Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India
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elimination and collapse into regional fragments can only happen if two conditions are met
- first family forced into exile with various cases and judgements pursued vigorously making it impossible to ever return
- a cleanup of the crime/big industry that supports the octopus from behind is done, incl going after them in safe havens abroad like dubai
INC is a top down machine and these two "glues" hold it together. get rid of the keystone in the arch and rest will fragment. some regional outfits like KA, assam, haryana, uttarkhand are probably good enough to hold out on their own. the central "Durbar" are full of rank incompetents and courtiers and will mostly go into self-imposed exile, civilian trades like law and journalism and retire from politics entirely as they have little mass base. most of them have secured their financial future in 10 yrs of UPA rule and no longer need to work for generations.
- first family forced into exile with various cases and judgements pursued vigorously making it impossible to ever return
- a cleanup of the crime/big industry that supports the octopus from behind is done, incl going after them in safe havens abroad like dubai
INC is a top down machine and these two "glues" hold it together. get rid of the keystone in the arch and rest will fragment. some regional outfits like KA, assam, haryana, uttarkhand are probably good enough to hold out on their own. the central "Durbar" are full of rank incompetents and courtiers and will mostly go into self-imposed exile, civilian trades like law and journalism and retire from politics entirely as they have little mass base. most of them have secured their financial future in 10 yrs of UPA rule and no longer need to work for generations.
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Closet Marxist. Why don't he review Quran and Bible and comment whether it makes any sense to him. Desai being vaishya seems to have taken it personal and written a commentary on it. I don't find anything fundamentally wrong with those comments in Bhagwad Gita. Knowledge was considered supreme but without power, good lifestyle. Courage and valour had power but massive responsibility and second rank, money making and economics would lead a posh live but had no say in ruling neither status, those who do not fit any of the above has to work in fields ! Don't see how it is different from current day capitalist system ?Meghnad Desai: Lord of the Lies
By Ranbir Singh
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Meghnad Desai on his new book ‘Who Wrote the Bhagwad Gita?‘
“I wrote the book as a secular inquiry into the Gita because in a sense, I could never make head or tail of it and then I stopped trying. About two or three years ago, I was asked to deliver the Goswami lecture in Goa and I used that opportunity to speak on the Gita. It is a confused philosophical book. All kinds of people have liked it from Hitler and serious philosophers to Sufi saints and other seekers. But it justifies violence. Saying it is an allegory as Gandhiji said, that speaks of good vs evil, is something I don’t agree with — I feel that at the end of the day, it is about one man who doesn’t want to kill and who pleads, “Let me go!” And then, after a huge, philosophical discussion, he ends up killing everybody. How can people believe we are nonviolent? Is violence a godsend?,”
“First, in modern India since 1885, since the first English translation by Telang came, few people knew of the Gita. Most did not know Sanskrit, the language of Adi Shankaracharya’s first commentary. With the first English translation, modern India became aware of the Gita…this was the same time that the Congress Party was formed. All of a sudden, the Gita became the text of modern India, and is part of the Independence movement, promoted as a concise form of Hindu philosophy. And lot of Bengali terrorists used it as well. Tilak approved of it. Congress revolutionaries liked the Gita. S Radhakrishnan in 1948 gave the first post-Independence commentary; he had a good, scholarly style, and it became a secular text of India,” explains Desai. Swami Vivekananda too was skeptical of the Gita and thought that it had no single author. Moreover, we are not sure if Krishna was a historical character."
"The Gita is not suitable for modern India. It is against women. Only two shlokas refer to them and both insult women. Arjuna says if there is kulanash (genocide) women will go astray. In the ninth chapter, Krishna says ‘those born of low or degraded wombs, vaishyas and shudras can also come to Me’. Moreover, the Gita talks of nishkama karma and says that action has no consequence. If that is what we believe, then how can we overcome corruption? There is then no morality. And you are immortal, so you don’t die, so murder is nothing. It does not matter what you do,” Says Desai.
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Meghnad Desai is the guy who helped ghost write Gadhaffi's son's thesis. He is an academic version of Miley Cyrus. He had his moment of fame for being a good brown sahib. Now he will do anything to seek attention.
The fact that the Gita calls for violence when required, within the context of the Mahabharata to defeat a murderous rapist makes it all the more venerable.
That he is allowed to criticize the Gita without being subject to blasphemy laws or jihad speaks volumes about the freedom enjoyed by hindus and their critics.
The fact that the Gita calls for violence when required, within the context of the Mahabharata to defeat a murderous rapist makes it all the more venerable.
That he is allowed to criticize the Gita without being subject to blasphemy laws or jihad speaks volumes about the freedom enjoyed by hindus and their critics.
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OT: Do we really need to justify BG and its message just because some 'Brown Sahib' claims not to have understood it. Let him read Bible or Kooran and get complete sense from these two documents.
Any idiot who claims that Indians did not know about BG and only after the advent of 'White masters', people became aware of BG deserves contemptuous smile and nothing else.
Any idiot who claims that Indians did not know about BG and only after the advent of 'White masters', people became aware of BG deserves contemptuous smile and nothing else.
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4 Steps to sustained high growth..
1. Infrastructure
2. Human Capital
3. Business Regulations
4. Finance
Minute 13+ of Raghuram Rajan's interview with Karan Thapar. Question about NaMo comes up at the end.
http://ibnlive.in.com/shows/Devil's-Advocate.html Not a permanent link
1. Infrastructure
2. Human Capital
3. Business Regulations
4. Finance
Minute 13+ of Raghuram Rajan's interview with Karan Thapar. Question about NaMo comes up at the end.
http://ibnlive.in.com/shows/Devil's-Advocate.html Not a permanent link
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Sonia and Sheela are missing.
Here is the list of names Kejriwal presented at the meet:
Narendra Modi
Rahul Gandhi
Suresh Kalmadi
Nitin Gadkari
Sushil Kumar Shinde
Praful Patel
BS Yeddyurappa
Anant Kumar
Veerappa Moily
HD Kumaraswamy
P Chidambaram
Alagari
Kanimozhi
Salman Khurshid
Annu Tandon
A Raja
Tarun Gogoi
Kapil Sibal
Mayawati
Mulayam Singh
Sriprakash Jaiswal
Pawan Bansal
Farooq Abdullah
Naveen Jindal
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A Lose-lose presupposition - Tehelka - Ajit Sahi
Congress Vice-President and putative prime ministerial candidate Rahul Gandhi told a TV news channel last week he believed his party would win this year’s Lok Sabha election. Given that a spate of opinion polls have predicted a drubbing for the shambolic Congress party, shocked commentators asked, does he really think so? If those around Rahul are to be believed, no, he doesn’t think the Congress is coming back to power. In fact, Rahul is beginning to reconcile himself to the possibility of the Congress scoring its worst-ever tally in Parliament, lower than the 114 it won in 1999. But Rahul is also increasingly of the view that the BJP, his party’s principal rival and the favourite of the opinion polls to form the next government, is going to be disappointed. And that in the BJP’s failure to score enough numbers would lie the chance of the Congress.
First, why Rahul has begun to accept that a third successive term in New Delhi is too uphill for his flamed-out party. “We have allowed the grass to grow under our feet for too long,” rues a key adviser of Rahul’s, wiser on hindsight. Yes, the quarterbacks of India’s most famous dynast concede, he should have been projected as the party’s prime ministerial nominee long ago. “When Rahul says he isn’t interested in power, he actually speaks the truth,” says an insider wryly. “But that’s also why he appears to have no killer instinct.”
Aides now say Rahul should have played on the front foot far more, aggressively dominating the government’s agenda instead of keeping a polite distance from PM Manmohan Singh, whose insipid leadership of the past four years has made his UPA-2 regime too toxic to defend. Aides also accept Rahul has no credible answers on why he didn’t act on corruption charges against his party’s governments and leaders, at the Centre and in Maharashtra and Himachal Pradesh.
Aides and advisers have been especially foxed by Rahul’s refusal (and of his mother, Congress party president Sonia Gandhi’s, too) to directly attack the BJP’s prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi even though the Gujarat chief minister himself has been barbecuing them in his public speeches. Surprising aides, Rahul has turned down suggestions that he debunk Modi’s claim of having given good governance to Gujarat since taking charge of the state 12 years ago. He has even put a lid on attempts by the cadres to investigate and expose some of Modi’s claims of development as false. “Rahul has an aversion to dirty politics,” an insider says unhappily.
Another aide, however, insists Rahul is in no torpor and that it is political calculation rather than morals that is shaping his approach. For better or for worse, the Congress vice-president reckons that challenging Modi aggressively on economy and development would be counterproductive, given Gujarat’s rather upbeat economy that appears brighter compared with the national average as well as those of the Congress-ruled states. “The trouble is that Rahul is defensive about his party-led government’s performance, especially its inability to revive the economy and push back the charge of corruption,” he says. “Rahul wants to focus more on his party’s economic prescriptions for the lower classes that are above the poverty line but still outside the middle class.”
Another reason Rahul is reconciling to a Congress downgrade in this summer’s parliamentary election is that nearly the entire rung of the party’s senior citizens has abandoned him. The top guns are alienated by Rahul’s obstinate push for inner-party reforms that aim to break up the old boys’ club and force a culture of transparency. Naturally, this has alarmed the hitherto deeply entrenched interests who are quietly digging in for a prolonged entrenched warfare once the election is over. Since most satraps, and their second-tier leaderships in the states, control the party apparatus in their backyards, Rahul has become a lone ranger in his quest. Old-timers recall how his father, former PM Rajiv Gandhi, had tripped in the 1980s when he tried to radically overhaul the party. A failure to win for his party the forthcoming election would further erode Rahul’s capital, already much depleted in public imagination from losing a string of state elections.
Far-fetched as they may appear, the eerie prospects of an implosive takedown of the Congress party’s original dynasty in case of an electoral rout are real. In fact, the process of choosing candidates for the Lok Sabha election is presaging that later battle, as the old guard and the traditional factions are girding up to fight for Lok Sabha seats for themselves and their factotums. It is increasingly becoming a no-win for Rahul, who realises that while he may need to embrace compromise in distributing nominations, he alone would be blamed for the party’s loss.
Half that battle would be salvaged, though, if the BJP were to fall short of forming the government. That would require the largest Opposition party to be stalled at around 160-odd seats or less, a good deal short of the 272 it would need for a majority in Parliament. Some opinion polls this month have suggested the Congress could get around 100 seats and the non-Congress and non-BJP parties around 180. Rahul believes it would then be opportune for his party to back a Third Front government as it did in 1996 to keep the BJP out. The scenario is now prompting a new thinking in the Rahul camp on how to defeat the BJP. And the answer is the “Muslim voter” model, which suggests that Muslims vote for any candidate that they think is best suited to defeat the BJP.
The argument goes that the Congress should field lightweight candidates in constituencies where it does not have much scope to defeat the BJP, so that the anti-BJP voters consolidate behind a candidate from a third party. The proponents of this tactic are especially suggesting its application in Uttar Pradesh, where the Congress is unlikely to forge an alliance with either of the state’s two biggest parties, the ruling Samajwadi Party and former CM Mayawati’s Bahujan Samaj Party. The return of former Karnataka CM BS Yeddyurappa to the BJP has also thrown up the idea of either a tactical or unspoken alliance with the Janata Dal (Secular) of former PM HD Deve Gowda.
“The fact is that if Modi fails to bring the BJP to power, his political power would be hugely dented,” a Congress leader told TEHELKA. Having been out of power for a decade already, the BJP would then run a risk of falling into disarray, he said, which would give Rahul enough time to reshape the Congress party and be ready for the next election. In any case, in a scenario wherein the Congress party backs a minority Third Front government, Rahul would have the advantage of pulling out the support at a time of his choosing that would trigger a mid-term election, he suggested.
The Rahul camp is also making a distinction between Modi and the BJP. “Modi as PM would be unacceptable to many political parties that cannot win without Muslim votes,” says the Congress leader. Several such parties, including West Bengal CM Mamata Banerjee’s Trinamool Congress and Bihar CM Nitish Kumar’s Janata Dal (United), would be otherwise willing to join the BJP if Modi is kept out. For this reason, the Congress would be happier if the BJP is unable to shake Modi off after the results are out, which would then automatically bring a Third Front to coalesce.
“The funny thing is that over the past two decades, the Congress has lost Lok Sabha polls when it expected to win and won when it expected to lose,” says another leader with a chuckle. {Lol, most of BJP cadres were not happy the way ABV govt functioned, but in 2014 the case is opposite} As a newly-installed president of the Congress, Sonia had led herself to believe she was well placed to lead her party back to power in 1999, which the incumbent BJP-led coalition unexpectedly won. In 2004, few had given the Congress even an outside chance to topple the NDA government, but the latter unexpectedly lost it.
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Whoa...! fiery is as fiery does.... Says it like it is without batting an eyelid.... Gives voice, form and expression to raw emotion that doesn't show itself but that we all know is there.....
Lekhi garu's now my top choice for HRD mantri and I&B mantri both combined only.....

P.S.
Arrite, also seems like some much needed 'heft' is coming into the NM campaign... BJP in Bengal will be a meaty proposition now on... from teetar...
>>Mission272+ for BJP @India272 13m
Confirmed: Bappi Lahiri joining BJP - now Breaking on http://india272.com #Mission272News
And this is from the officially verified account of amitbhai shah...
>>Amit Shah @AmitShahOffice 3h
Mitro Meerut Rally ke jute hue saare log jo twitter par hai, apne kaam ki pragati suchna de aur chitra bhi bheje
So, seems like the social media campaign will intensify even more now... bring it on....
All said, I still think that while the odds favor an NDA sarkar, the odds are still kinda against NM becoming PM in 2014..... somehow... my anti-jinx mantra...
Lekhi garu's now my top choice for HRD mantri and I&B mantri both combined only.....

P.S.
Arrite, also seems like some much needed 'heft' is coming into the NM campaign... BJP in Bengal will be a meaty proposition now on... from teetar...
>>Mission272+ for BJP @India272 13m
Confirmed: Bappi Lahiri joining BJP - now Breaking on http://india272.com #Mission272News
And this is from the officially verified account of amitbhai shah...
>>Amit Shah @AmitShahOffice 3h
Mitro Meerut Rally ke jute hue saare log jo twitter par hai, apne kaam ki pragati suchna de aur chitra bhi bheje
So, seems like the social media campaign will intensify even more now... bring it on....
All said, I still think that while the odds favor an NDA sarkar, the odds are still kinda against NM becoming PM in 2014..... somehow... my anti-jinx mantra...
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what does brought down mean? as far as the figers show jaiho is doing brisk bijnissgandharva wrote:
as brisk as dabang one.
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The film is suffering from weak script and direction. Does poorly, and people connect it to flirting with modi.. amazing.
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NaMo accused of giving huge financial favors to Venkiah Naidu's company
This website is anti-Modi and gives many lies. So I cant be sure it is true. But allegation is that NaMo gave use rights over 600 million sqm = 6000 million sqft = 600 crore sqft = 600 sqkm = an area as big as Mumbai for 100 years for meter Rs 15 to a company !!! And Mr. Venkiah Naidu's relatives own the company !!! Now this allegation may be all wrong as this webdite has printed many lies against NaMo in past. Solution I propose is MRCM and Right to Recall CM. If land rent were to directly go to citizens, then citizens should not allow a penny of such loss due to favoritism.
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http://truthofgujarat.com/narendra-modi ... odi-style/
How Narendra Modi pocketed former Advani aide Venkaiah Naidu
Not many would have taken notice of a large piece of land being transferred to a company called the Archian Chemicals in remote Kutchh area on a 99 year lease for salt based chemical project in 2005. The only noticeable factor was the size and the rate of lease. The area of 600 miliion square meter of land was rented away by the Government of Gujarat at the rate of just 15 paise per annum! Perhaps this deal would have gone unnoticed, had the company not failed to start their declared project within the two years stipulated time. Since the company did not start the work till 2014, it attracted the penalty of cancellation of the lease and reverting the land back to the Government.
However, what is bizarre is that, Government instead of the starting the procedure to recover the land from the defaulting company, suddenly, accepted a fresh application from the same company which was processed by the Gujarat Maritime Board. It has now been realized that the Archian Company belonged to the family of Venkaiah Naidu and that was the reason for giving away 600 million square meter of virtually free Government land. Gujarat’s leading vernacular daily, Gujarat Samachar, reported on 30th January, 2014, that the Gujarat Maritime Board has given a “in-principle” sanction to the Company to build a 150 long Jetty at the Kori-creek in Kutchh.
The application for sanction of the Jetty is now pending in the office of the Chief Minister Mr. Modi. What has surprised most of the people is the way Government has overlooked the penalty clause and instead of recovering the land given originally, the Company is once again given a reward of a Jetty. The most shocking aspect of the new deal is the sensitivity of the Kori-creek area which is at Indo-Pak border and a dispute exists between the two countries regarding the creek!
The reason for this generosity of the Chief Minister towards Venkaiah is not very difficult to find. Since 2009, Modi had been facing the tough resistance from his mentor LK Advani and his close confidants in his march to reach the top . M Venkaiah Naidu, Sushma Swaraj, Ananth Kumar, the close confidants of L K Advani had refused to accept Modi as their super boss till the Parliamentary meeting on 13th September, 2013. Shri LK Advani as a protest refused to attend the meeting. Yet the meeting on 13th September,2013 that was attended by 10 of the 12 members of the Parliamentary Board namely, Rajnath Singh, Murli Manohar Joshi, M Venkaiah Naidu, Nitin Gadkari, Sushma Swaraj, Arun Jaitley, Narendra Modi, Ananth Kumar, Thawarchand Gehlot and Ramlal anointed Modi as the Prime Ministerial candidate of BJP. The resistance of the dissidents melted away as Modi waved his magic-wand.
Mr Venkaiah Naidu was perhaps the closest to Advani. As the former President of BJP, he did have a clout in BJP. On 30th August, 2009, Venkaiah Naidu, was quoted saying "Advaniji is the leader. He will continue to lead the party; there is no proposal to change anybody, we are surprised by these reports about succession plan, stepping down, appointment of new president, new leader, RSS dictation– all these things… are totally baseless. They are speculative and imaginative."
But Kori-creek tells the whole story. Quite apart from the inner party corruption, the nation deserves to know why a place as sensitive as Kori-creek is being handed over to a private company of Venkaiah Naidu? Can the security of the nation be bartered for the exchange of a vote for the Prime Ministerial candidate?
This website is anti-Modi and gives many lies. So I cant be sure it is true. But allegation is that NaMo gave use rights over 600 million sqm = 6000 million sqft = 600 crore sqft = 600 sqkm = an area as big as Mumbai for 100 years for meter Rs 15 to a company !!! And Mr. Venkiah Naidu's relatives own the company !!! Now this allegation may be all wrong as this webdite has printed many lies against NaMo in past. Solution I propose is MRCM and Right to Recall CM. If land rent were to directly go to citizens, then citizens should not allow a penny of such loss due to favoritism.
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http://truthofgujarat.com/narendra-modi ... odi-style/
How Narendra Modi pocketed former Advani aide Venkaiah Naidu
Not many would have taken notice of a large piece of land being transferred to a company called the Archian Chemicals in remote Kutchh area on a 99 year lease for salt based chemical project in 2005. The only noticeable factor was the size and the rate of lease. The area of 600 miliion square meter of land was rented away by the Government of Gujarat at the rate of just 15 paise per annum! Perhaps this deal would have gone unnoticed, had the company not failed to start their declared project within the two years stipulated time. Since the company did not start the work till 2014, it attracted the penalty of cancellation of the lease and reverting the land back to the Government.
However, what is bizarre is that, Government instead of the starting the procedure to recover the land from the defaulting company, suddenly, accepted a fresh application from the same company which was processed by the Gujarat Maritime Board. It has now been realized that the Archian Company belonged to the family of Venkaiah Naidu and that was the reason for giving away 600 million square meter of virtually free Government land. Gujarat’s leading vernacular daily, Gujarat Samachar, reported on 30th January, 2014, that the Gujarat Maritime Board has given a “in-principle” sanction to the Company to build a 150 long Jetty at the Kori-creek in Kutchh.
The application for sanction of the Jetty is now pending in the office of the Chief Minister Mr. Modi. What has surprised most of the people is the way Government has overlooked the penalty clause and instead of recovering the land given originally, the Company is once again given a reward of a Jetty. The most shocking aspect of the new deal is the sensitivity of the Kori-creek area which is at Indo-Pak border and a dispute exists between the two countries regarding the creek!
The reason for this generosity of the Chief Minister towards Venkaiah is not very difficult to find. Since 2009, Modi had been facing the tough resistance from his mentor LK Advani and his close confidants in his march to reach the top . M Venkaiah Naidu, Sushma Swaraj, Ananth Kumar, the close confidants of L K Advani had refused to accept Modi as their super boss till the Parliamentary meeting on 13th September, 2013. Shri LK Advani as a protest refused to attend the meeting. Yet the meeting on 13th September,2013 that was attended by 10 of the 12 members of the Parliamentary Board namely, Rajnath Singh, Murli Manohar Joshi, M Venkaiah Naidu, Nitin Gadkari, Sushma Swaraj, Arun Jaitley, Narendra Modi, Ananth Kumar, Thawarchand Gehlot and Ramlal anointed Modi as the Prime Ministerial candidate of BJP. The resistance of the dissidents melted away as Modi waved his magic-wand.
Mr Venkaiah Naidu was perhaps the closest to Advani. As the former President of BJP, he did have a clout in BJP. On 30th August, 2009, Venkaiah Naidu, was quoted saying "Advaniji is the leader. He will continue to lead the party; there is no proposal to change anybody, we are surprised by these reports about succession plan, stepping down, appointment of new president, new leader, RSS dictation– all these things… are totally baseless. They are speculative and imaginative."
But Kori-creek tells the whole story. Quite apart from the inner party corruption, the nation deserves to know why a place as sensitive as Kori-creek is being handed over to a private company of Venkaiah Naidu? Can the security of the nation be bartered for the exchange of a vote for the Prime Ministerial candidate?
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Shall I also start posting all the Conspiracy theory laced Anti-Rahul Gandhi scandals here? What is the point of this post?
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Thanks for posting the Tehelka article. Since Tehelka is an out-and-out anti-BJP/anti-Modi/anti-Hindutva media it gives an idea of what the opposition is thinking. Their best bet is a turd-front backed by Congress Govt. Such an expt failed in 1996. Also Rahul does not seem to be as intelligent as the article suggests he is. At least we have not seen any evidence.
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For NM fans from South TN.... Tamil video Song on Modi with voter impacting visuals. Song named "A Lion has stepped Out"
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ADMIN NOTE - pls refrain from posting articles from CT/witch hunt sites here
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++786Hari Seldon wrote:Whoa...! fiery is as fiery does.... Says it like it is without batting an eyelid.... Gives voice, form and expression to raw emotion that doesn't show itself but that we all know is there.....
Lekhi garu's now my top choice for HRD mantri and I&B mantri both combined only.....
All said, I still think that while the odds favor an NDA sarkar, the odds are still kinda against NM becoming PM in 2014..... somehow... my anti-jinx mantra...
3 cheers for Ms. Lekhi. For years no one has dared to talk about sufferings of Hindus while on the bandwagon
of seeking apology for everyone else under the Sun.
Bless you Meenakshi Lekhi !!
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Why do we tolerate this nonsense from Meghnad Desai. If he had the guts to say something like this on Qoran, He would have been history, paid media would have tore his al-Brittany ass to shreds.astal wrote:Meghnad Desai is the guy who helped ghost write Gadhaffi's son's thesis. He is an academic version of Miley Cyrus. He had his moment of fame for being a good brown sahib. Now he will do anything to seek attention.
The fact that the Gita calls for violence when required, within the context of the Mahabharata to defeat a murderous rapist makes it all the more venerable.
That he is allowed to criticize the Gita without being subject to blasphemy laws or jihad speaks volumes about the freedom enjoyed by hindus and their critics.
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And as admitted, funded by Zero Loss Kapil Sibal.Supratik wrote:Thanks for posting the Tehelka article. Since Tehelka is an out-and-out anti-BJP/anti-Modi/anti-Hindutva media it gives an idea of what the opposition is thinking. Their best bet is a turd-front backed by Congress Govt. Such an expt failed in 1996. Also Rahul does not seem to be as intelligent as the article suggests he is. At least we have not seen any evidence.
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Congress has to be eliminated. It has subverted the nation. It's still doing that. Every dependency on congress will be compromised. De-mandalisation of Indian polity is gradually happening. So it rules out the long term survival of SP BSP types. The tragectory of the rashtra is taking a momentous turn.kmkraoind wrote:I have some questions, will any gurus answer them.
I have no doubts of NaMo's victory in 2014, but assuming that if Congress is decimated. Is it wise to continue weakened Congress or to completely eliminate it? If it is eliminated, who will fill that political vacuum. If the political vacuum is filled by rabid leftists and Islamists, is it good for India. Shall NaMo need to perform Janata Parivar type operation on Congress, so that each Cong satrap will fill that political vacuum.
I would like to draw your attention to this wonderful post by RudraDev Saheb.
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 20#p924420
This is how our future political trajectory should be defined. Not based on the old western definitions of right-left.
The important thing is this elimination of congress will bring in the right kind of opponents to the existing polity to the forefront. Who knows the right kind of replacement for the polity could very well arise from someone among us.
As Atri ji has said elsewhere the various 'मत' will eventual find their positions in the society I.e Astika and Nastika. These opponents are only in name and very subtly in ideology.
However it's important that the leader is dharmik in true sense imbibing the qualities like;
DHRITI,
KSHAMA,
DAMAH,
ASTYEYA,
SHAUCHA,
INDRYIA-NIGRAHA
DHEE,
VIDYA,
SATYAM,
AKRODHA
And it's important that the new leadership replacing the position of congress should fulfil these 10 essential requirements. This needs a whole sale cleansing which may take some time.
Perhaps there ought to be a examination to ensure the leaders fulfil these criteria? Or when the common populace is well educated in dharmik memes they will themselves judge the leader. Perhaps that day is not a long way off?
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Aditya_V wrote:And as admitted, funded by Zero Loss Kapil Sibal.Supratik wrote:Thanks for posting the Tehelka article. Since Tehelka is an out-and-out anti-BJP/anti-Modi/anti-Hindutva media it gives an idea of what the opposition is thinking. Their best bet is a turd-front backed by Congress Govt. Such an expt failed in 1996. Also Rahul does not seem to be as intelligent as the article suggests he is. At least we have not seen any evidence.
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Something is chronically diseased about Delhi. It has been seat of decadence for past 800 years. Now its moving to a whole new level. Some Bajirao should now sack delhi and cleanse her asap. Else she will be raped by some timurlame, nadirshah or abdali for much higher price. Mumbai is ugly, yes. But she is not diseased as delhi has become. This is not natural. This is not dharmik and Indian in origin. This disease in delhi is something much deeper.
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My question, who will fill that political space if Congress is completely decimated. Will it replace more anti-Indic leaning forces, if so, will it be better to keep Congress in a degraded form, rather than ceding that space to more rabid elements (like AAP). I have just recently watched movie, The Munich, where the lead character Avner says "Every man we've killed has been replaced by worse!" I am worried the same will happen in India today, Congress replacing much worse anti-Indic forces.panduranghari wrote:Congress has to be eliminated. It has subverted the nation. It's still doing that. Every dependency on congress will be compromised. De-mandalisation of Indian polity is gradually happening. So it rules out the long term survival of SP BSP types. The tragectory of the rashtra is taking a momentous turn.kmkraoind wrote:I have some questions, will any gurus answer them.
I have no doubts of NaMo's victory in 2014, but assuming that if Congress is decimated. Is it wise to continue weakened Congress or to completely eliminate it? If it is eliminated, who will fill that political vacuum. If the political vacuum is filled by rabid leftists and Islamists, is it good for India. Shall NaMo need to perform Janata Parivar type operation on Congress, so that each Cong satrap will fill that political vacuum.
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gandharva wrote:Sonia and Sheela are missing.
Here is the list of names Kejriwal presented at the meet:
Narendra Modi
Rahul Gandhi
Suresh Kalmadi
Nitin Gadkari
Sushil Kumar Shinde
Praful Patel
BS Yeddyurappa
Anant Kumar
Veerappa Moily
HD Kumaraswamy
P Chidambaram
Alagari
Kanimozhi
Salman Khurshid
Annu Tandon
A Raja
Tarun Gogoi
Kapil Sibal
Mayawati
Mulayam Singh
Sriprakash Jaiswal
Pawan Bansal
Farooq Abdullah
Naveen Jindal

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http://ibnlive.in.com/news/kejriwal-nam ... 37-64.html
List in this link doesnt have the name of NaMo and RaGa. Earlier NaMo was at the top followed by RaGa.
List in this link doesnt have the name of NaMo and RaGa. Earlier NaMo was at the top followed by RaGa.
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Both BJP and Congress might give surprises in TN
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Poor scared sharad pawar has come to this now... when last did you see any one leader so polarising, so distinct that his very presence or absence defines the contours of political debate? Not since IG has such happened IMO...
Sharad Pawar refutes report of secretly meeting Narendra Modi
My guess is pawar prolly met NM, secretly of course. With full confidence that CBI(B) and other agencies will relay this khabar to 10 john pat.
Sharad Pawar refutes report of secretly meeting Narendra Modi
My guess is pawar prolly met NM, secretly of course. With full confidence that CBI(B) and other agencies will relay this khabar to 10 john pat.
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I checked with someone in the know. Pawar has indeed met with Modi but doesn't know the details. Modi has blitzed the South. Just waiting for Modiji to declare India a dharmic or hindu country and slowly move towards a presidential system. I'm sure Shourie has advised him on this.
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Goebellsian indeed. the AAP party facebook page lists these worthies. notice no Namo, Raga or Soniaji there.
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In preparation for NM's Kolkata visit, lotus is releasing images from NM's last visit there - to Kalighat mandir and belur mutt.


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That's actually very well made. Slick. Has appropriate visuals for the words and context of song.Hari Seldon wrote:For NM fans from South TN.... Tamil video Song on Modi with voter impacting visuals. Song named "A Lion has stepped Out"
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Another well-made one that's going viral....

Nice tune. Wonder if sri Rocky Mittal has come up with anything of late. His 'Amritwani' was a treat indeed...The viral music video ‘Modi Aane Waala Hai’ made by Abeer Vajpayee and sung by Udit Narayan has become something of a trend in itself. In the last 2 days, it has been watched over 24,000 times on Youtube. The video is the latest Modi-related virtual product to have taken the web by storm.

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Congress' use of unconstitutional means and extra-judiciary influence is what is preventing many of the corrupt-politician announcing pre-poll alliances with BJP. It would be funny if in one week 7-8 prominent parties announce alliance with BJP. Would Congress suddenly hound all these parties? That would be spreading the butter too thin. Sending CBI and IT agents, slapping cases, using police ityadi would backfire on Congress.Hari Seldon wrote: My guess is pawar prolly met NM, secretly of course. With full confidence that CBI(B) and other agencies will relay this khabar to 10 john pat.
So if BJP is going to announce alliances, they could plan one after the other, have a blitz so that the media gets a couple of days to talk about it. As the noise dies, announce the next one and so on.
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This should be done delicately. We should have a proper immigration department with policing powers (new law if needed). We should have proper laws for people seeking asylum e.g. those facing religious, economic, social, political oppression. Murali, if you forward the suggestions please include the above.nageshks wrote: MuraliRavi-ji,
Why don't you propose this for NaMo rally in Guwahati on India272? They are asking public for suggestions for points to be covered by NaMo.
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Jai Ho! It's time we Hindus became unapologetic about our Dharmic roots and religion. Of course, this means that we are tolerant to other non Dharmic faiths as well but will not appease them like the Congress/SP has been doing for votes.RoyG wrote:I checked with someone in the know. Pawar has indeed met with Modi but doesn't know the details. Modi has blitzed the South. Just waiting for Modiji to declare India a dharmic or hindu country and slowly move towards a presidential system. I'm sure Shourie has advised him on this.
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I also like to put forward my views. B'cos of MNREGA there is labour shortage so we do need labour. So BJP should put forward something like work permit under unskilled category for Bangladesh as well as Burma. So instead of them illegaly crossing over we will have a controlled movement and we will get revenue from the visa fee. Also they would be eligible for citizenship after 10-15yrs if their record is good. If there is any criminal cases against them that will automatically disqualify them. If there is a way for obtaining residency legally this can prevent them getting voter card right after crossing and they will be concerned about behaving with civility b'cos of immigration threat.Supratik wrote:This should be done delicately. We should have a proper immigration department with policing powers (new law if needed). We should have proper laws for people seeking asylum e.g. those facing religious, economic, social, political oppression. Murali, if you forward the suggestions please include the above.nageshks wrote: MuraliRavi-ji,
Why don't you propose this for NaMo rally in Guwahati on India272? They are asking public for suggestions for points to be covered by NaMo.
I would like it to be done for Burmese as well so we dont have concentration of only one shade. If things work out good this can be extended to other east asian countries like Combodia and Loas so we can build a goodwill and trade with them.
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I saw the K-Turn's address live. He mentioned RaGa (that was the last name). He did not name NaMo. Then he left for a cabinet meeting. However, he did ask the others to add to the list. Maybe, the expanded list had other names.Singha wrote:Goebellsian indeed. the AAP party facebook page lists these worthies. notice no Namo, Raga or Soniaji there.
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I think work permits would require very strict border management. If the fellow can sneek in why would he want to go through the legal process. Also for Bdeshis we must be very selective. We cannot have Hindu ethnic cleansing and work permits at the same time. Illegals should be deported until Bdesh becomes a civilized place.
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Will do sir.nageshks wrote:MuraliRavi-ji,muraliravi wrote:We should all put pressure on the next government to create a new ministry for border fencing and immigration. high priority should be eastern front fencing and removal proceedings. The ministry should submit a monthly report on fencing and deportations. The MHA has proven clearly inept at this task
Why don't you propose this for NaMo rally in Guwahati on India272? They are asking public for suggestions for points to be covered by NaMo.