Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 22 Jan 2014 16:10

A_Gupta wrote:Did Pakistan ever release the results of its 2011-12 census?
Thanks in advance!

Was there a census in Pakistan in 2011 ? There was one in India though. I think that answers your question.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 22 Jan 2014 16:14

SSridhar wrote:
A_Gupta wrote:Did Pakistan ever release the results of its 2011-12 census?
Thanks in advance!
Was there a census in Pakistan in 2011 ? There was one in India though. I think that answers your question.

There was a census in Pakistan in 2011, some preliminary numbers were released.
e.g., http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-1 ... since-1998

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 22 Jan 2014 16:30

Paki census 2011 is a hot potato that no one in power there wants to deal with. PakiSensuous 2011. It might reveal more that it should and lead to internal chaos, therefore, the results have not been declared but the data is yet being "disseminated". But, as is my nature, I seek humor in paki despair. Here's another one for all of us BRFites to chuckle: (List of taboo questions under the census - from the web page above)

E) FERTILITY / MORTALITY (females 15-49 Years)

No. of children ever born by sex
No. of children still living by sex
No. of children born during last 12 months by sex

As Yoda said "In sex believe you pakis. And multiply, Go forth you must". On further examination of the web page, it seems that the dissemination work on the census data is, well, under way. So good news is yet to be delivered that the pakis struck a double century in 2012.

54. Dissemination of Data 30 Jan, 2012 June, 2014
55. Analysis of Data - Oct, 2012 To continue

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 22 Jan 2014 17:00

A_Gupta wrote:There was a census in Pakistan in 2011, some preliminary numbers were released.
e.g., http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-1 ... since-1998

Yeah, I know. But, there has been controversies about the reliability of these numbers.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 22 Jan 2014 19:17

^^ the paki census was ever completed? There was some talk but I never heard any official word about it later.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 22 Jan 2014 19:26

Bangladesh has fertility rate about 2 whereas paki fertility rate is over 3. Bangladesh population stands at 150 million as per their 2011 census. Pakistan is more than 5 times larger than bangladesh. Even 2/3rd of paki land is considered fertile enough, their population must cross 250 million. There is no way, just NO WAY, paki population was only 200 million in 2011. It is INCONCEIVABLE.

My guess is as of 2013 there are about 300 million pakis and breeding.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 22 Jan 2014 19:35

SSridhar wrote:
A_Gupta wrote:There was a census in Pakistan in 2011, some preliminary numbers were released.
e.g., http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-1 ... since-1998
Yeah, I know. But, there has been controversies about the reliability of these numbers.

Precisely why I was asking if anything less preliminary and more official has been released.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 22 Jan 2014 19:44

Till today every pakistani family I came across has minimum 4 kids. Their breeding is astonishing, even in recent generations. Per family how many kids they are producing in pakiland ? 6? 7?

saip · Post by **saip** » 22 Jan 2014 20:04

A_Gupta wrote:
SSridhar wrote:There was a census in Pakistan in 2011, some preliminary numbers were released.
e.g., http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-1 ... since-1998
Yeah, I know. But, there has been controversies about the reliability of these numbers
Precisely why I was asking if anything less preliminary and more official has been released.

I don't think they ever completed the census in 2011. Even now their official site counts only 185,543,000 porkies in Pakistan.

Link

arun · Post by **arun** » 22 Jan 2014 21:17

Dilbu wrote:More attacks on polio in TSP.
Polio security team attacked in Charsadda; seven dead
PESHAWAR: At least seven people were killed and nine others were injured in an explosion near a police mobile van which was on its way for security duty for polio immunisation workers in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa's Charsadda district on Wednesday.

The dead included six policemen and a bystander child.

Security forces in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan again attacked, this time in Balochistan:

Six Pakistani police officers are shot dead protecting Spanish cyclist

arun · Post by **arun** » 22 Jan 2014 21:26

saip wrote:I don't think they ever completed the census in 2011. Even now their official site counts only 185,543,000 porkies in Pakistan.

Link

They did not complete the population census which was slated for October 2011. Things seem to have gone wrong right from the start with the precursor to the population census, the "House Listing" phase which started in April 2011, not being completed as the numbers were disputed. IIRC the "House Listing" phase was still going on in December 2011 and for all I know is still going on.

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 22 Jan 2014 21:36

abhijitm wrote:Till today every pakistani family I came across has minimum 4 kids. Their breeding is astonishing, even in recent generations. Per family how many kids they are producing in pakiland ? 6? 7?

I think its a good idea to provide them electricity. So they can watch Bollywood Movies at copulation prime time. There maybe a method to the madness by the congis. Just saying.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 22 Jan 2014 22:37

Fazl "Fizzle" expresses concern over ‘innocents’ killed in airstrikes.

The usual drivel about innocents being killed...until he gets to this age old question that has perplexed the civilized world for over a millennia:

“What criteria are adopted to ascertain who is a terrorist and who is not,” he inquired.

Er...how about the one who:

1. shouts allahuakbar while firing his favorite AK in the air?
2. has a henna colored beard according to prescribed norms but blows up barber shops that sell henna?
3. wears pajamas that are six inches above the ankles but goes over-emotional when he sees bared women's ankles?
4. looks like a paki, smells like one, walks like one, and thinks like one?
5. carries a satellite phone with duct tape to hold extra batteries?
6. lives among the civilians while entertaining his long lost buddies from cave complex #302 in tora-bora?
7. prefers his goat over his wife?
8. blows up schools but mis-spells "condemn"?
9.
10.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 22 Jan 2014 22:40

rajanb wrote:I think its a good idea to provide them electricity. So they can watch Bollywood Movies at copulation prime time. There maybe a method to the madness by the congis. Just saying.

Research shows that births go up around nine months after power failures. Perhaps less electricity is the strategy to go with. Kilicky Hiyar.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 22 Jan 2014 22:53

saip wrote:
A_Gupta wrote:uote="SSridhar"]There was a census in Pakistan in 2011, some preliminary numbers were released.
e.g., http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-1 ... since-1998

Poakitanu breed rate have been constant 3.7 for the last 2 decades.Currently ~240Million~ and still growing. They are at Doggy and Cat level in breeding now and in next couple of years will rise to Piggy and Rat level for producing variety of retards.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 22 Jan 2014 23:14

I am surprised to see see-near maulanas discussing Paki census. It is always a derived value. When Yindia releases it's GDP per capita, Pakistani population will be derived from Paki value to match India's.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 22 Jan 2014 23:55

Samiul Haq distances himself from peace dialogue
Open Face Sandwitch With Shrimp, Mayo Yand No Onion Please

NOWSHERA: Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam Samiul Haq group (JUI-S) chief Maulana Samiul Haq on Wednesday distanced himself from negotiations between the government and Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) after the recent bombardment in North Waziristan, Khyber Agency and other tribal areas of the country.In a press release issued on January 1 from Darul Uloom Haqqania, Akora Khattak, Haq had stated that he had taken steps to carry forward the agenda of negotiations between the government and the TTP.Haq also stated that he informed the prime minister about the response of the TTP, but didn’t garner any response.The JUI-S chief said, “I sent a detailed letter to the prime minister to draw his attention back to the issue through an email and courier, and avoided to show the letter to media due the sensitivity of the issue.”
“I requested both the parties to Hug, Kiss and Love in traditional Peshawari style and keep themselves away from use of power and military operation,” he added.However, in a later statement, he stated that the military had started shelling in the tribal areas.Haq, who is also chairman of the Difa-e-Pakistan Council said that he put his life at risk for the ‘sake of the country’ but did not find any seriousness for negotiations, therefore, in these times of tension he wanted to keep himself detached altogether.He stated that he respected the media, but refrained from answering any further questions over the matter.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 23 Jan 2014 00:02

Military offensive: Over 50 Pushtun Women and Children killed in Waziristan By Pakistani Air Force air blitzes

Peace Be Upon Yahood, Hanood, Nasara Watching Najara

MALSIABAD / BARA:
Over 50 Civilians were killed and several others injured when fighter jets and helicopter gunships from neighbour Pakistan's air froce bombed the tribal regions of North Waziristan and Khyber, officials said on Tuesday. The air strikes – targeting militant hideouts in Mir Ali, Miramshah and Tirah Valley.
About the Waziristan air raids, a senior security official claimed that at least 40 militants were killed and scores were injured. “On confirmed intelligence reports about the presence of militants, their hideouts were targeted by air strikes last night [Monday night] in North Waziristan Agency,” said the official requesting anonymity. “The militants killed were linked with attacks on Peshawar’s All Saints’ Church, Qissa Khawani Bazaar and Bannu garrison bombing.”
Among the targets was the home of Mujahid Adnan Rashid, a senior militant commander who wrote an open letter last year to Malala Yousafzai, justifying the attack on her. He was also accused of being behind the failed assassination attempt on former military ruler Pervez Musharraf.There were reports about him being killed in the attack, but he escaped unscathed, according to Reuters. Rashid was later seen alive in a marketplace in Miramshah, militant and military sources said.A Miramshah-based intelligence official said the airstrikes and shelling were ongoing (until the filing of this report) and had forced some residents of the area to flee.
In the remote Tirah Valley of Khyber Agency, at least a dozen suspected militants were killed when fighter jets bombed their hideouts in the Inzar Kor area of Kuki Khel. A security official claimed that four militant hideouts were flattened in the blitz. However, he wouldn’t say how many militants were killed in the early morning air raids.When asked, officials dismissed suggestion that the air strikes were the formal beginning of a military offensive against the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and its affiliates.Meanwhile, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif insisted that the nation was united against terrorism and cowardly attacks could not lower its morale. During a visit to the Combined Military Hospital, Rawalpindi, on Tuesday‚ he said the nation was proud of the armed forces personnel ‚ who have offered matchless sacrifices in the fight against militancy.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 23 Jan 2014 02:40

A_Gupta wrote:There was a census in Pakistan in 2011, some preliminary numbers were released.
e.g., http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-1 ... since-1998

Jhujar wrote:Poakitanu breed rate have been constant 3.7 for the last 2 decades.Currently ~240Million~ and still growing. They are at Doggy and Cat level in breeding now and in next couple of years will rise to Piggy and Rat level for producing variety of retards.

Jhujar Ji :
We Pakistanis breed as rabbits, we die like vermin

Our (mis)ruling elite has this uncommon ability to insult the intelligence of the common man. As people fell like chips (bargaining chips actually) in Karachi while the PPP, ANP and the MQM remained entangled in a deadly turf tango, we were told that criminals and a ‘third party’ were responsible for the bloodbath.

This callous inhuman politicking brings one fundamental question to the fore : why is human life so cheap in Pakistan? Why don’t the heavens fall when hundreds are mowed down inexplicably and then forgotten shamelessly? Cruel as it may sound but the answer is shockingly simple: There are simply too many of us. Too many poor. Too many mouths to feed. Too many jobs to create. Too many illiterate children to educate. Too many sick to heal.

Unless the runaway population problem is treated as a national crisis, nothing will work even if the government was being run by celestial beings.

Cheers

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 23 Jan 2014 02:47

Police van targeted : Six guards of vaccinators killed in Charsadda

Cheers

kish · Post by **kish** » 23 Jan 2014 02:56

Thanks be to Allllaaah, the routine karachi deaths are happening without any hindrance from occupation forces like karachi police.

Death toll rises: Violence escalates in city

Nine people, including five in Lyari, were killed while five bodies were found in the city on Wednesday. (AoA)

Violence in Lyari escalated in the evening with the sound of gunshots and explosions of rockets, grenade and awans creating panic among residents. A woman, her son and a relative were among the five people killed while several others were wounded as groups of Baba Ladla and Uzair Baloch, armed with heavy weapons, started attacking each other in parts of Lyari.

I was wondering why video gaming industry(i.e Call of Duty, Modern Warfare) couldn't make any inroads in pakisatan. They are playing it out in real, negating the need for video games.

US please take note: unlike you guys(guantanamo), pakis don't torture their victims. They just shoot and kill fellow pakis, doesn't indulge in human rights violations like torture.

The death of five residents was confirmed by Lyari SP Shahnawaz Khan. A woman, 35-year-old Raquiya, wife of Mukhtar, her son, 12-year-old Madad Ali, and her relative, two-year-old Tabassum, daughter of Najeebullah, lost their lives when an ‘awan’ bomb fired by the gangsters fell inside their house near Juna Masjid in Zikri Mohalla.

Pakis should get nobel prize for inventing this 'awan' bomb. Sad, the world is not recognizing paki inventions.

The bodies of the four men, suspected to be militants of a banned outfit, were found from an empty plot near Link Road, within the limits of the Memon Goth police station in district East — only a few days after three bodies of militants were found from Sharafi Goth. The unidentified bodies were moved to Edhi morgue after medico-legal formalities were completed at the Jinnah Postgraduate Medical Centre

Good news is there is empty plot in pakisatan, can be usurped by land mafia. And yeah, 7 'suspected' militants died in a span of 3 days

According to SHO Naeem Khan, all four victims were wearing shalwar kameez . Three of them appeared to be young whereas the fourth one was believed to be above 50 years of age. The victims were shot multiple times in their heads and faces but their bodies bore no marks of torture. Based on the initial investigation, the police believe that the victims were kidnapped and then killed. A case has been registered and the police is also looking for their families.

paki SHO found that after investigation?

Separately, an unidentified woman was found dead from Block 15 in Gulistan-e-Jauhar. Police officials said that the body, which had torture marks, was placed in a gunny bag. She was hit by a sharp material on her neck and strangled to death, said an official. Her body was moved to the Edhi morgue in Sohrab Goth

arrah has blessed this 'Edhi morgue' with more dead bodies

A police sub-inspector, identified as Nazeer Khaskheli, was shot dead near the Shama Shopping Centre

In Orangi Town, 40-year-old Bashir Ishaq, was shot dead by unidentified armed men

Thirty-year-old Zar Lal, son of Taj Muhammad, was also shot dead in Orangi Town

In Gulshan-e-Buner, an elderly man, 60-year-old Azad Gul, was killed

Jeez, this cancer called pakisatan seceded from India. Else, India would have been a bigger mess like pakisatan.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 23 Jan 2014 03:06

TSP would reach new heights if they name the shooters rather than the victims.

What is a 'awan' bomb?

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 23 Jan 2014 03:19

Cheers

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 23 Jan 2014 03:24

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Cheers [Quote]
You Noticed the Alishan Greater India Region Map.

Mother Britania Ney Bannwa Ke Porkistan Mulaq
Saari Duniya Ko Terrorism Ki Nishani Di Hai
Issme Inbred Bhai Behan Miilan Bacche Hongey,
Terrorism ke Ilawa Yaanha Koi Kusch Kaam Nahi.
Issko Dekh Smaaj Kar Yeh Ghoooman Hotta Hai
Jindagi 72 Paane Ke Sivah Kush Bhi Nahi.
Yeh Qatal o Ghaarrat Yeh Pagali sii Sehar
Kiski Himmat Hai Asli Maaaalsiat Se
Jo Inkaar Karrey!!

kish · Post by **kish** » 23 Jan 2014 03:29

ramana wrote:TSP would reach new heights if they name the dshooters rather than the victims.

What is a 'awan' bomb?

Its the paki version of country bomb. Unlike like their missiles & fighter jets, this one is indigenously designed & manufactured.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 23 Jan 2014 03:39

Jhujar wrote:
Peregrine wrote:[-1390375651-163-640x480.jpg[/img][/url]
Cheers

You Noticed the Alishan Greater India Region Map.

Jhujar :

Raisin Dieter for Posting. Click on India.

Cheers

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 23 Jan 2014 03:50

Jhujar wrote:Military offensive: Over 50 Pushtun Women and Children killed in Waziristan By Pakistani Air Force air blitzes

Peace Be Upon Yahood, Hanood, Nasara Watching Najara

Al Badmash, the shameless, had this to say when he visited a local hospital:

“Those who have sacrificed their lives today for our better tomorrow are our benefactors,” remarked Nawaz

Hmmm...I wonder where he stole that mixed message from?

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 23 Jan 2014 03:51

Peregrine Ji
I had the pleasure and honor of posting this on US India Dangal Dhaga this morning from Original source.Woodrow Wilson Centre asking for same lame train of thought.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 23 Jan 2014 03:54

Peregrine wrote:Raisin Dieter for Posting. Click on India.

Cheers

That's blasphemy. A paki rag/blog showing J&K as a part of India. Jeeeehaaaard!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 23 Jan 2014 04:05

Its an American blog from FP magazine.
TSP can claim conspiracy.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 23 Jan 2014 04:18

Kundi Phass Gye: Naale Maangna Tey Naale Qoorna Ji, KamKaaj Naa Koi Karna Ji

Pakistan won’t accept US aid with strings attached: Ahsan Ali Kundi

ISLAMABAD - Declaring that Pakistan was a sauvereign country and both states should respect each other's laws, Federal Minister for Planning and Development said Tuesday that Islamabad would not accept any US aid with strings attached. Referring to US decision of linking Pakistan's aid with release of Shakil Afridi, the federal minister said that each other's laws should be respected. "Pakistan is a sauvereign country and will not accept any US aid with strings attached," said Ahsan Iqbal while talking to the media after attending Annual Conference of Pakistan Strategy Support Programme (PSSP).
He further said that Pakistan's foreign policy was based on principles of strengthening relations with all states while protecting the interests of the country. Talking about the Pak-US relations, the federal minister said that US administration wanted to further ties with Pakistan and hoped it would press the Congress to refrain from taking such a step. Earlier, addressing the Annalual Conference of Pakistan Strategy Support Programme (PSSP), Ahsan expressed the government's resolve to turn around the economy in the next few years. He said, “We are taking difficult decisions today for the better future of the country”.Ahsan said government was working to exploit livestock of 240 Million people for the development of the country, as these two sectors had great potential. The minister further said, “Pakistan is an KirraCulture-based country but we are going to face water scarcity in coming decades.” He said government was focusing on building institutions to overcome the problem of food scarcity in future according to the vision 2225.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 23 Jan 2014 04:26

How about a rope? (to hang themselves)

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 23 Jan 2014 06:56

I hope Pakistan and Islamic Emirate of Waziristan can set aside their differences and solve all their problems through dialogue for peace and stability in South Asia.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 23 Jan 2014 08:45

On a Wing and a Prayer - Meena Menon, The Hindu

The Pakistan government finds itself between a rock and a hard place. The spate of bombings targeting the security forces and the police, and the blast near the military General Headquarters in Rawalpindi, a day after the suicide attack in the Bannu cantonment, are too close for comfort. Every attack has been claimed by the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), with which the government was mandated to have a dialogue for peace by the All Parties Conference (APC), at its meeting on September 9, 2013.

Within two months of the APC, on November 1, 2013, TTP chief Hakimullah Mehsud was killed by a drone strike and the Minister for Interior, Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, slammed the United States for sabotaging the peace process. He said at a well attended press conference the next day that ties with the U.S. would be reviewed. Some interlocutors had been about to fly to meet Mehsud with a formal invite for talks with the government, he said. Even before that, a week after the APC , militants killed two army officers in Upper Dir, and followed it up with week-long bomb attacks in Peshawar, including an attack on a church that killed over 80 people.

The TTP’s new leader Mullah Fazlullah has refused to talk to the government, if the militant outfit’s publicists are to be believed. The outfit’s recent attacks have not spared even the media. Last week, the TTP brazenly called up a television channel whose staffers it killed in an attack in Karachi to claim responsibility.

Air strikes

Blasts are occurring with unfailing regularity and the government which is putting together a draft National Security Policy can only react in shock and condemnation. The policy envisages a military operation against militants as the last option. At the APC, outgoing army chief, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, was also on the same page as the government on the need for a dialogue. The government keeps saying the army is on the same page even now, despite the constant targeting of security forces. However, there are targeted operations as in December when the security forces killed over 20 militants in North Waziristan after an army checkpost was bombed. After the Bannu attack, the army used air strikes to hit suspected militant hideouts in North Waziristan, which killed 40 terrorists, including top Taliban leaders.

The TTP is putting out conflicting statements, calling for a ceasefire first from the government side and clearly not favouring a dialogue on its avowed aim of spreading the Sharia law across Pakistan. Mr. Chaudhry Nisar, responding to the Bannu Cantonment bombing which claimed the lives of over 20 Frontier Corps men, said the government was in favour of a dialogue with those who believed in peace but it could take action against those who believed in bloodshed.

For some time now, Islamabad has been trying to make a distinction between those elements in Pakistan Taliban that favour a dialogue and those that are unrelenting in their violent quest. {So, the 'bad Taliban' are being further classified as 'good bad Taliban' and 'bad bad Taliban'} It brackets the two late TTP leaders, Wali ur Rehman and Hakimullah Mehsud, as those who favoured a dialogue which couldn’t take off due to their deaths. The government is under tremendous pressure to initiate action but can it negotiate for peace from a position of strength? What are the issues it will take to the table for the talks? The TTP, as the government says, has over 50 factions, making a dialogue difficult.

The unseen enemy which operates from the shadows, as the Interior Minister described the TTP, is clearly calling the shots for now.

The Opposition parties, including a vociferous Imran Khan, leader of the Pakistan Tehreek e Insaf (PTI), have been questioning the dialogue process. How can talks fail when they didn’t take off to begin with, Mr. Khan asked. In Parliament, politicians have repeatedly demanded updates on the talks from the government and the response has left them far from satisfied.

Externally too, Pakistan is under fire for not clamping down on cross-border terrorism, and not curbing the Haqqani network which is engaged in fighting in Afghanistan, something the U.S. has pointed out time and again. It did not help matters that a senior financier of the Haqqani network, Naseeruddin Haqqani, was shot dead in the capital city some time ago.

U.S. funding

President Barack Obama signed a bill last week which clearly linked funding to Pakistan’s actions on terrorism and the release of Dr. Shakil Afridi who is in jail for helping the CIA track down Osama bin Laden in 2011. There are provisions to withhold $33 million unless Dr. Afridi is released and cleared of all charges.

Another provision can block aid until Secretary of State John Kerry certifies that Pakistan is not supporting terrorist activities against the U.S. or the coalition forces in Afghanistan. A key element of the bill is Pakistan’s cooperation with the U.S. to deal with counter terrorism efforts against the Haqqani network and other terror groups, and preventing them from operating from Pakistan.

Pakistan has already reacted with disappointment to the withholding of funds over Dr. Afridi’s release. But the other issues related to preventing cross-border terrorism are equally vital. It is significant that the Prime Minister’s advisor on National Security and Foreign Affairs, Sartaj Aziz, is scheduled to meet Mr. Kerry on January 27 as part of the strategic dialogue ministerial to discuss a range of issues.

The PTI’s blockade of NATO supply lines to protest U.S. drone strikes invited the ire of the U.S., and Secretary of Defence Chuck Hagel, during his visit to Pakistan in December, requested the government to ensure that land routes were kept open.

He reviewed shared concerns regarding the activities of terrorist groups, including the Haqqani network, on Pakistani territory.

While Pakistan’s protests against drone strikes as a violation of its sovereignty have been raised at the United Nations, they cannot overshadow the real threat of terrorism that the country has faced for several years.

With the coalition forces set to leave in a few months and the general elections in Afghanistan, it is not a moment too soon for Pakistan to weigh its options and develop a measured response to the ruthless militancy which had its beginnings even before the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan after 9/11. The government is aware that fire-fighting may not be the best option but in the absence of a focussed and timely strategy, it could continue to be on the back-foot in the war against terror if it doesn’t get its act together soon.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 23 Jan 2014 09:25

anupmisra wrote:Here's another one for all of us BRFites to chuckle: (List of taboo questions under the census - from the web page above)

E) FERTILITY / MORTALITY (females 15-49 Years)

No. of children ever born by sex
No. of children still living by sex
No. of children born during last 12 months by sex

Erm, aren't most children born by (having) sex (unless bakis have high percentage of test-tube babies or a whole lotta instances of the second coming of Christ).

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 23 Jan 2014 10:19

Nawaz for new Strategic Relationship with Saudi Arabia - DT

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif said on Monday Pakistan and Saudi Arabia need to start a new era of strategic relationship to further broaden and deepen the existing cordial bilateral relations. The prime minister expressed these views while talking to Prince Suleman bin Sultan bin Abdul Aziz, deputy defence minister of Saudi Arabia . . .

The Saudi official also called on Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee (CJCSC) Gen Rashad Mahmood on Monday.
According to ISPR, the two dignitaries discussed matters related to mutual interests and ongoing cooperation between the two armed forces, reiterating the resolve to further strengthen the level of bondage and brotherly relations, living up to all challenges.

I think nuclear weapons were the prime reason for this visit.

nawabs · Post by **nawabs** » 23 Jan 2014 10:22

Trade and terrorism incompatible: Sujatha Singh

http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 053_1.html

India on Wedensday asked Pakistan to do the needful to take the trade normalisation dialogue between the two countries forward.

“Until such time as there is political will to implement the required measures, it is difficult to see how we can move forward on any front. The desire is certainly there on both sides, especially at the business level,” Foreign Secretary Sujatha Singh said during her talk on Normalising India-Pakistan Trade at ICRIER here on Wednesday.

Urging Pakistan to take the necessary steps on the measures agreed by both the governments, Singh said while India had always responded to their demands swiftly, Pakistan had failed to return the favour.

“It requires Pakistan to take the first step as specified, in order to trigger the subsequent actions that have been agreed to by both sides,” she said, adding that “trade and terrorism are incompatible” and Pakistan should create an environment in which both were viewed separately.

Rejecting Pakistan’s claims that India’s ”non-tariff barriers” acted as a hindrance to trade, the foreign secretary said: “While it is true India must take more steps to liberalise its external sector, it can be no one’s serious argument that the lack of flight connections between Delhi and Lahore, the visa regime operating between the two countries, or India’s quality and safety certification procedures that are accepted around the world, are in some way aimed at creating a regime of non-tariff barriers against Pakistan-made goods.”

On allowing more goods to be imported from Pakistan through the Attari-Wagah land border stations, Singh said it should be done immediately, as was agreed by both sides in September 2012.

At present, only 137 items are traded through the Attari-Wagah border.

She also asked Pakistan to develop its infrastructure at the Attari-Wagah land border similar to what India had done in April 2012 when a swanky-new integrated check-post was opened for trade at Attari.

Singh said while India has taken several measures to normalise trade with Pakistan, the latter had not reciprocated with the same enthusiasm even after a new government took over in May last year.

Pakistan had recently suspended cross-border trade and the bus service between the two countries after India took into custody a truck plying from Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK) allegedly carrying narcotics.

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 23 Jan 2014 10:30

Erm, aren't most children born by (having) sex (unless bakis have high percentage of test-tube babies or a whole lotta instances of the second coming of Christ).

I think they are substituting sex for gender.

partha · Post by **partha** » 23 Jan 2014 11:04

Some RAPEs who act as if they are peace doves are fed up of state support to militant organizations and are calling for action against TTP, LeJ, XYZ, ABC, DEF etc etc except of course LeT. They have carefully omitted LeT. These are the same people Indian WKK brigade entertains.

partha · Post by **partha** » 23 Jan 2014 14:28

Honeybee's (Mehr Tarar) interview (if you can call it that) with Omar Abdullah.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/mehr ... 38923.html

Why do we allow Pakis to come here and ask questions about sensitive issues? Do they allow our journalists to question Balochistan CM or Gilgit Baltistan CM?

Look at the questions. It is clear that she has an agenda in mind. Pakka agint. This is why we should not get into this liberal visa regime bull c*ap. She tries hard to extract "we want independence from India and want Kashmir to join Pakistan" line from Omar. He did well in this regard but he lies about Kashmiri Pandits.

MT: I read your tweet about India's Mars mission!

What is that? Some kind of objection? You are not happy about it?

OA: For me, it's not about the cheapest technology, or whether our Probe can do anything or not. The fact is that no country has succeeded in reaching Mars in the first attempt. If we reach on our first attempt, khali dabba bhi bhaijen, I don't care as long as we reach there!

As I exchanged Khuda Hafiz with Chief Minister Omar Abdullah on the steps before I got in my car, his "See you in Kashmir one day" expressed his positivity to see an altered status quo between Pakistan and India more than the thousands of words he said to me during the interview

Sure, we would also like a change in status quo. Inshallah one day PoK will return to India.