, so this may be hard for the BJP to win.

Mysore - This is a constituency where the BJP has a very good chance. The fact that this constituency includes Coorg (a traditional BJP stronghold) means that the BJP can pull it off. Last time, BJP lost narrowly because of tactical sabotage by JD(S) which fielded Jivijiya (a man from Coorg) against Vijayashankar (who had accumulated considerable anti-incumbency). But this time, with a strong base all over the district, disgust with Siddaramaiah's politics, and a good candidate, BJP can win. However, it would be foolhardy to take it for granted. It is still Siddaramaiah's district.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 11 Jan 2014 23:22

Already posted. Sorry.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 12 Jan 2014 00:04

Xpost
Social Media Impact?
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/10/opini ... .html?_r=1
Social Media in Indian Politics

Social media are playing an important new role in Indian democracy. A social media campaign by the Electoral Commission drew record levels of voter registration and turnout in elections held in four Indian states, including the capital, New Delhi, in November and December.
Of 790 million eligible Indian voters, about 160 million are first-time voters between the ages of 18 and 24 years old. Political parties are also embracing social media to reach voters, including cellphone messaging. Social media are credited with helping the new Common Man party and its candidate, Arvind Kejriwal, win a surprise victory in Delhi against the Congress and Bharatiya Janata parties.
But social media can also be subject to significant abuse. Some politicians have been accused of boosting their apparent popularity on social media with legions of followers who don’t exist and of using social media to smear their opponents. Worse, social media have been used to fan violence against religious and ethnic groups; the dissemination of a fraudulent video may have helped spark deadly clashes between Hindus and Muslims in the city of Muzaffarnagar in September.
Meanwhile, the Indian government has used the 2008 Information Technology (Amendment) Act to increase monitoring and censorship of social media. In 2012, two women were arrested after posting a comment on Facebook that angered politicians in Mumbai. Journalists have had their Twitter accounts disabled, and cartoonists whose works poke fun at officials have had their social media accounts closed. Last year, the government rolled out a Central Monitoring System with vast powers to monitor citizens’ communications. Human Rights Watch called the new system “chilling” in its scope. According to Freedom House, India had the steepest decline in Internet freedom of any country in the year ending in April 2013. The Electoral Commission of India has asked social media providers to monitor their sites for fraud in the run-up to the general elections in April this year. That would be helpful. But Indian voters must also demand that their government bring transparency and accountability to electronic surveillance.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 12 Jan 2014 00:09

nageshks ji,

thanks. Keep it coming.

I looked up KMP and Ashok Kheny. It looks like he is just as much a hot potato as BSR Congress. However some sort of tactical alliance with them for Bidar and Bellary may be a possibility.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 12 Jan 2014 00:10

There it is, cat is out of the bag, ye AAP ka chakkar choddo, here is congress' final and only weapon left:

http://www.sunday-guardian.com/buzzword

Congress offers PM chair to both Jaya, Maya

The Congress is offering the Prime Minister's chair to both J. Jayalalithaa and Mayawati if they agree not to join hands with Narendra Modi after the general elections. Buta Singh is talking to both Jaya and Maya for possible support in case of hung Parliament. In West Bengal, Ghulam Nabi Azad is holding back channel talks with Mamata Banerjee against Rahul Gandhi's wishes. Rahul has made it clear that since the West Bengal unit of the Congress is opposed to any truck with Mamata Banerjee, there is no question of any alliance with her. But when Azad was in Kolkata he shared the dais with Mamata at a public function and went on to announce that no AIIMS like institute would be opened in Raiganj, Congress MP and Union Minister Deepa Dasmunshi's constituency. Dasmunshi, who has been locked in a fight with Mamata on this, was dumbstruck.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 12 Jan 2014 00:34

interesting to , so wonder why gulab meet thatha

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 12 Jan 2014 00:39

Priyanka Gandhi to be used as Bramhastra (India Today)

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 12 Jan 2014 01:18

IndraD wrote:Priyanka Gandhi to be used as Bramhastra (India Today)

Kee Phark painda!

disha · Post by **disha** » 12 Jan 2014 01:27

IndraD wrote:Priyanka Gandhi to be used as Bramhastra (India Today)

Jai Ho! Pink Chaddi revolution!!

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 12 Jan 2014 01:29

disha wrote:
IndraD wrote:Priyanka Gandhi to be used as Bramhastra (India Today)
Jai Ho! Pink Chaddi revolution!!

Kirit Somaiya was helping Vasundhara inquire into Robert Vadra's land deals. Any idea about the status of the inquiry? Has the inquiry been ordered?

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 12 Jan 2014 02:17

how would jaya's peformance impact national politics? kala angrez has got high hopes. of course she is a lesser evil than dynasty, but more importantly what it means is kala angrez has already defeated. now, the next step is how we can remove them from history as well.

corruption or disruption are the only thing these kala angrez know. pathetic b@$turds. most disrupters including aap and mookaaps are their everlasting friends. we need to defeat them handsdown giving 2/3rd majority to modi. lets give it a whirl, and seed the change should be the mantra.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 12 Jan 2014 02:31

Times View regarding today's failed durbar is balancedhttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Too-much-janata-Kejriwals-first-darbar-ends-in-near-stampede/articleshow/28693442.cms ---'They seem to think that what they need to do is to ensure a better organized Janata durbar next time, with arrangements for an even larger crowd to be accommodated and managed. That is the wrong lesson. Governance needs a sound structure'.
AK has refused to learn lessons from this fiasco, he kept blabbering that this is real democracy not anarchy and has vowed to organize next durbar in stadium with capacity for 25000. He will do tabad tod insaaf, no case no FIR, faisla on the spot.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 12 Jan 2014 02:34

all it takes is one stampede

disha · Post by **disha** » 12 Jan 2014 02:39

nageshks wrote: Kirit Somaiya was helping Vasundhara inquire into Robert Vadra's land deals. Any idea about the status of the inquiry? Has the inquiry been ordered?

This is the only news item I have on above: http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... government

And this:

http://zeenews.india.com/news/rajasthan ... 99180.html

Personal opinion: I do not think we will hear any thing targeting Vadra until elections are announced and Bianca steps in big time. Of course spade work will be done and things kept ready. This is where Kejri lost the battle., he should have targetted Sheila immediately followed by steps against Vadra. He is losing time in all theatrics ceding the ground back to CongIs!!

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 12 Jan 2014 03:18

muraliravi wrote:There it is, cat is out of the bag, ye AAP ka chakkar choddo, here is congress' final and only weapon left:

http://www.sunday-guardian.com/buzzword

Congress offers PM chair to both Jaya, Maya

The Congress is offering the Prime Minister's chair to both J. Jayalalithaa and Mayawati if they agree not to join hands with Narendra Modi after the general elections. Buta Singh is talking to both Jaya and Maya for possible support in case of hung Parliament. In West Bengal, Ghulam Nabi Azad is holding back channel talks with Mamata Banerjee against Rahul Gandhi's wishes. Rahul has made it clear that since the West Bengal unit of the Congress is opposed to any truck with Mamata Banerjee, there is no question of any alliance with her. But when Azad was in Kolkata he shared the dais with Mamata at a public function and went on to announce that no AIIMS like institute would be opened in Raiganj, Congress MP and Union Minister Deepa Dasmunshi's constituency. Dasmunshi, who has been locked in a fight with Mamata on this, was dumbstruck.

pat my back. I said congress will not have any option other than Maya as PM in 2014.

as early as when NaMo thread started.

added later:
Sorry don't pat yet. I read Mamata as Maya

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 12 Jan 2014 03:23

muraliravi wrote:There it is, cat is out of the bag, ye AAP ka chakkar choddo, here is congress' final and only weapon left:

http://www.sunday-guardian.com/buzzword

Congress offers PM chair to both Jaya, Maya

The Congress is offering the Prime Minister's chair to both J. Jayalalithaa and Mayawati if they agree not to join hands with Narendra Modi after the general elections. Buta Singh is talking to both Jaya and Maya for possible support in case of hung Parliament. In West Bengal, Ghulam Nabi Azad is holding back channel talks with Mamata Banerjee against Rahul Gandhi's wishes. Rahul has made it clear that since the West Bengal unit of the Congress is opposed to any truck with Mamata Banerjee, there is no question of any alliance with her. But when Azad was in Kolkata he shared the dais with Mamata at a public function and went on to announce that no AIIMS like institute would be opened in Raiganj, Congress MP and Union Minister Deepa Dasmunshi's constituency. Dasmunshi, who has been locked in a fight with Mamata on this, was dumbstruck.

Interesting. So Jaya will be PM on Monday, Tuesday, Mamata on Wednesday, Thursday and Maya on Friday and Saturday? RaGa, given his competence, will be PM on Sundays and public holidays - any other day, the damage he will do will be too great.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 12 Jan 2014 03:30

Muppalla wrote:
muraliravi wrote:There it is, cat is out of the bag, ye AAP ka chakkar choddo, here is congress' final and only weapon left:

http://www.sunday-guardian.com/buzzword

Congress offers PM chair to both Jaya, Maya

The Congress is offering the Prime Minister's chair to both J. Jayalalithaa and Mayawati if they agree not to join hands with Narendra Modi after the general elections. Buta Singh is talking to both Jaya and Maya for possible support in case of hung Parliament. In West Bengal, Ghulam Nabi Azad is holding back channel talks with Mamata Banerjee against Rahul Gandhi's wishes. Rahul has made it clear that since the West Bengal unit of the Congress is opposed to any truck with Mamata Banerjee, there is no question of any alliance with her. But when Azad was in Kolkata he shared the dais with Mamata at a public function and went on to announce that no AIIMS like institute would be opened in Raiganj, Congress MP and Union Minister Deepa Dasmunshi's constituency. Dasmunshi, who has been locked in a fight with Mamata on this, was dumbstruck.
pat my back. I said congress will not have any option other than Maya as PM in 2014. as early as when NaMo thread started.

This is actually a non-issue. This is all post-election.

It's more than clear that Jayalalitha would not be having a pre-poll alliance with BJP. BJP would be forming a different grand alliance with MDMK, PMK, KMK and perhaps DMDK.

Mayawati going with an alliance with BJP is also out of the question.

So post-poll both Mayawati and Jayalalitha would be available with their MPs for various combinations. The question is whether through these discussions Congress can entice these two to have a pre-poll alliance with Congress.

That too seems out of the question for both. Jayalalitha is confident of winning a good number of seats on her own. BSP knows Congress cannot help them win more seats in UP. So despite such assurances of PMship, neither Jayalalitha nor Mayawati are willing to partner with Congress.

Post-polls is post-polls, and both Jayalalitha and Mayawati would be seeing what they can make of it, but beforehand they would both try to win as many seats as possible without Congress or BJP.

Post-poll assurances pre-poll doesn't have much of a value.