Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 25 Jan 2014 03:58

mushy wont mind, he's a past master at toe-touching

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 25 Jan 2014 08:43

Indian government to intervene, as Pakistan claims Nizam of Hyderabad's GBP 34 mn

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 25 Jan 2014 13:48

Dilbu wrote:Pay terrorists back in their own coin, forces told
ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Muhammad Nawaz Sharif on Thursday emphasised the need to make the intelligence mechanism more effective and directed the security forces to pay terrorists back in their own coin.

He expressed these views while chairing a high-level meeting on the national security situation here at the Prime Minister’s House.

Chief of Army Staff (COAS) Gen Raheel Sharif, Director General Military Operations (DGMO) Major Gen Amir Riaz, Chief of General Staff Lt. Gen. Ashfaq Nadeem, DG MI Maj. Gen. Sarfaraz Sattar, Defence Minister Khawaja Asif, Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar and DG Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Gen Zahirul Islam attended the meeting.

The meeting was convened in the wake of recent terror incidents in Bannu, Peshawar, Rawalpindi, Mastung and Karachi.

I thought Bakis paid their terrorists in currency notes ???

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 25 Jan 2014 14:31

^^Well it was not in their coin. It was US$.

Now Nawaz wants to pay them in Pakistani Rupees. Fat chance of the terrorists accepting that.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 25 Jan 2014 15:03

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25893040

Sir Peter Fahy, Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police, told the BBC there was "huge concern" Britons returning after fighting in Syria pose a threat to the UK.

So britons are going to fight in Syria. Guess who they are?

The Centre for the Study of Radicalisation at King's College London say most British jihadists are university-educated Muslims of British Pakistani origin in their 20s.

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 25 Jan 2014 18:25

Anujan wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25893040

Sir Peter Fahy, Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police, told the BBC there was "huge concern" Britons returning after fighting in Syria pose a threat to the UK.
So britons are going to fight in Syria. Guess who they are?......

Duh. Clearly they are South Asians.

kancha · Post by **kancha** » 25 Jan 2014 18:45

@nadeemmalik 2h
So called Friends of #Pakistan refused to provide anything after Tokyo round, as Pak launched Swat Operation. Fake Promise of $6 Billion aid

Mercenary army not paid for services rendered - shame on the world!

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 25 Jan 2014 23:37

Attacks near MQM-Haqiqi chief's house kill six in Karachi
Mohajirs VS MCs: Qital Is Matter Little To Malsiatal

KARACHI: At least six policemen were killed and several people injured when police vehicles came under attack near the residence of Muhajir Qaumi Movement-Haqiqi (MQM-H) chief Afaq Ahmed in Karachi’s Landhi neighbourhood on Saturday night, DawnNews reported.HIV reports suggest that the first attack occurred in Landhi number 6 area when unidentified miscreants hurled a hand grenade inside a police mobile positioned outside Afaq Ahmed's house. Three policemen were killed in the incident.
The MQM-H leader remained safe in the attack as he was not currently living at his Landhi residence.Later, another police mobile was attacked near Landhi Hospital when unidentified gunmen opened fire on it killing three police personnel on the spot. A passerby was also injured in the incident.Injured were shifted to Jinnah Hospital in reportedly critical condition.Meanwhile, Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) MPA Muhammad Kamran Farooqi came under attack when unknown gunmen opened fire on his car in North Karachi.Farooqi escaped the attack unhurt, however, his personal guard sustained wounds.Karachi, the largest metropolitan city of Pakistan, is riddled with targeted killings, gang wars, kidnappings for ransom, extortion and terrorism.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 25 Jan 2014 23:41

Deputy secretary of National Assembly kidnapped in Mulestan

Wohi Purana , RansomWala, Malsi Bahana in Land of Pakhana

MULESTAN: Unknown men kidnapped Malik Moazzam Kalru, the deputy secretary of the National Assembly, from Multan on Saturday.Malik was on holiday in Multan and was going to his farmhouse from his residence near Basti Malook.He was near his farmhouse when his vehicle was stopped by four persons who were veiled and armed. According to eyewitness statements, he was beaten with guns till he gave in to the kidnappers.The kidnappers escaped towards the district of Muzaffargarh.Following the kidnapping, the Muzaffargrah police cordoned off the area surrounding the city.The initial investigation of the police suggests there is no family enmity that would lead to the abduction.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 26 Jan 2014 01:18

Madrassa education : a threat to peace and tolerance

What the majority of madrassas do is they divide society between ‘us’ and ‘them, they divide society on religious lines and thus break the very ideology on which basis this country was founded

Traditionally, madrassas (seminaries) have been a source of all types of knowledge for Muslims where education, even in the science subjects, was provided. With the passage of time, the role of the traditional madrassas has been restricted just to impart religious education. In Pakistan, such religious schools have not been controlled and administered properly, which is the reason why extremist elements are being produced in these religious seminaries. The history of this uncontrolled madrassa system in Pakistan dates back to the 1980s when the US and Saudi Arabia poured almost four billion dollars for setting up religious schools, the madrassas, and, since then, such schools have become the breeding ground for religious extremists in Pakistan, thus worsening the security conditions even more.

Cheers

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 26 Jan 2014 02:27

BTW Talibs have issued a fatwa against journalists. They have made a list and divided them into three groups

Murjif - Those who engage in propaganda against Muslims during a war between Islam and infidels
Muqatil - Those who incite infidels and their allies to act against Muslims
Sa’ee bil fasad - Those who corrupt Muslim society like calling for secular ideologies

Not sure if membership is exclusive or if someone can appear in multiple categories. The punishment for all three is ofcourse bull-cutlet so not sure why make up 3 different categories at all.

The journalists are all browning their pants. Expect no articles against TTP in the future and all praises for the more green. Already express news have pleaded with TTP to stop attacking them and Ansar Abbasi has stated that the talibs attack because Pakistanis are not "good muslims"

These fellows know how to wage a psy-war

partha · Post by **partha** » 26 Jan 2014 03:12

Anujan wrote:BTW Talibs have issued a fatwa against journalists. They have made a list and divided them into three groups

Not sure if membership is exclusive or if someone can appear in multiple categories. The punishment for all three is ofcourse bull-cutlet so not sure why make up 3 different categories at all.

As you have said it is psy war. Btw if my observation is correct none of the news groups covered TTP attack on Express news except of course express news. Not even a small story.

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 26 Jan 2014 07:29

TSP bans Indian movie : Ba$tard Child trailer:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P3xWa-pBtdQ

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 26 Jan 2014 09:36

Interesting, I will look for this film. After all Bangladesh 1971 was a famous military victory for South Asia, when it fought against South Asia.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 26 Jan 2014 12:43

Kinda sad that a teenager was killed, but something smacks of darwinism here:
Teenager fatally electrocuted after putting his ear to live rail to listen to the tracks to see if his train was coming

A teenage boy was fatally electrocuted after trying to 'listen' to train tracks – as is done in his native Pakistan.
Kanwal Butt, 17, suffered severe burns and died immediately after putting his ear to the live rail to see if his train was approaching Godstone station in Surrey, an inquest heard.
Kanwal, who had come to the UK from Pakistan with his family 18 months earlier, had already walked across the tracks to the intercom to ask staff why his train was late.
The 17-year-old then clambered down from the platform again, knelt down and leaned towards the deadly rail, which discharged a shock that killed him instantly.

‘I can’t believe this has happened and my family are all in great shock.’

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 26 Jan 2014 13:20

ArmenT wrote:Kinda sad that a teenager was killed, but something smacks of darwinism here:
Teenager fatally electrocuted after putting his ear to live rail to listen to the tracks to see if his train was coming

‘I can’t believe this has happened and my family are all in great shock.’

This would not have happened if Indian electricity had not been imported. The rail would have been dead, not the boy.

partha · Post by **partha** » 26 Jan 2014 15:44

Another farce. I hereby give MFN (Most Farcical Nation) status to Pakistan. MFN status to India is like Aug 14th Jinnah speech. Pakis will keep on mentioning it without any effect whatsoever.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1082756/mfn-st ... -the-cards

MFN status for India on the cards

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/busi ... 407883.cms

Sept 8, 2013: Pakistan to grant MFN status to India

http://articles.economictimes.indiatime ... d-pakistan

Jan 17, 2014: MFN Status for India soon, but not Immediately: Pakistan

http://zeenews.india.com/business/news/ ... 88838.html

Nov 15, 2013: MFN status must for India: Pakistani industry chamber

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp ... 260502.ece

Jan 1, 2013: Pak. MFN status for India delayed

http://pakteahouse.net/2011/11/04/india ... come-true/

Nov 4th, 2011: India declared MFN—A dream come true

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/paki ... 58731.html

Nov 5th, 2011: Pakistan envoy denies U-turn on MFN status to India

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2012/05 ... r-goes-by/

May 3, 2012: Pakistan set to accord MFN status to India before the year goes by

http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/m ... an/885856/

Dec 9, 2011: MFN status for India by October: Pakistan

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 26 Jan 2014 16:04

partha wrote:MFN status for India on the cards

What TSP is saying is that it is laying down fresh conditions after negotiating with India and agreeing to a road map. It says that if India does not agree to the new terms, it will take another 3 years. The caption in DAWN is deliberately misleading.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 27 Jan 2014 00:15

Six kids killed in Hangu hand grenade explosion

HANGU : Six children of an internally displaced family were killed when a live hand grenade, which they thought was a ball, exploded in their hands here on Sunday, police said.

Cheers

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 27 Jan 2014 03:36

Pak troops violate ceasefire on R-Day

SRINAGAR/JAMMU : In a fresh ceasefire violation along the line of control in Kashmir, Pakistani troops on Sunday resorted to unprovoked firing for three hours on a day the nation celebrated its 65th Republic Day.

Cheers

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Jan 2014 03:47

Anujan, Any insight what would happen in TSP if Malala Yousufzai got a Nobel Prize? Either Peace or Literature.

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 27 Jan 2014 08:43

from the following link

A Sikh community member, Sardar Kalyan Singh, said that when they go to Peshawar or FATA, they have to pay Jizyah, which is sometimes Rs25,000, per person per year.

“Two days ago, a member of the Sikh community was killed because he refused to pay Jizya

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 27 Jan 2014 09:04

Anindya wrote:from the following link

A Sikh community member, Sardar Kalyan Singh, said that when they go to Peshawar or FATA, they have to pay Jizyah, which is sometimes Rs25,000, per person per year.

“Two days ago, a member of the Sikh community was killed because he refused to pay Jizya

Not surprising, Anindya. Wasn't it in c. 2008, when the Islamic Emirate of Pakistan was established in FATA (and in some pockets of PATA too) in its full glory that jizyah was enforced and the Sikh community emigrated from there to safer areas ? I recall that one or two who refused to pay were even killed and some abducted. Such an order, once issued, cannot be rescinded and is therefore in force still.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 27 Jan 2014 10:23

The firing was not R day related. It was across the LoC route used for trades and related to the fact that a bunch of pakis were caught pants down smuggling heroin. Pakistan is arguing that they have diplomatic immunity and are holding our trucks and truckers in retaliation.

ramana-ji will compose a bigger reply.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 27 Jan 2014 12:03

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-1 ... f-the-West

The Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-Fazl (JUI-F) chief Maulana Fazlur Rahman on Sunday came hard on the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government and termed it a representative of the West.

No comments.

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 27 Jan 2014 12:08

Anujan wrote:http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-1 ... f-the-West

The Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-Fazl (JUI-F) chief Maulana Fazlur Rahman on Sunday came hard on the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government and termed it a representative of the West.
No comments.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 27 Jan 2014 12:23

Anujan wrote:http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-1 ... f-the-West

The Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-Fazl (JUI-F) chief Maulana Fazlur Rahman on Sunday came hard on the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government and termed it a representative of the West.
No comments.

How come ? Who is behind him when he makes such statements ?

menon s · Post by **menon s** » 27 Jan 2014 12:45

THE SOUL OF A MAN CAN ONLY BE TOUCHED BY TERROR

i recently came across a book written by a retired Pakistani Brigadier, S K malik, " The Quranic Concept Of War"
The book written in 1979, is well known amongst Indian Army . The book has forward written by Zia himself.

some points are really revealing:

1.The quranic military strategy enjoins us to prepare ourselves for war, to the out most in order to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies.
2. Terror is not a means of imposing decision upon the enemy, it is the decision we wish to impose.
3. Strike Terror, but never feel terror.
4. The ultimate objective of this form of warfare revolves around the human heart the enemies soul, spirit and faith.
5. Terror can be installed only if the opponents faith is destroyed.
6. It is essential in the ultimate analysis to dislocate the enemies faith.
7. Psychological dislocation, is temporary, spiritual dislocation, is permanent.
8. The soul of man can only be touched by terror.

It seems powerful, but from what we know, the PA will outsource terror and be happy looking after business like making corn flakes and NLC and will not keep the water from boiling over since it will affect their personal aggrandizement plans.

any way happy reading.
http://wolfpangloss.files.wordpress.com ... of-war.pdf

partha · Post by **partha** » 27 Jan 2014 13:06

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/27/world ... .html?_r=1

Their concern is that the nearest alternative bases are too far away for drones to reach the mountainous territory in Pakistan where the remnants of Al Qaeda’s central command are hiding. Those bases would also be too distant to monitor and respond as quickly as American forces can today if there were a crisis in the region, such as missing nuclear material or weapons in Pakistan and India.

wut?! So US forces in Afghanistan monitoring nuclear material and weapons in India?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 27 Jan 2014 13:20

menon s wrote:i recently came across a book written by a retired Pakistani Brigadier, S K malik, " The Quranic Concept Of War"
The book has forward written by Zia himself.

Gen. Zia-ul-Haq requested the author to write the book.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 27 Jan 2014 13:44

From today's editorial in DT,

Perceptive observers are advising the US to include Pakistan in its Asia ‘pivot’ so as to allay the feelings of abandonment creeping into Islamabad’s feelings, a process of shrinkage that may otherwise increase once the US is out of Afghanistan.

Very clever indeed. The 'problem' always wants to be the 'solution' too since the 60s.

partha · Post by **partha** » 27 Jan 2014 13:57

^
A clear case of a country with client state mentality without any vision of its own. And then they blame foreign hand for everything. It seems like the top 1% feudal lords of Pakistan want Pakistan forever to be a dependent country for in it lies maximum benefit for them.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 27 Jan 2014 14:03

They are actually accepting that that have "shrinkage" now?

partha · Post by **partha** » 27 Jan 2014 14:20

hmm..it looks like Pakis have started lobbying to push forward the 'pivot of Asia' idea. Expect more articles around this idea in the run up to 2014 US withdrawal.

Some Murky fellow from CFR, a DC based influential think tank also has proposed the same -

http://www.cfr.org/pakistan/reorienting ... now/p32247

Reorienting U.S. Pakistan Strategy: Three Things to Know

Speaker: Daniel S. Markey, Senior Fellow for India, Pakistan, and South Asia
January 21, 2014

Beyond 'Af-Pak': The United States has "enduring concerns in Pakistan" beyond the war in Afghanistan, Markey says. Terrorist networks, political instability, internal violence, and a weak economy "have the potential to make Pakistan a threat to itself and its neighbors for years to come."

Part of Asia Pivot: Pakistan's regional ties, particularly with India and China, could prove to be an obstacle or a boon for U.S. interests in the region. Washington's future relationship with Pakistan should be integrated into the Obama administration's rebalancing of its foreign policy toward Asia, Markey says. "A U.S. strategy for Asia that does not consider Pakistan's role is incomplete."

Two-Pronged Approach: Washington should quarantine Pakistan-based security threats while working to enhance the country's own security and economic development, Markey says.

More in this link -

http://www.cfr.org/pakistan/reorienting ... istan_csr/

The report, Reorienting U.S. Pakistan Strategy: From Af-Pak to Asia, outlines a two-pronged approach to future U.S. policy for Pakistan: defend against security threats, and support Pakistan's economic growth and normalized relations with its neighbors. Markey recommends that the United States:

launch a new diplomatic dialogue with China, India, and Pakistan to reduce prospects for regional tension and violence;

sign a trade deal that also encourages trade between India and Pakistan;

reallocate assistance in Pakistan to improve trade and transit infrastructure; and

integrate Pakistan into East and South Asia policymaking across the State Department, National Security Council, and Department of Defense, and deemphasize the Af-Pak connection.

menon s · Post by **menon s** » 27 Jan 2014 15:29

well if Taliban takes over Rawalpindi, then, India will take over air superiority of Pakistani skies. To my knowledge even dhothi wearing MMS agreed on that. The one and the only way, taliban wants to commemorate their take over of Pakistan will be to nuke Indian cities.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 27 Jan 2014 17:55

no dry fruits

Dry fruits: once a common winter treat of every household

Dry fruits were once considered as the most common item of every household during the winter season but short production of dry fruits in growing areas of the world during the current winter season and marked decline in the value of local currency against the dollar have pushed them beyond the buying capacity of a majority of consumers in Karachi like elsewhere across the country.

Currently a fine quality one kilogramme (kg) of the item is available at Rs 240 per kg while rest of the items are not less than Rs 400 to Rs 3,000 per kg depending on the quality demanded by the consumers.

Wall nuts rates have peaked to Rs 400 to Rs 450 per kg as compared to previous year price of Rs 320 to Rs 350 per kg.

Similarly price of cashew nuts have also gone up to Rs 1,100 to Rs 1,200 per kg as compared to Rs 1,000 per kg the previous year.

Good quality raisins' prices during the current winter season have also risen to Rs 300 to Rs 320 per kg from Rs 280 per kg last year.

Pine nuts price which was previously priced at a very high rate in the market at Rs 2,000 to Rs 2,400 per kg in main city markets, has further gone up to Rs 2,500 per kg to Rs 2,800 per kg.

Fig rates have also jumped to the level of Rs 500 to Rs 600 per kg as compared to previous year's rates of Rs 400 to Rs 500 per kg.

Similarly almond is currently available in the market at around Rs 1,400 per kg which is quite high as compared to previous rate of Rs 1,000 per kg.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 27 Jan 2014 18:07

on the topic of striking terror in heart of enemies by TSPA here is how the brave mujahid will do it

Musharraf counting on foreign friends for escaping from Pakistan

Former Pakistani President General Pervez Musharraf seems to be banking upon the review petition against the Supreme Court's order in the high treason case, as well as some political deal under discussion with his foreign friends for his escape from the country.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 27 Jan 2014 18:54

partha wrote:
wut?! So US forces in Afghanistan monitoring nuclear material and weapons in India?

Because India TSP equal equal. Not just about monitoring, to also make sure that India does not "harm" its TSP munna after TSP's usual "understandable" itch to strike India with its pigLeTs.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 27 Jan 2014 18:56

>>Good quality raisins'

prices during the current winter season have also risen to Rs 300 to Rs 320 per kg from Rs 280 per kg last year.

They are being forced to become raisin dieters then!!!

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 27 Jan 2014 23:24

Paki security concerns must be addressed with US withdrawal

Islamabad wanted to turn a “transactional relationship” into a deeper partnership in which the United States “will not look at Pakistan from the two specific lenses of Afghanistan and terrorism

So, bakis are willing to disassociate themselves from their "need" for strategic depth and their "inherent urge" to blow things up? Looks the lawhore-mandi dancing girl is now demanding a wedding ring instead of banking on a hourly contract to pay for her needs and urges.

Not unless the pigs fly and explode in mid air, we will.