Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 29 Jan 2014 18:42

A.G. Noorani belongs to a class of so-called thinkers/writers who thrive through pervert ~~intellectualism~~Islamism which is promoted by chindu

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 29 Jan 2014 19:02

Anindya wrote:SS - wikipedia claims that Huma Abedin's mother is Pakistani.

Anindya, frm the link that you have given two things stand out: one, demand for imposition of Shariah Law in Egypt and removal of ban on female genital mutilation. Both are very specific to Egypt (though the latter practice may be found in some sub-Saharan African countries too). This makes me suspect that she has an Egyptian connection, but from the photo she looks more South Asian

It would be interesting to find out about her lineage or marriage.

PS: How is Hillary associating herself with a woman who favours female genital mutilation ? May be this should go into the 'Positive US News' thread.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 29 Jan 2014 19:21

Suicide blast, two cracker attacks target Rangers in Karachi

KARACHI : Three people were killed and at least 11 others injured in triple blasts in the Nazimabad area of Karachi, Express News reported on Wednesday.

Cheers

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 29 Jan 2014 19:26

SSridhar wrote:
Anindya wrote:SS - wikipedia claims that Huma Abedin's mother is Pakistani.
Anindya, frm the link that you have given two things stand out: one, demand for imposition of Shariah Law in Egypt and removal of ban on female genital mutilation. Both are very specific to Egypt (though the latter practice may be found in some sub-Saharan African countries too). This makes me suspect that she has an Egyptian connection, but from the photo she looks more South Asian It would be interesting to find out about her lineage or marriage.

PS: How is Hillary associating herself with a woman who favours female genital mutilation ? May be this should go into the 'Positive US News' thread.

SSridhar Ji :

Her father, Syed Zainul Abedin, born in India in 1928, was an alumnus of Aligarh Muslim University and her mother is Pakistani.

Cheers

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 29 Jan 2014 19:27

SS - from the discover the networks data - my sense is that the family is deeply Islamist (thanks primarily to the mother's influence).

Huma Abedin - discover the networks

Saleha Abedin (Huma's mother) - discover the networks

Hassan Abedin (Huma's brother) - discover the networks

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 29 Jan 2014 19:30

Hundreds of corpses excavated from mass graves in Indian Occupied Kashmir. This is the clearest vindication of the brutality of Indian security forces, mass murder as an official policy deployed by the Indian state and the repression that has led to inhuman conditions in the disputed territory.

What's that you said? It was in Balochistan? My bad, my bad.

http://www.humanrights.asia/news/ahrc-n ... M-023-2014

The Asian Human Rights Commission (AHRC) expresses shock and deep concern over the discovery of mass graves in Balochistan; it is suspected that these graves are of Baloch missing persons who were arrested and subsequently extrajudicially killed....

All I can add is that Muslims cannot kill Muslims.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 29 Jan 2014 19:31

Guys, one observation on the US TSP BS going on. Leaving aside the usual TSP obsession with India (and I might add US obsession with equal equal using a different a set of words and strategy), there is an undercurrent of sympathy in US for TSP by the cold warriors and "American exceptionalist" neo-colonialists. And this sympathy arises from the Afghan war during Soviet era.

It is true that USA used TSP like a condom during that era, TSP of course was a willing collaborator, as always thinking that it would benefit its India strategy, but then, after the transaction, USA left. TSP thought it gained a lot, guns, lots of pigLeTs to hit India. Indeed, TSP did hit India (and continues to do so). But when it dawned that the whole exercise actually hurt TSP big time, and was further exacerbated post 9/11, bringing no great dividends except status quoist equal equal which benefits US but not enough from TSP's PoV to conquer India, TSP started this whine, "oh we were allies in defeating the Soviets, and then you abandoned us". "Not only that, the Indians who were allied with the Soviets are now your preferred choice". This narrative finds a lot of sympathy among a large section of US empire's white boy power structure. It seeks to elevate the equal equal to a a level where TSP >= India through harnessing of US power (economic, military, political, & diplomatic)

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 29 Jan 2014 19:32

Peregrine - what I could not find and understand is the depth of the Egyptian connection. Is it through Jordan or her work in Saudi Arabia?

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 29 Jan 2014 19:50

Strange still is how mass graves in Balochistan is an issue that is ignored by those claiming to be vocal about human rights in international domain. That even UN isn't sending fact finding committees is shocking.
The dysfunctional paki state seems to have enough resources to suppress any efforts on this - killing even after arresting relatives.

who is leading the historical long march for the recovery of missing persons, Jalil Reki and another, Sana Sangat were brought to Khuzdar after arrest and killed after some days.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 29 Jan 2014 19:59

Anindya wrote:Peregrine - what I could not find and understand is the depth of the Egyptian connection. Is it through Jordan or her work in Saudi Arabia?

Anindya, from one of my earlier posts here,

In c. 1948, the expelled Muslim Brotherhood leader from Egypt, Said Ramadan (d. 1995), came to Pakistan where he was received warmly. Ramadan was no ordinary man. He was one of the instruments of the CIA in its anti-communist operations. In c. 1953 he met US Pres. Eisnhower in the White House. He was part of a group of Islamist leaders from the Middle East who somehow 'happened' to be in the US at the same time. Later, this group met at Princeton to formulate a 'Renaissance Movement within Islam itself". One can clearly see that the US policy of using 'political Islam' gos a long way back. Not for nothing, all Islamist jihadists of today have come from Muslim Brotherhood, whether in Pakistan or Egypt itself (Islamic Jihad to which Zawahiri belonged. The relationship between Islamic Jihad and MB is like that between LeT and Jamaat-ud-Dawah, JuD in Pakistan. There are other similar groups in Egypt) or Al Qaeda itself (the mentor of Osama bin laden was Abdullah Azzam, an MB member. He also mentored LeT's Hafiz Saeed and the two ran together 'Maktab al Khidmat' in Peshawar to cater to 'Arab Afghan mujahideen') or Hizb-ut-Tahrir (whose parent organization was Islamic Liberation Party in Palestine/Jordan). MB was also said to have mentored Ayatollah Khomeini. Certainly, Said Ramadan had a deep personal relationship with the Ayatollah. Of course, MB was the hand maiden of the US and British interests in weakening Col. Nasser in Egypt. It is also no wonder that 9/11 had connections with Germany because Said Ramadan was given asylum in West Germany after MB was banned following assassination attempts on Nasser. The US, now in a grand alliance with the King of Saudi Arabia, allowed the fleeing MB fellows to settle down in that country.

Said Ramadan, who was also the son-in-law of Muslim Brotherhood founder Mohammed al Banna, stayed in Pakistan for a year. It was Said Ramadan who helped Maulana Abu ala al Mawdudi to set up the radical IJT student wing of his Jama’at-e-Islami. He also helped the convening of the Motamar (Motamar Al- Alam Al-Islami) conference in Karachi in c. 1951. The Motamar, or World Muslim Congress, was the only pan-Islamist world body. In c. 1962, Said Ramadan set up the Muslim World League to spread wahhabism.

In 1960, a diplomatic row erupted between Egypt and Pakistan upon the visit of a prominent Muslim Brotherhood ideologue visiting the Jama’at-e-Islami’s headquarters in Lahore on a mission to integrate extremism into mainstream national politics. By early 80s, Sheikh Abdullah Azzam, a Muslim Brotherhood activist of Palestenian origin and the mentor of Osama Bin Laden from his Jeddah days, had established his presence in Peshawar. Initially, Azzam was appointed a lecturer at the International Islamic University in Islamabad, which is today a hot-bed for jihadi terror. Mullah Krekar (Faraj Ahmed Najmuddin), the Iraqi Kurd linked with Al-Qaeda was also Sheikh Azzam’s student in Pakistan

Peregrine ji, thanks for the info.

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 29 Jan 2014 20:16

SS - that helps. My concern is that Huma will get a very senior role in the next Clinton administration (if it comes to pass) - possibly chief of staff.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 29 Jan 2014 21:16

NIA nails Pakistan in court for pushing fake currency into India

NEW DELHI : In first case where Pakistan's involvement in printing of fake Indian currency notes (FICN) has been nailed by forensic evidence, an NIA special court on Wednesday convicted all six accused. It is also the first FICN case to be registered under Unlawful Activities Prevention Act (UAPA) making such printing and distribution a terror activity.

NIA had produced evidence through RBI experts and forensic tests by Security Printing and Minting Corporation of India Limited (SPMCIL) to show that FICN features, paper quality and printing quality matches exactly to Pakistan currency and thus could only have been printed by Pakistan government press.

Cheers

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 29 Jan 2014 21:31

Pakistan Sikh Gurdwara Committee chief spews venom against India

A controversial video has appeared on social networking site Facebook showing Pakistan Sikh Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (PSGPC) president Sham Singh patting the back of Kashmiri separatists and stating that PSGPC has always been extending warm welcome to Kashmiri Sikhs.

"Muslims of Kashmir may or may not vote for Pakistan but Kashmiri Sikhs will first vote for Pakistan, we have worked hard for past 11 years , ever since the formation of PSGPC," said Sham Singh in the video that has gone viral on the net. Sham Singh whose credentials of being a Sikh have always been questioned has been shown addressing a meeting.

In the video, he has said that Pakistan High Commission in India had cancelled visa of 500 Kashmiri Sikhs who wanted to visit Pakistan on the occasion of birth anniversary of Guru Nanak Dev, Sikh's first master. He said there have been talks of giving Most Favoured Nation status to India by Pakistan. "Because of this reason Kashmiri Sikhs had been denied visa," he said.

The controversial president of PSGPC has also asked the Pakistan government to stop importing chicken feed from India claiming that it has traces of pork.

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 29 Jan 2014 21:35

^^^^ what an idiot, few days back one Sikh was killed for refusing to pay Jizya. why doesn't he have ball$ to fight for sikhs in Pak first?

arun · Post by **arun** » 29 Jan 2014 21:45

Ayesha Siddiqa in Al Jazeera on the logical denouement of the path some converts to Mohammaddenism chose when they brainwashed themselves with Mohammadden exclusivist ideas and partitioned themselves from Mother India to form the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

Pakistan's march to theocracy

arun · Post by **arun** » 29 Jan 2014 21:47

X Posted from the "Oppression of Minorities in Pakistan Thread".

Wire service The Associated Press on the obnoxious Mohammadden religion inspired blasphemy law prevalent in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and its use to oppress minority Mohammadden sects and Non-Mohammaddens:

Blasphemy law used against minorities in Pakistan

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 29 Jan 2014 21:57

>>My concern is that Huma will get a very senior role in the next Clinton administration

Unlikely that Hillary will ever be president, but even if she does there is no chance that Huma Abedin will become Chief of Staff.

IMO.

Joseph · Post by **Joseph** » 29 Jan 2014 22:01

I realize that we are getting off topic for this thread, but wanted to add this...

U.N.-arranged woman’s conference in Beijing (1995)

According to Dr. Saleha Mahmoud, director of the Institute
of Muslim Minority Affairs, the document is "a small,
dominant platform written for minority women by minority
women." She described the proposal as "inadequate and
irrelevant to the vast majority of women and men in the
contemporary world who subscribe to a faith, and who
directly or indirectly derive strength from their
spirituality."

Mahmoud will attend the Beijing Conference as a delegate of
the Muslim World League and member of the Muslim Women's NGO
caucus. She recommended that a phrase -- "within the context
of and with full and due respect for the various religious
and cultural values of different communities" -- be added to
the document.

"Approximately one fourth of the world's population -- that
is about 1.5 billion people -- subscribe to Islam," Mahmoud
said. She reported that Muslim minority communities are
found in all of the other 145 United Nations member
countries and that some of these communities are substantial
in size "such as the 120 million-strong Muslim minority
community in India and the as-yet undetermined but rather
large Muslim minority community in China."

According to Mahmoud, the goal of "empowerment for women," a
chief objective of the conference, is "necessarily
belligerent." Quoting a letter by Dr. Ahmad Muhammad Ali,
Secretary General of the Muslim World League, she explained
that "empowerment" was essentially a backlash "that will
only perpetuate the conflict, not resolve it."

arun · Post by **arun** » 29 Jan 2014 22:02

X Posted from the "Oppression of Minorities in Pakistan Thread".

arun wrote:On Monday a Shia Mohammadden Cleric was gunned down in Peshawar:

Shia scholar gunned down in Peshawar: police

A week on, Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden religion inspired violence sees a Cleric of the minority Shia sect of Mohammaddenism being gunned down in Punjab province or in deference to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Arab fantasies, Bunjab province. For a country claimed to have been created as a safe haven for the Mohammaddens of the Indian Sub-Continent, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan certainly has a voracious appetite for the blood of Mohammaddens :

Shia leader shot dead in Khanpur

arun · Post by **arun** » 29 Jan 2014 22:09

arun wrote:A week on, Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden religion inspired violence sees a Cleric of the minority Shia sect of Mohammaddenism being gunned down in Punjab province or in deference to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Arab fantasies, Bunjab province.

Further on the matter of the Islamic Rebublic of Bakistan's Arab fantasies that cause a substitution of "P" with "B" :

'Al Bakistan' dreamland

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 30 Jan 2014 00:39

BM Badmash announces another push for Taliban Beace talks
Lallulandic Laffra

MALSI SLAM A BAD: Brime Minister Nowaz Badmash announced Wednesday that his government would Bursue beace talks with Taliban militants despite a recent spate of attacks, naming a four-member committee to facilitate the talks.Addressing a session of the National Assembly after a span of six months, Sharif said the government wanted to give beace another chance.The announcement came the same day Taliban militants targeted paramilitary soldiers, killing at least three Rangers personnel in separate bomb attacks in Karachi.Speaking to Dawn.com from an undisclosed location via telephone, Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) spokesman Shahidullah Shahid claimed responsibility for the attacks. Shahid said the Taliban have convened a meeting of the Shura (council) to “assess the committee formed by the federal government for peace talks.” “Taliban are united under Fazlullah and rumours about rifts are baseless,” he said.Dialogue to be ‘open, transparent’
“He said that to ensure transparency and take along all stakeholders, the federal government had included a nominee of the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government in the four-member committee. ““Rahimullah Yusufzai told news agency AFP: “Our role will be of facilitators and we will pave the way for negotiations between the government and the Taliban.” But he cautioned: “I am not attaching any expectations with the process right now because we are not aware of our mandate and other details, including the timeframe that will be given to the committee.”

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 30 Jan 2014 02:24

what an idiot, few days back one Sikh was killed for refusing to pay Jizya.

This guy "Sham" singh is not a Sikh he is probably a taqqiya "musalmaan"

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 30 Jan 2014 03:22

SBajwa wrote:
what an idiot, few days back one Sikh was killed for refusing to pay Jizya.
This guy "Sham" singh is not a Sikh he is probably a taqqiya "musalmaan"

Last year he was lamenting the spirit of Babar and Aurangzeb among Poquies.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 30 Jan 2014 03:49

Banker daughter of British Magistrate arrested in anti-terror raid

partha · Post by **partha** » 30 Jan 2014 05:26

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinio ... 73397.html

Pakistan's march to theocracy

God speed.

A number of young men and women I spoke with in urban centers of South Punjab sympathise with the TTP rather than their own soldiers. Their reason, as one young woman stated: "What's wrong with the Taliban asking for implementation of Sharia? If fighting is the only way they force the government to do what people want, then so be it."

AoA! Ho raha Bakistan nirman.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 30 Jan 2014 06:43

venug wrote:^^^^ what an idiot, few days back one Sikh was killed for refusing to pay Jizya. why doesn't he have ball$ to fight for sikhs in Pak first?

That anti-India video is his form of paying jiziya.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 30 Jan 2014 07:29

Munawar Hassan said that OBL is in every Pakistani's heart. They cant even name a roundabout after Bhaghat Singh (was canceled after protests) nor introduce comparative religion in textbooks.

Remember I talked about Journalists brown panting after that TTP threat? From that article above:

It was a quick call from my editor's office in Karachi informing me not to bother writing anymore about the Tehreek Taliban Pakistan (TTP) or any other militant outfit, religious party or even the cricketer-turned-politician's Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf (PTI). I was told I couldn't even mention TTP and its other sister organisations. The call came in the wake of an attack on a vehicle carrying staff of a media group which killed three people and injured another four

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 30 Jan 2014 07:31

Well Pakis have large hearts....

partha · Post by **partha** » 30 Jan 2014 07:38

Again pointing out that even a relatively sensible Pakistani like Ayesha Siddiqa has omitted mentioning the likes of LeT, JeM in an article about Pakistan's "march to theocracy".

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 30 Jan 2014 08:33

Bad news, biraders.

You don't love us as much as you love India, Pakistan tells US

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 30 Jan 2014 08:35

^^^
Err .. those are sarkari jihadi 'Freedom Fighters' (aka Muslims killing kaffirs). They get their chaddis in a twist when darker shade of green starts eliminating lighter shades of green.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 30 Jan 2014 08:38

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2014/01 ... b-as-well/

As in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP), resistance against polio campaigns has surfaced in Punjab as well.
People in the two villages of Fort Abbas have refused to get their children vaccinated against the crippling polio disease.
When polio teams arrived in the villages the locals not only refused to get their children administrated the polio drops but also used abusive language and misbehaved with the team members.

The accused said that polio drops and other vaccinations are part of an international conspiracy against Muslims. They claimed that their children and wives are perfectly healthy without any vaccinations for many years.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 30 Jan 2014 08:42

Karan Dixit wrote:Bad news, biraders.

You don't love us as much as you love India, Pakistan tells US

Some baki diplomutt wants cavity search?

partha · Post by **partha** » 30 Jan 2014 09:55

Future 18th largest economic super power -

http://tribune.com.pk/story/665238/blea ... ali-niger/

ISLAMABAD:

With a staggering 5.4 million children out-of-school, Pakistan is likely to miss the Education For All (EFA) target that was set to be achieved by 2015, according to EFA Global Monitoring Report released on Wednesday.

Projecting a grim future, the report states that if the country moved at current pace the adult literacy rate (15 and above) by the year 2015 will be 60 per cent of which female at 47 per cent and male 72 per cent. Besides, the adult illiteracy rate by 2015 also seems to be estimated at an appalling 51 million of which 65% will be females.

The report reveals that if Pakistan were to halve the inequality in access to education to the level of Vietnam, it would increase its economic growth by 1.7 percentage points.

Alarmingly, Pakistan is ‘very far’ from meeting the 2015 deadline and ranks among nations like Mali, Niger and Lesotho in the countries list away from achieving the education goal, the report further states.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 30 Jan 2014 10:19

Three Rangers personnel among four killed in attacks

KARACHI: Four persons, including three Rangers officials, were killed and 10 others were injured in triple blasts in Nazimabad and North Nazimabad areas on Rangers on Wednesday. The Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) owned up the attacks.

In the first incident, two consecutive cracker attacks on a check post killed a Rangers official and left six others injured.The injured were taken to the Abbasi Shaheed Hospital for treatment.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 30 Jan 2014 10:26

How to control terrorism

Enemies of Pakistan or those powers {CIA, RAA etc} who don’t want stability in the country always try new techniques to create tribulations in different cities of Pakistan. Now these wicked powers have started sectarian violence in all over the country but the people who don’t want calm in Pakistan have failed because Sunnis and Shias have realized the mischief and live together in complete harmony.

Now the time has been come that our judicially should realize the Law of Quran; according to The Quran “Blood for blood”. In our country there is no law for the person who killed 100 to 200 innocent people I think our government wants to make Europe happy; that’s why they don’t give death punishment in Pakistan. I has added to the morale of all criminals and terrorists because they know that if they kill thousands of people and the courts give them any kind of punishment, the government will not allow to fulfill the orders of the courts. So it’s the time to give punishment to all those prisoners who have been sentenced to death as they all are proved of having been involved in serious kinds of crime. Government of Pakistan must give them death sentence. By this, the situation of our country will get normalized.

See it is that simple a solution. Why can't TSP implement this right away? I am telling you paklurks it is all a conspiracy. Now why don't you burn down a couple of KFCs in protest? That should teach them a lesson.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 30 Jan 2014 10:34

Minister says MFN issue 'buried' now

Federal Minister for Trade and Textile Engineering Khurram Dastgir has said that Pakistan will not grant the Most Favoured Nation status to India.

sivab · Post by **sivab** » 30 Jan 2014 10:35

Didn't see this posted earlier

http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/posts/20 ... ans_future

BD: If you had lunch with President Obama today, what would you tell him about the Afghan war and about Pakistan?

Armitage: "Twenty-five years from now, Mr. President, I can assure you there will be a nation called Afghanistan, with much the same borders and the same rough demographic makeup. I probably couldn't say that about Pakistan."

On the Afghan war, "I would say, Mr. President, it is not worth one more limb." Perhaps just leave enough for counterterror missions and maybe some trainers.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 30 Jan 2014 10:36

Mean-e-while elsewhere..
Religious scholar gunned down in Quetta

QUETTA: Armed men shot dead a religious scholar in the provincial capital, police sources said on Wednesday.According to details, Maulana Abdullah died on the spot when armed motorcyclists opened fire at him on Sabzal Road near Uzbak Chowk. The body of deceased was shifted to BMC hospital for medico-legal formalities and later handed over to heirs.Sources said the deceased was a senior leader of Afghan Ulema Itehad Council. The police have started investigation into the incident.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 30 Jan 2014 10:41

Pakistani Premier Forms Group to Start Talks With Taliban

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif named a four-member commission on Wednesday to initiate peace talks with the Pakistani Taliban, saying he would pursue a dialogue with the militants despite recent terrorist attacks that have left the country reeling.

The four-member commission announced by Mr. Sharif includes three of his trusted aides, and appeared to have been formed hastily. It includes Irfan Siddiqui, an influential newspaper columnist recently appointed as an a special assistant to the prime minister; Muhammad Amir, a retired army major and intelligence official; Rahimullah Yusufzai, a veteran journalist regarded as an expert on Taliban and Afghan affairs; and Rustam Shah Mohmand, a former Pakistani ambassador to Afghanistan.