Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 26 Feb 2014 20:44

There is talk that Bihar BJP is not at all impressed about an alliance with LJP and there may be some mutiny!

रामविलास से हुई डील तो बीजेपी में बगावत तय

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 26 Feb 2014 21:00

The problem is that BJP voteshare in TN is unpredictable. Rest all are known quantities and we can add or minus percentages based on our interpretation etc.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 26 Feb 2014 21:11

Fun begins! Mission attack Dalit Muslim consolidation.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 26 Feb 2014 21:23

Udit Raj wrote:During the Muzaffarnagar Riots, Muslims openly murdered Dalits. BSP MP Kadir Rana, MLA Noor Rana and Maulana Jameel Ahmed incited Muslims to do so! On the other hand, Mayawati is helping out Muslims for vote-bank politics.

So let's see how many Muslim candidates Mayawati would be putting for LS elections, and how many Dalit votes they will now get!

Similarly there were reports of Muslims having attacked Yadavs for constructing some temple platform! So Yadavs too would be rethinking about voting for Muslim candidates.

I think NaMo and Amit Shah know how to screw both SP and BSP!

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 26 Feb 2014 21:42

I have said this before all caste alliances break down(including OBC+muslim or SC+muslim) in riot scenario because all Hindhus get attacked by the hoodlums. Infact, SCs & other OBCs(who are not powerful) are more vulnerable to attacks because they are seen as easy/soft targets. So, invariably these communities then search for an alternative that can end the menace.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 26 Feb 2014 22:19

Clips from the sting operation aired by the channel showed many pollsters
agreeing to produce favourable numbers by leveraging the so-called margin of
error, a statistical concept meant to indicate the quality of sampling and the
accuracy to be expected from survey results. "For a price, the prediction of
seats tally can be changed to suit the interests of political parties.

The agencies have no qualms accepting even black money for this purpose," the
channel, News Express, ..

Does it mean they are showing NDA probable numbers in poor light? Who is this guy who has done the sting? A congi ??

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/art ... aign=cppst

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 26 Feb 2014 22:51

Ram Vilas Paswan coming into the NDA is A BIG THING!

Paswan knew that he would be losing all the Muslim support he gets, and all LJP Muslim leaders would be abandoning LJP. The lone LJP MLA in Bihar Vidhan Sabha has already resigned from LJP. Other leaders would also be looking at the door.

In fact under the LJP banner, there were many hardline Islamics who had found a home. Recently the demonstrations against Salman Khan calling him a traitor to the qaum were organized by "LJP".

So Ram Vilas Paswan has made a big decision. He is showing the middle finger to the Islamics and "Secularists" and coming over to the Bhartiya side.

The reasons may have to do with political survival, especially for his own family, but he would be ensuring that no more would a Paswan be voting for an Islamic in Bihar, and thus working for the Islamic cause.

Basically only 70% Yadavs under RJD, and Kurmis (Nitish's jati) and Maha-Dalits under JD-U would still be voting with Islamics. Modi would continue to work on the jatis and basically bring the Seculars to a collapse in Bihar!

NaMo would not only have finished Nitish and Lalu and Congress in Bihar, he may finish off Islamic power itself in Bihar.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 26 Feb 2014 23:13

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 26 Feb 2014 23:21

http://www.nagpurtoday.in/is-narendra-m ... n-gadkari/

Sources revealed that when Gadkari who is party’s election incharge of Bihar visited Patna, he reportedly considered his close aide Arun Kumar Singh for fielding him as party’s candidate from Munger Lok Sabha seat in Bihar. He even sent Singh along with Ashok Dhote, a party leader from Nagpur to meet Modi. The purpose of Singh’s meeting with Modi was to affirm former’s claim for Munger Lok Sabha seat. However, sources said Modi was reluctant to seal Gadkari’s choice of candidate and showed door to Arun Kumar Singh. In the spate of events, Modi even refused to meet 8-9 former and present MPs of the party.

Sources informed that when Arun Kumar Singh arrived in Nagpur from Munger in 1980-83 he had no job and stayed with his brother-in-law who is working in WCL. In a span of 30 years, he earned reputation as PWD, MOIL and mining contractor. Singh also exposed his social aspect and played up his political interest in the company of leaders like Babasaheb Kedar, Ranjit Deshmukh and Nitin Gadkari. At present, he is reportedly in Gadkari’s fold. Taking advantage of his closeness with Gadkari,
Singh staked his claim for Munger seat. Gadkari also agreed to his demand and sent him to Modi who categorically turned him down. After Modi’s refusal now questions are not only being raised at disturbed Modi-Gadkari equation but also over Gadkari’s choice of candidate. A poll expert puts up, “On what basis ticket has been demanded for Singh from Munger seat. What he has done for BJP or Munger?”

I am very relieved after reading this. So Namo is micromanaging this whole thing to ensure no sabotage. I guess the Bihar incharge post for Gadkari is just to keep RSS happy on paper. But he hardly has any power.

disha · Post by **disha** » 26 Feb 2014 23:54

RajeshA wrote:NaMo would not only have finished Nitish and Lalu and Congress in Bihar, he may finish off Islamic power itself in Bihar.

This is a big thing If it happens in my lifetime in Bihar and UP. Just this two states can power India to its zenith! The inner potential will be unlocked and unleashed.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Feb 2014 00:01

After Kejriwal's Delhi govt resignation, do they have an impact on the polls in 2014?

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 27 Feb 2014 00:06

disha wrote:
RajeshA wrote:NaMo would not only have finished Nitish and Lalu and Congress in Bihar, he may finish off Islamic power itself in Bihar.
This is a big thing If it happens in my lifetime in Bihar and UP. Just this two states can power India to its zenith! The inner potential will be unlocked and unleashed.

When NaMo says the answer to everything is Vikas, then there is some truth in that.

Vikas means the various groups, e.g. organized as jatis and caste coalitions, would not be fighting with each other over crumbs and government jobs. Then they CAN come together under one umbrella.

The other means is through Polarization, which comes naturally after Muzaffarnagar type incidents.

The idea is for Hindutva under Modi, or Moditva to choose which Muslims to empower and which to put out of commission. If Mullah+Mafia can be neutralized through improved internal security, then they are unable to provide Dawa and play Walis. One needs to take away their power to blackmail.

That may be difficult in a fully Hindutvaized polity to which we may hopefully be moving towards, e.g. in this case in Bihar!

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 27 Feb 2014 00:09

ramana wrote:After Kejriwal's Delhi govt resignation, do they have an impact on the polls in 2014?

Kejriwal's star's shine is directly proportional to the airtime he gets from media. As we approach elections, too many political players would be vying for attention. Too much would be happening. MSM would not be able to keep the attention solely on him.

Many other interesting political battles would be on, than just AAP and BJP in Delhi or in a few other areas. Media publicity is AAP's oxygen!

JohnTitor · Post by **JohnTitor** » 27 Feb 2014 00:35

^^ let me re-iterate, pan-india AAP will win no more than 6 seats. Why waste time analysing this??

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 27 Feb 2014 00:37

Shonu wrote:^^ let me re-iterate, pan-india AAP will win no more than 6 seats. Why waste time analysing this??

That too if Congress deicdes to keep them alive for use post elections.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 27 Feb 2014 03:50

Not just

- Upendra Kushwaha's Rashtriya Lok Samata Party (RLSP) - Koeri votebank
- Ram Vilas Paswan's Lok Janshakti Party (LJP), but also - Paswan votebank
- Sadhu Yadav, infamous brother-in-law of Lalu Yadav - Yadav strongmen

would all be accommodated under BJP umbrella in Bihar! Modi is going to chew both Lalu and Nitish for breakfast!

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 27 Feb 2014 04:08

RajeshA wrote:Not just

- Upendra Kushwaha's Rashtriya Lok Samata Party (RLSP) - Koeri votebank
- Ram Vilas Paswan's Lok Janshakti Party (LJP), but also - Paswan votebank
- Sadhu Yadav, infamous brother-in-law of Lalu Yadav - Yadav strongmen

would all be accommodated under BJP umbrella in Bihar! Modi is going to chew both Lalu and Nitish for breakfast!

If they can do all this without creating any dissension in bjp cadre, then it is a job well done. No point thinking about morals when you are fighting for india's independence

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 27 Feb 2014 04:16

I think NaMo should get Sadhu Yadav to fight on LJP ticket and not BJP!

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 27 Feb 2014 05:10

Source

Former MLA and Bahujan Mukti Party leader Satish Kumar - made famous by his Kurmi Chetna Rally (1993) that was held when the then CM Lalu Prasad was at his peak, with Nitish Kumar also sharing the stage - joined the BJP. "Satish Kumar is the leader who gave identity to Nitish and also paved the way for his becoming what he is now. Bahujan Mukti Party has merged with the BJP," Pandey added.

Modi is wooing even Kurmis, Nitish Kumar's Jati.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 27 Feb 2014 05:38

Uh oh, DMK and BJP eyeing an alliance now. Will all of us who have called MuKa names, now swallow the bitter pill? Alliances trump all ideologies and scruples. Sad state of coalition politics.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 27 Feb 2014 05:43

SwamyG wrote:Uh oh, DMK and BJP eyeing an alliance now. Will all of us who have called MuKa names, now swallow the bitter pill? Alliances trump all ideologies and scruples. Sad state of coalition politics.

Don't worry, such talk is only to put pressure on PMK and DMDK to not get too arrogant and start demanding 20 seats each! This should put pressure on Gaptun to make his decisions sooner rather than later.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 27 Feb 2014 06:09

RajeshA wrote:I think NaMo should get Sadhu Yadav to fight on LJP ticket and not BJP!

Eeek, Gods! No - not Sadhu Yadav. Has the Yadav community no better representative than this man? Lest anyone forget, he is wanted in the most heinous crimes. A little reminder to our forum members. Shilpi Jain.

http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/ ... ry-of-rape

RVP is ideologically problematic, but then, most of his ideology was based on simple electoral mathematics. He will happily eat humble pie to get UC votes, believe me. But Sadhu Yadav? Let us hope not.

disha · Post by **disha** » 27 Feb 2014 06:19

RajeshA wrote:Not just

- Upendra Kushwaha's Rashtriya Lok Samata Party (RLSP) - Koeri votebank
- Ram Vilas Paswan's Lok Janshakti Party (LJP), but also - Paswan votebank
- Sadhu Yadav, infamous brother-in-law of Lalu Yadav - Yadav strongmen

would all be accommodated under BJP umbrella in Bihar! Modi is going to chew both Lalu and Nitish for breakfast!

That would be puke inducing.

Remember all the rats jumping ship will try to show that the ship has come to pick the rats up!

Arunkumar · Post by **Arunkumar** » 27 Feb 2014 09:02

disha wrote:
RajeshA wrote:NaMo would not only have finished Nitish and Lalu and Congress in Bihar, he may finish off Islamic power itself in Bihar.
This is a big thing If it happens in my lifetime in Bihar and UP. Just this two states can power India to its zenith! The inner potential will be unlocked and unleashed.

I think slogan Congress mukht bharat is a eupheism for the above.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 27 Feb 2014 09:32

Bhavesh S Mane ‏@Bhaveshmane1 13h

Ahmedabad will be declared as Wi-Fi city from tomorrow by CM. For next 3 months free Wi-Fi. 4G Reliance has started free service from today.

wow!!

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 27 Feb 2014 10:38

Thanthi TV ran a poll and more than 50 percent want modi as PM, dunno how many were interviewed though

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 27 Feb 2014 11:15

RajeshA wrote:Ram Vilas Paswan coming into the NDA is A BIG THING!

Paswan knew that he would be losing all the Muslim support he gets, and all LJP Muslim leaders would be abandoning LJP. The lone LJP MLA in Bihar Vidhan Sabha has already resigned from LJP. Other leaders would also be looking at the door.

In fact under the LJP banner, there were many hardline Islamics who had found a home. Recently the demonstrations against Salman Khan calling him a traitor to the qaum were organized by "LJP".

So Ram Vilas Paswan has made a big decision. He is showing the middle finger to the Islamics and "Secularists" and coming over to the Bhartiya side.

The reasons may have to do with political survival, especially for his own family, but he would be ensuring that no more would a Paswan be voting for an Islamic in Bihar, and thus working for the Islamic cause.

Basically only 70% Yadavs under RJD, and Kurmis (Nitish's jati) and Maha-Dalits under JD-U would still be voting with Islamics. Modi would continue to work on the jatis and basically bring the Seculars to a collapse in Bihar!

NaMo would not only have finished Nitish and Lalu and Congress in Bihar, he may finish off Islamic power itself in Bihar.

It was his son's call. He wants Chirag to get started on taking big decisions. Good for Chirag. For once son-politics is working in Bharat's favor

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 27 Feb 2014 11:26

Chirag looks like junior bachhan, no?

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 27 Feb 2014 12:02

LJP to contest 7 seats, deal confirmed - TOI.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 27 Feb 2014 12:15

INS Namo seems like a "force in being" like bismark/tirpitz...just him being tied up smugly dockside with signs of occasional patrols sends shivers down the spines of the admiralty and first sea lord at orkney islands and panic stricken redeployments pulling in everything that can sail from south africa to iceland to patrol the north sea. lol.

he is a existential threat to the congis...nobody, not even VP singh in his heyday has shaken them this badly and evaded so many pursueing naval units like HMS NDtv and so on..

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 27 Feb 2014 13:57

Singha wrote:INS Namo seems like a "force in being" like bismark/tirpitz...just him being tied up smugly dockside with signs of occasional patrols sends shivers down the spines of the admiralty and first sea lord at orkney islands and panic stricken redeployments pulling in everything that can sail from south africa to iceland to patrol the north sea. lol.

he is a existential threat to the congis...nobody, not even VP singh in his heyday has shaken them this badly and evaded so many pursueing naval units like HMS NDtv and so on.

Unlike Bismarck though, INS Namo is thoroughly and vigorously tested and proven. the ship is showing remarkable maneuverability and steady steering without losing the course in the process. The battle-station and guns are state of the art onlee..

I do not suppose any swede OR italian has managed to leak its secrets to Royal navy.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 27 Feb 2014 14:21

^But mines have been laid for the IAC INS namo in the Bay of Bihar... or so leaked intel reports say...

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 27 Feb 2014 15:01

Adm Doenitz has authorized the Prinz Eugen to lead a sortie into the engrish channel one hears...congi loyalists have been instructed to line the chalk cliffs of dover with pitchforks and staves to ward off the invasion of their ramparts.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 27 Feb 2014 16:41

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/jdu-expels-f ... 37-64.html

New Delhi: Janata Dal United (JDU) expelled five rebel MPs on Thursday for "anti-party activities". Out of the five MPs, four are from the Lok Sabha while one is from the Rajya Sabha. The Lok Sabha MPs to face the axe are Captain Jainarain Nishad, Purnmasi Ram, Sushil Kumar Singh and Mangani Lal Mandal while Shivanand Tiwari is the Rajya Sabha MP.

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 27 Feb 2014 16:46

nageshks wrote:
RajeshA wrote:I think NaMo should get Sadhu Yadav to fight on LJP ticket and not BJP!
Eeek, Gods! No - not Sadhu Yadav. Has the Yadav community no better representative than this man? Lest anyone forget, he is wanted in the most heinous crimes. A little reminder to our forum members. Shilpi Jain.

http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/ ... ry-of-rape

RVP is ideologically problematic, but then, most of his ideology was based on simple electoral mathematics. He will happily eat humble pie to get UC votes, believe me. But Sadhu Yadav? Let us hope not.

I don't care if Sadhu Yadav wins an election & gets to LS, but what I expect and demand from NaMo is justice for Shilpi Jain and many like her. This ******** must pay for his sins. It is on these guys that NaMo should let the NIA/CBI loose.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 27 Feb 2014 16:58

Yes, Sadhu Yadav is a criminal. Modi can do without him.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 27 Feb 2014 17:09

Supratik wrote:Yes, Sadhu Yadav is a criminal. Modi can do without him.

He was the Udai Hussain of Patna. Picking even 8th, 9th standard girls right from school. The tales of his crimes are just too juicy for MSM to not ignore. BJP should stay away from him.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 27 Feb 2014 17:20

BJP is keeping 30 seats for BJP in Bihar and giving 10 to its NDA allies, 3 to Upendra Kushwaha's Rashtriya Lok Samata Party (RLSP) and 7 to Ram Vilas Paswan's Lok Janshakti Party (LJP).

Of its 30 seats, I think 4 may go to imported people, people taken from other parties

- Capt (Retd) Jai Narain Prasad Nishad, from JD-U for Muzaffarpur LS Constituency
- Om Prakash Yadav, Independent for Siwan LS Constituency
- Putul Kumari Singh, Independent, widow of Digvijay Singh, for Banka LS Constituency
- Chhedi Paswan, from JD-U for Sasaram LS Constituency

Then R.K. Singh, former bureaucrat, too would need to be accommodated.

So BJP Bihar leaders may not contest more than 25 seats!

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 27 Feb 2014 18:37

RajeshA wrote:BJP is keeping 30 seats for BJP in Bihar and giving 10 to its NDA allies, 3 to Upendra Kushwaha's Rashtriya Lok Samata Party (RLSP) and 7 to Ram Vilas Paswan's Lok Janshakti Party (LJP).

Of its 30 seats, I think 4 may go to imported people, people taken from other parties

- Capt (Retd) Jai Narain Prasad Nishad, from JD-U for Muzaffarpur LS Constituency
- Om Prakash Yadav, Independent for Siwan LS Constituency
- Putul Kumari Singh, Independent, widow of Digvijay Singh, for Banka LS Constituency
- Chhedi Paswan, from JD-U for Sasaram LS Constituency

Then R.K. Singh, former bureaucrat, too would need to be accommodated.

So BJP Bihar leaders may not contest more than 25 seats!

Rajesh ji,

The 5 names you have mentioned will all be fighting from a BJP ticket, so no worries. Winnability should be the only factor. Plus, Bihar BJP has been fighting only 15 seats all these years. So 25 seats itself will consume their time. I also heard that 2-3 LJP candidates will fight on BJP tag (dont know what that means). Now I am really seeing a good chance of a BJP sweep in Bihar. Wont surprise me if people fighting on BJP tag/ticket end up getting in excess of 25 seats.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 27 Feb 2014 18:47

Gen V K Singh to join BJP on Sunday !!