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rohitvats wrote:Just got my hands on a Nexus 5 courtesy a colleague who bought it over Google Play Store.

Must say, what a fine piece of equipment; the touch is superb (and smooth) as is the display. Very crisp and very lively. Looks and feels beautiful. And the technical specs are very good indeed. No wonder the screen looks so amazing...full HD and all that. Nice 4.95 inch screen size and weighs very less. I guess 5-inch is just about the max screen size (and phone size) which one can handle comfortably with one hand. And because it is so light (compared to my Nokia bricks), handling becomes still more comfortable.

The equipment was shipped from Singapore to her in India.

All in all, a very good device which will serve you long and true.
Yes. I've been quite happy with mine and the screen is the most color accurate I've seen. Battery life is better than Nexus 4 and comparable to the HTC One (while the HTC is in power saving mode). Not the best battery life, but in the middle of the pack and very workable. It is available in desh through the Play Store.

EDIT: I bought two of these one in white for SHQ and one in black for myself. SHQ loves it but I didn't get any worthwhile favors (of the L&M type) in return. :(

Another nice Android phone is the Moto X that is very close to stock Android. A colleague is getting one next week and I'll get a chance to play with it. It was being sold on sale on Moto's website for $330 over a week ago.
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The new Pebble Steel pe mann aya hai. I understand inside it is still the same as the original Pebble, and cover has changed only.

Anybody has any user experience with it?
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^^It feels nice, just don't gift it to your G/SHQ coz its a man's watch. :mrgreen: Is it worth the price? Probably not for me.

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Mean-e-while... Lenovo reportedly nearing $3 billion deal for Motorola's handset business. That didn't take long! :mrgreen: Now look for a certain Regina bibi to jump ship to Chacha with her chaddi on phyrr :rotfl: I just hope good people like Lior Ron are re-absorbed back into their old Maps/Knowledge/whatever its called now group and not left out in the cold despite failing to get blockbuster sales from Moto X.

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Mort may be happier in the future... Reported Google deal could see Samsung deliver cleaner Android, less bloat
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negi wrote:Unless I have been living in a cave or time capsule on any given day number of stable free apps available for iOS is more than Android. Moreover that metric is imho useless for your FIL might not even install more than say ~8-10 commonly used apps.
It is the India relevant ones that count, specifically things like "Panchang" (astrological almanac) (the Tamil Thirukaneetham Panchangam), the Jyotish stuff and other stuff that he is into. I saw those apps on someone's Android phone, so , know they exist on it. I dont have it on Phroot machine, so dont know much.

The typing bit can be taken care of by the keyboard that comes with the add on covers/ carry cases that come with the tablets. Some of them look pretty cool. Does away with the screen typing.
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RB: What drove the sale ? Lenovo's desire to buy, Goog's desire to sell or a combination of factors ? Sounded like a surprise deal to someone who doesn't watch the telecom sector as closely as you do. What's driving this ?
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A combination of the 1st 2 factors you mention but the main reason is hidden....hint: notice the bhai-bhai agreements coming out between Chacha and a certain SoKo behemoth? Somebody here once said, that behemoth gets no special treatment. :mrgreen:

Lenovo's progress has been nothing short of awesome....they are on their way to becoming the new Apple one day. They have good design chops, great manufacturing capability and good HW capability....HTC had the 1st one but didn't have the other 2.
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Marten,

Take a look to what you do. If you use Google services and are happy with them, then stay with Android. Additionally, there are more scientific and engineering apps for Android and iOS. If not, then Nokia will be better for you. It isn't about the hardware as that will change every year with newer, better, faster, and smaller+bigger. It is about the software and ecosystem.
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Shalav wrote:The new Pebble Steel pe mann aya hai. I understand inside it is still the same as the original Pebble, and cover has changed only.

Anybody has any user experience with it?
Badi khushi se I can gift it to you sir, bas aap hamko ye de do :)

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Raja Bose wrote:^^It feels nice, just don't gift it to your G/SHQ coz its a man's watch. :mrgreen: Is it worth the price? Probably not for me.
Abe har cheez ko apni khatara se mat compare kar. :mrgreen:
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Abe mere Bess ko gaali deta hai....that is a bannable offense according to new forum rules :twisted:
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Marten,

It isn't about quad core or hexa core, but about the apps in question. If you use fairly standard apps for email, contacts, and calendar, then any device will serve you well. The Lumia 928 is a nice device. Is it $250 new or used?
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Negi,

You'll be surprised as there aren't very many Brietling dealers. I was with a friend some 10 years back when we went to a jewelry store in north Houston. A nice feature is that it automatically calls the coast guard to rescue you. Even I wouldn't wear this during mijjle launch.
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Marten wrote: Negimullah: If you're in SFO, let me know. Am at Sacramento.
Send me your number sirji. You have my email (negi daat novino @ chacha)
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Mort sir there is one in SFO :). Anyways I have already burnt a lot on this useless hobby and now that I have RTI I cannot even afford it :)
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Raja Bose wrote: Mean-e-while... Lenovo reportedly nearing $3 billion deal for Motorola's handset business. That didn't take long! :mrgreen: Now look for a certain Regina bibi to jump ship to Chacha with her chaddi on phyrr :rotfl:
As predicted above (& a few months ago on this dhaaga).... :mrgreen:

Lenovo gets Motorola, but Google gets to keep its skunkworks
Google will also hold onto the Advanced Technology and Projects division and fold it into its Android team. That group is responsible for some of Motorola's more wild-eyed projects, like the authentication pills and tattoos that ATAP chief Regina Dugan showed off at AllThingsD's D11 conference.
Except it leaves out a itsty-bitsy detail.....most ATAP folks are on a 2 year Motorola contract which does not automatically get converted to a Google full-time position. Guess what is gonna happen next? :twisted:
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Marten wrote:Mort saar, I think it's better for me to go with Lumia 928 off ebay for $250. Much better value for money. None of the apps I use require a quad core, plus the camera on the Lumia beats every other competitor comfortably. Paying the premium for a 5" 1080 screen over a 4.5" 720 screen is probably best saved for next year. :) At 16k rupees, my bania dimaag is happier with this hardware. hehe.

Negimullah: If you're in SFO, let me know. Am at Sacramento.
928 is heavy though (due to integrated wireless charging) so heft before you buy.
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Raja Bose wrote:^^It feels nice, just don't gift it to your G/SHQ coz its a man's watch.
Not really - SHQ is "buying" it for me for our anniversary. :mrgreen:



Negiji - :)



Re: 928 v/s iPhunwa image comparison (Late night flight - full moon - over cloud cover) phool auto on both captures.

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I think women look great in men's watches(upto a certain medium size), mens shirts oversized and hanging down to thigh level .... and nothing else :mrgreen:
lot of high end ads play on that theme.
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So google is taking a $9 billion hit on its motorola purchase. I know it sold parts of motorola before for some money, but since the purchase, motorola lost 2 billion too. Of course, it still has the patents, but their worth is not proved yet.

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http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-exch ... 50173.html
Sure, Motorola had $3 billion of cash on its balance sheet when it was acquired and Google later sold a set-top box division for $2.4 billion. But that still leaves Google CEO Larry Page left to explain why he’s only getting $3 billion for the remaining net investment of $7 billion. "Patents," he'd likely reply.
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Singha wrote:I think women look great in men's watches(upto a certain medium size), mens shirts oversized and hanging down to thigh level .... and nothing else :mrgreen:
lot of high end ads play on that theme.
Who has had G/SHQs wear one of their shirts and nothing else below...fess up! :mrgreen:
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hanumadu wrote:So google is taking a $9 billion hit on its motorola purchase. I know it sold parts of motorola before for some money, but since the purchase, motorola lost 2 billion too. Of course, it still has the patents, but their worth is not proved yet.
The patents are worthless. Someone once did a calculation and said Chacha only paid $1.5 billion net cash for Motor-Oil.
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One is the GoopPad and one is the iPad - guess which is which?

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Raja Bose wrote:One is the GoopPad and one is the iPad - guess which is which?
Good gravy, that's pretty close. I'm pretty certain the one on the right is the iPad though. So, has someone hacked the Android icons to look like iPad icons, or did someone hack iOS to run on the GooPad as well?
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ArmenT wrote: Good gravy, that's pretty close. I'm pretty certain the one on the right is the iPad though. So, has someone hacked the Android icons to look like iPad icons, or did someone hack iOS to run on the GooPad as well?
have you not heard of red00r or whited00r or some such door with zeros in place of o in the spelling?
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Chrome allows websites to listen in using your own mic
Israeli developer Tal Ater wrote in a blog post on Wednesday that a design flaw in the Chrome browser allows malicious websites to use your computer's microphone to eavesdrop on you.

Google denies this is the case.

"When you click the button to start or stop the speech recognition on the site, what you won't notice is that the site may have also opened another hidden pop-under window," Ater wrote. "This window can wait until the main site is closed, and then start listening in without asking for permission. This can be done in a window that you never saw, never interacted with, and probably didn't even know was there."

Chrome remembers that you gave a site permission to use the microphone and will maintain that permission between browser sessions without asking for permission again.

Contrary to Google's online documentation, no persistent icon appeared in the system trays of our Windows machines while Chrome was listening.


To make sure that this is not happening to you, choose Settings, click "Show advanced settings...", click Content Settings, then scroll down and select "Do not allow sites to access my camera and microphone."
ye have been warned.
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^If it is true then it was most probably intentionally left as a backdoor for NSA and such agencies to eavesdrop on people.
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very convenient indeed. but I would imagine even IOS and Win have "drop ins" to do this without needing a browser. they download huge updates and bugfix releases, nobody can say if a few free "extras" are also installed on the side.
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Apparently M$ is close to picking a CEO. will be good if nadella gets picked. Fellow is about the only one who has the technical chops and a future facing product.

Else they could pick terry myerson if they want to keep their a-hole legacy intact.
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I bat for Elop - his Nokia training makes him a good choice for someone who can balance both product & design focus (learnt from Nokia) and dealing with business realities (learnt from Mickey) plus he is not a-hole. Nadella is a close second but he has mainly dealt with enterprise back-end stuff. Myerson is an idiot. JLG is not rough and tough to keep everybody in line and Panos Panay is not experienced enough.

Mickey needs a CEO who knows products and can recognize a gem when he sees one but keeps his hands off from meddling into various divisions, each of which already has pretty strong product plans, SVPs and teams who can competently do their own thing. That is different from the Mahdi who would be more hands on and actually helping uncover gems actively...leading to too much dependency and heaven-wards gazing from the rank and file to get product direction from the Hallowed One....as we can see from how Bawarchi is fumbling on new product introductions, without him.
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Promoting Elop to CEO will be a brave move simply because Nokia went down under his reign , not that he was responsible for it but then world is not fair no one takes kindly to a captain under whose watch a big ship goes down.
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^^Actually he managed to refloat it, get it back into products people buy, figuring out which aspects it had competitive advantage (camera, ID) and restart the cash flow (in the right direction :mrgreen: ) - it was sinking like PNS Ghazi before that under OPK. If you really look at the fundamentals, all of GB's contemporaries went down into the hole literally except GB. Motorola went down, SE went down, Bibi is in accelerated free fall...in comparison GB actually did quite well. Motorola despite being in the hole much before Nokia couldn't do anything to regain sales even under Chacha's sponsorship....after like how many years they managed to get out a phone like Moto X and even then flubbed it massively. GB managed to recover from its free fall in much shorter time though it wasn't home free before getting acquired. Hopefully Mickey doesn't mess with their product design process and just provides the financial muscle to back their work. Problem is anal-e-cysts and myriad tech journos want GB to magically get to the level of Sammy or FruitCo....it won't happen unless there is another market disruption and if history is any witness even then it will be some other company who will become top dog. Typically when an incumbent highly successful company falls, they never regain their former dominant position. That is why I admire what Mickey has managed to achieve.....growing like they did for 30+ years is a bit unheard of in the tech industry. They are boring as hell but then sound businesses are rarely interesting whizzbang stuff. The key to do that is simple yet difficult: (1) Maintain stable cash cows (2) Diversify into other areas and monetize. (1) is boring stuff but gets the cash registers ringing continuously. (2) is what ensures you don't get disrupted (or rather reduces that probablity) and are left up Paki creek without a paddle. Its important not just to diversify but to have a solid plan to monetize it, otherwise its just a loss leader and an expensive hobby. In fact once/if Chacha succeeds in doing that, I will consider it a rock solid long-term investment.
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Microsoft named Nadella as CEO
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Raja Bose wrote:
Singha wrote:I think women look great in men's watches(upto a certain medium size), mens shirts oversized and hanging down to thigh level .... and nothing else :mrgreen:
lot of high end ads play on that theme.
Who has had G/SHQs wear one of their shirts and nothing else below...fess up! :mrgreen:
???? Why wear shirt?????

WTF...Moto sold to Lenovo?
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saip wrote:Microsoft named Nadella as CEO
Is it official yet? I didn't hear of any PR from Mickey about this after close of market today.
sunilUpa wrote: WTF...Moto sold to Lenovo?
Irony is they just changed all the Motorola signs to say "Motorola A Google Company" few months ago. :mrgreen:
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Raja Bose wrote:
sunilUpa wrote: WTF...Moto sold to Lenovo?
Irony is they just changed all the Motorola signs to say "Motorola A Google Company" few months ago. :mrgreen:

Just thinking about how Chinese will pronounce Motorola....
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Well, Huffingtonpost, Bloomberg, Fox etc are reporting that Nadella is being nominated as the CEO. Then again it could be 'Dewey Defeats Truman' kind of thing.
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Raja Bose wrote:... I will consider it a rock solid long-term investment.
If you want solid long-term investment, then why invest in the IT industry at all? There are other sectors of the world-wide economy that will outperform IT over a long period of time.
IT is not the panacea for all our ills.
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^^^Diversification saar. I don't put all eggs in IT basket anyways...too risky.
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It looks like Canon had a decent 2013 year for a camera manufacturer. Business imaging (copiers) and DSLRs did well in a tough environment.
I think Canon, Nikon and Sony are fully capable of putting out great camera products that people will want in addition to a smart phone. The biggest problem all of them have is that these companies are very slow to improve software for their products. This is something that is correctable. I think Canon & Sony can do it, but I don't know if Nikon has the resources. Nikon seems like the German optics & camera makers of the 1960s, very slow to change. They will stick around as a much smaller company and remain focused on optics like Schneider.
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