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NC may be trying to align to scuttle any move on Art370. Should be considered only if support is absolutely required.
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Parties such as NCP / SP/ BSP/ NC and their counterparts accross the nation ought to be targeted for destruction. With the constituents becoming part of one or the other national party. I mean what is it they bring on the table for the state. Is it performance or it is a vehicle for the propagation of the ambition s of the specific leaders.

They all wear the cloak of invisibility and support the inc at the national level. While looting the sates they claim to represent.
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might be astute move to guarantee/safeconduct their survival in a potential post-congi political space in india. as in 'we were part of the chengis khan camp but only in his baggage train, we had no hand in the massacres in persia' ...kind of positioning as the good taliban vs the hardcore talibs.

as BJP is not expected to get 272 on their own, they need some partners to complete the picture. between them JJ and Didi will control nearly 50-60 MPs and are the big prizes.

NC is of no real use other than target for a hammering with HWT salvo. NCP could be useful if they deliver somethings but again not a big player in the overall scheme.

for too long the NC dynasty and its bag carriers have looted the state. move must be made to bring the politics of separatism to an end and end the "we are different" tamasha once and for all. J&K needs to be made a normal state, warts and all.
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Praful Patel piloted AirIndia's financial crash. COurting Modi is an attempt at anticipatory bail.
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dont know names involved, but a tea seller i know in dilli was saying several top players were paid by the seat when the great selloff of the aviation sector to gulf airlines took place under UPA watch...as in granting lots of flights to the gulf airlines while AI continued to be run efficiently into the ground via its union culture.
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kmkraoind wrote:@firstpostin - NCP's Praful Patel says allegations of Modi's involvement in 2002 riots should be laid to rest | CNN-IBN
‏@timesnow - Narendra Modi finds unlikely support in NCP, Praful Patel says the matter surrounding Modi must rest after SIT's clean chit in Gujarat riots.

Wow, today NaMo got two positives. But I am not sure NCP is good or bad for BJP. If we think, NCP is a collaborator of Congi system, then NaMo should thread cautiously. If we think, NCP is just taking shield under Cong for its survival, then we can cleanse them.
Just seat sharing negotiation tactics with congrez; just like raj thackrey said NaMo should resign CMship first to fight election for the PM.
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panduranghari wrote:According to Kool Karney Raga's heart is in the right place and his mind will develop with experience.

How can he vouch for these 2 things? And why even after this man - Kool Karney has been thoroughly discredited here, he finds traction to influence valuable bandwidth on BRF?
In the light of following news item, if BJP <180 and LKA becomes PM Kool Karney will be back in his role of adviser. Remember, he went to jail for his boss LKA.
Veteran BJP leader L K Advani rubbishes Rajya Sabha reports, says Lok Sabha polls are on his mind

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/lal- ... 39936.html
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parties liked NCP / SP/ BSP/ NC should be targeted for destruction.
Hmm. Lets play it like the INC plays it. For good or for bad or perhaps because it is an implant on Indian's political system INC has far greater experience playing politics in this country than the rest. If INC were to be in BJP's shoes it would keep these parties in liquid oxygen. As nature abhors a vacuum removal of these parties would open the ground to parties like AAP, which are direct proxies for foreign agents. Also keeping these parties alive serves another purpose. They direct anti BJP votes to these parties and splits the INC vote. If BJP has to be the system then it has to think like the system. The above statement is a reflection of the siege mentality of BJP supporters.
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Karnataka: The confusion of alter-narrative

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^^^^
Of these 28 LS seats, 9 are in the vulnerable category – 3 in the “close contest range” and 6 in the “very close contest range”. Of the 9 vulnerable LS seats, Congress is ahead in 5, BJP in 3 and JDS in 1. Since the fence sitters decide who will win these 9 vulnerable seats, we can term the ranges as follows – Congress (9 to 18), BJP (9 to 18) and JDS (1 to 4). Thus both BJP and Congress are unlikely to win less than 9 seats and more than 18 seats, unless there is a major shift of votes from one party to the other, apart from the undecided voters. Once again, it is clear that the momentum is with the opposition BJP as the Congress party, which was ahead in more than 20 seats just a few months ago is declining with each passing week.
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if the congis are running the rest of state like they are running bangalore, its not pretty sight.
latest atrocity is a 300% rise in BWSSB water tariff to apartment complexes _only_ because apartment owners are rich and mostly 'outsiders' to boot. while people living in residential houses incl the rich BDA layout crowd and govt servants who got their plots at a pittance can continue to pay the old rate.

about the quality of service roads and general civil works - I invite any outsider to come sample our pleasures. benchmark against anything you want - lahore, lusaka, LA or london, I am sure we will lose :D

even life saving works like arranging for pedestrian foot bridges (cheap ones will do) at busy junctions nobody seems interested.
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gandharva wrote:There are some other fifth columnists still in BJP.

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Look at this guy. No wonder the BJP lost the last two elections. Cong sleeper agents... :lol:
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^ Ah the joys of living with Bangalorean Infrastructure.
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NaMo will get his 272, Congress will get their 72!
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kmkraoind wrote:Its big, it will demolish Secular arguments of Con. Now allies are pouring into BJP. This time voter may be voting not for the local MP, nor the party, its for Modi, its for India.

@dna 35m - #Breaking National Conference open to supporting Modi says Farooq Abdullah. Says the onus of NC-BJP alliance lies with #OmarAbdullah.
Shonu wrote: WAH!

How the circle has turned 360! This was the VERY same man (OA) who broke off alliance with NDA because of the very SAME man (NM) over 2002. I guess he is over 2002.. maybe he should speak to MSM who will remind him in very similar words to these .. NM orchestrated the whole thing and enjoyed the show while eating popcorn and viewing the whole thing on a 80inch LCD screen with surround sound! It is better OA reconsiders it now rather than halfway into BJPs new term
It would be 180 degree, not 360 degrees :mrgreen: :rotfl: (see the YT video) . But who turned 180 degrees or whether both turned 90 degrees? Because NaMo no longer says "if Godhara had not happened, there would have been no riots" , "action-reaction" and also doesnt say "hum panch hamare pachhees". NaMo no longer says Tridevelaya = RJB Devalaya, KJB Devalaya and KV Devalaya promises. Instead, NaMo says sb4d. And NaMo has also diluted stand on art-370. So who turned by how many degrees is a question to be seen.

We in India are now fully fragmented people. The paid-media we read is NOT the paid-media poor see. The paid-medua Hindus read is NOT same as paid-media Muslims read. And paid-media a typical upper caste guy reads is NOT same as paid-media dalits read.

I am sure paid-media which muslim read would project NaMo has "former RSS pracharak, now Congressi" and claim it as victory is Islamism in India. While paid-media Hindus read ignores away climbdown on UCC, art-370 and Tridevalaya issue.

Since I am NOT a BJP-voter, I would NOT advice BJP what they should form coalition with NC or not. Its their choice. But IMO the climbdown by BJP on Hinduvaadi agenda will be seen as a victory by islamists in India and it will increase their enthusiasm and dampen enthusiasm of VHP. And it is NOT a good sign for India. The Hinudvaadies better start looking for alternative and sooner the better. The alternative I propose is http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... =24&t=6646 .

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KJoishy wrote:NaMo will get his 272, Congress will get their 72!
:rotfl: well said.
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This so called "secular party" by aligning wants to accomplish a few things:

By entering the NDA they can kill it from within.

They will be in a better position to try to keep Article 370 in place so they can preserve power in the state.

They can shield themselves from Modi's purge to some degree.
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RoyG wrote:This so called "secular party" by aligning wants to accomplish a few things:

By entering the NDA they can kill it from within.

They will be in a better position to try to keep Article 370 in place so they can preserve power in the state.

They can shield themselves from Modi's purge to some degree.
Don't think that the bajpa will fall for it a second time. If approached, may keep them dangling for a while until it's too late for the polls
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Neela wrote:Praful Patel piloted AirIndia's financial crash. COurting Modi is an attempt at anticipatory bail.
I agree. You will see more of this in the next 1-2 months. These guys are realizing that they will be subjected to physical incarceration and even execution for the things they've done. As I said before, Gandhis will be out of the country and the regional leaders, media personalities, etc will be the ones taking all the heat. It's like a giant ponzi scheme. Congress is finished unless they declare emergency after letting jihadis take out Modi.
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Timesofindia.com front page is advertising statue of unity project behind mixed in with the logo :lol:
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While it is nice to go for congress mukt bhaarat, hope BJP fills vacuum created by such moves. If RaulG/BiamcaG can't hold con race together then it is also important to know who will call shots in con race and effects in say UP etc. For example in Ganga valley region if con race can't walk then BJP should make sure there is enough leadership for organization which is needed anywhere in general. Also watch out for bogus voting by say infiltrators who are there just to vote en block against BJP. BJP should also plan to counter such block voting against BJP kind of scheming which is odd in a democracy.

Also the outreach efforts need to be fine tuned - pertinent to the era of democracy. Seems historic for BJP.
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mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/india/2014/01/28/a-dynasts-flailing-makeover/

A Dynast’s Flailing Makeover
by VAIBHAV VATS, mobile.nytimes.com
January 28th 2014

NEW DELHI — In September, Rahul Gandhi, vice president of the Congress Party and scion of the Nehru-Gandhi dynasty, made an unannounced public appearance at a news conference in New Delhi. Minutes previously, Mr. Gandhi had called up Ajay Maken, the party’s general secretary, to ask him his whereabouts.

Now, as Mr. Maken was defending a controversial government ordinance that prevented convicted politicians from being removed from office Mr. Gandhi seized the microphone. “I think the ordinance is complete nonsense,” he said. “It should be torn up and thrown away.”

Mr. Gandhi’s outburst left Mr. Maken, and most senior leaders of the Congress Party, stunned. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, away in the United States to attend the United Nations General Assembly, had to face a public humiliation, hours before an important meeting with President Obama.

It is inconceivable that the ordinance, which sparked an instant backlash from the media and the public, could have been passed without Mr. Gandhi’s knowledge. Yet, once he had taken note of the public mood, Mr. Gandhi seized the moment to engineer a shift in how he was seen by the Indian electorate.

Mr. Gandhi, the ultimate insider in Indian politics, was now refashioning himself as an outside agent of change. That shift had been necessitated, in large part, by the steady and growing unpopularity of the Congress-led United Progressive Alliance government.

It is impossible to judge whether his outburst in September was an impulsive decision or a carefully calculated move. But it is clear that Mr. Gandhi increasingly feels the need to come across as accessible, articulate and decisive. His decision to subject himself to his first-ever television interview, with a popular network that aired the exchange Monday night, was a step in the same direction.

Until his remarks in September, Mr. Gandhi had sought to cultivate the image of a leader who shunned public attention and preferred to work inconspicuously behind the scenes. In 2005, during an interview to the newsmagazine Tehelka, it was put to Mr. Gandhi that he asked few questions in Parliament. “I don’t ask questions in Parliament because I like to think things through,” he had replied.

Mr. Gandhi portrayed himself as a politician unwilling to engage with the distracting minutiae of everyday politics. He was instead working on a grand design of resuscitating the Congress Party, democratizing the organization at the grass-roots and reinventing India’s oldest political party for the 21st century.

It was an impression that Mr. Gandhi cultivated for much of his early years in politics. In the raucous and frenetic world of Indian politics, Mr. Gandhi remained ensconced in a long and seemingly intense silence. For fleeting observers of Indian democracy, it may have seemed that Mr. Gandhi alone was thinking about the great, profound and significant questions of our time.

The thinking though was rarely, if ever, evident to his countrymen, to whom he remained little beyond an enigma. His thoughts on the most vexing questions of the day remained unrecorded for the electorate.

But as long as the central government enjoyed some degree of modest popularity, Mr. Gandhi could always partake some of the credit, though his own contributions to policy making and other aspects of the government remained vague and undefined.

A change in strategy became imperative once it became clear that it would be politically unwise for Mr. Gandhi, who was certain to lead the Congress Party into the next elections, to align himself too closely with a deeply unpopular government.

His own failures in reviving the fortunes of the Congress in the key states of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh also meant that a new direction was needed to ignite Mr. Gandhi’s appeal for the electorate. Mr. Gandhi would have to be remade for public consumption, and so he began the process of fashioning himself as the crusading outsider last fall.

Another factor, one outside Mr. Gandhi’s control, may have played a part too. In a country, where ideas of citizenship and egalitarian democracy are deepening, being the embodiment of dynastic and feudal privilege is a greater liability than ever before in Indian politics.

In his televised interview on Monday night, Mr. Gandhi continued to play the crusader. He did not have a hunger for power, he asserted; instead he was in politics to “change the system.”

Mr. Gandhi’s interview was, in many ways, a bumbling and bizarre performance. His depth of engagement with critical issues looked uncertain. Posed with specific questions, Mr. Gandhi repeatedly sought to seek refuge in vague, and seemingly rehearsed, generalities.

When asked his views of Narendra Modi, the opposition’s candidate for prime minister, Mr. Gandhi responded, “What Rahul Gandhi wants to do, is Rahul Gandhi and millions of youngsters in this country want to change the way the system in this country works. What Rahul Gandhi wants to do is empower the women in this country, wants to unleash the power of these women, I mean we talk about being a superpower …”

The interview also delineated the very real limits of Mr. Gandhi’s outsider act. When asked about the 1984 anti-Sikh riots, after the assassination of his grandmother, Indira Gandhi, and perpetrated under the watch of his father, Rajiv Gandhi, Mr. Gandhi sought to mount a dubious distinction between the pogrom in 1984 and the anti-Muslim riots of 2002 in Gujarat, which took place while Mr. Modi was chief minister of the state.

Contrary to established evidence by independent human rights groups that indicts both governments of active collusion, Mr. Gandhi stated, “In 1984, the government was trying to stop the riots. In 2002, the government was actively aiding and abetting the riots.”

If Mr. Gandhi had hoped to come across to undecided voters as the catalyst for change, he failed. But most alarmingly for supporters of the Congress Party, Mr. Gandhi’s interview revealed that despite a decade in politics, he had little to offer that was substantive and novel. Despite an active “rebranding” exercise, Mr. Gandhi reinforced the impression of a reluctant politician, inspired by little more than feudal obligation to carry forward the family business.

Vaibhav Vats is a writer based in New Delhi.
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How Rahul Gandhi Did in His First TV Interview
by RAKSHA KUMAR, mobile.nytimes.com
January 28th 2014

NEW DELHI — It was a highly anticipated TV event on Monday night: Rahul Gandhi, the leader of the Congress Party’s election campaign, sat down with Arnab Goswami of Times Now, the most aggressive journalist on an English-language television network in India, for the politician’s first formal TV interview.

That Mr. Gandhi chose Mr. Goswami for his first interview was surprising to many observers. “No senior leader gives a television interview very often,” said Amulya Ganguli, a political analyst. “When was the last time Sonia Gandhi gave a television interview? When was the last time Narendra Modi gave one?”

Earlier this month, the Congress Party hired the global public relations firm Burson-Marsteller, which did not respond to emailed questions about why Mr. Gandhi chose to give his first interview to Times Now. But Mr. Goswami said in an interview with Rediff.com that it was the huge viewership at Times Now that compelled Mr. Gandhi to choose the network for his interview.

So how did Mr. Gandhi hold up against Mr. Goswami’s pointed questions?

“He comes across as a thinker, with a broad Nehruvian outlook,” said Mr. Ganguli. During the interview, Mr. Gandhi said he wanted to change the system, empower women, deepen democracy, open up politics to the young and make India a world-class manufacturing hub.

But when he fumbled on the more specific questions, Mr.Ganguli said, pointing at Mr. Gandhi’s comments on the 1984 anti-Sikh riots in Delhi. Several Congress Party leaders are still on trial on charges of inciting the riots after Prime Minister Indira Gandhi was assassinated by her Sikh bodyguards.

Mr. Goswami asked whether Mr. Gandhi would take responsibility for the 1984 riots. Mr. Gandhi sought to draw a distinction between the Congress government back then and the state government in Gujarat, led by Narendra Modi of the rival Bharatiya Janata Party, in 2002, when nearly 1,000 people died in riots, most of them Muslims.

“The simple difference is that in 1984, the government was not involved in the massacre of people,” said Mr. Gandhi. “In Gujarat, it was.”

He also insisted that the Congress government in 1984 “was not aiding and abetting the riots” but had tried to stop the violence.

Observers took issue with Mr. Gandhi’s take on history. “This was factually wrong. I even tweeted it as the interview was playing out,” said Siddharth Varadarajan, political analyst and senior journalist.

Contradictions were clearly evident in Mr. Gandhi’s answers. He acknowledged that “some Congress men were probably involved in 1984 anti-Sikh riots and they have been punished for it.” But when he was asked whether he would apologize for the 1984 riots, Mr. Gandhi said, “First of all, I wasn’t involved in the riots at all. It wasn’t that I was a part of it.”

Oddly, Mr. Gandhi spoke about himself in the third person at times, like when Mr. Goswami asked him whether the Congress Party didn’t declare Mr. Gandhi as its prime ministerial candidate because it wanted to avoid pitting Mr. Gandhi directly against Mr.Modi, the Bharatiya Janata Party’s candidate, who is considered the front-runner in the national elections this spring.

“To understand that question you have to understand a little bit about who Rahul Gandhi is and what Rahul Gandhi’s circumstances have been, and if you delve into that, you will get an answer to the question of what Rahul Gandhi is scared of and what he is not scared of,” he said.

Mr. Varadarajan said it was clear that Mr. Gandhi didn’t want to characterize the national elections as personal battle.

[Video: Watch on YouTube.]

“Rahul Gandhi has never been comfortable looking at the elections in presidential terms,” said Mr.Varadarajan. “He tried to position the upcoming elections as a clash of ideas by talking about decentralization of power and opening up of the system, rather than a clash of personalities. However, that was not done very effectively. Only political analysts might have caught that. To a common man, it just seems like he was just dogging those questions.”

Mr. Gandhi’s answers were brief when it came to questions about corruption scandals that have plagued the administration of the United Progressive Alliance, the governing coalition. Asked why Congress protected the former Maharashtra Chief Minister Ashok Chavan despite a judicial commission’s indictment in a scandal involving sweetheart deals on housing for government officials, Mr. Gandhi said the party had taken action wherever corruption was involved.

On corruption charges against Himachal Pradesh’s chief minister, Virbhadra Singh, Mr. Gandhi merely said, “There is a legal process. Follow it and conclude it.”

Interestingly, when Mr. Goswami was grilling Mr. Gandhi about the big corruption scandals, he did not ask about Mr. Gandhi’s brother-in-law, Robert Vadra, who has been accused of profiting illegally from real estate deals.

“I suspect keeping Vadra out of the interview would be one of the ground rules that Mr. Gandhi would have made himself available for the interview,” said Mr. Varadarajan.

Mr. Gandhi blamed corruption on “the system,” which he said had to change in order to remold India’s politics. But, as Mr. Varadarajan pointed out, it was the Gandhi family members who were responsible to a great degree in creating the political systems in India.

In fact, systemic change and the empowerment of women were his answers to most of the tough questions, added Mr. Varadarajan. For example, to one of Mr. Goswami’s questions about the rising inflation in India, Mr. Gandhi’s answer began with, “I think women are a backbone of the nation. They need to be empowered.”

More than once during the interview, Mr. Gandhi gave the Congress party credit for introducing the Lokpal and other anticorruption bills in the Parliament. However, he did not mention that the party had initially resisted passing the bills, only doing so after huge public protests led by Anna Hazare and his followers.

He also avoided directly answering questions about whether political parties should be brought under the purview of Right to Information Act, saying instead that Parliament should decide if there is a consensus on the issue. But, he said, “my position is that the more openness, the better.”

During the interview, the fiery orator seen at the Congress Party’s national meeting earlier this month was nowhere to be found. Instead, Mr. Gandhi maintained his usual placid demeanor even during the most contentious parts of the conversation.

“He comes across as a sincere, well-meaning guy,” Mr. Varadarajan said, “but not quite up to the mark.”

Raksha Kumar is a freelance journalist based in Bangalore.
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RoyG wrote:Timesofindia.com front page is advertising statue of unity project behind mixed in with the logo :lol:
i was telling same to others, in our words 'dhoti shivering'
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RoyG wrote:
gandharva wrote:There are some other fifth columnists still in BJP.

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Look at this guy. No wonder the BJP lost the last two elections. Cong sleeper agents... :lol:
Guy must be in an alternate universe. Its Arnab who should ask the questions and Rahul answer them!!!
Does this moron think it was vice versa?
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Oul deal fliend Sid weighs in. Poor guy must be missing the editorial space in hundi.
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anmol, The technique that Amulbaba used in his interview is fogging. Repeat the same answers regardless of the question.

Sonia should fiore that japanese ad company that was hired for image makeover. Before the interview one suspected he could be a dud. After the interview it is confirmed.
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If someone were to hear the phrase "It is better to be silent and be thought of as a fool , than to open it and confirm it" now, they would think it was coined after hearing shehzada speak :D
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Meerut tense after acid attack on 4 schoolgirls
Purusharth Aradhak,TNN | Jan 27, 2014, 12.16 AM IST

MEERUT: Four students of a college in Meerut had a miraculous escape after some miscreants threw acid on them with a syringe.

Police have lodged an FIR against the troublemakers and heavy police force has been deployed but are yet to nab them.

According to Sarurpur police, the incident occurred on Saturday when three boys threw acid at four girls on their way to Kisan Inter College. An alarm was raised for help and locals chased the boys who managed to escape.

"We were going to college using the main road. Three locals - Gulzar, Saif Ali Khan and another man - came out of the sugarcane field and threw acid on us using a syringe," one of the victims told the police. She added that the accused threatened people who attempted to catch them.

Fearfully, the girls reached their college and narrated the incident to the college authorities and their family members who took to the streets, disrupting traffic on the Meerut-Karnal Road to demand the immediate arrest of the accused. To quell the flare-up, heavy police force was dispatched to the scene to avoid any communal tension.
And that too just before Modi's rally in Meerut.
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Grandparents will be attending Meerut Rally. It's supposed to be a big one. Rebellion against British began from area which is now a temple. Energy is quite high.
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Guys I hope this does not have a larger plan. Please Lord, keep Modi safe.
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At 86, should Advani contest Lok Sabha elections?

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Army will probably mobilize a few units to keep the greens at bay. Have a feeling they will try to start trouble. SP plays these tricks. This will be a game changer IMO. 1857 rebellion started in Meerut against British rule. We are now again experiencing a rebellion against the same Victorian values and foreign elements which have shackled the country. If he can hit a home run in Meerut, UP voteshare will go up significantly. The air is quite charged.
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gandharva wrote:At 86, should Advani contest Lok Sabha elections?

http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/448697/the ... tions.html
This isn't even worth posting... :lol:
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at 81 mms is thinking of getting relected and rue us all for another 5 years.. why not lkji?
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BJP isn't Congress, well at least now it isn't. Modi is the dominant player, not the geezer.
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I don't think Rahul is a crook, I think he means well. But he just does not seem to have the drive to come up the hard way and is happy to have things handed to him. His whole thrust in the interview was make me PM and I will change the system. He has no track record to fall back on. He should have become some sort of Minister in the MMS Govt and displayed his capabilities. That was crucial, people can say he hasn't run anything. Modi has run a whole state for 13 years and has a wealth of experience in difficult conditions. I think that Rahul was put in the situation of having to defend the indefensible as some here said. Even NaMo cannot defend a record of scams of decay. The only way out is to talk about the future and sell that vision, which is what Rahul tried to do but it came out very poorly.

If Rahul wanted to be a breath of fresh air, he should have wholeheartedly apologized for the 1984 riots while saying that he was 13 and wasn't personally involved. He should openly own up that the Congress regime under MMS has had a lot of scams and is neck deep in corruption. People like honesty and I got the feeling that Rahul knows all of this, but has been ordered not to confess. He isn't a good liar and that was very evident.

Xposting here.
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^ if Rahul had apologised, it would have caused a domino effect which would have lead to outcomes that Maino clan has not thought about yet. It's like gangrene, unless the family is thrown under the bus, it will kill you. He had no choice but to keep fogging.
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Modimatics: Minimum 240, target 300

http://www.sunday-guardian.com/investig ... target-300
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KJoishy wrote:NaMo will get his 272, Congress will get their 72!
Epic! You should tweet it
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Most likely 36 per PoliticsParty!!!
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