Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 19 Feb 2014 15:21

Listen to what the TTP has to say about the Qaid e Azam @ 1:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNQz3hD-3Io

sudhan · Post by **sudhan** » 19 Feb 2014 16:37

^^ Can't access Jootube, could you please summarize?

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 19 Feb 2014 16:41

They call him Kaafir e azam from day 1. Pakistani army responsible for shaheedization of all mosques in Pakistan. No Aman or chain in Pakiland until Sharia is implemented in letter and spirit.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 19 Feb 2014 17:21

Paul, kafir-e-azam was coined by one of the twin pillars of jihadi Islamism of the last century, Maulana ala al Mawdudi (the other being Syed Qutb). This title has also been adopted by Jama'at-Ulema-e-Islam whose current chief, Fazl-ur-Rehman, refuses to sport a picture of Jinnah in his office in the National Assembly (he is also the Kashmir Committee chief of the Government of Pakistan) and he openly refuses to accept Jinnah as the Father of the Nation. I am sure that Maulana Sandwich, who also belongs to Jama'at-Ulema-e-Islam (but to his own faction), subscribes to this view. There is no surprise that the Taliban sport the same opinion as after all their mentors have held the view since before Independence.

sudhan · Post by **sudhan** » 19 Feb 2014 18:11

Thanks, Paul!

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 19 Feb 2014 21:05

Even India didn’t slaughter Pakistani prisoners, says Rashid – but Pakistan killed Lieutenant Saurabh Kalia

ISLAMABAD : Federal Information Minister Pervaiz Rashid has said that the government would make its decision after getting a briefing from its negotiating committee on the Taliban’s stance.

Talking to journalists here Wednesday, the federal information minister said that there were 90,000 Pakistani prisoners in Indian jails, however, the neighbouring country didn’t slaughter them like the Taliban.

Pakistan also kept Indian prisoners in its custody and they were treated as per Islamic teachings i.e. were captured alive and kept in captivity where they were tortured and their bodies mutilated, Rashid said.

He asked those who called for enforcement of Shariah in the country if the slaughtering of 23 FC personnel in the Taliban custody was in accordance with the Shariah. Slaughter of Pakistani Army. Air Force, Navy, Frontier and Police Forces is fully compliant with Sharia.

The information minister said that the defence institutions have obtained best results in responding to all the challenges including the country’s border security.

Pervaiz Rashid further said that Pakistan tops the list of United Nations’ international peacekeeping force.

“Those forces who could maintain peace abroad can also establish peace in Pakistan,” he added.

Cheers

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 19 Feb 2014 21:09

mushy in and out of court with legal process obfuscating and heart not fluctuating, omar saed shaikh tries to commit soosai in jail... so much fun news from pureland

saip · Post by **saip** » 19 Feb 2014 21:13

Tomorrow's Dawn's headline:

Pakistan beats India in Sochi Olympics in Giant Slalom!

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 19 Feb 2014 21:51

Paul wrote:Listen to what the TTP has to say about the Qaid e Azam @ 1:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNQz3hD-3Io

Pakistanis have no right to refuse sharia. They are an Islamic state.

But 1000 years ago, the people of that area simply capitulated and embraced Islam. But they have practised dilute Islam. The Taliban are telling them what it should really be like and I am pretty sure that Pakis will capitulate again.

Any Pakistani who opposes the Taliban is defnitely a kafir. He could be allowed into a temple (whose deities feel no threat from any being), but should not be allowed to go for Haj, which is not for kafirs. Pakistan should be an example for Islam just the way the Taliban believe the faith to be. For too long Pakis have hidden behind the excuse that since they fight Indian kafrs they must be reeeeally good Muslims. But the Taliban are simply correcting them and teaching them the right things.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 19 Feb 2014 22:17

As we go on living closed lives

If they have the ability, it must be shown now. Otherwise, we will not be wrong in thinking that they are equally fearful and unable to take on the forces of terror. If that is the case, rather than conducting dialogue and wasting time while people keep getting killed, an instrument of surrender should be prepared by the state, presented to the terrorists and signed accordingly. I still remember the photograph of Gen Niazi and Gen Aurora from 1971.

Cheers

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 19 Feb 2014 22:18

so, 40 years ago the TFTA pakjabis believed that their SDRE co-religionists in the ganga-brahmaputra delta region to be less pious and more or less kaffir, and therefore they were entitled to bull-cutlet them en masse (even if most of the ones they did cutlet were actually real kaffirs)
and now the talibunnies have deemed the pakjabis of the indus basin to be less pious and more or less kaffir, and therefore the pakjabis should understand that they are in line for en masse bull cutletting
the wheel turns full circle...

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 19 Feb 2014 22:34

Lalmohan wrote:so, 40 years ago the TFTA pakjabis believed that their SDRE co-religionists in the ganga-brahmaputra delta region to be less pious and more or less kaffir, and therefore they were entitled to bull-cutlet them en masse (even if most of the ones they did cutlet were actually real kaffirs)
and now the talibunnies have deemed the pakjabis of the indus basin to be less pious and more or less kaffir, and therefore the pakjabis should understand that they are in line for en masse bull cutletting
the wheel turns full circle...

Long ago I had created a "graphic" - just a horizontal line actually, with "islamists" on the left end and kafirs on the right end and points marked on the line for those who were not wholly Islamists and not totally kafir. Somewhere in the middle of that line was the demarcation between India and Pakistan. The "more Islamic/less kafir" people on the Pakistan side of that point were not too much different from the less Islamic/more kafir Indians on the India side of that point on the line. It was the "idea of Pakistan" that decided that everyone on the Pakistani side was wholly islamic and everyone on the Indian side was either fully kafir or a suppressor of Muslims.

GIGO is one of the best expressions to come out of the computer age and it could not have been more right about the idea of Pakistan. It was garbage to start with, painted green with a white crescent moon. And the garbage was armed and funded by the victors of WW2. That is why it survived so long.

We don't really want Pakistanis in India but there may come a time when India might have to absorb Pakis and the territory to the east of the Indus. I don't see that time coming soon, but I don't see that as an impossibility. It may be something we have to think about.

It is difficult to tell the extent to which history repeats itself, but the people of Afghanistan (and for that matter the Pashtun lands) have either dominated the Punjab, or have been paid off by the power ruling Punjab to stay away. Pakistan is unable to pay them off any more and they have scented blood.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 19 Feb 2014 22:41

One last thought before I hit the sack. If Pakistani Punjab gets the Kashmir valley and still has access to the sea via Sindh, they can simply say fukoff to the people on the west of the Indus and still have a beautiful, fertile, productive land. That is why Kashmir is so important to the Pakjabi.

But there is no natural barrier between that entity and the Indian hinterland, and it would be endless trouble for India. For India the best border is at the east bank of the Indus.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 19 Feb 2014 23:02

and the defense of the indus lies between the oxus and jaxartes

disha · Post by **disha** » 19 Feb 2014 23:03

shiv wrote: We don't really want Pakistanis in India but there may come a time when India might have to absorb Pakis and the territory to the east of the Indus. I don't see that time coming soon, but I don't see that as an impossibility. It may be something we have to think about.

One sanitizes a home and removes all pest infestation before moving into that home. That requires planning and budget. I just hope we have a plan in place to plan and budget this next step. A plan to plan sort off.

And this was predicted on the very BRF forums way back in 2000s. That what bakis require is more Islam and it will be given to them. And now they are getting more Islam.

It is difficult to tell the extent to which history repeats itself, but the people of Afghanistan (and for that matter the Pashtun lands) have either dominated the Punjab, or have been paid off by the power ruling Punjab to stay away. Pakistan is unable to pay them off any more and they have scented blood.

Pakjabis are caught between the hammer and anvil. Subhanallah.

disha · Post by **disha** » 19 Feb 2014 23:04

Lalmohan wrote:and the defense of the indus lies between the oxus and jaxartes

And the defense between oxus and jaxartes is not a millitaristic defense but a free passage of trade to link the silk-route back into India. A full passage of goods and free flow of ideas all the way to samarkand.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 19 Feb 2014 23:06

btw - what are the vedic names of the oxus and jaxartes?

disha · Post by **disha** » 19 Feb 2014 23:12

shiv wrote:... and these anal cysts claim that just because Masood Azhar "resurfaced" it means more attacks are going to occur. Attacks on India can occur any time.today,

Not to take away from your excellent analysis - however I do want to claim for the word "anal cysts". Got me almost banned.

disha · Post by **disha** » 19 Feb 2014 23:16

Lalmohan wrote:btw - what are the vedic names of the oxus and jaxartes?

Vaksh/Vaksu -> Oxus

Syr/(Kur) -> Jaxartes

(the one in bracket is my interpretation., using PIE techniques -> Cyrus -> Kurous -> Kur., hey I have every right to invent etymologies - better than the PIE anal cysts!)

disha · Post by **disha** » 19 Feb 2014 23:26

shiv wrote: As long as they do what we want they are our allies. The day they do something that is against our interests like befriending the US or the Paki army, the Taliban can be added to our list of enemies.

Is this so difficult to understand?

IMO, Taliban controlling Karachi and the corridor to Peshawar is a good thing to India as long as they are amenable to allow trade to flourish between India all the way to Kabul and thence forward.

I would rather deal with Talibunnies, than pakjabis. Pakjabis should simply be cutoff from access to a port and should be land locked.

Let Massa choose sides., it will be interesting to see if Massa abandons pakjabis (it will!) and pick up Talibunnies as allies (not if, but when).

Talibunnies being a practical lot (and not into the kind of pak-jabi koolaid) *will* allow all trade to flourish as long as they get their cut and as long as they can stave off or kick pakjabis.

This is a turnaround - in the Great Game II, Talibunnies are the new knights and Pakjabis the new pawns (earlier, the pakjabis were using others as their pawns).

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 20 Feb 2014 00:58

Confusion Of Paki Arabian-Penis-ullah Drip Irrigantion O-rigin
The illusion of identity

Leave aside the multitudes of illiterates or semi-illiterates; do the highly-educated people of our nation have the minutest of an idea who they really are; which stock they really belong to; what are the wonders that their ancestors have done in so many fields over thousands of years? But here arises a question: Who were their ancestors? Were they Al Khwarizmis, Al Berunis or were they Mahaviras, Ashokas, etc.?Ours may be the only nation where the sense of ancestry is sickeningly mistaken, thanks to our unbounded hatred towards everything that is Indian. Intense propaganda through distorted curricula and censored media, coupled with intellectual and moral barrenness over decades, has given rise to this sorry state of affairs. Consequently, there is a complete blackout of history spanning several millennia from the Indus Valley Civilisation to the conquest of Sindh by our textbook hero, Muhammad bin Qasim.
A marvellous treasure of preserved history containing records of wonderful philosophies, civilisations, religions, empires, belonging to the same racial stock that predominantly inhabits Pakistan and having originated from the same territories that now constitute Pakistan, has been buried far away from our collective intellect. ( But You Got Asli Malsi) Due to ill-perceived danger to the religion of Pakistanis, they, since the inception of the young state, have not been allowed the luxury of learning about their own history. They have been deprived of the pride of the countless glories of their past just because they belong to the period preceding the advent of Islam. A few couplets of our highly revered poet, with which it is not very fashionable to disagree, successfully diverted the genealogical lineage of all the inhabitants of the new state, including that of the poet’s own (as his own forefathers were Kashmiri Brahmins before converting to Islam) from India to Central Asia or Middle East. And that imaginary transmigration of ancestry actually did take place in the minds of fellow countrymen without any historical or genealogical basis. The irony gets even worse, when one tastes the sense of racial superiority and arrogance of the Middle Eastern and Central Asian progeny of our imaginary foreskinnedfathers.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 20 Feb 2014 01:28

Jhujar wrote:Former PCB chairman calls Big Three 'sons of pigs'
Thanks Allah, He did not say Paki ki Awlad

Lahore- Former PCB chairman Ijaz Butt has termed Indian, Australian and English cricket boards as ‘sons of pigs’.Talking to media after meeting with PCB chairman Najam Sethi, Butt said Pakistan should safeguard its interests in the current situation.“Should I reply in Punjabi or in English as my Urdu is not so good, if you ask me about Big-3 then I would say these three are sons of pigs” Butt replied while answering to a journalist’s question regarding the Big-3.Ex-chairman advised the journalists to give good suggestions to Najam Sethi instead of criticizing him.
PCB chairman Najam Sethi said the interest of Pakistan would be protected at every level.
He said consultation with former board chairmen would continue to make appropriate strategy on the issue of Big-3.Sethi said the Big-3 will have to listen to our point of view if they are looking for our vote at ICC.

With a name spelld like that in PInglish!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 20 Feb 2014 01:30

I got my Mullah Omars confused.....

partha · Post by **partha** » 20 Feb 2014 02:14

ramanaji,

I think you are confusing this Mullah Omar with Afghan Taliban Mullah Omar. Different persons.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 20 Feb 2014 02:19

I got my Omars confused!!!

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 20 Feb 2014 03:50

Joh international cricket mein g***u, who domestic cricket mein bhi g***u. The batsmen were getting out deliberately: Basit Ali.

Bakistan on Tuesday said it would investigate allegations of match fixing in a domestic Twenty20 match last week

"I saw that batsmen were getting out deliberately and then Sialkot did not try to defend the total by bowling non-regular bowlers"

Led by former bakistan captain Shoaib Malik, Sialkot lost the match by six wickets

Match fixing has long haunted bakistan cricket.

partha · Post by **partha** » 20 Feb 2014 03:55

^
IPL to blame. If Yindia had allowed Sialkot players to make money by including them in IPL, they would have never fixed matches.

btw, what's the opinion of Sania bhabhi about her husband's team indulging in match fixing?

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 20 Feb 2014 03:56

disha wrote:
Lalmohan wrote:btw - what are the vedic names of the oxus and jaxartes?
Vaksh/Vaksu -> Oxus

Syr/(Kur) -> Jaxartes

(the one in bracket is my interpretation., using PIE techniques -> Cyrus -> Kurous -> Kur., hey I have every right to invent etymologies - better than the PIE anal cysts!)

I think both are derivatives of name Vakshu OR Yakshu. Avestans called the river Yakshaarte. similar to our Yaksha. either they were not two separate rivers then OR our ancestors did not bother to mention the second river (too north).

But yes, Vakshu is our outpost. Paariyatra ranges (called hindukush - hindu-killer post gazni) is the outer frontier and Sindhu is the inner frontier. Anything to east of Sindhu is heartland and non-negotiable.

kenop · Post by **kenop** » 20 Feb 2014 04:13

Slumabad latest

ISLAMABAD: A report prepared by the Interior Ministry has declared the capital city as 'extremely dangerous' due to the presence and functioning of banned outfits along with other factors, Geo News reported.
According to the report, the capital city is at high risk and has become the sleeper cell of the banned organization members including Al-Qaeda, Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and Lashkar-e-Jahngvi (LeJ).
The report further stated that arms and terrorists are making their way into the country through Eastern and Western borders which is why cross border terrorists are also conducting terror activities in Pakistan.
Moreover, the report stated that Balochistan and Azad Kashmir are plagued by terrorism sponsored by the neighboring India.
Banned outfits of TTP and LeJ are a real threat in Punjab while the target killers, Al-Qaeda and LeJ are targeting Sindh.
The Interior Ministry report will be presented before the standing committee of National Assembly today.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 20 Feb 2014 04:20

A paki is what a paki does

http://www.dawn.com/news/1088094/safric ... protesters

CULLINAN: Police said Wednesday they have arrested a Pakistani man accused of opening fire on a crowd of protesters in a South African town east of Pretoria and injuring several people.

Township residents hurled rocks and barricaded roads protesting the murder of a boy allegedly beaten to death with a golf club by a Pakistani shop owner.

“The boy was assaulted by one of the Pakistanis allegedly because he was stealing sweets,” said the police.

“He died in hospital yesterday.”

Residents went on the rampage overnight, ransacking around 15 foreign-owned shops, according to police.

“One Pakistani guy was trying to get out of the protest area, and he was firing shots towards the protesters,” police spokeswoman Marissa van der Merwe told AFP.

The suspect was arrested.

Police said both South Africans and Pakistanis had been wounded in the clashes, but did not give specific numbers.

With poverty rife and unemployment and widespread, frustration in South Africa's run-down neighbourhoods often boils over into anti-immigrant violence.

An explosion of deadly attacks in 2008 killed more than 60 people and displaced thousands into refugee-style camps.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 20 Feb 2014 05:10

This Jihadi Sethi's towel is a must read

http://www.thefridaytimes.com/tft/war-or-peace/

Since the last All Parties Conference was held in Islamabad on September 9, 2013, to back a resolution for initiating peace talks with the Taliban, 313 people have been killed and over 400 injured in Taliban attacks on security agencies, political leaders and lay civilians in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa alone.

Much more ominously, the Aga Khan Foundation of the Ismailis is targeted for reprisals. “The Aga Khan Foundation is running 16 schools and 16 colleges and hostels where young men and women are given free education and brainwashed to keep them away from Islam”, says the accusing video

Aga Khan 1947 university should rename itself to AK47 University and hand out only halal education.

But the same Sethi was for all peace talks between India and Pakistan when terrorism from Pakistan was continuing

http://www.najamsethi.com/india%E2%80%99s-error/

Seen in this context, the current poverty of philosophy in India is both self-insulting and self-injuring. If a couple of thousand Islamic fundos in Kashmir are a millstone around India’s neck, a couple of million Islamic fundos in Pakistan could trigger a nuclear war in the region. The sooner India recognizes the truth of current realities — including the injustice in Kashmir — the better. N Delhi should therefore start talking to Pakistan again as soon as possible since there is no better-placed or flexible Pakistani than General Pervez Musharraf with whom to clinch an honourable and equitable compromise.

joygoswami · Post by **joygoswami** » 20 Feb 2014 05:28

A snippet of Pakbarism picked up from Social Media.

The Blasphemy that takes place every day in Pakistan.

"My first encounter with religious intolerance happened unfortunately here in Lahore while I studied in University of Engineering and Technology (UET). In the second week of my freshman year in this new city of Lahore, where I had come from Quetta, A group of 6 bearded men knocked at my hostel door at around 10 pm in the night. When I opened the door, they put a picture on the floor and asked me to step on it and spit on it. I looked at the photo, which was of a man, and did not recognize it. Surprised, I asked them who this person was? They told me it was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani Sahab, and this was in reality a test to make sure I wasn't a member of the Mirzai Community (Worldwide Known as the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community). As, I was new to the city, and was settling in, I couldn't afford to confront the Jamiat students. I thought that since, I had no affiliation with the person in the photo, and since I wanted to stay clear of trouble and save my butt, I did as i was told. When I was done, all the bearded men hugged me one after the other, calling me their Muslim brother and thoroughly pleased. Later at night, I resented what I had done. Just to get over with a problem, I had broken a principle, and ever since I have regretted making that decision, which was made out of fear and pressure."

Sajjad Hussain Changezi at the Lahore University of Management Sciences at a conference hosted by Aahang. Sajjad H. Changezi is a social activist and representative of the Hazara community. He has seen his community under attack for years, and has participated in movements and protests demanding an end to violence and government action against the perpetrators.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 20 Feb 2014 06:30

disha wrote: IMO, Taliban controlling Karachi and the corridor to Peshawar is a good thing to India as long as they are amenable to allow trade to flourish between India all the way to Kabul and thence forward.

I would rather deal with Talibunnies, than pakjabis. Pakjabis should simply be cutoff from access to a port and should be land locked.

Let Massa choose sides., it will be interesting to see if Massa abandons pakjabis (it will!) and pick up Talibunnies as allies (not if, but when).

Talibunnies being a practical lot (and not into the kind of pak-jabi koolaid) *will* allow all trade to flourish as long as they get their cut and as long as they can stave off or kick pakjabis.

This is a turnaround - in the Great Game II, Talibunnies are the new knights and Pakjabis the new pawns (earlier, the pakjabis were using others as their pawns).

I have previously stated on here that "We can do business with the Islamists if they take power in Pakistan". I guess it is time for me to try and clarify whether that thought has any basis or is simply rhetoric.

As I see it, it the Taliban are really interested in running a country of over 100 million people that stretches a thousand km north to south, they will have to have money to quell rebellion and give sops to people. That money must come from somewhere and that will probably mean more Opium and Hashish and begging KSA. But that will not be enough. They will still need money from fourfathers like China and the USA.

If the Taliban "accommodate" China and the USA and IMF to get money from them - then they will simply be a new 21st century version of the Pakistan army. If they don't do that then they will have no money and pockets of rebellion will break out - with infighting and multiple small Somalians/FATAs. The alternative that has never been explored after 1947 is reaching accommodation with India.

India has tried to reach accommodation with the best armed, best trained and most well funded Islamists, the Pakistani army and establishment. No doubt India will try to reach accommodation with a Taliban government - leaving the question of "dealing with India" firmly in the Taliban's court.

If the Taliban come to power in Pakistan, it will be, in my view a watershed of sorts for India. India's behavior has been meek beyond belief. We should be telling Pakistanis where to get off, and how to conduct their affairs. Instead we have been meekly treating them as a peer, an equal stable sovereign state with a future that India looks forward to and desires to deal with using the lame excuse "We cannot choose our neighbours". This is crass ignorance and lack of study of comtemporary history both by our IAS/IFS cadre as well as by the scam ridden mostly illiterate "un-padh" politicians.

If our neighbour is a rapist we have to handle him, not hide behind the burqa that "It's OK. We need to live with this rapist and not force him to do our bidding". India will simply have to put strong conditions in dealing with a Taliban government and if they don't like it they can stuff it.

What will a Taliban government do? They can make war with India, but they will be defeated. That is so obvious that countries like the US and China will ant to supply arms to the Taliban simply to avoid such defeat in Indian hands. In other words the US and China will bribe the Taliban and the Taliban will be tempted bend their Islamic principles to accept aid from the US and China.

If the Taliban do not bend their principles, Pakistan will sink into civil war. We will have refugees and if the Pakistan army is made sufficiently weak, we may have to do Bangladesh in Punjab.

Several question marks remain:
1. Maintenance and use of nuclear weapons requires reasonably good industrial and technical expertise. That means a significant proportion of the Pakistan army expertise will have to join the Taliban
2. Small arms can be a cottage industry, but tanks, trucks and missiles again require a coherent economy such as Pakjab has seen to the east of the Indus, as well as in Sindh. Running those industries will require en masse acceptance of Taliban conditions by industrial workers in Pakjab and Sindh
3. Oil is an issue. It requires real money. Who will supply the Taliban with oil unless the US cosies up to them and gets them oil via KSA

Mark my words - what the US does, and which side the US takes, will be crucial. The US, knowing its greedy short term view of the world will definitely try and do a deal with the Taliban. The US will not want India to be the dominant power in the region and will seek to "balance". This will be very tempting to the Taliban, who have had it easy till now. It will be India's duty to expose US perfidy in Pakistan so that splinter factions of the Taliban never stop hating the US even if the Taliban start taking bribes from the US.

Pakistan was never a pure India-Pakistan issue. The US is deeply involved.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 20 Feb 2014 06:38

by Dr. Shiv
Well folks, you heard it here first.

I must say that a generation of Indians born after 2000 will not see/have not seen the excitement and tension that India went though in 1971 before Pakistan split into two countries. But what we are seeing now is the de-facto splitting of what is left of Djinnah's Pakistan into two more states. The Emirate of Waziristan is reality no matter which way it is spun. The Durand line has been dissolved, and the Pakistani state is no longer in control of those territories and is unable to take them back.

We now have three countries where there was one. Bangladesh, Pakistan and Talibania (Waziristan)

Now the True prophet has spoken!!! This is the future!!!!

Like I say!! Shia's are better than Sunni's!! we the Dharmic should support Shia's all the time!! no offense to the Chanakya!

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 20 Feb 2014 07:09

AoA!
Islamagood declared the perfect tourist paradise for The Faithful: express tickets to Houristan available free

partha · Post by **partha** » 20 Feb 2014 07:14

yes shivji, it is easier to deal with vyaghra than gomukha vyaghra.

partha · Post by **partha** » 20 Feb 2014 07:34

Facebook bought a chat messenger company for $19B which is more than 3 times Pakistan's defence budget

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Fondly remembering pre OBL raid days when Pak ambassador the good Haqqani in US used to thunder in CNN studios questioning GOTUS bailing out failing companies instead of giving money to front line all-lie in global war on terror.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 20 Feb 2014 07:47

China Cautious on Pak Investment Deals - Ananth Krishnan, The Hindu

Chinese officials said on Wednesday they were still working out details of a major investment proposal that Pakistani officials had hoped to finalise this week during the on-going visit of President Mamnoon Hussain

Following talks between Mr. Hussain and Chinese President Xi Jinping, officials indicated both sides were yet to finalise the details of a proposed $ 20 billion investment into projects under a planned economic corridor linking western China and the Arabian Sea port of Gwadar.

Before Mr. Hussain’s arrival here on Tuesday evening, Pakistani officials had proposed to their Chinese counterparts setting up two $ 10 billion funds for energy and infrastructure projects as part of the corridor. The corridor envisages expanding road links, building a railway line and installing energy pipelines running from the western Xinjiang region to Pakistan through Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK), which provides the only land link connecting the two countries.

On Wednesday, following talks between the two leaders, both sides only announced more modest agreements that had been expected.

Of the four deals signed, one was to upgrade the second phase of the Karakoram Highway, which runs from Xinjiang, through PoK, all the way to Islamabad. The second was for the building of an international airport at Gwadar.

It is understood that both agreements are, however, yet to be fleshed out. Asked by The Hindu about China’s planned investment into the two projects, Luo Zhaohui, Director General of the Foreign Ministry’s Asian Affairs Department and its top official on Asia policy, said the two sides were still in discussion.

Both sides also did not announce any agreement on the proposed investment fund. Asked about the Pakistani proposal, Mr. Luo said the idea needed to be worked out. “It is the intention, but we will have to see how it will be carried out,” he said, adding both sides “have a positive attitude on cooperation.”

Mr. Luo described the economic corridor plan as a priority. Both countries hope the long-discussed plan, which was revived last year, will answer sceptics who have pointed out that the lofty rhetoric often been used to describe ties as being “higher than the Himalayas” has, in recent years, not been reflected in actual Chinese financial or material support to its “all weather” ally.

While the difficult terrain has historically been an obstacle to boosting land connectivity, in recent years many Chinese firms have become wary of the security situation in Pakistan, following a number of kidnapping threats aimed at Chinese workers. The Gwadar port project, strategically located on the Arabian Sea coast, has also stagnated, officials acknowledge.

partha · Post by **partha** » 20 Feb 2014 08:40

'Operation Bomb Random Civilians' by PAF underway in Mir Ali

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 20 Feb 2014 08:43

shiv wrote:
disha wrote: Several question marks remain:
Pakistan was never a pure India-Pakistan issue. The US is deeply involved.

Before 98 Blasts, Bakisatan was India' problem, after Ninty Eight, Bakistan is Global problem for its FourB-Friends. Who so ever took and implement the decision 98, accomplishrd this objective for India.