Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

archan · Post by **archan** » 20 Jan 2014 16:17

Please no AAP in NaMo thread UNLESS NaMo mentions them or they directly talk about him. These threads are looking the same. Use this thread.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 20 Jan 2014 16:19

Congress will give in to the demands to keep AAP alive till elections. They cant let them fail lest the disgruntled AAP mob joins NaMo brigade.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 20 Jan 2014 16:24

Home minister booked for molestation and illegal detention and chief minister doing a dharna against his own police!
even the congis had not manager this unseemly spectacle ever.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 20 Jan 2014 16:32

What is next ? No republic day on 26th January.
This is a good fight to see who is whose beeyatch.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 20 Jan 2014 18:08

More K-turns by Hazrat Kejriwal... P00r chap is begging to be dismissed from Govt so he can claim martyrship and plan his LS foray....tch, tch.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 20 Jan 2014 18:20

Rajdeep Sardesai ‏@sardesairajdeep 20m

@thekiranbedi to CNN IBN: Kejriwal dharna is designed to take attention away from Modi speech.
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Twitanic(Anil Kohli) ‏@anilkohli54 16m

This chaos in Delhi is the handi work or #AAP + Congress + Media. MSM cud have easily cut off the oxygen by not focusing on it all day long
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Headlines Today ‏@HeadlinesToday 17m

Delhi Police denies detaining Minister Saurabh Bhardwaj, says he himself sat in the police vehicle. #TheAapTheatre
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TIMES NOW ‏@timesnow 39s

Ministry of External Affairs refutes Aam Aadmi Party's claims of getting a letter from Ugandan High Commission #AAPDrama
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India Policy ‏@India_Policy 7m

Bhushan fought in SC demanding insulation of Police from political interference. AAP is doing a Dharna for its Govt to get that right!

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 20 Jan 2014 18:21

One question if 2 AAp Mla's have resigned, considering BJP +SAD have 32 then AAP can afford only 2 mmore resignations, then the Govt does not become valid?

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 20 Jan 2014 18:27

Another theory that comes to my mind:

Is AK trying to STOP Modi in 2014?

What if he can't stop and Modi wins 220 seats?

What is going to do?

CONGis can't protest and disrupt Modi. He checkmated them in Gujarat and will keep checkmating them in future.

But AK can. They are testing their strategies now.

How to disrupt,keep protesting and neutralize Modi to make sure that he does not do any thing significant.

Imagine all NGOs who are receiving billions in funds from across all over India realize that their lifeline is being threatened and they can't profit by selling the nation. They will all join Delhi protest with AK and his Naxal gang.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 20 Jan 2014 18:57

Press Trust of India ‏@PTI_News 1m

Union Cabinet decides to grant minority status to Jain community: sources.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 20 Jan 2014 19:00

CSDS survey leak (they will telecast it on cnn-ibn in a few hours live), The leak only has vote shares, today they will discuss Orissa, WB, Jharkhand and Assam.

Orissa

BJD: 33%
INC: 31%
BJP: 25%

WB

TMC: 33%
Left: 25%
INC: 19%
BJP: 14%

Jharkhand

INC: 20%
JMM: 8%
JVM: 7%
AAP: 5%
AJSU: 4%
RJD: 4%
BJP: 40%

No leaks on Assam

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 20 Jan 2014 19:02

Bihar ??

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 20 Jan 2014 19:06

pankajs wrote:Bihar ??

They will telecast survey over 4 days, so I guess they will cover bihar tomorrow or day after.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 20 Jan 2014 19:31

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1140120/j ... 843241.jsp

Lovely said the Congress would not allow Kejriwal to run away from responsibility and would pin him down to fulfil the promises he made to the people. A Congress office-bearer said: “Kejriwal understands that he sold unrealistic dreams and wants to escape before he is found out. But we are not interested in pulling down his government so soon. Let the people realise how capable this government is. If AAP ministers take law into their hands and demolish the systems we put in place, people will realise Kejriwal fooled them.”

If Congress stays true to its word(which is wishing for too much) then Kejriwal will have no place to hide. I think the current drama should be televised nonstop and Congress should keep suffocating AAP with its liquid oxygen support. Then the people will know what kind of jokers they have placed their trust in.

manju · Post by **manju** » 20 Jan 2014 19:51

ShankarCag wrote:^^^IIT Delhi saar and after that some law. Only proves that passing IITJEE means nothing. Even Sandeep Pandey is an IITian. Apparently he was also Khujliwal's school senior and mentor.

I agree.... I think we should not go crazy over degrees.. Where you graduate from helps you get your first job... later on you are hired based on how you perform. Those you want to fall back on their degrees don't have the real stuff.

As one of my buddies says "what matters is lower education not higher education"

Lower education meaning= schooling and parenting...

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 20 Jan 2014 19:53

Wow. JH is a blow-out. lotus could make single party gubmint there all by itself.

WB is sad scene. Whence 19% vote to INC I must wonder.... And the left is still strong at 25%... Can only hope that the bhajpa's 14% is concentrated into a few winnable seats prolly by the Bhar-JH border with WB.

Odisha sadly seems like a lost cause. I also have reason to believe BJP's strength (such as it is) there hurts BJD more as they share vote banks.

archan · Post by **archan** » 20 Jan 2014 19:56

Ashutosh getting his rear handed to him in an ABP debate. Participants, Rita Bahuguna, Nalin Kohli, Vijay Vidrohi and Kiran Bedi.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 20 Jan 2014 19:57

Hari Seldon wrote:Wow. JH is a blow-out. lotus could make single party gubmint there all by itself.

WB is sad scene. Whence 19% vote to INC I must wonder.... And the left is still strong at 25%... Can only hope that the bhajpa's 14% is concentrated into a few winnable seats prolly by the Bhar-JH border with WB.

Odisha sadly seems like a lost cause. I also have reason to believe BJP's strength (such as it is) there hurts BJD more as they share vote banks.

Seldon Sir,

Not to worry, twitter is abuzz with news that Naveen babu is on weak wicket and will seek prepoll with BJP. With that BJP-BJD can get 21/21 and destroy INC forever. Only one things is stopping Naveen. Without prepoll also he can get 12/21. If he goes for alliance, he will get 14 and BJP will get 6-7 seats. Now that will increase BJP tally by 6-7 seats and it may lead to a situation where BJP may not need him post poll. So he will rather take only 12 and bargain hard after elections.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 20 Jan 2014 19:59

Hari Seldon wrote:Wow. JH is a blow-out. lotus could make single party gubmint there all by itself.

WB is sad scene. Whence 19% vote to INC I must wonder.... And the left is still strong at 25%... Can only hope that the bhajpa's 14% is concentrated into a few winnable seats prolly by the Bhar-JH border with WB.

Odisha sadly seems like a lost cause. I also have reason to believe BJP's strength (such as it is) there hurts BJD more as they share vote banks.

If Patnaik has some brains, he will have tactical understanding otherwise, the moron needs to be destroyed first to get BJP eventually

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 20 Jan 2014 20:06

Are you guys watching MSM, esp TimesNow. AAP is being suicided. Kejriwal is being targeted. Even the deplorable UndieTV is not far behind in AAP bashing.
Is this going into Phase2?

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 20 Jan 2014 20:11

TTN = Transaction Tax Nonsense is going too far

This is what happens when we have DRAFTLESS politics, and activists who dont ask their leaders to give DRAFTS

बैंकिंग लेन-देन कर की बात स्वीकारने पर दे सकते हैं कांग्रेस को समर्थन : रामदेव

http://khabar.ndtv.com/news/india/can-s ... dev-378126

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BJP is opposing TTN = Transaction Tax Nonsense

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AK-420 says that Shinde is not giving Delhi Police Dept to State Govt because Shinde gets hafta from Delhi Police. AK-420 is right that Shinde gets hafta from Delhi Police. Due to such statements, AK-420's ratings in middle class youth are increasing !!! The first time voters are rapidly moving toward AK

member_28352 · Post by **member_28352** » 20 Jan 2014 20:11

I think we should follow AAP's politburo members comments on INC with care for they are the mouthpiece of Ford Foundation. Today Khujliwal is saying that we will teach INC a lesson in Lok Sabha polls. I think pact between INC and AAP is broken. Earlier RG/SG probably had a plan but after what happened to Shiela INC satraps have revolted and taken matters into their own hands. That is why this confrontation with the DP aka INC leaders.
Also RMji's above post implies that INC is done with AAP for now if they are looking at BR. However if BR is so eager to jump ship to INC in less than 15 days than what does it say about us?

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 20 Jan 2014 20:22

BR will do everything in his power to destroy INC.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 20 Jan 2014 20:26

panduranghari wrote:BR will do everything in his power to destroy INC.

If so, why is he giving such ridiculous statements 3 months before elections. The last thing he should be doing is legitimizing congress party, which is what he is doing even if he puts some riders.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 20 Jan 2014 20:34

ShankarCag wrote:I think we should follow AAP's politburo members comments on INC with care for they are the mouthpiece of Ford Foundation. Today Khujliwal is saying that we will teach INC a lesson in Lok Sabha polls. I think pact between INC and AAP is broken. Earlier RG/SG probably had a plan but after what happened to Shiela INC satraps have revolted and taken matters into their own hands. That is why this confrontation with the DP aka INC leaders.

Nothing of the sort!

Having a Congress-AAP public fight is part of the plan/pact. Same with Congress-YSRCP in Andhra.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 20 Jan 2014 20:45

If the WB data is anything close to reality we may be finally seeing a transition from leftist politics.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 20 Jan 2014 20:51

CNN-IBN election tracker

Bihar

BJP: 16-24 seats

JDU: 7-13

RJD: 6-10

Cong: 0-4

43% UC and 47% OBC voting for Modi led BJP in Bihar.

Overall Bihar: 39% Namo for PM, Niku 15%, Raga, 9%, 11% Lalu

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 20 Jan 2014 20:52

Guys, with this kind of sweep, 40% vote share in Bihar and Jharkhand, UP wont be be far behind. Namo will be PM, be ready.

member_23658 · Post by **member_23658** » 20 Jan 2014 20:52

whoa, thats a 25% jump in vote share by the BJP as compared to 2009. thats a big big jump

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 20 Jan 2014 20:56

Odisha poll tracker: BJD likely to win 10-16 seats, Congress 3-9

Go to the link for lot of details

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 20 Jan 2014 21:08

muraliravi wrote:
panduranghari wrote:BR will do everything in his power to destroy INC.
If so, why is he giving such ridiculous statements 3 months before elections. The last thing he should be doing is legitimizing congress party, which is what he is doing even if he puts some riders.

True. I do not know why he said that. It may be perhaps because they want to be heard and they want to say something for the sake of saying something. Its sad really. Modi gives a great speech and we get such statements from BR and RNS.

Didn't someone suggest a few pages back there should be a curfew on statements coming from NaMo camp except for those who have been approved. However, who will approve RNS?

A rising tide floats all boats. RNS perhaps is a very very mediocre leader. If it was not for NaMo he would be consigned to the bins of history. Of course making things harder for NaMO is not what we would expect RNS or BR to do. But they seem to be doing just that.

RNS may be a mediocre leader but statements from BR could be better. Have these statements been attributed to them or caught on camera?

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 20 Jan 2014 21:11

panduranghari wrote:BR will do everything in his power to destroy INC.

I don't understand who gets helped by misquotations but still:

http://khabar.ndtv.com/news/india/can-s ... dev-378126

BR in Hindi - 'यदि कांग्रेस एकल खिड़की कर और एकल कर के हमारे प्रस्ताव को स्वीकार कर लेती है तो हम उसे समर्थन देंगे, हम कांग्रेस को समर्थन देंगे, लेकिन पहले वह वे पहल करें।'

http://www.financialexpress.com/news/ma ... ev/1219275

BR in English - "..If Congress accepts our proposal of single window taxation and single tax we will support it... we give Congress support but first they take initiative," Ramdev told reporters on the sidelines of a conference organised by The Institute of Chartered Accountants of India (ICAI)."

Please notice this is a presentation before ICAI. These people do your taxes. Now obviously Tax codes do not get decided in confrences or even on high intellect forums like BRF. Tax work is serious back breaking, intelligent and yet not exactly the most remunerative work for practicing professionals. ICAI conferences are only to encourage the pros to explore the new ideas. It is in this context that the comment was made.

Now listen to following between 46 min and 57 min. I am surprised at the essential grounding of a non-professional like BR in basic accounting. A man speaking of 'End Utilization Audits' and 'Controlling interests' and 'KYC' and 'Sources of funds' is already an accountant & lawyer in essence. And he will obviously never be stupefied into quoting some chinese about the colour of the cat. Notice also how he makes the senior CAs understand the link between their mundane jobs and their subtle dharma. BRs attitude towards CAs is Sardar Patels attitude towards Babus. At least Sardar got the best out of his babus. Now if CAs are handled by a dumb governance structure then obviously they will not be able to help the system. But a good governance structure will help them do their jobs. And mind you nobody in business uses his own money. Businesses are done on leverage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeiKGuklG84

If the owners of the idea are demanding considerable time to fund studies around a new idea, then it beats me why they are challenged.

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Drafts, Ver1, Ver1.1 and finalized drafts and execution copies are available for every goddamned idea that can conceivably by idea-ted and yet the world needs only a TV to deviate from its goals.

And do you really think the kind of proposals that are there, would be accepted anywhere except the skunk works of Sanghis.

Get real, this is not a coup against NaMo. This is a twisting of statements. And should be treated as such.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 20 Jan 2014 21:13

Well done Ravi_G to allay our collective anxiety.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 20 Jan 2014 21:27

BR is a committed Hinduthwa leader. There is no way he support mafia. Further NM enjoyes blessings of large sections of santh samaj. One more thing - It is widely rumoured that BR was beatten very badly bu police during ramlela midan agitation. I dont think he will forget that.

Media is playing games - Just like Advani speach wherein he mentioned that danger of being over confidence like 2004. As a elder of the party and a father figure for all the members it is his duty to warn his party workers. But his entire speach and that of NM were forgotten and one sentence was picked up by media.

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 20 Jan 2014 21:28

ravi_g wrote:Get real, this is not a coup against NaMo. This is a twisting of statements. And should be treated as such.

The statement comes 5 days after BJP rejected TTN = Transaction Tax Nonsense.

No one has given TTN draft i in past 20 years. So TT is undraftable ideal.

Anywa, if something is NOT even vaugely drafted, demanding such proposal is only hocus pocus.

It is good that BJP opposes TTN. Otherwise, it would have damaged its reputation.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 20 Jan 2014 21:32

CNN-IBN Tracker

Odisha

Party/Front------Projected Seats-------Vote Share
BJD------10-16-------33%
INC------3-9---------31%
BJP------0-4---------25%

If BJP can convert 4 seats for itself in Odisha, that would be fantastic. Many have been expecting no seats at all.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 20 Jan 2014 21:33

Death by Media!!
Will Congress withdraw support tomorrow?

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 20 Jan 2014 21:43

Rahul Mehta wrote:
ravi_g wrote:Get real, this is not a coup against NaMo. This is a twisting of statements. And should be treated as such.
The statement comes 5 days after BJP rejected TTN = Transaction Tax Nonsense.

No one has given TTN draft i in past 20 years. So TT is undraftable ideal.

Anywa, if something is NOT even vaugely drafted, demanding such proposal is only hocus pocus.

It is good that BJP opposes TTN. Otherwise, it would have damaged its reputation.

RM ji, if BJP has already rejected it then you need not fear this crazy undraftable ideal. Chill maro bhai ji. Everybody here does realize that things cannot be used to whip up support unless the one producing the idea is willing to produce a draft at the very least. Just the same way a criticism is also not called for since that would amount to killing the bud itself.

Mutations are usable for many different reasons all of which carry truth within them. It is like Bhagwan Ram - Jaaki rahi bhavana jaisi. Arthakranti is both a killjoy for the pakhandis of India (which you are not) and the germ of a great idea and also everything in between. And BJP is a Bania log ki party. These Banias will never waste their efforts on unobtainable.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 20 Jan 2014 21:45

Altair wrote:Death by Media!!
Will Congress withdraw support tomorrow?

BJP should not call for no-confidence motion, let the farce continue, let them burn themselves. Please tweet and FB all BJP - Delhi leaders. Dont call for floor test.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 20 Jan 2014 21:48

CNN IBN Election Tracker says

40% for BJP in Jharkhand. That is humongous! It could be a clean sweep of 14 seats. I expect that after hearing this, there will be a bigger exodus from other parties to BJP in Jharkhand now. More JVM-P people may jump ship. Also AJSU ppl.

Assam is a spot for worrying.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 20 Jan 2014 21:52

Ashutosh (and AAP) imploding on TimesNow. D.P.Tripathi of NCP, took Kejriwal and AAP to the cleaners. AAP has become the shAAP of India.