Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 Jan 2014 08:29

Suraj wrote:You misunderstand. I personally have no problem calling them all Indic; it is they who'd respond negatively to the association and would not associate politically with the BJP. That does not apply to those like the older Orthodox Christian folks who happily associate with the native folks without any effort to denigrate the faith or culture of the people who welcomed them here, and on the same token would readily be not just BJP but Modi supporters if he gave them the very reasonable and mutually beneficial support they seek. See Avarachan's post in the Stateswide elections thread. I'm sure he can also mention more about their attitude towards non-Christians compared to that of the older Orthodox types.

Which Church was it that defended clemency to Italian sailors?

VikramS · Post by **VikramS** » 27 Jan 2014 08:32

https://twitter.com/buzzindelhi/status/ ... 1068248064

Have been pinging @buzzindelhi about the CC issue.

Does someone have an alternative gateway in mind?

niran · Post by **niran** » 27 Jan 2014 08:39

ManjaM wrote:Contribution to donate.bjp.org is not going through. Tried a couple of different cards. Any ideas? The 011 4800 5757 number, is it an India number?

the card need to issued by Indians Banks to go through, yen are eyes, moolah however well meaning is haram. and ye do not vote
so no can donate.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Jan 2014 08:45

niran, Tell us about Bihar and Patna in particular.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 27 Jan 2014 08:53

Muppalla wrote:Which Church was it that defended clemency to Italian sailors?

Roman Catholic, of course. Specifically, a newly ordained Cardinal returning from Rome.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 Jan 2014 09:11

Thanks Suraj.

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 27 Jan 2014 09:22

niran wrote:
ManjaM wrote:Contribution to donate.bjp.org is not going through. Tried a couple of different cards. Any ideas? The 011 4800 5757 number, is it an India number?
the card need to issued by Indians Banks to go through, yen are eyes, moolah however well meaning is haram. and ye do not vote
so no can donate.

NRIs (Indian citizens) certainly can donate irrespective of whether they are registered voters or not. The donation page requires you to upload a scan of your Indian passport (details page) and to check a box confirming the declaration below:

I declare that I am an Indian Citizen with a valid Indian passport and I am making this contribution to the BJP out of my free will, from income legally earned/owned by me. The details that I have provided above are true and nothing has been misrepresented.

KL

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 27 Jan 2014 10:45

Modi factor propels the rise of BJP, RSS in West Bengal

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/modi-factor- ... 37-64.html

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 27 Jan 2014 10:58

gandharva wrote:Modi factor propels the rise of BJP, RSS in West Bengal

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/modi-factor- ... 37-64.html

Heartening.... regarding the allegation that it is indeed the former left cadre who are now looking for avenues outside and are finding solace in the BJP, I certainly and deeply hope this is indeed the case.... a ghar vaapasi of a different sort, lessay.

IIRC, Bji had predicted that it doesn't take long for red to fade into a saffron shade.... and that both WB and KL are ripening for that eventuality..... kudos.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 27 Jan 2014 12:16

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Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 27 Jan 2014 12:40

Lotus Purush to Lota Purush to Lol Purush

Keep your bachi kuchi izzath and retire sir

niran · Post by **niran** » 27 Jan 2014 12:42

ramana wrote:niran, Tell us about Bihar and Patna in particular.

word is laloo paswan and few others will contest as predeclared allies of UPA
JDU outside support i.e. make it a two way contest and make it look like three
way, an old queen bee trick but most parties and even some in bhajapa discounts
the wave, all in all the count for purvanchal (37) and Bihar currently stands at 58
according to the internal tally.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Jan 2014 13:15

Suraj wrote:
Muppalla wrote:Which Church was it that defended clemency to Italian sailors?
Roman Catholic, of course. Specifically, a newly ordained Cardinal returning from Rome.

The written "blood money" agreement that the eyetalians quickly and slyly got signed (with the active connivance of the Indian clergy) with the bereaved families of the fishermen was made "in the name of christ" before the Indian Supreme court forcefully intervened. The compromised kerala congis were all actively pushing the eyetalian case for out of court settlement.

The whole issue was sought to be portrayed solely as a private matter between the eyetalians and the fishermen families, which further, had the "blessings" of the church and as such the ~~murders~~ errr minor incident, was "settled" to the satisfaction of all "concerned". The locus standi of the Union of India was simply brushed aside as the eyetalian government dealt directly with the families through the church. The influence of a certain aunty in Delhi was vastly overestimated and taken for granted as much as the power of electoral politics was tactically under estimated.

It may take a BJP government to settle the matter without any blowback.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 27 Jan 2014 13:23

Supratik wrote:What a coincidence!!! I was thinking the same. The areas where the BJP is strong are areas of the Maratha empire, Rajput states and Sikh empire.

Conquest by Marathas meant complete dismantling of qazi-mullah structure from all villages, followed by decimation of economic power-centers which financed Mughal power and rise if hindu merchants to finance the maratha mil-ind complex. Thereafter the phase of temple reconstruction and then go-brahmanapratipaalana and allowing dharma to take root over next decades. Bengal got only the raw deal of this and in spite of that on that bengal which was ravaged by Marathas managed to stay in India - because hindu response in west bengal was much more organized and mughal era strong and local qazi-mullah base ran away. Even though for different reasons, same goes with Punjab - only estern Punjb which saw some stable maratha rule stayed in India. Odisha , then part of bengal got best deal and prospered later under bhonsale of nagpur. Indo-gangetic plains and Hyd remains their unfinished work

The key to maratha success was hindus abandoning the NFU policy nd resorting to FUwP (first use with prejudice) policy. This "was" the reason why RSS was established but post Godse, they were forced to gulp down "no use" gandhian policy which they have managed tonegotiate and convert into NFU in some situations.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 27 Jan 2014 13:30

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SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 27 Jan 2014 13:38

Hari Seldon wrote:^ Yes, its a mumbai number. Anyone tried reaching lotus via tried email, by any chance?

It's a Delhi number.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 27 Jan 2014 13:47

SaiK wrote:yup.. +108 to modi and -108 to bjp as a party

because of this -108 feeling is what drives party like AAP. if they don't understand this after Modi, then even the modi factor will diminish on a slight shake of economy and governance phuck up.

it will be all DIENASTY REDUX! and with no point of return even in the milky way.

i'd say, throw away existing fatso in bjp, and create 100s of modilets, as core party dynamic models - modi's first job if he wins, and should he thinks about his party.

ask not what the party has done to you
ask what you have done to the party

The existing Fatso brings most funds into BJP. Without him BJP would never be able to compete with the Congress money muscle which happens to be Sharad Pawar and increasingly YSRC.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 27 Jan 2014 13:56

Share your idea of nation-building with 'Mere Sapno Ka Bharat'

http://www.india272.com/meresapnokabharat/

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 27 Jan 2014 16:08

Hari Seldon wrote:^ Yes, its a mumbai number. Anyone tried reaching lotus via tried email, by any chance?

011 is Delhi area code.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 27 Jan 2014 16:40

^^Yeah... my bad. I got it mixed up with 022...

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 27 Jan 2014 17:08

16:38 Union ministers plan life after 2014 L polls: A correspondent from Delhi reports: Four senior Union ministers plan to go back to practising law after the 2014 Lok Sabha polls.

Others will take up party work seriously.

Many of them may turn into regular columnists for weekly magazines. Few of them will prefer to participate in debates on news channels.

Others, who have witnessed a controversial political innings, would prefer to spend their summer vacation in European countries.

http://news.rediff.com/commentary/2014/ ... pdates.htm

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 27 Jan 2014 17:14

For those in India facing problem with Net Banking (as I did) I think the following would work well.

Cheque Favouring : Bharatiya Janata Party
Courier to : Bharatiya Janata Party, BJP Central Office, Room No. 60, 11 Ashoka Road, New Delhi-110001 India

Got this from their helpline executive at 011 4800 5757.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 27 Jan 2014 17:28

make sure to have a copy of the cheque and send through registered post

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 27 Jan 2014 17:59

Good info Ravi G

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 27 Jan 2014 18:56

In the end comes a caption "Hasiba Ameen", she also introduces herself as Hasiba Ameen in the end.

So Dienasty is ready to just ride on muslim votes.

archan · Post by **archan** » 27 Jan 2014 19:05

BJP doesn't seem to be spending on counter ads. Shortage of funds?

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 27 Jan 2014 19:31

archan wrote:BJP doesn't seem to be spending on counter ads. Shortage of funds?

Here's how they're deploying their funds, seems like...

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/west ... 40178.html

The West Bengal unit of the Bharatiya Janata Party on Monday brought in yet another stunner before the public by selling vegetables to the common masses at 'prices during Vajpayee government's tenure'. The BJP's innovative poll campaign comes just days after it sold tea at stalls at the Howrah station named after its PM candidate Narendra Modi.

The party is undertaking such unique programmes to not only rev up support for Modi but to also spread the word for his grand rally scheduled at Kolkata's brigade parade ground on February 5.

State BJP president Rahul Sinha and his associates gathered in central Kolkata on Monday and sold vegetables to curious onlookers at Esplanade junction.

BJP claims it wants to bring back the 'golden days' of Atal Bihari Vajpayee's tenure and lower the prices of all commodities. And to embark on that, BJP pitched its campaign to sell vegetables across West Bengal at a rate which was seen during Vajpayee's tenure to highlight the rise in inflation during the UPA regime.

Clever. Gets the point across to both the middle class and the poor. hey wanna expand he program across WB districts. More power to them.

member_23658 · Post by **member_23658** » 27 Jan 2014 19:55

yuvraj's first political interview, much hyped by times now with the one and only Ornab, is to start in an hour. Should be interesting unless ofcourse its all pre-arranged and scripted.

anmol · Post by **anmol** » 27 Jan 2014 20:20

rvishwak · Post by **rvishwak** » 27 Jan 2014 20:28

weird timing....

Namo addressing > 1 lac people in mumbai on the occasion of completion of 51 years of 'aey mere watan ke logon..'

dhruvM · Post by **dhruvM** » 27 Jan 2014 20:33

Arnab frying Pappu live

http://live.indiatimes.com/

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 27 Jan 2014 20:57

I gave 20 minutes of my life watching this shifty eyed, dadi ka pota who has mugged up the rants like '84 is better than 2002' and 'RTI is the new Rs. 2 kg rice'.

I gave these 20 precious minutes, minutes I could have saved a life, probably a country hell world peace itself. I did that because of the secular people all around me. You people owe me an old monk large peg. To hell with world peace, I got drained of my old monk watching this silly white pasty manicured imbecile.

The man is against the system. He really said something along the lines. He is an idiot. Does he even realize he is the system. He and his family.

Hey but there is one good thing about him. I think I see a Rajesh Khanna like mannerism in him.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 27 Jan 2014 21:00

Stolen tweets ‏@Datoism 3m

Rahulji should stop talking, start acting like MMS. Concentrate on his looks, workout a six pack, that may give him more votes than talks.

abhik · Post by **abhik** » 27 Jan 2014 21:01

dhruvM wrote:Arnab frying Pappu live

http://live.indiatimes.com/

That was so pathetic, I actually feel sad for him.

member_23658 · Post by **member_23658** » 27 Jan 2014 21:02

apparently he called Ashok Chavan as Ashok Kumar

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 27 Jan 2014 21:04

i think SG might have got heart attack or she might not have watched it knowing what this guy is capable of

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 27 Jan 2014 21:05

NaMo must be grinning after this interview

rajithn · Post by **rajithn** » 27 Jan 2014 21:08

For the last many minutes, he has the same answer to multiple questions. LOL. Ask him anything and he keeps parroting that we have to change the system and bring in youngsters into politics and how power is concentrated with a few people. What an imbecile!

rvishwak · Post by **rvishwak** » 27 Jan 2014 21:09

no direct answers so far....will get the world record for using the word "empowerment"......

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 27 Jan 2014 21:09

rajithn wrote:For the last many minutes, he has the same answer to multiple questions. LOL. Ask him anything and he keeps parroting that we have to change the system and bring in youngsters into politics and how power is concentrated with a few people. What an imbecile!

He has come to the end of his notes prepared by Jairam Ramesh. So he is just repeating the last lines in his notes. Nothing more to it.