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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby AdityaM » 26 Jan 2014 11:07

DD cameramen need to be lynched for showing indisciplined babu's with their shabbily dressed kids rather than the fly past. The last Su30 was not even shown

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby member_23694 » 26 Jan 2014 11:08

i have had enough of the DD cameraman. Whether it is rocket launches or fly past by the the IAF fighters today. Pathetic. Nothing seems to be visible rather they show the crowd :evil:

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby Sid » 26 Jan 2014 11:08

Arjun MK 2 was mean looking in dark camo. LCAs front view was totally covered by that ugly MOD sign.

And some mango DD Wala forgot to focus on vertical charlie by MKI, instead focussing on people pointing towards the sky.. DUH!!!

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby member_23455 » 26 Jan 2014 11:16

Raja Bose wrote:Wait....I thought there was no Ashok Chakra awarded this year? Can someone confirm?


That is correct, except that previous year awardees can be honoured in the subsequent R-Day.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/south/andhra-pradesh-cop-to-get-ashok-chakra-posthumously-406225

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby SaiK » 26 Jan 2014 11:22

matrimc wrote:Wishing all Indians and PIOs and OCIs all over the world a very happy republic day.

+1 with additions.
happy RD!

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby member_28108 » 26 Jan 2014 11:27

Ashok Chakra was awarded

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby RoyG » 26 Jan 2014 12:25

What a garbage parade. I mean seriously, DD coverage was terrible. The showcases were all terrible. Modi please save this tradition from Congress. Why are the paras adopting the paki routine?

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby SivaVijay » 26 Jan 2014 12:37

A sarkari halfsir is a sarkari halfsir... be it behind a table or a camera. Lots of crowd coverage and in between that some contingents were shown :( ....BAD! BAD ! DD

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby Raja Bose » 26 Jan 2014 12:41

prasannasimha wrote:Ashok Chakra was awarded


Who was the awardee. Please post the award citation in the Heroism thread.

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby sattili » 26 Jan 2014 13:29

RoyG wrote:What a garbage parade. I mean seriously, DD coverage was terrible. The showcases were all terrible. Modi please save this tradition from Congress. Why are the paras adopting the paki routine?

And he will get the highly decorated Gujarat regiment to march on rajpath with all its valor on display??? Keep the Modi rants out of this thread please.

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby atreya » 26 Jan 2014 13:33

Raja Bose wrote:
prasannasimha wrote:Ashok Chakra was awarded


Who was the awardee. Please post the award citation in the Heroism thread.


Here you go saar

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/andhra-polic ... 33-62.html

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby williams » 26 Jan 2014 13:34

Happy Republic day every one! Not bad for a country to uphold its great ideas for 65 year! People may come and go, but the idea of Bharat will not change. Let us celebrate it proudly!

"WE, THE PEOPLE OF INDIA, having solemnly resolved to constitute India into a SOVEREIGN SOCIALIST SECULAR DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC and to secure to all its citizens:

JUSTICE, social, economic and political;

LIBERTY, of thought, expression, belief, faith and worship;

EQUALITY of status and of opportunity;

and to promote among them all

FRATERNITY assuring the dignity of the individual and the unity and integrity of the Nation;

IN OUR CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY this twenty-sixth day of November, 1949,DO HEREBY ADOPT, ENACT AND GIVE TO OURSELVES THIS CONSTITUTION."

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby Rupesh » 26 Jan 2014 13:43

DD's youtube coverage was good.

I liked Pranab Da's address to nation on the eve of Republic Day.

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby nelson » 26 Jan 2014 14:05

atreya wrote:
Raja Bose wrote:...

Who was the awardee. Please post the award citation in the Heroism thread.


Here you go saar

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/andhra-polic ... 33-62.html


That was independence day '13.

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby Kersi D » 26 Jan 2014 14:32

uddu wrote:Some changes can be made in what is displayed and what should be displayed?
There can be some simple rules which can be enforced that can make the parade a lot better.
1) Always showcase indigenous weapon systems.
{ex: instead of OSA, always showcase Akash-i, ii, Arjun MK-1 and MK-II instead of T-90s and T-72s, Dhruvs instead of Chetaks. Always Pinaka instead of Smerch. This applied to things like Brahmos with Block I, II, III etc can be showcased once it gets inducted.}
2) Any induction of foreign maal will be displayed only once on the year of its induction or the next year, not on all years. Major improvements can be shown once that gets inducted.
3) Flight display always by Tejas and vertical charlie by Su-30 MKI
4) All display must meet good quality and stringent requirements. The money whatever be spend be spend wisely. Here also display indigenous tech instead of foreign maal. Arihant instead of Kilo. Even the Saryu class patrol vessel must have been appropriate over foreign stuff.


Good Idea. :D

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby kmc_chacko » 26 Jan 2014 14:39

Happy Republic Day every BRF members

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby Kersi D » 26 Jan 2014 14:40

All sad and done, Our Republic Day Parade is simpy superb, year after year.

As long as the military is concerned Soviet Union used to have a May Day parade. Do they still have it ?

The French also had something similar

Which other countries have such a parade ?

K

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby rajanb » 26 Jan 2014 14:54

JE Menon wrote:No Tejas flypast or did I miss it?


They don't fly single engine a/c over Dilli, because of bird menace. So no Tejas flypast

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby Viv S » 26 Jan 2014 17:46

The Janpath road has track imprints showing.

It precedes the Arjun Mk2. See pic.

Could be the T-90s be responsible? They appear to have some sort of metal reinforcement in their track rubber. See pic.

Or was it one of the heavier ARVs or missile vehicles.

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby saip » 26 Jan 2014 20:36

nelson wrote:
atreya wrote:..

Who was the awardee. Please post the award citation in the Heroism thread.


Here you go saar

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/andhra-polic ... 33-62.html

That was independence day '13.


Ashok Chakra for Andhra Pradesh's braveheart cop, who died fighting Maoists

May be he was nominated on Aug 15, 2013 but the award was given this Republic day?

http://www.samachar.com/Ashok-Chakra-for-Andhra-Pradeshs-braveheart-cop-who-died-fighting-Maoists-ob0tJWjgjij.html

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby ParasuramanS » 27 Jan 2014 04:52

Now that the spectacle is over, here is my take on badly-needed improvements to the Republic Day event:

1) Unabashed display of nuclear prowess - The republic day should make every Indian feel secure, and proud, and strike fear into the bones of the adversary. Every year India's most powerful weapons should be showcased in full glory. Not scale models or floats. Give me the real Agni IVs, and Vs. Don't drag them in a trailer for display - but drive down a squadron of full-loaded TELs. It was travesty that no Agnis were shown to pacify "Japanese" sentiments. We are a very confused people. Would we want (or can we have?) a strategic partnership with a country that does not respect us as a nuclear power? You don't earn respect in the comity of nations by sacrificing your own interests. You don't stay a nuclear power, by shying away from showing of your own strengths and achievements.

2) The President and politicians should be taught to salute properly. Watching President Pranab made my wrist hurt, and the RM's salutes to the service chiefs were more a display of disdain than respect. They must be taught the proper protocols (saluting, national flag, anthems, pledge, etc.), and failure to comply must be treated as a bookable offence.

3) DD commentators should leave the hyperbole home. No more adjectives, and meaningless phrases - "touching the sky with glory", etc.". Would rather more informed commentators speak to the sacrifices made by the men and women - in plain, unembellished, and raw language. Weapon systems must be placed in context and realism. Call a spade a spade. No point fooling the junta that the Mig-29 is state of the art.

4) The Paras should stop the double-march with immediate effect. Shows the battle (in psyops) has been lost before it has even begun. Physical toughness can be demonstrated in missions and wars - where they count. By aping the Pakis and the Iraqi Republican Guards (or whomever else), we are shooting ourselves in the foot.

5) A Contingent/Float approval committee - if in place - must be revamped. If not in place - it really shows. The floats that do not meet quality requirements must be rejected. The Tipu Sultan float was a travesty to the millions whose ancestors were raped and pilaged by this tyrant. The Lesser said about some of the obvious others the better. The Navy. DRDO and several others ought to be ashamed.

6) A sobering up of the marching armed forces marching contingents need to occur. This is a separate issue on its own altogether - Red-uniform wearing marching brass bands, bagpipes and peacock hats may have a place, but too much of a nod to colonial military traditions is not good for morale. It is a tricky thing - how to have a quintessential Indian uniqueness (core identity), a 21st century outlook (modernity), and still stay true to the past (tradition). All services need to get together and consider this issue in a comprehensive manner looking at flags, symbols, uniforms and style.

7) The camouflage schemes on Indian military vehicles and weapons systems continue to be atrocious. Bright and garish paint schemes may be overlooked by the masses, but where it counts, in the eyes of our potential adversaries - they send a hopeful message of unabashed incompetency.

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby Gurneesh » 27 Jan 2014 06:16

^^^ Bright camos make sense during parade as the main objective is to improve visibility and appeal. Traditional army camos like the dull yellow/beige for T90's in desert or the olive green may not be that appealing to the general crowd.

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby PratikDas » 27 Jan 2014 09:06

"Touch the Sky with Glory" is the IAF's motto, not a meaningless phrase.

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby merlin » 27 Jan 2014 13:21

A very visible downgrade in the Republic Day parade this year. Very little hardware shown, a half-hearted attempt. I would say this was the worse parade in all the years I was watching it. IA as usual showed only foreign maal. Only the marching contingents were outstanding as usual. Goes without saying that the politicos are a disgrace as usual. No enthusiasm, disdain for what they are watching clearly visible on their faces, its like they would rather not be there.

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby sarkar » 27 Jan 2014 14:12

This year's republic day parade was pretty much same as it was, as long as I can remember. Only new thing I saw is the excitement of spectators watching SU30MKI doing whatever over their head.

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby rsingh » 27 Jan 2014 19:59

Kersi D wrote:
uddu wrote:Some changes can be made in what is displayed and what should be displayed?
There can be some simple rules which can be enforced that can make the parade a lot better.
1) Always showcase indigenous weapon systems.
{ex: instead of OSA, always showcase Akash-i, ii, Arjun MK-1 and MK-II instead of T-90s and T-72s, Dhruvs instead of Chetaks. Always Pinaka instead of Smerch. This applied to things like Brahmos with Block I, II, III etc can be showcased once it gets inducted.}
2) Any induction of foreign maal will be displayed only once on the year of its induction or the next year, not on all years. Major improvements can be shown once that gets inducted.
3) Flight display always by Tejas and vertical charlie by Su-30 MKI
4) All display must meet good quality and stringent requirements. The money whatever be spend be spend wisely. Here also display indigenous tech instead of foreign maal. Arihant instead of Kilo. Even the Saryu class patrol vessel must have been appropriate over foreign stuff.


Good Idea. :D


+no bright candy colours on weapon system. Who in right mind will paint the fluo orange or yellow on weapons. And who designed that submarine model???

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby member_20067 » 27 Jan 2014 20:59

Kersi D wrote:All sad and done, Our Republic Day Parade is simpy superb, year after year.

As long as the military is concerned Soviet Union used to have a May Day parade. Do they still have it ?

The French also had something similar

Which other countries have such a parade ?

K


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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby rajatmisra » 27 Jan 2014 21:57

Very basic question from a civvie: what is the order in which army marching contingents appear? In order of seniority? If that, then why were paras in the front?

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby rajatmisra » 27 Jan 2014 22:00

And every central police force had a band and a marching contingent.
Only delhi police seemed to use the .303 rifles, everyone else was with insas

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby member_23455 » 27 Jan 2014 22:24

rajatmisra wrote:And every central police force had a band and a marching contingent.
Only delhi police seemed to use the .303 rifles, everyone else was with insas


Not quite...Look again at the Para (SF) and NCC contingents.

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby rohitvats » 27 Jan 2014 23:51

rajatmisra wrote:Very basic question from a civvie: what is the order in which army marching contingents appear? In order of seniority? If that, then why were paras in the front?


You are right in your assumption that the marching contingent of the infantry is in order of precedence.

And Para was in front because it is second most senior regiment after Brigade of Guards - I think like Guards, it draws its seniority by virtue of the seniority of infantry battalions which formed the nucleus of the regiment.

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby Viv S » 28 Jan 2014 01:11

rohitvats wrote:You are right in your assumption that the marching contingent of the infantry is in order of precedence.

And Para was in front because it is second most senior regiment after Brigade of Guards - I think like Guards, it draws its seniority by virtue of the seniority of infantry battalions which formed the nucleus of the regiment.


Are you sure? The Para Regt's origins goes back just to WW II. Its the Para Cdo/SF units that trace their history back to the Guards.

It was my understanding that the Paras lead the other contingents because they can't synchronize with the others, while double marching.

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby svinayak » 28 Jan 2014 12:00

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51 years ago Jawaharlal Nehru invited RSS to march in the Republic Day parade, to thank them for their immense civilian side help during the 1962 war. A proud moment for Sangh


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Last April, this brave Sub Inspector K Prasad Babu fought 200 naxals, killed 9, saved 4 fellow jawans and sacrificed his own life. Yesterday, India honoured him with an Ashok Chakra. Respect for this Andhra Pradesh brave heart cop!

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby vaibhav.n » 28 Jan 2014 13:40

The oldest parachute formations are the following:

The 152nd Indian Parachute Battalion formed at Delhi in 1941 and was part of the newly created 50th Parachute Brigade.In March 1944, it played a role in the epic defensive battle of Sangshak when the 50th Parachute Brigade was overrun but blunted the Japanese offensive against Imphal and Kohima.

There was also a Gurkha Parachute Battalion formed from the 3/7 Gurkha Rifles in 1943 and served with the 50th Parachute Brigade.It was re-designated the 3rd Battalion The Indian Parachute Regiment in March 1945.The only airborne operation undertaken by the Brigade was a successful parachute assault mounted on the 1st May 1945 by this composite Gurkha parachute battalion group on Japanese defensive positions at Elephant point, at the mouth of the Rangoon River. Post independence, the government only retained one Parachute Brigade (50 Independent Parachute Brigade). This brigade comprised of three distinguished battalions personally nominated by the then C-in-C, namely:

1st Bn (ex 1 Punjab)
2nd Bn (ex 3 MLI)
3rd Bn (ex 1 Kumaon)

The senior most battalions;
1 Para SF (1 Punjab) traces its lineage to the erstwhile Coastal Sepoys Battalion raised in 1761 and through various reorganisations later on became the 1st Bn\2nd Punjab Regiment.

2 Para SF (3 MLI) was raised in Calicut in 1797 as the 2nd Battalion the 5th (Travancore) Regiment and later became the 3rd Bn/5th Mahratta Light Infantry.

While 3 Para SF (1 Kumaon) traces its origins to Henry Russell's Brigade at Hyderabad and was raised in 1813 and as 1st Bn/50th Kumaon Rifles. The modern day Kumaon Regiment takes it insignia from the Russell family coat of arms.

9 Para SF raised in 1966 does trace it origins to the Brigade of the Guards. It was further split into two to form 10 Para Commando in 1967 as Para Commando units. However, its senior-most battalions predate. thus it come second in terms of seniority after the Brigade of Guards.
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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby vonkabra » 28 Jan 2014 14:06

Personally I think the standard of Republic Day parade has been declining over the years. Maybe equipment was inferior in the old days, but the scale of the parade was far larger. To take one example, in the 1980s the parade usually started with a what seemed like a regiment of T-72s, followed by the same number of Vijaynatas and T-55s. Today we have a token 3 T-90s leading the parade and a solitary Arjun bringing up the rear. Austerity is all very well, but not on an occasion when the nation's military might is supposed to be on display.

Of course DD maintains its tradition of turning the cameras to the President/ PM/ Chief Guest or other parts of the audience just when something interesting turns up on the parade. I suppose the mandarins at DD believe ratings might drop if the viewing public doesn't get a healthy dose of our political personalities.

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby krishnan » 28 Jan 2014 14:51

because Kalam sir wanted to cut short the military thing and put more cultural stuff in

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby Amber G. » 29 Jan 2014 00:43

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(The Google doodle on January 26 on the India homepage sees motorcycle daredevils who represent a unit of the armed forces painted in the Indian tri-colours.

The characters are seen carrying the doodle that has saffron, white and green - the colours of the Indian flag. G, O, G, L, E are in green while the middle O is saffron as the space surrounding the doodle is white.

When one clicks on the doodle, it leads to search results about Republic Day.)

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby ramana » 29 Jan 2014 05:00

PratikDas wrote:"Touch the Sky with Glory" is the IAF's motto, not a meaningless phrase.



My feeling too!

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby ramana » 29 Jan 2014 05:10

Hats off to the brave young police officer. He brings a lump in the throat.

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Re: Republic day 2014

Postby member_20317 » 29 Jan 2014 19:17

For Sub-Inspector K Prasad, Ashok Chakra.

I feel a different emotion.

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http://www.rediff.com/news/report/defence-news-andhra-cop-who-died-fighting-naxals-honoured-with-ahsok-chakra/20140126.htm

Too many names in this report hence posting in full.

A sub-inspector of the Andhra Pradesh's counter-Maoist force was posthumously awarded the Ashok Chakra, the highest peacetime gallantry award of the country, as India celebrated its 65th Republic Day on Sunday.

Sub-Inspector K Prasad Babu was honoured for an anti-Naxal operation during which he had led an assault unit of Greyhounds (anti-Naxal force of Andhra Pradesh) near Andhra-Chhattisgarh border on April 16 last year.

The award was received by Babu's father from President Pranab Mukherjee before the commencement of the Republic Day parade at Rajpath in New Delhi.

"Shri Prasad Babu exhibited most conspicuous gallantry, exceptional devotion to duty and exemplary leadership in fighting the Maoists and made the supreme sacrifice," a government statement said.

Babu played a key role in killing nine Maoists and injuring several others.

On April 16 last year, about 70 Maoists carried out IED blasts near the Andhra-Chhattisgarh border and fired indiscriminately on the Greyhounds unit led by Babu. He and his unit charged towards the Maoists, killing nine of them.

The next day, the commandos were being evacuated by helicopters. When, 19 commandos were to be picked up for the last sortie of evacuation, about 60-70 Maoists attacked the helicopter.

While 14 commandos boarded the helicopter, four along with Babu began retaliatory firing, according to the statement.

After the helicopter left, the Maoists began encircling the commandos. Babu then urged the four other commandos to retreat to a direction while holding the nearly 200 Maoists single-handedly until the others reached a safe spot. He died in the process, it said.

Accepting the award, Babu's emotionally overwhelmed father acknowledged the crowd with folded hands. After stepping down the dais, he greeted distinguished military officers present in the seating area.

CRPF commando gets first 'Kirti Chakra'

B N Choudhary, commando of the Central Reserve Police Force's specialised anti-Naxal team CoBRA (Commando Battalion for Resolute Action), is the lone recipient of the 'Kirti Chakra' for displaying "extraordinary courage" in combating a Maoist squad in the Chakrabandha forests of Bihar.

Despite sustaining severe injuries to his legs, the commando courageously fired continuous volleys of bullets to save his colleagues, which earned him the distinction of being the first and only recipient from CRPF of this military medal.

The 'Kirti Chakra' is given to honour the valour of armed forces personnel.

The gallant commando of the elite guerrilla trained Commando Battalion for Resolute Action had saved the lives of the entire squad in the Maoist hotbed of Gaya and Aurangabad in Bihar in September 2012. He also ensured that Maoists were not able to snatch the weapons of the force personnel.

Bhrigu Nandan Choudhary had received bullet injuries on his legs but that did not deter him from "crawling under excruciating pain" and helping his fellow trooper Daleep Singh change the magazine of his weapon which had slipped out of his hands because of the impact of a blast, his citation said.

The dare devil constable of the country's leading anti-Naxal operations force shares the second highest peacetime gallantry medal posthumously with D Castelino, the Indian Air Force pilot who flew the ill-fated Mi-17 sortie to Kedarnath during the last year's rain tragedy in Uttarakhand.

The CRPF has bagged the lions share of 15 bravery medals amongst police and paramilitary forces, out of which, seven troopers have been awarded posthumously for their daredevilry in anti-Naxal operations and insurgency offensives.

Two other CRPF constables Ugrasen Tripathi and Ali Hassan jeopardised their personal safety in the line of duty when they were securing a polling booth during Assembly polls in Manipur in 2012.

A hardcore militant of the NSCN-IM attacked the polling booth in Tempi in Chandel district of the state but both the daredevils confronted him fearlessly as the ultra was attempting to kill officials on poll duty.

While Tripathi has been decorated with President's police medal for gallantry posthumously, Hassan has been awarded the police medal for gallantry and is serving in the force in the same area.

CoBRA trooper Santosh Kumar Singh laid down his life while combating Naxals in the Saranda forests of Jharkhand in 2011 as he lunged on a machine gun being operated by a Naxalite as he lost his life in the process after taking severe bullet injuries.


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