Ah, Yanam , an enclave in east Godavari district, right in the heart of Coastal Andhra is French speaking of course!matrimc wrote: You cannot compare that with AP division. They are already three states speaking Hindi. Splitting them is not like splitting AP since AP was the only state with Telugu speaking people.
Truth be told , Nehru resisted the best he could, his hands were forced by the death of Potti Sriramulu, who fasted to death demanding Andhra be created as a linguistic state. That really opened the way for the *MKs and their chauvinist mobilization in TNSanjayC wrote:^^^ I have always believed that linguistic basis of creating states was a disaster, and as usual for all disastrous ideas floating at the time of Independence, this too got Nehru's support. It has only promoted regionalism and weakened the national identity, as Nehru was warned it would.
It would have been better to have created Indian states by drawing straight lines on the map, like in the US, so all this chest beating about language would have stopped.
బుగ్గ గిల్లి జోల పాడటమంటే ఇదే కాబోలు.Rony wrote:^^
After screwing Telugus, she wants to give "special package" and expect us to to be grateful to her ? notice how the media credit is going to her and not bjp which requested it. All said and done, this "package" would be peanuts.
People can't do much except protesting with the picture of local leaders who betrayed Andhra. At the Center Congress stabbed from the front, BJP from the back.bhavani wrote:The major Seema Andhra Kangress leaders will not leave Kangress or will not criticize the actions of Sonia Gandhi because of various reasons:
1. Chiranjeevi: Has massive assets and holdings in telanagana (HYD) so will not go against Congress, as if he does, chances that he will lose his assets during the up coming Congress-TRS rule in Telangana
2. Botsa: A liquor baron and land lord with holdings in Hyd area, and also a greedy snake of a politician with loyal support base, will be a loyal doggie to mommie sonia in immediate future.
Similarly a lot of Seema Andhra leaders have massive assets in Hyd region and will not revolt or will risk losing properties. Same also goes for all telugu cinema families
^^^^Sigh, here we go again.At the Center Congress stabbed from the front, BJP from the back.
huh? I'm curious to know where are these details from?devesh wrote:Hyderabad as capital for Telangana was VOTED DOWN. meaning: Hyderabad will not be under Telangana jurisdiction.
there is no need for the dramatic chippa comments. my guess is either Hyd will become a UT without revenue sharing (in which case, T and SA both get screwed). or more likely is Hyd becomes UT with revenue sharing for 20 years or something. which pretty much brings the SA account to surplus again.
Can only speak for myself but I'm not blaming Modi for the split only for lack of leadership in this issue. He's the public face of the BJP in the 2014 LS elections and to my mind this LS fiasco on Telangana creation reflects on him. I would have expected him to say that while BJP is all for Telangana (as they believe in smaller states), the split will not be supported without adequately addressing the concerns of the rest of AP. Push for amendments and agree to support only if they are accepted. Even if bill is passed without their support that shows statesmanship in not budging from their principle of justice for all. What matters is perception, helping the Congress to pass the bill after blacking out LS TV gives rise to the suspicion that they had something to hide. Also gleefully crowing about remember me when its time to vote is in bad taste - it would appear to the rest of AP folks that all the BJP cares about is LS seats in Telangana, rest of AP be damned. I completely do not agree with folks who want the BJP to abandon AP just because they voted for the Congress and are getting EJfied. That is equal to saying that abandon the folks from Kerala/WB because, hey, they voted for the Commies or abandon the NE folks because many are separatist or abandon folks from TN because many might support the LTTE. Doesn't work that way and if that is the attitude be prepared to have no relevance is a huge part of India (Kerala, TN, AP, NE, WB, etc.) - 100+ LS seats.Rahul M wrote:I empathise with those who feel hard done by the split. what baffles me is why modi is being blamed for it ?
could someone please explain what they realistically expected bjp/modi to do ?
only thing I can come up with is they could have abstained from voting by saying 'while are not necessarily against split we oppose it in the current form'. but even then the bill would have been passed.
Spot onmerlin wrote: Can only speak for myself but I'm not blaming Modi for the split only for lack of leadership in this issue. He's the public face of the BJP in the 2014 LS elections and to my mind this LS fiasco on Telangana creation reflects on him. I would have expected him to say that while BJP is all for Telangana (as they believe in smaller states), the split will not be supported without adequately addressing the concerns of the rest of AP. Push for amendments and agree to support only if they are accepted. Even if bill is passed without their support that shows statesmanship in not budging from their principle of justice for all. What matters is perception, helping the Congress to pass the bill after blacking out LS TV gives rise to the suspicion that they had something to hide. Also gleefully crowing about remember me when its time to vote is in bad taste - it would appear to the rest of AP folks that all the BJP cares about is LS seats in Telangana, rest of AP be damned. I completely do not agree with folks who want the BJP to abandon AP just because they voted for the Congress and are getting EJfied. That is equal to saying that abandon the folks from Kerala/WB because, hey, they voted for the Commies or abandon the NE folks because many are separatist or abandon folks from TN because many might support the LTTE. Doesn't work that way and if that is the attitude be prepared to have no relevance is a huge part of India (Kerala, TN, AP, NE, WB, etc.) - 100+ LS seats.
Weren't Northern Circars also part of Nizam rule in some distant past? Why not include that in Telangana as well?Aditya_V wrote:SandeepA-It was part of Hyderabad Nizam rule in Bhakt Ramdas time
Krishna dt was part of Nizam before it was sold to British. That is why you still see a place in Vijayawada called as Nizam gate. Folks (my ancestors) first has to go there to get Visa to visit their relatives in Hyderabad and beyond. My mom side grandfather's cousins etc used to tell stories proudly how there served the army with food etc., when the landed there to launch attack on Nizam. Good that no one is alive of that era.nageshks wrote:Weren't Northern Circars also part of Nizam rule in some distant past? Why not include that in Telangana as well?Aditya_V wrote:SandeepA-It was part of Hyderabad Nizam rule in Bhakt Ramdas time
WrongAditya_V wrote:SandeepA-It was part of Hyderabad Nizam rule in Bhakt Ramdas time
Ahhh - Operation Polo. The operations began simultaneously from Vijayawada and Solapur, IIRC. The Indian army spent all that blood and treasure to rescue the people from the Nizam and his Razakars, and now the Nizam makes a comeback as the Patron Saint of Telangana. The ironies of life.Muppalla wrote: Krishna dt was part of Nizam before it was sold to British. That is why you still see a place in Vijayawada called as Nizam gate. Folks (my ancestors) first has to go there to get Visa to visit their relatives in Hyderabad and beyond. My mom side grandfather's cousins etc used to tell stories proudly how there served the army with food etc., when the landed there to launch attack on Nizam. Good that no one is alive of that era.
.Nizam makes a comeback as the Patron Saint of Telangana
I do not think so. In whole South India, Hindus of Telanganites can match with Razaakars in brutality. Go to any Hyderabad area, the Hindus are hyper aggressive in showing their faith and symbols, and in protecting in it too. Preciously, for this reason only, BJP are strong around Hyderabad (to counter MIM). All these years, the rulers (from SA) were holding the Hindus in gong in full blow back. But Telangana becomes a state, I bet there will be communal tensions, that will lead to polarization, that ultimately benefit BJP/RSS.nageshks wrote:The Indian army spent all that blood and treasure to rescue the people from the Nizam and his Razakars, and now the Nizam makes a comeback as the Patron Saint of Telangana. The ironies of life.
Our of curiosity, wasn't Rajamahendry also part of Northern Circars handed over to the British?
How did he get the approval for CDR after so much drama? That was a huge amount. If he cares more about his business then no wonder he quit. Even Shekhar Gupta mentioned it in his recent article.ShyamSP wrote:
Out of all Chiranjeevi is the most disgusting fellow. Botsa character is already know he was thug before as he is now.
Let's name the names from non-T. I can think these now.
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Lagadapati - Despite all theatrics, He kept his word. He resigned as MP, from Congress and quit politics
Bloody everybody from BJP Sushma, Jaitly to all opponenets within and outside party might have made money in this murder.AjitK wrote:How did he get the approval for CDR after so much drama? That was a huge amount. If he cares more about his business then no wonder he quit. Even Shekhar Gupta mentioned it in his recent article.ShyamSP wrote:
Out of all Chiranjeevi is the most disgusting fellow. Botsa character is already know he was thug before as he is now.
Let's name the names from non-T. I can think these now.
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Lagadapati - Despite all theatrics, He kept his word. He resigned as MP, from Congress and quit politics
Its not a news. Thats what we were all saying since beginning. Just few months, thats all they had to wait. They could have rejected telangana bill citing not taking SA concerns on board and the way the bill was placed and given Telangana after elections under Modi watch with adequate compensation to Seemandhra. They could have got credit on both sides. But no, when Shani is on your head, you don't see anything.This is called snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.gandharva wrote:
Cow-belt UC elites considers Nehru Dynasty and its current head SG as one of their own. ABV, Sushma, all Tiwaris, Singhs, Pandeys, Rais, doen't matter which party they belong to, serves the interest of this elite. They would oppose Modi till the last moment, unless he compromise. If i am correct it has already started. I hope iam wrong.Narayana Rao wrote:Now I understand how BJP/Jana Sangh and RSS failed to remove INC rule for all these decades. They simply lack cut throat political ability. They failed horribly today and joined mafia queen in creating a mafia ruled state for the next decade at least and abandoned 25 MP seats to EJ almost forever.
I hope NM wins the elections but now I am not so sure. After what Sushma did I am sure there are many like MMJ in UP and Bihar ( Bihar Modi wife is also EJ) who are equally back stabbing.
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I do not think so. In whole South India, Hindus of Telanganites can match with Razaakars in brutality. Go to any Hyderabad area, the Hindus are hyper aggressive in showing their faith and symbols, and in protecting in it too. Preciously, for this reason only, BJP are strong around Hyderabad (to counter MIM). All these years, the rulers (from SA) were holding the Hindus in gong in full blow back. But Telangana becomes a state, I bet there will be communal tensions, that will lead to polarization, that ultimately benefit BJP/RSS.
