Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

member_23365 · Post by **member_23365** » 15 Jan 2014 03:11

Sir ji,

Do you think the dynamics will change if congress gives them reservation and agrees to add them to the obc list at a national level[/quote]

Muraliraviji,
In Raj and Delhi, Jats already have reservation so it wont have much effect there. UP b'cos of Muzuffarnagar riots Ajit Singh is considered as traitor Cong dont have any credibility left. BJP has good chance to get the Jat votes in UP.
Haryana, hard to tell, after agitating vigorously against resrvation during Mandal commission, Jats are feeling left behind.They are watching Gujars and Yadavs going places b'cos of reservation. In rural Haryana most of the Jats are marginal farmers left with average 3-4 acres of land so everyone is looking for jobs, youth is not intereseted in agriculture anymore. Congress is not in good position except Rohtak belt in Haryana, Reservation will help Cong but I dont think it will sail them thru. Haryana BJP baffoons have been campiagning against Jat reservation so BJP is seen as anti-Jat party.
AAP was seen as joke before Delhi election but after Govt formation things have turned around. People are fed up with Cong, so Chautala would had an easy victory but with AAP on scene things have changed for sure in Haryana. AAP will get considerable vote in GE but hard to tell whose vote they will cut more Cong or INLD.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 15 Jan 2014 04:32

Also!!

Jats are farmers and thus they see FDI in retail as helping them (direct contracts with Walmat, Reliance, etc). As oppose to helping the city based middle men who do not add any value to the product between consumers and producers.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 15 Jan 2014 04:33

When Kejriwal says that "today politicians have become DALALS" he is not wrong! as he himself has become a DALAL of the middle men who get profited from both sides (producers and consumers)

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 15 Jan 2014 04:42

SBajwa wrote:Also!!

Jats are farmers and thus they see FDI in retail as helping them (direct contracts with Walmat, Reliance, etc). As oppose to helping the city based middle men who do not add any value to the product between consumers and producers.

Farmers will get a good deal ONLY if the clause of resourcing raw material locally is maintained. Walmart, if given a free reign, will bypass also the local farmers.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 15 Jan 2014 04:52

atamjeetsingh wrote:
Muraliraviji,
In Raj and Delhi, Jats already have reservation so it wont have much effect there. UP b'cos of Muzuffarnagar riots Ajit Singh is considered as traitor Cong dont have any credibility left. BJP has good chance to get the Jat votes in UP.
Haryana, hard to tell, after agitating vigorously against resrvation during Mandal commission, Jats are feeling left behind.They are watching Gujars and Yadavs going places b'cos of reservation. In rural Haryana most of the Jats are marginal farmers left with average 3-4 acres of land so everyone is looking for jobs, youth is not intereseted in agriculture anymore. Congress is not in good position except Rohtak belt in Haryana, Reservation will help Cong but I dont think it will sail them thru. Haryana BJP baffoons have been campiagning against Jat reservation so BJP is seen as anti-Jat party.
AAP was seen as joke before Delhi election but after Govt formation things have turned around. People are fed up with Cong, so Chautala would had an easy victory but with AAP on scene things have changed for sure in Haryana. AAP will get considerable vote in GE but hard to tell whose vote they will cut more Cong or INLD.

Thanks Sir ji. So haryana is the key. It proves the IIFL survey (http://articles.economictimes.indiatime ... -elections): I trust these brokerage house surveys more than news channels, because they have stakes in the game.

So as per their report,

Brokerage house IIFL has said that the BJP's prospects for the 2014 Lok Sabha elections have got better in recent weeks with the best-case scenario indicating that the party may get about 210 seats from about 190 earlier.

The success will be largely driven by the performance in the electorally crucial state of Uttar Pradesh. IIFL forecasts the party winning about 50 seats up from 26 earlier. In Bihar, BJP is expected to win 16 seats from 12 earlier.

On AAP, the brokerage housesaid that its gain in terms of seats in the Delhi polls has not been at the expense of BJP, but the new party has managed to eat into Congress and BSP's vote base. "AAP could dent BJP in states where the expected anti-incumbency against the Congress could have resulted in large gains for the BJP. In our view, the three states where BJP could have potentially done much better without AAP contesting are Delhi, Haryana and Maharashtra," the report states.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 15 Jan 2014 04:55

http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?278264

disha · Post by **disha** » 15 Jan 2014 07:21

Guys,

An important discovery here.

Justice A K Ganguly had to resign because of complain from Ms. Stella James (http://www.legallyindia.com/20131111409 ... -is-common) who works for NGO Natural Justice, Lawyers for community and environment.

And who funds NGO Natural Justice? Ford Foundation! Look for yourself. http://naturaljustice.org/about-us/governance/funding

I could connect the above after reading this:

http://www.firstpost.com/india/name-and ... 36669.html

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 15 Jan 2014 08:17

if you go to grants database of ford foundation and select only india,nepal,sri lanka, it pulls up a list of 213 results.
http://www.fordfoundation.org/grants/search

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 15 Jan 2014 08:20

Operation destabilize India was planted in 1998 with a full vigor. Then started the naxals coming out of woods to center stage via Sonia's NAC. The plot is to put them to power and later get to a stage of Nuke noodness.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 15 Jan 2014 08:23

the scorpion eggs laid all over the country are maturing. and the little scorpions are now crawling out in droves to hitch a ride on AAP and gain legitimacy.
Congi are like a old warlock with a decaying body that needs replacement by soul transfer to a fresh host and AAP is it.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 15 Jan 2014 09:40

disha wrote:Guys,

An important discovery here.

Justice A K Ganguly had to resign because of complain from Ms. Stella James (http://www.legallyindia.com/20131111409 ... -is-common) who works for NGO Natural Justice, Lawyers for community and environment.

And who funds NGO Natural Justice? Ford Foundation! Look for yourself. http://naturaljustice.org/about-us/governance/funding

I could connect the above after reading this:

http://www.firstpost.com/india/name-and ... 36669.html

The job she took up after leaving legal internship. But let us see if she really is doing something in her new job. Also it looks like a simple case of she said, I said at a tactical level but strategically speaking there is a real danger to our establishment also from these foreign entities. The fact that a CM could be kept in the doghouse for 12 years. The fact that Raman Singh has to end up apologizing for a conspiracy not done by him. The fact that the Justice Ganguly case even came up just before the Coal Scam judgement. It all shows that there is something more to it all than what is let out.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Jan 2014 09:42

Alok Bhatt ‏@alok_bhatt 12m

Dont abuse-if u come across any AAP supporter-tell them abt their naxal & Kashmir agenda-ask if they want to vote for Kashmiri separatists?
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I agree. Just point them to videos and news paper article. The nationalist will get the message without you stressing the point.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Jan 2014 10:05

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pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Jan 2014 10:13

India Today ‏@IndiaToday 13m

I feel the party is drifting away from the issues on the basis of which it party came to power: Vinod Binny, #AAP.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Jan 2014 10:27

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Jan 2014 10:52

dna ‏@dna 39s

dna special: UP govt spent Rs500 crore on Muslim graveyards in 2 years, not welfare http://dnai.in/bZXU
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Maulana has his priorities upside down. Instead of serving the living he is spending in the dead.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 15 Jan 2014 10:54

Binny Mange more!

http://www.niticentral.com/2014/01/15/a ... 79321.html

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 15 Jan 2014 11:07

Has anybody noticed a complete silence or some sort of media gag type on AAP MLAs. A party has born on free principals, but employs tactics of authoritarian. Vinod Binny is the first one to broke that silence (create chaos). Hope more dhamakas in future. It will take shine away from AAP.

Abhijit · Post by **Abhijit** » 15 Jan 2014 11:36

I wrote this as a case study for MBA types:

This case is about two competing products in the market. Let’s call them B & C. Product C has had an illustrious history, it has been in the market for over a century. There was a time when it had almost a 100% market share. Even today C has the largest market share. Product B also has a rather long history but has always been second (or third or fourth) in terms of national market share. There are geographical niches where B has a larger market share than C. There are other small, geographically niche products out there with locally significant market shares. But really speaking only B and C have national footprints.

B & C, since they are directly competing against each other in the same national market, have been at loggerheads with each other. C has an innovative marketing strategy, perfected over decades. It doesn’t bother to tout its own product benefits. It simply attacks its rival products, especially B. C claims that product B has highly toxic side-effects, especially for the various customers segments that are ultra-loyal to C. B claims that C promises a lot of benefits but doesn’t actually deliver any of them. The C Company also screws its customers (who are also its shareholders) by skimming off a large part of the product revenue and stashes it away offshore in the name of its directors. But most importantly, B Company has major objections to how C Company markets its products. Though C claims to be a national brand, it has perfected the art of finely dividing its national market on the basis of demographics and appoints its local salesreps that appeal only to their like-demographics and screw everybody else.

B and C (and the other smaller geographically dispersed competing products) claim to offer the same benefits to the customers, and so do the other products (let’s call them DZ or khichadi, they make you dizzy with their marketing campaign strategies anyway). But there is absolutely no other similarity between B & C.

But C has been having some problems recently – a couple of decades. A number of C executives have been leaving C to start their own start-ups in various geographies. Most of the geos where non-C (or non-B) products (from DZ khichadi) have captured higher market share, belong to ex-C executives. But C didn’t mind these upstart start-ups. Even though they took away some market share from C, they succeeded in keeping B out of their respective markets.

Then in the last couple of years everything changed. A new product, let’s call it product A, suddenly burst on the scene. It was a start-up company, headed by a charismatic, brilliant IIT engineer. Product A also offered the same benefits to the customers, but with a twist. They claimed that product A would remove all the wastage that was an intrinsic part of product C. Essentially, ‘A’ offered to lower the cost of the benefits offered by C and also promised to drastically improve the benefits that were claimed by C. Was it competing against product C or product B? Or both? And what about the other D-Z products? Was it competing against all of them? Did ‘A’ actually have any benefits that were different from B or C or D-Z?

Most interestingly, ‘A’ has adopted an intriguingly disruptive two-pronged marketing strategy. On one hand, it has exclusively focused on the C Company’s skimming activities. ‘A’ claims that it will stop all the skimming. It has also bucketed B Company in the same league. The other interesting aspect of ‘A’s marketing is that it is outdoing C in every aspect of marketing. Since C offers freebies to its customers, A is offering even more freebies. Since C tries to offer reservations to some of the demographic niches, A is offering even more reservations. Since C offers to deport foreign authors who invite the ire of some of its demographic niches, A hobnobs with the leaders of that demographic group and even goes to the extent of befriending the guy who offered a reward for a murder of the said author. In essence, ‘A’ is outdoing C in every respect as its marketing strategy.

Now the questions to discuss for the class are:

- If ‘A’ is marketing itself as a more pure version of C, is it likely to capture the market share of C or B?
- If ‘A’ is not offering even a token marketing gimmick that may compete with B’s core campaign, why would B’s loyal customers switch to ‘A’?
- If ‘A’ is professing to devour the market shares of everybody – from B to Z with special emphasis on C – but going out of the way to ape C and D-Z then why should B take on A?
- If some of the ‘B’ customers are switching to ‘A’, are they really the customers of B in the first place?
- And lastly, what happens if ‘A’ gives the same customer experience as C? After all, like any new product, the proof of the pudding is in eating it, no?

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 15 Jan 2014 11:37

Foreign agents law is here to stay - Putin

The law that obliges NGOs that participate in politics and receive sponsorship from abroad to register as foreign agents will not be changed in essence, but some details in it can be edited, Vladimir Putin has said.

Link

It would be interesting to compile a list of people who have received grants from big foreign sponsors specially organizations like Ford.

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IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 15 Jan 2014 11:42

binny as usual has given 24 hours before khulasa so that some negotiation us reached ,acc to kachra, binny was asking for MP seat from east Delhi

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 15 Jan 2014 12:23

Roperia wrote:N.S.A. Devises Radio Pathway Into Computers | NYT

... N.S.A. has increasingly made use of a secret technology that enables it to enter and alter data in computers even if they are not connected to the Internet, according to N.S.A. documents, computer experts and American officials.

The technology, which the agency has used since at least 2008, relies on a covert channel of radio waves that can be transmitted from tiny circuit boards and USB cards inserted surreptitiously into the computers.

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But the program, code-named Quantum, has also been successful in inserting software into Russian military networks and systems used by the Mexican police and drug cartels, trade institutions inside the European Union, and sometime partners against terrorism like Saudi Arabia, India and Pakistan, according to officials and an N.S.A. map that indicates sites of what the agency calls “computer network exploitation.”

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One, called Cottonmouth I, looks like a normal USB plug but has a tiny transceiver buried in it. According to the catalog, it transmits information swept from the computer “through a covert channel” that allows “data infiltration and exfiltration.” Another variant of the technology involves tiny circuit boards that can be inserted in a laptop computer — either in the field or when they are shipped from manufacturers — so that the computer is broadcasting to the N.S.A. even while the computer’s user enjoys the false confidence that being walled off from the Internet constitutes real protection.

OT:
I can bet my last dollar the same technology is being used in EVMs to make sure Cong continues to rule India. There is no other reason behind the mysterious resurrection of Cong party after EVMs were introduced by BJP Government and the shock results that led to fall of NDA Govt which was performing well by all counts. The same EVMs led to the fall of 30-year-old rule of Communists in W Bengal immediately after they created a ruckus against the US nuclear deal. This is als the reason I am not very optimistic about Modi coming to power in Delhi. The shock rise of AAP in Delhi, that defied all expectations, may also be a result of EVM fraud using the secret US technology. The stubborn resistance of Election Commission to get any kind of public audit done of EVM machines is inexplicable. Cong is also dragging its feet about introducing paper verifiable trail of EVMs.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Jan 2014 12:32

India Today ‏@IndiaToday 3m

It's difficult for the poor to survive due to inflation,which is a result of the Centre's wrong policies: Mayawati. http://goo.gl/obezUW

member_28352 · Post by **member_28352** » 15 Jan 2014 12:33

Some of the decisions of the BJP were truly naive. IC814, FDI in media and EVMs are 3 blunders.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Jan 2014 12:33

Niti Central ‏@NitiCentral 6m

#Replug: Intolerable immorality of the moral @AamAadmiParty brigade : Writes @KanchanGupta http://www.niticentral.com/2014/01/14/i ... 79243.html … pic.twitter.com/WizAOpd0KR

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Jan 2014 12:33

Press Trust of India ‏@PTI_News 10m

Uttar Pradesh has emerged as "crime pradesh" under Samajwadi Party rule: Mayawati.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Jan 2014 12:35

Niti Central ‏@NitiCentral 11m

SP's Study #junkets justified | #Cartoon by @ManojKureel http://www.niticentral.com/2014/01/15/s ... 79313.html … pic.twitter.com/p9gXcmz2XI

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Jan 2014 12:43

TIMES NOW ‏@timesnow 1m

The fight within Aam Aadmi Party escalates, miffed AAP MLA Vinod Binny calls Delhi CM Arvind Kejriwal ‘a liar’ #BreakingNow
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India Today ‏@IndiaToday 11m

If @ArvindKejriwal has said this, it's unfortunate; no one is a bigger liar than him: Vinod Binny, #AAP on LS ticket. http://goo.gl/obezUW

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Jan 2014 12:48

MediaCrooks ‏@mediacrooks 12m

I believe RKSingh.. Shinde must hv protected Shahid Balwa..Balwa was allowed to escape from India #2Gbail @timesnow @ibnlive @ndtv @Swamy39

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 15 Jan 2014 13:02

^^First snake tries to bite the snake charmer. Who's next?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Jan 2014 15:12

India Today ‏@IndiaToday 59m

BSP won't forge an alliance with Congress, it will go it alone in Lok Sabha polls: Mayawati. http://goo.gl/obezUW

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Jan 2014 15:21

India Today ‏@IndiaToday 2m

#AAP's Yogendra Yadav forced to leave Jat Sabha office in Haryana's Kurukshetra, forced to leave without PC.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Jan 2014 15:22

The Indian Express ‏@IndianExpress 7m

Like other rights, right to sting is a part of democracy: Manish Sissodia @ #IdeaExchange

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Jan 2014 15:28

India Today ‏@IndiaToday 1m

Nandan Nilekani launches 'Op Agile' to win polls http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/info ... 36305.html …
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Though not confirmed, it is learnt that Nilekani has given a go-ahead to a four-pronged strategy, Operation Agile, to consolidate his position ahead of the elections and take the election battle into his opponent's court. And Nilekani's style is causing a lot of buzz.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Jan 2014 15:34

The Indian Express ‏@IndianExpress 3m

Unauthorised colonies will not become authorised if we go by the Centre's guidelines: Manish Sisodia @ #IdeaExchange
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There goes another promise.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Jan 2014 15:37

India Today ‏@IndiaToday 46s

#AAP leader Tina Sharma attacks party, says it's working on 2014 manifesto without catering to the 2013 manifesto. http://goo.gl/obezUW
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ANI ‏@ANI_news 4m

I think without catering to the 2013 manifesto we are working on 2014 manifesto. People ask me this-Tina Sharma,AAP
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Does it mean that aam admi of Delhi have realized that they were taken for a ride i.e AAP ne Dilli me saab ko topi pahnayi?

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 15 Jan 2014 15:38

pankajs wrote:The Indian Express ‏@IndianExpress 7m

Like other rights, right to sting is a part of democracy: Manish Sissodia @ #IdeaExchange

Not really. Sting operations are banned in US because the US Congress felt that these can be misused by enemy countries to destabilize the Government or push officials into a corner through entrapment

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Jan 2014 15:41

Tajinder Pal S Bagga ‏@tajinderbagga 13m

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... GMj-52rnEo … http://fb.me/TwRgkQ3Q
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pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Jan 2014 15:48

The Indian Express ‏@IndianExpress 6m

Our movement was never anti-Cong. It was and is anti-BJP: Manish Sisodia @ #IdeaExchange

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 15 Jan 2014 15:50

prahaar wrote:
SBajwa wrote:Also!!

Jats are farmers and thus they see FDI in retail as helping them (direct contracts with Walmat, Reliance, etc). As oppose to helping the city based middle men who do not add any value to the product between consumers and producers.
Farmers will get a good deal ONLY if the clause of resourcing raw material locally is maintained. Walmart, if given a free reign, will bypass also the local farmers.

OT.
True that. A cursory study of farmers in EU or US is enough to prove the big supermarkets have caused huge upheaval in the life of small farmers. Hence, the farmers in France oppose any cuts to their subsidies by the European Union. Britain wants to cut the subsidies as they cannot compete with France, forgetting that the subsidies the British farmers get are coming not from Brussels but from Westminster. Because without these subsidies they would never even break even.

I am sure the supporters of FDI in retail will have studied this is much more detail.