AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

bhavani · Post by **bhavani** » 13 Feb 2014 22:56

Narayana Rao wrote:So coastal areas and Rayalaseema goes for Jagan with EJ and Hyd and T regions for the faithfuls. Great return for Telugu people for supporting anti national forces at Delhi and anti Indic forces in the state. I am still surprised to see Jagan projected to win 13 seats. Why are people going to vote for him I am not sure. but if this is true then Telugu people deserve what they are getting.

I really doubt if Jagan will win 13 seats. He has been real silent and a lot of folks feel that he is in Co-hoots with Sonia Gandhi. There are rumors that Kiran Kumar reddy might float his own party and leave Congress. Lagadapti and KKR are now being seen as the main proponents of United Andhra.

In fact most of Seem Andhra folk now think that, Telangana is inevitable, But want a fair revenue sharing agreement and water sharing agreement. If NaMo can bring together all and get an agreement, all the Protests from seema andhra folk would stop.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 13 Feb 2014 22:59

vivek.rao wrote: Exactly. The idea of D4 is to deliver Telangana to SONIA and Andhra to Jagan so that Modi falls short and SS can take over

Seriously, we cannot pin everything on the 'D4'. Modi has such a clout these days all he has to do is give out his opinion and take a stance. What D4 thinks will take the second place. BJP has been always for smaller states.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 13 Feb 2014 23:07

RGV is a close friend and engineering classmate of Lagadapati Rajgopal

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 13 Feb 2014 23:08

kmkraoind wrote:
ShankarCag wrote:Who is the receipient of Jairam's affections?
V. Hanumantha Rao, a Telangana RS MP, ex-APCC president.

So why would Jairam Ramesh show his love for V.H. Rao who is from Telangana? Arent they both for Telangana to be separated?

Note the johlawala bag on Ramesh shoulder!

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 13 Feb 2014 23:17

ramana wrote:
kmkraoind wrote:Who is the receipient of Jairam's affections?
V. Hanumantha Rao, a Telangana RS MP, ex-APCC president.

So why would Jairam Ramesh show his love for V.H. Rao who is from Telangana? Arent they both for Telangana to be separated?

Note the johlawala bag on Ramesh shoulder!

Ramana Sir,
I got image from https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/statu ... 3142909952 caption says "Jairam Ramesh sharing a light moment with V. Hanamuntha Rao"

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 13 Feb 2014 23:28

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 13 Feb 2014 23:30

a_bharat · Post by **a_bharat** » 13 Feb 2014 23:59

Bravo Rajgopal !!

For all those non-telugus who are amused/appalled/ashamed, I say, go jump in a lake.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 14 Feb 2014 00:06

a_bharat wrote:Bravo Rajgopal !!

For all those non-telugus who are amused/appalled/ashamed, I say, go jump in a lake.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 14 Feb 2014 00:17

Published on Feb 14 2014
By P S Jayaram
Telangana row: Indian MPs go on a rampage

Some Arab newspapers demolishing AP heroes

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 14 Feb 2014 00:24

gandharva wrote:

Bhagat Singh and Nehru are doing Palabhishekam to Indira Gandhi.

I don't know Lagadapati got elevated to Bhagat Singh level or he brought Bhagat Singh to Vijayawada Goonda level. Cry real Bhagat Singh!

Rony wrote:

They should add Sushma in the side as keep.

a_bharat · Post by **a_bharat** » 14 Feb 2014 00:40

^^^Forgive him for displaying the typical congi trait of sycophancy. (Actually the above ksheerabhishekam may be in the context of recognizing IG's contribution in keeping AP united).

But the pepper spray -- desperate times call for desperate measures. Actually, there were statements/rumors of some MPs committing suicide inside parliament to prevent the bifurcation. Apparently they chickened out.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 14 Feb 2014 00:56

nageshks wrote:
ShyamSP wrote: I said many months ago this is exactly what they are doing - to make T as their Adda. In case of defeat iin elections T can act as shield.
A Q. for you ShyamSP-ji. The MIM is spreading its tentacles, even into Secunderabad and neighbouring areas like Mahbubnagar. Can they be crushed by the BJP-TDP alliance in the coming elections if Telangana is not formed? Or will they still win? I am not talking about Hyderabad where Muslims are majority, but neighbouring areas like Secunderabad cantonment, etc.

Without answering directly let me give you some examples on how good Hyderabadi "BJP" wallas and Andhra people conditioned them.
* There were riots in Hyderabad in a year in 80s and our hostel rooms were to isolated side facing MIM ghetto area in 1/2 km at campus border. We were supplied bamboo sticks by "student" wing veterans and asked to keep iron rods which weren't get to be used fortunately.
* I went to shopping in a core "MIM" area, I was attempting to speak in broken Hyderabadi in a muslim shop to buy some goods. My friend told me to speak in good Telugu. Suddenly enormous respect and good bargain were shown.

It is not MIM but Congress-MIM that is danger. If you understand "Andhra wallo bago" has much more context. Those words are uttered through puppets than masters directly.

nageshks wrote:
There was rush to give investments in huge sums for Hyderabad.

All these criminal strategies are there. BJP is acting as partner in allowing them to do these make T a Congress zone by voting for it.
There are many things at work here, mainly pressure from the useless Telangana BJP cadre (What did they do all these years? They don't even get as many votes as MIM) and some personal egos involved. But in the end, the BJP will most likely vote against the Bill. LKA spoke against it today, and even SS seems to be backtracking about Telangana.

Secondly, my main grouse against CBN is that he did not do anything against EJs when he (and even NTR, for that matter) were in power. Is there anything to show he is rethinking about the EJs now? After all, EJs are his political enemies now, supporting Jagan. If you have any links that CBN will act against EJs, please add them. You can add Telugu links, I do understand Telugu reasonably.

EJs don't need CBN or YSR, both know how to handle them. CBN propped one joker as EJ front and wasted their money. YSR himself thru relatives gobbled up their money. If Jagan inherits YSR thinking he is no issue also and it is good if he can gooble up converted votes.

It is not CBN or YSR that are danger to Seemandhra but INC-EJs combo is. That combo will become even more poisonous given INC gave up Seemandhra and will attempt to keep EJ votebank for future use.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 14 Feb 2014 02:31

RajeshA wrote: Some Arab newspapers demolishing AP heroes

Obviously they are concerned about Telangana. MIM-TRS alliance in telangana is funded by arab money

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 14 Feb 2014 03:08

Govt knew about scuffle in Lok Sabha in advance.

Govt was warned of trouble, but pepper spray sprang a surprise

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new ... 83550.aspx

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 14 Feb 2014 04:17

What a U turn from a person who was a staunch congressman few months ago. He is talking like a BJP person

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 14 Feb 2014 04:18

gandharva wrote:

weren't some people here making fun of some moron T-vadis who built a temple for Sonia? well, now we have the braveheart Lagadapati doing abhishekam to Indira.

we should all look in the mirror. we will see each other.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 14 Feb 2014 04:23

Rony wrote:
RajeshA wrote: Some Arab newspapers demolishing AP heroes
Obviously they are concerned about Telangana. MIM-TRS alliance in telangana is funded by arab money

not so sure about that. even just a month ago, Akbarudding was not very enthusiastic about Telangana.

in all this drama, not once has MIM come out and openly supported Telangana. come on, Ashrafs, take a stand. you have martial blood in you. show us South Indians how it's done.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 14 Feb 2014 04:26

Rony wrote:What a U turn from a person who was a staunch congressman few months ago. He is talking like a BJP person

Lagadapati is a crony capitalist of the highest order. all those who go with him will drown with him. he's not NTR or CBN. those guys are actual politicians. even if CBN is flawed and vacillating, he still has that Nayakatva instinct. Lagadapati is more about his personal business than anything else.

not that he doesn't have the right to express his opinion on Samaikhyandhra; but he is not NTR. or any other LEADER worth his salt.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 14 Feb 2014 05:05

Khaleej Times wrote:“Why did Manmohan Singh have a luncheon meeting with BJP leaders when my party describes them as communal elements? When the state is being divided, it should be the people of the state who should be consulted,” the rebellious chief minister said.

So does he agree with the description of "his" party or not? For all practical purposes, it is not his party any more.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 14 Feb 2014 05:10

devesh wrote: in all this drama, not once has MIM come out and openly supported Telangana. come on, Ashrafs, take a stand. you have martial blood in you. show us South Indians how it's done.

They are too shrewd to come out openly at this point and will let TRS do all the talking and congress all the acting.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 14 Feb 2014 05:41

Congress can never form a state by following due process. It has to come only by tricks. See now they have to lift Union Ministers and throw them out. That will be next history. The suspended MPs are non ministers. Some who will create next chaos are union ministers.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 14 Feb 2014 06:00

a_bharat wrote:^^^Forgive him for displaying the typical congi trait of sycophancy. (Actually the above ksheerabhishekam may be in the context of recognizing IG's contribution in keeping AP united).

But the pepper spray -- desperate times call for desperate measures. Actually, there were statements/rumors of some MPs committing suicide inside parliament to prevent the bifurcation. Apparently they chickened out.

So you want them to commit suicide?

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 14 Feb 2014 06:19

What happend to Arnab tonight? I have not seen him but people are saying he changed behaviour in the middle of the programme.

a_bharat · Post by **a_bharat** » 14 Feb 2014 06:51

SwamyG wrote:
a_bharat wrote:^^^Forgive him for displaying the typical congi trait of sycophancy. (Actually the above ksheerabhishekam may be in the context of recognizing IG's contribution in keeping AP united).

But the pepper spray -- desperate times call for desperate measures. Actually, there were statements/rumors of some MPs committing suicide inside parliament to prevent the bifurcation. Apparently they chickened out.
So you want them to commit suicide?

No. I was just making an observation.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 14 Feb 2014 07:59

Dasari · Post by **Dasari** » 14 Feb 2014 10:36

Congress is taking this as very prestigious issue and whether BJP supports or not they want to pass it with voice vote. First they think that enough number of anti T supporters were suspended, and with little floor mgt they can manage the numbers. Since they need to get only 50% of the members attending the parliament session, they can manage better than the opponents in making sure that all Pro T supporters are there. Even if all BJP members are there, they need to get every anti T vote to surpass congress numbers. Congress will do hectic lobbying next three days. Second, they think that with the perception that congress can win even without BJP support, BJP will panic by the fear of being left out, and vote for the bill. This was evident from the tone of kamalnath and the language of TRS and Congress leaders.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 14 Feb 2014 10:57

Dasari wrote:Congress is taking this as very prestigious issue and whether BJP supports or not they want to pass it with voice vote. First they think that enough number of anti T supporters were suspended, and with little floor mgt they can manage the numbers. Since they need to get only 50% of the members attending the parliament session, they can manage better than the opponents in making sure that all Pro T supporters are there. Even if all BJP members are there, they need to get every anti T vote to surpass congress numbers. Congress will do hectic lobbying next three days. Second, they think that with the perception that congress can win even without BJP support, BJP will panic by the fear of being left out, and vote for the bill. This was evident from the tone of kamalnath and the language of TRS and Congress leaders.

Dasari garu, As I said earlier Congress wants BJP to commit to T (possible 0 seats for BJP) or Seemandhra (possible 25 seats for BJP+TDP). Congress gave up Seemandhra so they are hoping Jagan can fetch some seats and rebel Congress can keep some votebanks for future.

BJP going with T means there is no open alliance with TDP. Congress kills two birds - pushes BJP to get 0 seats and reduces TDP power to sweep.

Unfortunately BJP is under Maya of Delhi thinking can't see beyond. It can't even recognize that they are failures with Telangana strategy. They couldn't social-engineer Telangana despite their wanting to grant state. Congress on the other hand social-engineered T for more than a decade to their advantage and the same time in a few months they social-engineered Seemandhra as aggrieved and rebels.

Even TDP will have to sail through troubles in Seemandhra as emotions will run high during elections. Jagan/YSRC will be happy camper because in all this his corruption is not an issue. So is INC because Hazare / BJP anti-corruption will be NON issue.

AP+Karnataka+MH+Kerala can fetch 75-80 seats for Congress. Only Rajastan will be big blow to them compared to 2009

Dasari · Post by **Dasari** » 14 Feb 2014 11:46

I agree completely. They had a fantastic chance last week and beginning of this week to champion SA cause and have all the 14 suspended MPs behind them. But now it is beyond their hands. They lost 14 anti T bill MPs. Congress is determined to bulldoze it with or without BJP support. By next week this time, the bill will be passed. As you eluded, nobody can afford to align with BJP, if they pass the bill.

member_28352 · Post by **member_28352** » 14 Feb 2014 11:51

Where is Ram Madhav from? T or SA?

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 14 Feb 2014 12:00

Dasari wrote:I agree completely. They had a fantastic chance last week and beginning of this week to champion SA cause and have all the 14 suspended MPs behind them. But now it is beyond their hands. They lost 14 anti T bill MPs. Congress is determined to bulldoze it with or without BJP support. By next week this time, the bill will be passed. As you eluded, nobody can afford to align with BJP, if they pass the bill.

Speaker can suspend them. House can undo the speaker's suspensions.

BJP can take up the issue of Congress using MPs as Marshalls and ask those MPs to be suspended also. BJP can undo the suspensions of these 14 under the guise of what they did was self-defense.

But for all these things BJP needs guts to handle Parliament. Instead yesterday they were like headless chickens criticizing those MPs that benefit them instead of Congress. Sushma, Advani, Rajnath are all out of sync in their messages and couldn't handle Congress.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Feb 2014 13:40

MMS and eyetalian mafiosi cannot claim ignorance

Exclusive: How Congress pre-planned the action-drama today

A Congress MP reveals to Sheela Bhatt the Congress plan to protect the Speaker and home minister and provide muscle to push through the tabling of the Telangana bill in Parliament.

Komatireddy Raj Gopal Reddy, the Congress Member of Parliament from the Bhongir Lok Sabha constituency near Hyderabad, is a staunch supporter of the creation of Telangana.

The MP told Rediff.com in an exclusive interview that on Thursday morning he and other Telangana MPs from the Congress met Parliamentary Affairs Minister Kamal Nath in his parliamentary office. Home Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde was also present at the meeting, at around 10.15 am.

Reddy, a young and well-built man, says the party discussed how to protect Shinde and Speaker Meira Kumar from aggressive MPs of the Congress and Telugu Desam Party from the Seema-Andhra region, who are against the creation of Telangana.

All of them, he claims, were aware of the plans of the anti-Telangana MPs to disrupt Parliament so they wanted to ensure security for Shinde and Kumar.

The idea of using elected representatives for security was devised because the Speaker refused to deploy Lok Sabha marshals inside the House to provide security.

At the meeting, it was decided they would adopt the same strategy that was adopted on Wednesday when Railway Minister M Mallikarjuna Kharge was not allowed to read out the Rail Budget, but could still present the budget officially.

Today, the MPs under Kamal Nath's leadership decided that the Telangana bill would be presented amid the chaos.

The plan was conceived and executed by Kamal Nath, says Reddy.

Shinde was required to be physically protected and not the other ministers because he was to table the bill. He was to be given a couple of minutes to read out the bill before tabling it.

The Speaker's presence was essential to ensure that it could be announced that the bill had been officially tabled.

Kamal Nath, an eight-time MP, knows the tricks of the trade. He chalked out the plan to assign young able-bodied MPs to provide security and muscle to table the Telangana bill. Reddy admits that he has done such things in his college days.

Mohammad Azharuddin, Raj Babbar, Arun Yadav, Manik Tagore, Vijayashanti, Ashok Tanwar and Reddy created a ring around Shinde and Meira Kumar's table on Kamal Nath's instructions.

They were supposed to use muscle power to ensure that the Telangana bill could be tabled in the quickest possible time and the Congress could claim victory.

Read the interview with Komatireddy Raj Gopal Reddy later today.
Sheela Bhatt in New Delhi

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 14 Feb 2014 15:18

The problem for BJP is that should they not support Telangana Bill, and it does get passed, then Telangana becomes the exclusive preserve of TRS+Congress+MIM for the next 20 years.

In the next 20 years this coalition can ensure that the transformation of Telangana to Razakaristan is complete, something on the lines of West Bengal, where the Muslims are 30% but there is hardly a non-Muslim leader there who takes up the cause of Hindus, and the way WB is becoming the strategic depth of Bangladesh.

In Seemandhra it may be possible for BJP to bolster TDP and to chain it to Hindutva at the national level to fight off the Christianist YSRCP. However there would be no similar strategy in Telangana, should BJP not support Telangana.

It seems more and more clear that BJP has missed the bus to collect the Samaikyandhra legislators, and that in spite of supporting Telangana, BJP may still draw a blank in Telangana. At least this time around.

The danger is that NDA may become dependent on "secular" parties like YSRCP at the center, and so one can forget cutting off of conversion money flowing into the country.

Telangana needs a Shiv Sena type party with a BT leading it.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 14 Feb 2014 16:20

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 14 Feb 2014 16:54

RajeshA wrote:
Telangana needs a Shiv Sena type party with a BT leading it.

Sir in Maharashtra, the Hindus have pride in their identity and the ones who werent already crossed over to Buddhism. BT had a big base as a result. RSS birthplace was Maharashtra. I have seen even Brahmins and other so called forward castes support Jagan Reddy and are in awe of him. One Sri. Samveda Sharma garu who is famous for pravachanas once alighted from auto and saw photos of YSR and cross symbol in it, the driver was a Hindu! he mentioned it in one of the pravachanas. One IT/VITY Brahmin manager from my office who is from HYD speaks in Urdu most of the time and fondly speaks of Nawabs and Bavarchi Biriyani. What do you do these chaps, these are the ones who will vote for EJ backers.

The second and third states to be fastest towards Christianization will be Tamil Nadu and Andhra, mark my words! The people of these places deserve it totally!

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 14 Feb 2014 17:48

Congress rings in Kiran for a patch-up ahead of Telangana debate in Parliament

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 358832.cms

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 14 Feb 2014 18:38

Yogi_G wrote:
RajeshA wrote:The second and third states to be fastest towards Christianization will be Tamil Nadu and Andhra, mark my words! The people of these places deserve it totally!

We can't leave it like that. Every problem has a solution.What is the solution for Christianization of Andhra ?

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 14 Feb 2014 18:51

ShankarCag wrote:Where is Ram Madhav from? T or SA?

He is pure SA. Godavari Dt origin

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 14 Feb 2014 18:55

TDP's Somireddy says that Sonia is ready to break India and then flee to Italy, calls Kamalnath as "Goonda nath" who is not fit to be a parliamentary minister

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 14 Feb 2014 19:12

The church has effectively highjacked the Valentine's day in Hyderabad and Visakhapatnam and calls for "lovers rights" as ABVP displays its stupidity by patrolling the parks and embarrassing the "lovers". The media narrative is Church = lovers rights, liberal etc , ABVP = fundamentalist organization .