Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

rajithn · Post by **rajithn** » 27 Feb 2014 22:31

fanne wrote:The real enemy that Modi is destroying by bringing LJP is not laloo + cong combo in Bihar, he is destroying the one within the party who had hopes that Modi may not be able to win enough support so lets sabotage from inside so he fall just short and they can then have a chance at the highest post. Modi is attracting allies that even Vajpayee may not.

Couldn't agree more

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 27 Feb 2014 22:38

Let me make a claim -- Paswan will bring in Pasmanda muslims along with him to BJP. A large section of muslims in Bihar are only Muslims in the most loose sense of the word. They are identical to their pre converted Hindu brethren of maha-dalit demographic.

Some gyan from past -- courtesy dear JA

http://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/0 ... 420_a.html

The NDA's significant gains were attributed to a number of
factors, but key was Union Steel, Chemical and Fertilizer
Minister Ram Vilas Paswan's refusal to join the SDF with his Lok
Janashakti Party (LJP). The LJP won had won only 11 seats by
late afternoon. Paswan's split from the SDF drew away much
needed votes and divided the critical Muslim vote - a key vote
bank for Lalu and his RJD. In addition, the JDU, though aligned
with the sectarian BJP, did pick up Muslim votes as well.
President of the All India Pasmanda Muslim Mahaz Anwar Ali said
he believed the Muslim vote had completely splintered.

Cheers.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 27 Feb 2014 22:43

gandharva wrote:

One small flaw. CSDS gave them 39% vote and 16-24 seats, not 24-27. So I would say 25 / 40 looks very possible.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 27 Feb 2014 22:47

So when NaMo wins, will have have to give Paswan a Cabinet position? If not, will he keep blackmailing the Government? Will he demand more and more reservations to poor poor minorities?
I think NaMo is playing with fire here. As long as it is a quid pro quo, he is in trouble with this.

member_28397 · Post by **member_28397** » 27 Feb 2014 22:56

KJoishy wrote:So when NaMo wins, will have have to give Paswan a Cabinet position? If not, will he keep blackmailing the Government? Will he demand more and more reservations to poor poor minorities?
I think NaMo is playing with fire here. As long as it is a quid pro quo, he is in trouble with this.

Paswan @ 4-5 seat at most, do you think will that scare NaMoAsPM? I see 2-3% vote share in Bihar helping it in rest 33 seats NDA Is contesting, might win 25/33... cheers

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 27 Feb 2014 23:01

KJoishy wrote:So when NaMo wins, will have have to give Paswan a Cabinet position? If not, will he keep blackmailing the Government? Will he demand more and more reservations to poor poor minorities?
I think NaMo is playing with fire here. As long as it is a quid pro quo, he is in trouble with this.

Most likely his son from his second punjabi Brahmin wife.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 27 Feb 2014 23:03

KJoishy wrote:So when NaMo wins, will have have to give Paswan a Cabinet position? If not, will he keep blackmailing the Government? Will he demand more and more reservations to poor poor minorities?
I think NaMo is playing with fire here. As long as it is a quid pro quo, he is in trouble with this.

Boss, BJP can use his vote to win their seats with decent margins. Once BJP crosses 200, why do you think BJP will need Paswan's seats. We can just dump him. He is trying to maximise his seats and BJP is trying to do the same. Nobody knows what will happen post poll. The rate at which BJP is screwing congress, BJP may even hot 225 on its own, so even with reliable NDA allies, they can hit 250. Then paswan can go to hell.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 27 Feb 2014 23:19

Why we are sending Paswan to hell? Is it because of some reason (best left not spelled)? He is Indian, and a Hindu and a Bihari and a dalit? Which one is something that is undesirable? His past actions right? Will you take SS or LKA, they have done great past actions? Even Jinnah had done great act (when our beloved Chacha ji refused to be lawyers of revolutionary, Jinnah came forward). You know why in Hindi there is only one word for Yesterday and Tomorrow (kal), because neither is important, none matters, what matters is now, present. He is coming with us, making us strong, what is wrong with it?

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 27 Feb 2014 23:22

RajeshA wrote:The best comment on Napusak came from some BJP guy in Bihar, who said,
"How can Salman Khurshid know that Modi is napunsak? Did Salman Khurshid send his wife to Modi to check it out?"

Dont bring his wife in this lafra, SK himself went to test but NAMO was not responsive. SK was expeciting the Nawabi response he normally gets in Xongi Shazada circle.

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 27 Feb 2014 23:37

KJoishy wrote:So when NaMo wins, will have have to give Paswan a Cabinet position? If not, will he keep blackmailing the Government? Will he demand more and more reservations to poor poor minorities?
I think NaMo is playing with fire here. As long as it is a quid pro quo, he is in trouble with this.

That's why BJP is insisting on either LJP people fight under BJP flag, or BJP people should fight with LJP ticket. In either case BJP checkmates LJP.
If Paswan makes too much noise then the BJP men in LJP skin will leave him.
Or, if LJP people with BJP MPship go to Paswan then they will be disqualified due to defection.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 27 Feb 2014 23:46

Altair wrote:We should be aware that Congress will sneak in its coverts in the form of defections. RVP may be a covert. BJP should do its due diligence in vetting him rather than welcoming him with open arms.

who is RVP ? far too many acronyms nowadays.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 28 Feb 2014 00:01

Rahul M wrote:
Altair wrote:We should be aware that Congress will sneak in its coverts in the form of defections. RVP may be a covert. BJP should do its due diligence in vetting him rather than welcoming him with open arms.
who is RVP ? far too many acronyms nowadays.

Ram Vilas Paswan.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 28 Feb 2014 00:10

fanne wrote:Why we are sending Paswan to hell? Is it because of some reason (best left not spelled)? He is Indian, and a Hindu and a Bihari and a dalit? Which one is something that is undesirable? His past actions right? Will you take SS or LKA, they have done great past actions? Even Jinnah had done great act (when our beloved Chacha ji refused to be lawyers of revolutionary, Jinnah came forward). You know why in Hindi there is only one word for Yesterday and Tomorrow (kal), because neither is important, none matters, what matters is now, present. He is coming with us, making us strong, what is wrong with it?

Fanne ji,

I said he can go to hell if he talks about common minimum programme etc.. etc.. and tries to dictate terms with his 4-5 seats which BJP hopefully does not need.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 28 Feb 2014 00:21

muraliravi you have done commendable job so far in getting facts and statistics, keep up good work pls.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 28 Feb 2014 00:31

NaMo may allow big retail
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/busi ... 117080.cms

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 28 Feb 2014 00:50

What's this khujli to ABV's niece?

Vajpayee's niece Karuna Shukla joins Congress, slams Modi

NEW DELHI: Having ended her 32-year-long association with BJP, former Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee's niece Karuna Shukla on Thursday joined Congress and slammed Narendra Modi saying his promise of serving the country is nothing but "plain dishonesty".

Hitting out at Modi, Shukla said the BJP has declared such a person its prime ministerial candidate "who did not fulfill the duty of a husband or rajdharma when he was chief minister. If such a person talks about discharging rashtradharma, I will call it plain dishonesty".

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 28 Feb 2014 00:58

KJoishy wrote:What's this khujli to ABV's niece?

Vajpayee's niece Karuna Shukla joins Congress, slams Modi

NEW DELHI: Having ended her 32-year-long association with BJP, former Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee's niece Karuna Shukla on Thursday joined Congress and slammed Narendra Modi saying his promise of serving the country is nothing but "plain dishonesty".

Hitting out at Modi, Shukla said the BJP has declared such a person its prime ministerial candidate "who did not fulfill the duty of a husband or rajdharma when he was chief minister. If such a person talks about discharging rashtradharma, I will call it plain dishonesty".

She was denied ticket by BJP and hence all the khujli. BJP won 10/11 seats in CG last time and the lone loser - Karuna Shukla

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Feb 2014 01:22

kmkrao, Please publicise the above fact on Ms Shukla. Looks like a sore loser.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Feb 2014 02:30

CNN IBN -- Did anybody catch sagarika ghose on chaupal at the jamia millia??

Category 5 Moron was on her usual modi bashing rant with a very appreciative audience from a certain community.

SagarAg · Post by **SagarAg** » 28 Feb 2014 03:14

Modiji speech at All India Traders Convention

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 28 Feb 2014 03:14

Replying to Hari Seldon's post in AAP thread. I felt the response would be more appropriate here:

Hari Seldon wrote:^Dunno saar. Many things are attributed to NM but are, ostensibly, plausibly deniable by NM. I can understand why that stance makes sense for him and so on.

However, NM's grip on the party is nowhere near complete, clearly. Especially on matters Delhi (whether parliamentary or otherwise) - as we amply witnessed in the last LS session. So crediting him for something good (even if unwitting) that happened in Dilli may be a tad generous.

I've often seen people (not necessarily you Hari saar), grumbling here that NaMo's hold over the BJP is not complete and that this should be remedied at the earliest. But perhaps this is a good thing? NaMo's good qualities are beyond question, but do we want the BJP to be transformed into a cult of one leader, like every other party out there? The BJP is refreshingly different in that sense having no Pope like figure giving orders to his/her flock unlike the Con party, SP, BSP, AAP, TMC and all the other One Leader/One Family owned parties that we are saddled with.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 28 Feb 2014 03:26

She was denied ticket by BJP and hence all the khujli. BJP won 10/11 seats in CG last time and the lone loser - Karuna Shukla

Thanks for the info. Will keep it handy and hopefully use it to deadly effect with my fb pseudo liberals that are sure to put this up. However one thing i noticed last decade or so..lots of top leaders daughters are SAJA kinds, pseudo liberals. MMS, LKA, ABV etc. Daughters play a massive role in influencing old dads and their life term obsessions possibly get on their nerves. But dads having soft corners give them too much space and attention and thus at that late hour get influenced to the detriment of the very ideas they have stood for all so many years. I wrote about this a few years ago here too..possible.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 28 Feb 2014 03:56

harbans wrote:
She was denied ticket by BJP and hence all the khujli. BJP won 10/11 seats in CG last time and the lone loser - Karuna Shukla
Thanks for the info. Will keep it handy and hopefully use it to deadly effect with my fb pseudo liberals that are sure to put this up. However one thing i noticed last decade or so..lots of top leaders daughters are SAJA kinds, pseudo liberals. MMS, LKA, ABV etc. Daughters play a massive role in influencing old dads and their life term obsessions possibly get on their nerves. But dads having soft corners give them too much space and attention and thus at that late hour get influenced to the detriment of the very ideas they have stood for all so many years. I wrote about this a few years ago here too..possible.

People like her are refusing to realize that era of Nehru, India is over. They believe that if they aren't on top positions in BJP, Hindutva is in danger.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 28 Feb 2014 04:06

I think NaMo wants to do shock and awe by the sheer number of allies he gathers to his war-bugle, that the war would be considered lost by the opposition even before the first bullet is fired, first vote is cast.

Every other combination or alliance would look puny in front of NDA. This itself would build such momentum going into elections, that the voter would have complete assurance that if the voter is casting his vote for NDA, it is sure to help NDA win. All votes for NDA would be winner votes, a winning ticket.

- Shiromani Akali Dal
- Haryana Janhit Congress (BL)
- Rashtriya Lok Samata Party
- Lok Janshakti Party
- Asom Gana Parishad
- Nagaland People's Front
- National People's Party (Sangma)
- Odisha Jana Morcha
- Telugu Desam Party
- MDMK
- PMK
- DMDK
- IJK
- KMK
- Shiv Sena
- Republican Party of India (Athawale)
- Swabhimani Shetkari Sanghatana
- Rashtriya Samaj Paksha

Maybe INLD and JVM(P) may also come in!

Besides these BJP has already digested
- Karnataka Janatha Paksha (KJP)
- Gujarat Parivartan Party (GPP)
- BSR Congress still mulling possible merger

May be Kerala Congress (Mani) too would move towards BJP!

NaMo wants to go with so much momentum into elections that any non-BJP vote would feel like useless.

sunnyP · Post by **sunnyP** » 28 Feb 2014 04:30

Next up, a seat sharing pact with MNS I hope. If the BJP can stop them splitting the BJP/Sena vote Maharashtra then NCP/INC can be wiped out . However can Modi do what even Balasaheb couldn't manage - a pact between the Thackeray cousins?

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 28 Feb 2014 04:32

sunnyP wrote:Next up, a seat sharing pact with MNS I hope. If the BJP can stop them splitting the BJP/Sena vote Maharashtra then NCP/INC can be wiped out . However can Modi do what even Balasaheb couldn't manage - a pact between the Thackeray cousins?

Congress will comeback to life even after 100 years unless it's finished in Delhi.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 28 Feb 2014 05:20

RajeshA wrote:I think NaMo wants to do shock and awe by the sheer number of allies he gathers to his war-bugle, that the war would be considered lost by the opposition even before the first bullet is fired, first vote is cast.

Every other combination or alliance would look puny in front of NDA. This itself would build such momentum going into elections, that the voter would have complete assurance that if the voter is casting his vote for NDA, it is sure to help NDA win. All votes for NDA would be winner votes, a winning ticket.

- Shiromani Akali Dal
- Haryana Janhit Congress (BL)
- Rashtriya Lok Samata Party
- Lok Janshakti Party
- Asom Gana Parishad
- Nagaland People's Front
- National People's Party (Sangma)
- Odisha Jana Morcha
- Telugu Desam Party
- MDMK
- PMK
- DMDK
- IJK
- KMK
- Shiv Sena
- Republican Party of India (Athawale)
- Swabhimani Shetkari Sanghatana
- Rashtriya Samaj Paksha

Maybe INLD and JVM(P) may also come in!

Besides these BJP has already digested
- Karnataka Janatha Paksha (KJP)
- Gujarat Parivartan Party (GPP)
- BSR Congress still mulling possible merger

May be Kerala Congress (Mani) too would move towards BJP!

NaMo wants to go with so much momentum into elections that any non-BJP vote would feel like useless.

Nah. Modi has read Atri ji's post about panipat and how Hindus have to repay the debt when Jats/Sikhs did not come. This time it seems Rohan will answer and the Rohirrim are being mustered.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 28 Feb 2014 05:33

gandharva wrote: Congress will comeback to life even after 100 years unless it's finished in Delhi.

Me, I think it is the other way round. As long as the INC is in power in Maharashtra, Andhra and/or Karnataka, it will keep coming to power. The real power of the Congress is where its money is - in Haryana, Karnataka, Andhra, and, most importantly, Maharashtra. The BJP should try to do everything in its power to finish off the Congress from these states. Now, for the next five years, the Congress is gone from SA. I have no idea what is going to happen in Telangana - KCR may win. Anyway, BJP is a fringe player there. It may not even get a single MLA in Telangana this time.

It is not only vital that the BJP win LS election, it is even more important that it should win Haryana, Maharashtra and Jharkhand in the coming months.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 28 Feb 2014 06:49

Andhra mining/industry/farming, Haryana real estate and MH sugar/industrial protection money is key to INC survival and rebirth I agree.

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 28 Feb 2014 07:11

Rahul M wrote:who is RVP ? far too many acronyms nowadays.

Too much of code language being used. Hard to follow even for regulars. Can't RVP be just mentioned as Paswan? Imagine calling Laloo as LPY.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 28 Feb 2014 07:22

Singha wrote:Andhra mining/industry/farming, Haryana real estate and MH sugar/industrial protection money is key to INC survival and rebirth I agree.

And Karnataka industry contributes no mean amounts to Congress funding. Just see how closely Nandan Nilekani, Bala, etc are all involved in Congress or its affiliated parties.

niran · Post by **niran** » 28 Feb 2014 07:58

KJoishy wrote:What's this khujli to ABV's niece?

Vajpayee's niece Karuna Shukla joins Congress, slams Modi

NEW DELHI: Having ended her 32-year-long association with BJP, former Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee's niece Karuna Shukla on Thursday joined Congress and slammed Narendra Modi saying his promise of serving the country is nothing but "plain dishonesty".

Hitting out at Modi, Shukla said the BJP has declared such a person its prime ministerial candidate "who did not fulfill the duty of a husband or rajdharma when he was chief minister. If such a person talks about discharging rashtradharma, I will call it plain dishonesty".

unfortunately she is filled with the paki disease of self-importance, earlier she lost the onree LS seat BJP lost from Chatisgargh
then during the just concluded MP election she was denied a tikit so the lady resigned from BJP in protest but alas not even a lowly
party clerk went to talk and console her and to top it all she is the main culprit for the loss of BJP votes in CG, BJP scraped through
thanks to the other Sanatan outfit. all in all a useless brat.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 28 Feb 2014 08:52

Deoband cleric declares support for Narendra Modi

A Deoband-based cleric Maulana Suhaib Qasmi has announced his support for BJP prime ministerial Narendra Modi in the Lok Sabha elections. The decision has created a stir in the area with some sporadic protests by local clerics.

Qasmi ruled out the stigma of Gujarat riots on Modi, claiming the court has given him a clean chit. “Then why do we support Congress, which is also responsible for several riots. Supporting Mulayam Singh and Mayawati is indirectly supporting Congress. So better go with the BJP with your set of conditions,” he stated.

“I have studied at Darul Uloom Deoband and have connections. People are coming out in my support. Muslims also want change and are craving for development,” he said.

Qasmi, who heads Jamaat Ulema-e-Hind which claims to have nearly 16,000 Muslim clerics as its members, has also announced to hold a conference of Muslim Ulemas in Saharanpur in the first week of March.

“There is no harm in trying BJP once. We should deliberate on a development agenda for the community while bargaining for support. No personal interest should be there, which is a practice,” he said.

“When the Madani family which includes both uncle-nephew duo Arshad Madani and Mehmood Madani can change their support to different political parties in every election, there is no harm in supporting Modi. We have given the slogan ‘Vote For Change’, Qasmi told The Indian Express.

A native of Bijnore, Qasmi is extensively touring Muzaffarnagar, Saharanpur and Deoband to garner support for Modi.

“I announced my decision publicly on February 24 in Deoband. I am not regretting my decision which I took after interacting with senior BJP leaders including Nitin Gadkari, Tarun Vijay, Indresh Kumar, Ramlal and J P Nadda. “After deliberations with them I decided to support BJP,” he stated.

Qasmi claimed his campaign has support from several local clerics. “You will be surprised when I will organise a conference of clerics. Muslims want to get rid of Madani family who use Deoband seminary for their personal interests. Innocent students are mobilised for their meetings so that they can show crowd,” he said.

http://indianexpress.com/article/cities ... -for-modi/

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 28 Feb 2014 09:20

Everything's Coming Up Modi

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... _elections

kumarn · Post by **kumarn** » 28 Feb 2014 09:47

Giving Sadhu Yadav a ticket will be a huge, huge self-goal. even namo wave will not able to save bjp in bihar. hindus would once again have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 28 Feb 2014 09:50

gandharva wrote:Everything's Coming Up Modi

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... _elections

De Di Sacchi Azadi,Desh Bahrpur Maala Maal
O Gujarat Ke Modi, Tuneh kar Diya Kamal.
2014 Mey larri Tuuneh Vichitr Laarai
Vasudev Kuttumb Ki Awaz Laggai
Desh Sey Nikal Diye Dushman Sarre Vachaal
Maar Aissa Daanv Ki Ulti Ho Gye RNI ki Chaal,
Sukhi Hue Sant,Desh Bhagat , Bhag Gye Gaddaar
Gujarat Ke Modi Tunneh Kaar Diya Kamaal!

member_28173 · Post by **member_28173** » 28 Feb 2014 10:48

kumarn wrote:Giving Sadhu Yadav a ticket will be a huge, huge self-goal. even namo wave will not able to save bjp in bihar. hindus would once again have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

I agree.. No Sadhu Yadav....

member_28173 · Post by **member_28173** » 28 Feb 2014 10:57

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 133437.cms

Real Military Brownie Point is now VK singh wooing Anthony to NDA... May be just political gimmick. but will help.

Appreciate Beyond Retorics He was GOOD Defence mininstry - Rationalised some defence spending... Just spending LOT on defence does make strong military... Effective spending plz.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 28 Feb 2014 11:50

Wronged ISRO scientist: India will be safe in Modi's hands
Last updated on: February 26, 2014 16:12 IST
Nambi Narayanan

'My wife was asked to get out of an autorickshaw because she was married to me. My children were targeted and branded a traitor's children.'

'In spite of the Supreme Court and the NHRC having cleared my case, the state government is yet to close it. Local politicians are behind this. Why can't they close the case, give me compensation, accepting gracefully that they have wronged me?'

Dr S Nambi Narayanan, the scientist who was accused and then exonerated in the 1994 ISRO spying case, speaks to Rediff.com's Shobha Warrier about his continuing travails and his recent meeting with Narendra Modi.

S Nambi Narayanan, left, joined the Indian Space Research Organisation as a scientist in 1966, and was instrumental in introducing liquid fuel rocket technology in India in the early 1970s.

He and his team also developed the Vikas engine used in many ISRO rockets, including the Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle that took Chandrayaan-1 to the moon. The Vikas engine was used in the Geo-Synchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle too.

He was in charge of ISRO's cryogenics division when the ISRO espionage case broke out in 1994. Dr Nambi Narayanan was arrested by the Kerala police for allegedly passing secret documents to Pakistan.

In 1996, the Central Bureau of Investigation found the case baseless and recommended departmental action against the Intelligence Bureau and Special Investigation Team officers who had investigated the case.

Nothing of that sort has happened yet. The Supreme Court also ruled that the case was false.

Twenty years later, Dr Nambi Narayanan's fight for justice continues.

The scientist and the spy case were back in the news a few months ago when Narendra Modi, the Bharatiya Janata Party's prime ministerial candidate, met him in Thiruvananthapuram.

It was said that Modi met him because of R B Sreekumar's involvement in the ISRO spying case. Dr Nambi Narayanan had filed a suit for damages in 1999 against Sreekumar, a 1971 batch Gujarat cadre Indian Police Service officer, who was then deputed to the Intelligence Bureau and part of the SIT in the ISRO espionage case.

Sreekumar was additional director general of police (intelligence) when the Gujarat riots broke out in 2002. He later charged Modi of being involved in the riots.

On Monday February 24, Sreekumar held a press conference, accusing Modi of using Dr Nambi Narayanan to target him.

In this exclusive interview to Rediff.com's Shobha Warrier at his simple home in Thiruvananthapuram, Dr Nambi Narayanan discusses the spy scandal and reveals why he admires Narendra Modi.

Sreekumar told a press conference in Thiruvananthapuram that you were being used by Narendra Modi. How do you react to this accusation?

My question is why should Modi use me? He has no need to use me.

I want to know why this man (Sreekumar) is uttering lie after lie? He thinks people are not knowledgeable or intelligent.

In my opinion, he is desperate.

The most important thing you should know is that I filed the damage suit against Sreekumar in 1999 when Modi was not even the chief minister of Gujarat.

I have a genuine complaint against Sreekumar after his involvement in the ISRO spy case. So, it is absurd to say that Modi is using me to target him.

Why should he bring me into the picture in his fight against Modi, as my case against him did not start after I met Modi; it is 15 years old!

You met Modi in September. How did the meeting happen?

I received a call from somebody in the BJP, asking me if I was willing to meet Modi, who wanted to see me. I said, 'Why not?' I was asked to meet him at the Hotel Mascot in Thiruvananthapuram at 9.30 in the night.

As I passed through several layers of security, I asked myself, 'What could the reason for this meeting be?'

Did you think Sreekumar was the reason behind the meeting?

That was what came to my mind first. I could only think of Sreekumar as the reason behind the call.

Surprisingly, when I met Modi, he did not utter a single word about Sreekumar. He asked me why my case is getting prolonged for so long. He said, 'I understand that it has been more than 19 years.'

I told him that it was because of the games played by various political parties that it was still going on.

I told him that it was a false case foisted by both the coalition fronts (the Left Democratic Front and the United Democratic Front) in Kerala, as was established by the CBI.

Neither coalition wanted to admit the error in their judgment, as it was a matter of prestige for both.

I was not able to fight my way through, as they were both involved in it.

I told Modi what the CBI had found, and what the Supreme Court's ruling was.

The CBI had asked the state government to take action against the police officers, but they sat on it without divulging what they were doing about it.

When the Kerala government wanted to go ahead with the case even after that, the court quashed it with heavy strictures.

I also told him about the compensation that I have demanded from the state and Union governments.

In 2001, the National Human Rights Commission gave me a compensation of Rs 10 lakh (Rs 1 million) to be released with immediate effect. But I was given the amount by the state government in 2012, after 11 years.

I told Modi everything about the case briefly and said I wanted justice.

Was Modi knowledgeable about the case?

Apparently, he was briefed well, but wanted to hear the story from me. Otherwise, why would he ask for a meeting with me?

When we met, I did all the talking, while he was trying to understand why this man was fighting the mighty state and Union governments for 20 years.

Did he make any comments?

He listened to me all the time, and after I finished, he said, 'Nambisaab, it will not be like this all the time. I wish you success.'

What did you feel after meeting him?

I came out of the room full of admiration for Modi. Somebody from the media asked me later, 'Why did you meet a chief minister from Gujarat?' I asked him, 'Why not? Kerala has had five chief ministers -- K Karunakaran, A K Antony, E K Nayanar, V Achuthanadan and Oommen Chandy -- since the case broke out, but not even one chief minister had the courtesy to talk to me.'

But somebody from Gujarat showed an interest in meeting me and hearing my story. I felt great about it.

If he had any political motive in meeting me, he would have done so in the public glare. But instead, he met me quietly at 9:30 pm, and he issued no press statement about the meeting.

Has your opinion of Modi changed after meeting him in person?

I had no special feeling for him, but I knew he was a go-getter.

My only appreciation of him was Gujarat is the only state in India where prohibition is in force while every other state is dependent on the income from liquor.

That shows the will power of the person and it also shows that you can run a state without selling liquor.

I am also impressed with the excess power generation and the low unemployment rate in Gujarat.

I feel the country will be safe in Modi's hands.

Power generation and agricultural development will flourish under him, and this in turn will lead to employment generation.

I am also impressed with his thrust on manufacturing, which will help us compete with China.

I think the two countries that will dominate the world in future are India and China, and his thrust on manufacturing will give us an edge over China as we are a country that has the advantage of knowing English.

When the spy case broke out, you spoke of the role of the Central Intelligence Agency in the case. Why did you say so?

I didn't mention the CIA by name. I said a foreign force was involved. (Then prime minister) P V Narasimha Rao also made a statement in Parliament about this. It could be the CIA or somebody else.

Just think, this spy case was initiated by a circle inspector! But it ended in the Supreme Court.

You don't see the foreign hand in the whole episode; it was invisible.

That's why I said it was a conspiracy. I was instrumental in bringing liquid propulsion systems to India. I had signed an agreement with the Russians for cryogenic technology in 1991.

We were supposed to finish the entire program by 1999. But the target was achieved only in 2014.

In 1993 itself, the world knew we would become a competitor in the commercial use of the technology. At that time, the Americans and the French were dominating the scene. Russia, China and Japan also were using the technology but not commercially.

Our price was half of what the Americans and the French were quoting, and the business was worth $300 billion. Naturally, somebody didn't want us to develop the technology.

Do you blame the media for sensationalising the issue without proper verification?

The vernacular media, starved of news, played a major role in sensationalising the case. They played into the hands of the police; they believed whatever the police said.

When they realised what the truth was, they started supporting me.

The funny thing was, at that time, we had not developed cryogenic technology. How can you sell a non-existent technology? They talk about us passing on the drawings. But we pass the drawings on to all the fabricators.

We must have given the drawings to a thousand people. So, what's there to pass on? There was something fishy in the whole thing.

It was very traumatic. The questioning by the state police was very cruel until the CBI came into the picture.

How did you cope when everyone called you a traitor?

First, I was upset. I could not understand what was going on. I would never have dreamt of something like that happening to me. It was very difficult to digest when society pointed the finger at me.

My wife was asked to get out of an autorickshaw because she was married to me. Even my children were targeted and they were branded a traitor's children. So many such disgraceful incidents happened.

What helped you remain sane?

My staunch belief in God. I am a god-fearing person, and I go to the temple every day. In fact, my day starts by going to a temple.

I believed that I would come out of this unscathed, as I had committed no crime, and I did.

Today, wherever I go, people give me more respect. Perhaps they feel guilty for suspecting me of being a traitor.

Modi told you it wouldn't be like this forever. Do you expect to receive justice if he became the prime minister?

I can't predict it. Whether Modi comes to power or not, I will continue my fight in the hope that justice will be given to me.

In spite of the Supreme Court and the NHRC having cleared my case, the state government is yet to close it.

Local politicians are behind this. Why can't they close the case, give me compensation, accepting gracefully that they have wronged me?

Yes, I do have a hope that if Modi gets a chance to voice his opinion on this, he will do so at the appropriate time.

When we met, I got the feeling that he was genuinely interested in what had happened to me.

It was not necessary for him to devote his precious time to me, but he saw to it that he met me. He listened to me intently without interrupting, and he appeared disturbed upon hearing the whole story.

I was not an admirer of Modi. But after meeting him, I have developed an admiration for him because I felt, 'Here's a person who is concerned about a matter of national importance.'

This issue has nothing to do with Gujarat or Kerala; it is a national issue. He asked me specifically about the involvement of a foreign country.

That is why I feel the country as a whole will be safe in his hands.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 28 Feb 2014 12:14

muraliravi wrote:She was denied ticket by BJP and hence all the khujli. BJP won 10/11 seats in CG last time and the lone loser - Karuna Shukla

She is only loser in Chattisgarh and she lost Korba seat, which is perceived to be BJP stronghold. Not only NaMo, even many netas and party workers in Chattisgarh are not happy with her style of working.

If she really had problems with NaMo, she would have resigned party when NaMo was declared as BJP's PM candidate. She thought she could manage somehow to get MP seat, but NaMo is in no mood to play with her, so all these drama.