Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Locked
Singha
BRF Oldie
Posts: 66589
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 19:42
Location: the grasshopper lies heavy

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by Singha »

ibnlive

Bangalore: American evangelist Benny Hinn has cancelled his Bangalore visit days after there were widespread protests against a convention he was slated to hold. Additional Commissioner of Police (Law & Order), Kamal Pant has confirmed it to the media. Benny Hinn will not be a part of the prayer meet in Bangalore that is scheduled to start on Wednesday.
The Bharatiya Janata Party and several right-wing groups claim that the self-proclaimed miracle healer was using this as a tool to convert people to Christianity, and that his prayer conference next week too would be a forum for conversion.
ALSO SEE Evangelist Benny Hinn's visit kicks up conversion row
In the latest of such protests, a seer of a religious mutt in the north Karnataka town of Hubli allegedly even attempted suicide during a protest late on Saturday evening. The seer, Pranavanand Swamiji, was staging a protest to demand that the government not allow Hinn entry into Karnataka.
"We are opposed to it. The government should not give him permission, because it is an effort a conversion and conversion is against the Constitution," said VHP leader Praveen Togadia on a visit to Bangalore.
The Opposition BJP has also made its displeasure on Hinn being allowed for a conference known. "Pure and simple, Hinn is a fraud, a farce and he is a big showman. We don't want gullible people to be lured by him. The last time he had come, he made a derogatory comment that idol worship is equal to prostitution... that had hurt the sentiments of everyone," says BJP Karnataka spokesperson and former Minister S Suresh Kumar.
The organisations were against the propagation of superstitious beliefs they think will be promoted by "miracle healing" sessions that Hinn had conducted in his 2005 visit. "Chief Minister Siddaramaiah, who was a deputy CM at that time, had himself said such sessions do not augur well for society. When he himself has said that before, it is for him to take a call. India is a country where all religions are given the right to preach, but nobody has the right to induce people to convert and use dirty tricks like posing to heal patients and lure them to convert. That is the main issue," Kumar added.
Adding voice to the call by saffron groups is the rationalist association. Says A S Nataraj, president of a local rationalists association, "My question is, if he can really touch and heal any disease or disorder just by touching, why, there are so many hospitals opened. Why can't he go to the hospitals and just go on touching all the patients and cure them? So this is just a drama, it is cheating. In another name, he is coming here."
But organizers of the event insisted that this conference is far different from the one organized nine years ago. "The last time, it was a public programme, this time it is a private one, a religious prayer conference. Last time it was free for all, this time, we are charging Rs 850 for participants. The last time, it was a Benny Hinn programme, this time he is one of the many speakers at the conference. There is no room for concerns on conversion as only Christians are coming, " says spokesperson for the church, P Chamarajan.
About 25,000 people were expected to attend the conference, as against the crowd of over 2 lakh people that participated in the healing and spiritual programme in 2005, when an entire aerodrome in the city's Jakkur area had been thrown open to hold the crowds.
He pointed out that the church cannot allow others to dictate to it on who should be invited as guests or preachers for their conference. "We have the liberty as to who will come and who we choose as guests. If protesters are going to decide who should speak at our conference, we will not be left with many options. If they choose, they will keep rejecting everybody. We have chosen Hinn because we believe he is good," Chamarajan argues.
"People need to think before they talk. If the sangh parivar is talking without thinking, I think it's very unfortunate to see what they are doing," Chamarajan adds.
His stand was further strengthened by the fact that a public interest litigation filed in the Karnataka High Court against the conference was dismissed by the court, which asked the police to ensure adequate law and order enforcement for the conference.
Pushed to a corner, the government too said it cannot stop a purely religious conference. "What is the controversy? Every time, there is a controversy. The police commissioner will look into it. It has nothing to do with the government, that's the police commissioner's job," Home Minister KJ George had said.
The city police had said that they had nothing against a religious conference, as far as law and order was not compromised. Those concerns exist as the 2005 conference had seen considerable communal tension and some rioting.
IndraD
BRF Oldie
Posts: 9365
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 15:38
Location: भारत का निश्चेत गगन

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by IndraD »

ShankarCag wrote:Why is Kejriwal openly in contempt of court? What does he want? Does he want to become a martyr in western media as jailed anti corruption activist as any number of third world figures are ala Binayak Sen?
perhaps he is finding his job difficult as by basic nature he is an anarchist and not hard worker. this could be a bail out possible, + will make his image larger than life.
Shanmukh
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3042
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by Shanmukh »

Folks - if the AAP loses credibility for protecting those indicted like Somnath Bharti, what happens to the MSM campaign? Will they revert back to Congress? Will they abandon the AAP? Or will they try to prop up both?
Last edited by Shanmukh on 14 Jan 2014 16:32, edited 1 time in total.
IndraD
BRF Oldie
Posts: 9365
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 15:38
Location: भारत का निश्चेत गगन

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by IndraD »

no AK will make a K turn and remove him from cabinet, as some one said his decisions are based on public opinion and not moralistic ideals, system which has propped up AK will make sure these bottle necks are removed asap. It is too early to sacrifice him.
pankajs
BRF Oldie
Posts: 14746
Joined: 13 Aug 2009 20:56

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by pankajs »

India Today ‏@IndiaToday 3m

NCW chief Mamta Sharma calls UP Police shameless for beating up women in Firozabad, says notice will be sent to it. http://goo.gl/DUiaCB
------------------------>>
What is wrong with Maulana; A string of such senseless acts; Why?
IndraD
BRF Oldie
Posts: 9365
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 15:38
Location: भारत का निश्चेत गगन

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by IndraD »

he is frustrated by being shown in bad light non stop in media, hence misdirected anger. Not that he was any better before but mafia has turned the media spotlight on him now.
panduranghari
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3781
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by panduranghari »

IndraD wrote:Call it Lutenyoid syndrome or Lutenyitis
Lutenyoid syndrome is a presentation noted in response to the rise of nationalistic forces. The presentation was first noted in 1960's when it originated in response to the rise of Indira Nehru. The general features are malaise when questions are raised about the performance of the country in all spheres and walks of life. The presentation also includes slow response to stimuli. The sign of progression is increasing lethargy and non responsive to stimuli inspite of the increase in the intensity of stimuli. Some researchers claim the etiology of this syndrome is a vaccine used to prevent direct contact with the common man. The vaccine is not easily available to the common man and only those vetted by CIA. The CDC in Langley has used this vaccine in various countries with superlative effect. The common effect of this vaccine leads to dictatorship or formation of puppet regimes eventually leading to the formation of banana republics. The side effects are generalised disdain for the masses and disconnect. The other signs and symptoms of this syndrome include huge insatiable appetite especially to money, the hatred for the ancient cultural values. The pliant media has ensured the effect of Lutenyoid syndrome has seeped into the psyche of the common man.

The solutions attempted in the past have not worked effectively.

However in the research facilities of Nagpur, the scientists gradually perfected their antidote.
This anti dote was used in the past in 1977 and then in 1992 through 1999. The maturity of the efforts lead to the antidote which has been called NaMo. Once fully deployed after the elimination of polio, it will be given to every newly born child to immunise the child from the effect of the Lutenyoid syndrome.

In 2014 many people are hoping this vaccine eliminates the Lutenyoid syndrome from India. Noting this as a possibility, the CIA via CDC brought in the AAPitis- a disease to reinfect those being healed by Luteyoid syndrome. However it seems the effect of this NaMo vaccine seems to be eliminating the AAPitis.

NaMo vaccine afflicts the comforted and comforts the afflicted.
pankajs
BRF Oldie
Posts: 14746
Joined: 13 Aug 2009 20:56

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by pankajs »

Niti Central ‏@NitiCentral 44m

Prashant #Referendum Bhushan | #Cartoon by @ManojKureel http://www.niticentral.com/2014/01/14/p ... 79122.html … pic.twitter.com/Q1k9fPjgiE

Image
pankajs
BRF Oldie
Posts: 14746
Joined: 13 Aug 2009 20:56

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by pankajs »

India Today ‏@IndiaToday 34s

Friends turn foes on Somnath Bharti issue, Congress goes for AAP minister's scalp http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/frie ... 36163.html
pankajs
BRF Oldie
Posts: 14746
Joined: 13 Aug 2009 20:56

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by pankajs »

Swapan Dasgupta ‏@swapan55 4m

Today we had strange spectacle of a CM asserting that his vindication of colleague was more relevant than judicial indictment. New politics?
ramana
Forum Moderator
Posts: 60277
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by ramana »

I called Kejriwal, Robespierre of Delhi on twitter
Shanmukh
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3042
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by Shanmukh »

Corruption charges against AAP TN chief :D. But but - I thought they were honest!

http://newstodaynet.com/chennai/corrupt ... p-tn-chief
muraliravi
BRF Oldie
Posts: 2819
Joined: 07 May 2009 16:49

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by muraliravi »

Can someone here throw some light on how historically Jats have voted in Rajasthan, Haryana, Delhi and UP (I guess these are the states where they have most influence).

Jats are going to start a huge bandh asking for reservation, this is the next game of congress. The golden rule of Indian politics is, "In Chaos survives the Congress Party", So chaos 1, AAP, my gut is this jat reservation is going to be a full blown movie much more severe than what we witnessed in Rajasthan in 2008 (gujjar-meena problem).
archan
Forum Moderator
Posts: 6823
Joined: 03 Aug 2007 21:30
Contact:

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by archan »

ABP did a sting op on Delhi Congress leader Lovely. They are now hosting a debate questioning both Congress and AAP. So much for their Congress tilt and AAP ffavoritism. My thinking is that all they care for is TRP.
svenkat
BRF Oldie
Posts: 4727
Joined: 19 May 2009 17:23

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by svenkat »

del
Last edited by svenkat on 14 Jan 2014 21:03, edited 1 time in total.
Manish_Sharma
BRF Oldie
Posts: 5128
Joined: 07 Sep 2009 16:17

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by Manish_Sharma »

Zee News Hindi:

Showing Congrez plan AK-2014 now, they are showing right now how kejri and sibal met in a mosque for id today and gave such a long hugs to each other.

While kejri totally ignored Vijender Gupta!
svenkat
BRF Oldie
Posts: 4727
Joined: 19 May 2009 17:23

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by svenkat »

del
Last edited by svenkat on 14 Jan 2014 21:03, edited 1 time in total.
Altair
BRF Oldie
Posts: 2620
Joined: 30 Dec 2009 12:51
Location: Hovering over Pak Airspace in AWACS

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by Altair »

Question. How do you manage a bag of deadly poisonous snakes including cannibalistic King Cobras inside a single bag?
Perhaps Kejriwal can answer but I would like to call him the "snake charmer". He is managing lot of those snakes now.
muraliravi
BRF Oldie
Posts: 2819
Joined: 07 May 2009 16:49

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by muraliravi »

svenkat wrote:The cynicism of Congress thugs is unbelievable.After 66 years of independence,if jats want to be declared backward and Sonia,hooda,Amarinder Singh are inciting/supporting this preposterous demand just to get even with BJP over muzzaffarnagar incidents,what does that tell about Congress 'leadership' and Buddhu Gandhi was talking of equal opportunities for all.

One feels sorry for patriotic christians/muslims etc.The Cong justs want to burn the nation to ashes before they are thrown out of power.
Jats are equally to blame. Their leaders have always given support to political parties that acquiesced their demand for reservation
svenkat
BRF Oldie
Posts: 4727
Joined: 19 May 2009 17:23

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by svenkat »

I will give the caste leaders the benefit of doubt,this time.The Jats are NOT backward in Delhi,Haryana,UP,Punjab(jutt sikhs).It is an out and out Sonia operation.
Virupaksha
BR Mainsite Crew
Posts: 3110
Joined: 28 Jun 2007 06:36

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by Virupaksha »

One day the brahmins will be backward castes, and then whole India will have reservations. :mrgreen:
Manish_Sharma
BRF Oldie
Posts: 5128
Joined: 07 Sep 2009 16:17

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by Manish_Sharma »

archan wrote:ABP did a sting op on Delhi Congress leader Lovely. They are now hosting a debate questioning both Congress and AAP. So much for their Congress tilt and AAP ffavoritism. My thinking is that all they care for is TRP.
Meenakshi Lekhi has openly said ABP is her favorite channel; due to their new style of debating. That is both the debaters are given 5 minutes each in 3 slots where they can put across their view undisturbed. Unlike the sabzi markets of arnab and rajdeep.
johneeG
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3473
Joined: 01 Jun 2009 12:47

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by johneeG »

archan wrote:ABP did a sting op on Delhi Congress leader Lovely. They are now hosting a debate questioning both Congress and AAP. So much for their Congress tilt and AAP ffavoritism. My thinking is that all they care for is TRP.
Saar,
small pawn is lovely. To save the dynasty, they may even think about sacrificing sheela aunty.

But, the media moghuls may also be hedging their bets and jumping the ships right now. So, the alliances may be changing. In a way, this is also about alliance making.

----
panduranghari saar,

awesome. :D
pankajs
BRF Oldie
Posts: 14746
Joined: 13 Aug 2009 20:56

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by pankajs »

India Today ‏@IndiaToday 3m

Sibal's 'Jadu ki Jhappi' moments with Kejriwal http://indiatoday.intoday.in/gallery/ke ... 10937.html
Hari Seldon
BRF Oldie
Posts: 9374
Joined: 27 Jul 2009 12:47
Location: University of Trantor

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by Hari Seldon »

Virupaksha wrote:One day the brahmins will be backward castes, and then whole India will have reservations. :mrgreen:
Touche.

Rumor is Brahms want reservations under a new 'atimaha-adalit' label - similar to ati dalit, mahadalit, EBC, MBC, EMBC, MEBC kinda categories that janab Nitush has managed to engineer in Beehaar.
krishnan
BRF Oldie
Posts: 7342
Joined: 07 Oct 2005 12:58
Location: 13° 04' N , 80° 17' E

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by krishnan »

the way it is going they will sacrifice anyone as long as it benefits congress

the way i see it, they might even dumb budhu and go with Nandan Nilekani for PM
IndraD
BRF Oldie
Posts: 9365
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 15:38
Location: भारत का निश्चेत गगन

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by IndraD »

On ABP news live--R K Singh ex home secy revealing that shinde interfered even in posting of daroga and circle officers in Delhi, MMS was fully aware of this. Shinde took money for these transfer postings. Regular chit came from Home minister interfering in petty work every day.
ramana
Forum Moderator
Posts: 60277
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by ramana »

IndraD wrote:On ABP news live--R K Singh ex home secy revealing that shinde interfered even in posting of daroga and circle officers in Delhi, MMS was fully aware of this. Shinde took money for these transfer postings.

He had to pass a cut to Soniaji.

Two years ago while in Hyderabad came to know how even the beat constable's has to contribute to the Sonia treasury. Everyone has quota beat constable to the Home Minister. Then the CM tallies all the ministries and forwards to Ahmed Patel with due cuts for self.

The whole of AP was one huge collection system to fund the capers.

RK Singh seems to be on a crusade to get Shinde. The ideal would be if the Delhi Bullice postings at time of the rape case can be linked back to Shinde.
IndraD
BRF Oldie
Posts: 9365
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 15:38
Location: भारत का निश्चेत गगन

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by IndraD »

It seems he will get a ticket from Bihar, he belongs to Bhagalpur.
He did say that Nirbhaya case was compromised by Shinde
Arunkumar
BRFite
Posts: 643
Joined: 05 Apr 2008 17:29

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by Arunkumar »

ramana sir, So the corruption money goes abroad and again comes back to fund conversions and other assorted NGOs? self destructive cycle.
pankajs
BRF Oldie
Posts: 14746
Joined: 13 Aug 2009 20:56

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by pankajs »

India Today ‏@IndiaToday 10m

Case filed against Kumar Vishwas for hurting religious sentiments http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/case ... 36199.html
pankajs
BRF Oldie
Posts: 14746
Joined: 13 Aug 2009 20:56

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by pankajs »

Masala Chaas ‏@masala_chaas 4m

Exclusive: How @drramansingh dodged the Bastar bullets - India Today http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/rama ... 35872.html … via @indiatoday
---------------------------------------->>
Many felt the situation then was threatening the very survival of the BJP government as the entire state was in shock over the gory attack. " In terms of political impact the May 25 Maoist attack was as big an incident for Chhattisgarh as 26/ 11 terror attack for Mumbai and India," says Anirudh Sharma, a political expert.

..
But Aman Kumar Singh, the then secretary ( now principal secretary) to the chief minister, vehemently argued in a closed door meeting with Raman Singh that the government's unwillingness not to face the media would do irreparable damage to its image.

The CM and his close aides ( officials) toiled day and night to defend the government.

..
Aman Kumar Singh, along with the chief secretary, convinced the CM that the media must be apprised of the government's views. The CM was briefed through simulation on what to communicate with the media. After that Raman Singh went ahead with the plan to admit that there were security lapses, though he was a bit " uncertain" about its fallout. ' But with so many Congress leaders killed, how anyone can say there was no security lapse', was the belief instilled in him by his administrative advisers.

The CM also pledged before the media to ensure there is no delay in getting the quick report from the judicial commission.

He simultaneously welcomed the investigation by the National Investigation Agency into the deadly attack.

The press meet continued for two hours. The next morning the media narrative was changed. BJP spokespersons, too, got the line to follow: " Governance is not just about populism but showing guts for tough actions and candid admission." This strategy of admitting the lapse effectively gelled with the image of the chief minister.
JohnTitor
BRFite
Posts: 1345
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by JohnTitor »

muraliravi wrote:
ramana wrote:Muraliravi, Are they Amrita Bazar Patrika(ABP) folks? If so there is no nationalist DNA in them. Its all Congressi minions.
Yes sir, they are. The got acquired by Star Network and then rebranded as ABP news.
ABP = Ananda Publishers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ananda_Publishers
pankajs
BRF Oldie
Posts: 14746
Joined: 13 Aug 2009 20:56

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by pankajs »

Hindustan Times ‏@htTweets 10m

AAP’s decision to annul FDI in retail sets an unhealthy precedent http://read.ht/amw
-------------------------------->>
For a capital-scarce economy, allowing overseas investors to deploy funds in high growth sectors is, perhaps, the first step in seeking to spin jobs and multiply income. Each piece of structural adjustment faces its own dynamic of resistance, pacing out its passage through departments, ministries and social and political stakeholders. Political debates in Parliament, and outside, are a manifestation of this democratic phenomenon.

The Aam Aadmi Party (AAP)-led Delhi government’s decision to ban global chains to set up superstores in the national Capital needs to be seen through the dual prisms of political need and methods of good practice. Let’s examine each of these. AAP had made it amply clear during the run-up to the assembly polls that it was not in favour of allowing foreign direct investment (FDI) in multi-brand retail. So, to that extent, the decision to prohibit foreigners from setting up supermarkets in the national Capital was an election promise and qualifies as a political obligation. That brings us to the second, and broader, question of whether it is a good practice to reverse a decision taken by a predecessor regime. The jury is still out on this with arguments flying from both sides of the fence. For one, last year, the Centre eased norms arming state governments the powers to allow or prohibit FDI up to 51% in multi-brand retail stores. States which are in favour can decide to allow such stores to be set up in their regions; those which oppose can bar such giant stores. To this extent, so goes the argument, the AAP government is well within its rights to ban FDI in multi-brand retail. But, to unilaterally annul a decision taken by a preceding government without consultations with stakeholders, besides sending out wrong signals to investors, could also set an unhealthy precedent.

Co-opting stakeholders, rather than a peremptory approach, is the hallmark of participatory democracy that gives a strong sense of empowerment to people. Modern organised retail provides the right platform to create jobs in large numbers, vital for an economy like India that is battling to claw out of a sharp slowdown. Any government should aid job creation, particularly in those areas that do not require technical and specialised skills. That’s more true for AAP, which has stormed into power fuelling aspirations for millions of unemployed. To the contrary, the Delhi government, by banning foreign retail chains, may have wasted an opportunity. Wider consultations assist in expanding the area of the possible. In governance, gradualism is more sensible than a big-bang approach.
Now how did India become a capital-scarce economy in the first place? By forcing a big part of the economy underground and by forcing white money to flee the country seeking better returns elsewhere and by spending the left over capital on freebies.

Once part 1 is completed and capital becomes scares, part 2 is put into action. In the name of creating industry and providing jobs capital is invited into the country. Now outsiders will demand a lot of incentives and generous terms to invest in India. One by one segments of the economy will be handed over to outsiders on generous terms to them.

That is how a country is sold down the drain i.e by first creating the necessary conditions so that selling the country will become the only option. That IMHO has been munna's greatest legacy and his greatest gift to massa.
ramana
Forum Moderator
Posts: 60277
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by ramana »

pankajs wrote:Masala Chaas ‏@masala_chaas 4m

Exclusive: How @drramansingh dodged the Bastar bullets - India Today http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/rama ... 35872.html … via @indiatoday
---------------------------------------->>
Many felt the situation then was threatening the very survival of the BJP government as the entire state was in shock over the gory attack. " In terms of political impact the May 25 Maoist attack was as big an incident for Chhattisgarh as 26/ 11 terror attack for Mumbai and India," says Anirudh Sharma, a political expert.

..
But Aman Kumar Singh, the then secretary ( now principal secretary) to the chief minister, vehemently argued in a closed door meeting with Raman Singh that the government's unwillingness not to face the media would do irreparable damage to its image.

The CM and his close aides ( officials) toiled day and night to defend the government.

..
Aman Kumar Singh, along with the chief secretary, convinced the CM that the media must be apprised of the government's views. The CM was briefed through simulation on what to communicate with the media. After that Raman Singh went ahead with the plan to admit that there were security lapses, though he was a bit " uncertain" about its fallout. ' But with so many Congress leaders killed, how anyone can say there was no security lapse', was the belief instilled in him by his administrative advisers.

The CM also pledged before the media to ensure there is no delay in getting the quick report from the judicial commission.

He simultaneously welcomed the investigation by the National Investigation Agency into the deadly attack.

The press meet continued for two hours. The next morning the media narrative was changed. BJP spokespersons, too, got the line to follow: " Governance is not just about populism but showing guts for tough actions and candid admission." This strategy of admitting the lapse effectively gelled with the image of the chief minister.

Now that elections are over, is the judicial commission report completed? If Not what is the due date?


I think the Center was getting ready to dismiss the ogvt for law and order and romp to the elections.
Also need to probe the good affsars who suggested to lie low.
member_23365
BRFite
Posts: 224
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by member_23365 »

Can someone here throw some light on how historically Jats have voted in Rajasthan, Haryana, Delhi and UP (I guess these are the states where they have most influence).
Muraliraviji,
I will try to give my opinion. In Haryana, in old day, Jats were divided between Cong(under Bansilal’s leadership) and INLD under Devilal. In Haryana, Jats don’t vote as a bloc they are still divided among Cong and INLD.
In Delhi, Jats voted for BJP when Sahib Singh Verma was there. But went other way one Verma’s Son Parvesh was not treated well by Delhi BJP. This time in Delhi, Jats have voted for BJP in Delhi.
In Western UP, Jats have voted for Ajit Singh (he is an eye eye tian as well). But after Muzffarnagar riots he will find it hard to get Jat votes.
In Rajasthan, Jats traditionally voted for Cong but BJP gave reservation to Jats and that have changed the things. As per recent poll like everyone else Jats voted for BJP too.
pankajs
BRF Oldie
Posts: 14746
Joined: 13 Aug 2009 20:56

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by pankajs »

Hindustan Times ‏@htTweets 22m

#AAP will have a tough time resolving divergent views on key issues #ArvindKejriwal http://read.ht/anB pic.twitter.com/E3BKbLiEea
---------------------------------->>
As individuals of diverse ideological persuasions join the Aam Aadmi Party (AAP), Arvind Kejriwal’s broom faces a real possibility of being swept away by the conflicting characters at play.

Pitched against a Kumar Vishwas, a self confessed Modi-admirer is a Mallika Sarabhai, who hates Modi. A pro-market Meera Sanyal and V Balakrishnan stand opposite the anti-market brigade of Kamal Mitra Chenoy and Medha Patkar.

These apparent internal differences of opinion between leaders of the party seem to have made AAP a boiling pot.

Political experts speculate that AAP might just implode internally.

..
Badri Narayan, a social historian at GB Pant Institute of Social Sciences, Allahabad agreed with Chandhoke. “As Congress minister Jairam Ramesh said AAP is not a party, it’s a platform for disparate groups that harbour political aspiration.” He also termed the influx of prominent personalities as ‘sheer opportunism’.

..
While Sanyal has kept mum (she refused to comment) on the subject, V Balakrishnan, another corporate honcho (ex-finance chief of Infosys), was evasive when quizzed about the economic merits and fall-out of AAP-led Delhi government’s decision to roll back FDI in multi-brand retail in Delhi.

..
Another issue that is going to the bone of contention is communalism. AAP leader Kumar Vishwas has made disparaging remarks against the minorities, and even written poems singing paeans to Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi. His stand pitches him against another AAP member Mallika Sarabhai who has asked Vishwas to make his views clear.

Other important issues like Kashmir, Maoism and reservation will also test party’s unity in the coming days. Its prominent leader Prashant Bhushan stands for referendum in Kashmir while Kejriwal does not. Again another AAP leader Yogendra Yadav first declares party support for reservation for the lower class and then says he was misquoted.

“The party is soon going to collapse under the weight of contradictions,” said Badri Narayan.
ramana
Forum Moderator
Posts: 60277
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by ramana »

They dont need to de-conflict their opinions. All they need is to get to power.
muraliravi
BRF Oldie
Posts: 2819
Joined: 07 May 2009 16:49

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by muraliravi »

atamjeetsingh wrote:Can someone here throw some light on how historically Jats have voted in Rajasthan, Haryana, Delhi and UP (I guess these are the states where they have most influence).
Muraliraviji,
I will try to give my opinion. In Haryana, in old day, Jats were divided between Cong(under Bansilal’s leadership) and INLD under Devilal. In Haryana, Jats don’t vote as a bloc they are still divided among Cong and INLD.
In Delhi, Jats voted for BJP when Sahib Singh Verma was there. But went other way one Verma’s Son Parvesh was not treated well by Delhi BJP. This time in Delhi, Jats have voted for BJP in Delhi.
In Western UP, Jats have voted for Ajit Singh (he is an eye eye tian as well). But after Muzffarnagar riots he will find it hard to get Jat votes.
In Rajasthan, Jats traditionally voted for Cong but BJP gave reservation to Jats and that have changed the things. As per recent poll like everyone else Jats voted for BJP too.
Sir ji,

Do you think the dynamics will change if congress gives them reservation and agrees to add them to the obc list at a national level
IndraD
BRF Oldie
Posts: 9365
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 15:38
Location: भारत का निश्चेत गगन

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Post by IndraD »

I posted them on forums and wanted to share them with you all
#AAP KONG are like husband and wife, fighting over but made for each other
#photo of AK & sibbal hugging each other with skull cap on will be cherished forever as hum AAP ke hai CON, it was secular only not to wish Hindus on makar sakranti.
Locked