Muppalla wrote:^^^
and entire Twitter, Facebook, whatapp, BRF is filled with AAP stuff for a junk that has just 3.9% vote overall six state with biggest state being NCR. So in the rest of five states they don't even have more than what anyone on this forum can get casually if they contest. The Indian voter is very liberal and they don't leave anyone who contests. They give few hundred votes anyway.
wondering what is the margin of error in these polls!http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/tamil-nadu-telugu-makkal-katchi-launched/article5747336.eceThe party's flag was also introduced at the launching function. "Over 30 per cent of the population in Tamil Nadu is Telugu speaking. But the Telugu community people were completely ignored by both AIADMK and DMK parties. So, we started a new party for our community," said C J Rajkumar, founder president of the party.
He added that the party would not contest the upcoming Lok Sabha poll but would support the Ramadoss-led alliance. "The Telugu-speaking community in Tamil Nadu is contributing for the social and economical development of the state. But the community is facing enormous problems. So, the community people started a new political outfit," said PMK founder Ramadoss.
Are we seeing the fragmentation of Indian polity or is it a new dawn of Hindu unity with respect for diversity.Releasing the flag of the ‘Tamil Nadu Telugu Makkal Katchi’ in the presence of leaders from various organisations, S. Ramadoss, leader of the PMK, announced that the party would join the PMK-led Social Democratic Alliance (SDA).
krishnanji,The party has now evolved various criteria before zeroing in on a candidate. It has selected candidates who have the wherewithal to take on their political rival, wards of senior leaders to honour loyalty, and new faces with clean image and standing in their field besides a number of sitting MPs.
Former Union Minister S. Jagathrakshagan, who won the Arakkonam constituency in the past, may get Sriperumbudur constituency, as the sitting MP and former Minister T.R. Baalu has decided to contest from Thanjavur.
Former Chennai Mayor M. Subramanian, a Stalin loyalist, is being considered for South Chennai, while sitting MP T.K.S. Elangovan will be retained for North Chennai. Former Union Minister Dayanidhi Maran will once again contest from Central Chennai.
A. Raja, former Telecom Minister, will enter the fray in The Nilgiris.
C. Devadoss Sundaram, a realtor and former Trustee of Tiruchendur Subramania Swamy temple, is being considered for Tirunelveli, even though there is stiff resistance from party seniors.
Kadir Ananth, son of former minister Duraimurugan and K. Jagan, son of Tuticorin district secretary N. Periasami, have sought tickets to contest from Vellore and Tuticorin constituencies respectively. Though another former Minister Suba Thangavelan has approached the high command for a ticket for his son, it is not sure whether he will succeed.Pollachi, which is no longer a reserved constituency after delimitation, may go to former Minister Pongalur N. Palanisamy. In Namakkal, the sitting MP Gandhi Selvan is close to securing the seat.
AAp might have given a ticket to kasab too if he was alive todayIndia - Behind The Lens
Most Wanted Naxalite Sabhyasachi Panda who kidnapped foreign tourists in Orissa to demand release of his other Maoist friends has now OFFICIALLY joined AAP.
AAP has now become the safe haven for all traitors. Which is why it would be correct to say that anyone who supports AAP is a traitor and must be thrown out of India.
These AAP leeches are sucking blood of our country.
Crush them, before they ensure that India is broken into ieces by these traitors
http://news.oneindia.in/bhubaneswar/mos ... 4-lse.html
As someone of Telugu roots from deep South TN, the Telugus in the state are a widely ignored lot in terms of their political presence. Many of the Telugu origin went on to subscribe to the Dravidian ideology and very much wanted to be Tamilian and hardly brought up their Telugu roots (sort of like Bobby Jindals of TN). Leaders like Vaiko and Vijayakanth and even Karunanidhi are all of Telugu roots.svenkat wrote:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/coimbatore/Telugu-communities-form-new-party-to-ally-with-PMK/articleshow/31385341.cms
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/tamil-nadu-telugu-makkal-katchi-launched/article5747336.eceThe party's flag was also introduced at the launching function. "Over 30 per cent of the population in Tamil Nadu is Telugu speaking. But the Telugu community people were completely ignored by both AIADMK and DMK parties. So, we started a new party for our community," said C J Rajkumar, founder president of the party.
He added that the party would not contest the upcoming Lok Sabha poll but would support the Ramadoss-led alliance. "The Telugu-speaking community in Tamil Nadu is contributing for the social and economical development of the state. But the community is facing enormous problems. So, the community people started a new political outfit," said PMK founder Ramadoss.
Are we seeing the fragmentation of Indian polity or is it a new dawn of Hindu unity with respect for diversity.Releasing the flag of the ‘Tamil Nadu Telugu Makkal Katchi’ in the presence of leaders from various organisations, S. Ramadoss, leader of the PMK, announced that the party would join the PMK-led Social Democratic Alliance (SDA).
Either Delhi is retarded or the poll is wrong.It said that 37 per cent Delhiites want Modi as PM while 26 per cent prefer Kejriwal and 15 per cent Rahul.
no.subhamoy.das wrote:By why a dip in NAMO populariy in MAHA. He used to be in 40% category. Who gained at this expense? Is this due to BJP ' recent muslim apology vote bank politics? Not a good sign to see drop in NAMO popularity and to see it drop by almost 10% is alarming
If UT could not come to a settlement with MNS and ensure a win for NDA candidates by neutralizing MNS's destructive capability, then of course, others would try to do it their own way!Atri wrote:no.subhamoy.das wrote:By why a dip in NAMO populariy in MAHA. He used to be in 40% category. Who gained at this expense? Is this due to BJP ' recent muslim apology vote bank politics? Not a good sign to see drop in NAMO popularity and to see it drop by almost 10% is alarming
its becoz all is not well between bjp and ss over mns. gadkari met rt which pissed off ut. after this meeting rt allegedly agreed to withdraw frm ls polls. but ut is anxious as to what was agreed upon in the meeting that made rt agree upon this reported withdrawal.
As someone from Madras, this has caught me by surprise. In Madras, and I believe North TN, one cannot casually distinguish Telugu origin people from rest. Unless you visit their home and hear them speak in Telugu. Didn't know as a group they were discriminated against in TN.Yogi_G wrote:As someone of Telugu roots from deep South TN, the Telugus in the state are a widely ignored lot in terms of their political presence. Many of the Telugu origin went on to subscribe to the Dravidian ideology and very much wanted to be Tamilian and hardly brought up their Telugu roots (sort of like Bobby Jindals of TN). Leaders like Vaiko and Vijayakanth and even Karunanidhi are all of Telugu roots.svenkat wrote: Are we seeing the fragmentation of Indian polity or is it a new dawn of Hindu unity with respect for diversity.
I think this TN Telugu identity party will be an interesting one to watch. It will draw away the Telugu roots people away from the Dravidian base as they dint have an alternative before.
Rajesh ji,RajeshA wrote: If UT could not come to a settlement with MNS and ensure a win for NDA candidates by neutralizing MNS's destructive capability, then of course, others would try to do it their own way!
UT can't expect NDA partners to simply ignore MNS.
Don't doubt your observations, saar. I would not presume to know about Odiyas', or Bengalis' reasons for supporting AK. Can you find out why Malayalis or Assamese support AK. Assamese should be particularly worried after all racism exhibited by AAP.Chandragupta wrote:I am born & brought up Delhiite and let me tell you a lot of migrants - Bengalis (special mention with drums), Odiyas, Assamese and Malayalis support AAP & Kejriwal. These are not just any migrants, they are well to do, middle class or upper middle class working population who moved to Delhi either 1 year back or 10 years back or 20 years back. Most proper Delhiites - by which I mean people settled from UP/Bihar/Haryana are solidly behind Modi. Punjabis again are a confused lot with some Sikhs rooting for AAP. Bengalis, by far, outnumber every other group though barring M's of course, their loyalties are well known.
Disclaimer - my observations are limited to my social set & circle.
well, yes and no..muraliravi wrote:Rajesh ji,RajeshA wrote: If UT could not come to a settlement with MNS and ensure a win for NDA candidates by neutralizing MNS's destructive capability, then of course, others would try to do it their own way!
UT can't expect NDA partners to simply ignore MNS.
UT cares more for the vidhan sabha elections than the lok sabha. He knows that the only reason why RT would withdraw from LS is if BJP would give him a sweet deal in the state polls. I think UT has every right to know what that deal is. NG is a royal fool to call the media to the hotel where he met RT.
saravana wrote: As someone from Madras, this has caught me by surprise. In Madras, and I believe North TN, one cannot casually distinguish Telugu origin people from rest. Unless you visit their home and hear them speak in Telugu. Didn't know as a group they were discriminated against in TN.
Yogi_G were you contracting yourself in your statements. Pretty much the DMK upper level leaders including the top, from what I know, is of Telugu origin. I don't know where Ramadoss comes from, but pretty much all the main parties have non Tamil(so to speak) leaders. The last "local" CM must be Kamaraj(is he Tamil?!). I don't know where the "ignored" bit come from? Except for Jayalalitha, who came laterally, rest of them must have their caste/community backing as it is elsewhere in India. If you want the leadership to talk in Telugu in meetings and appeal to the Telugu roots for voting, yes, that is not happening currently.
Second is, if the Telugu origin people subscribed to Dravidian ideology, and to my knowledge, a significant part of the Dravidian movement leadership comes from there, how the weaning away work?! They are the base and the top! On a lighter note, the Dravidian movement is disowned by everyone involved, soon it will be filed under Jewish conspiracy!
Honestly I don't get svenkat's statement either.
As a cynical person, I would imagine this is Ramados's mobilization of support in North Tamil Nadu. As a significant percentage of Telugu speaking people are there in N. TN, he would be happy to "encourage" this movement. Which may lead to splitting of TN into two, as he has been supportive of that, that is his best option for becoming CM. Splitting TN in two may or may not be a bad idea, that is a different discussion.
sum wrote:^^ Dr Praveen Patil ( five43.com) says Priety Zinta (on BJP ticket) to contest against P.Dutt in Mumbai
She has already clarified it by saying that she is not contesting.sum wrote:X-post:sum wrote:^^ Dr Praveen Patil ( five43.com) says Priety Zinta (on BJP ticket) to contest against P.Dutt in Mumbai
I guess I can pat myself on the back if the CSDS TN poll turns out to be true in the actual polls.muraliravi wrote:Nagesh ji,nageshks wrote: MuraliRavi-ji,
What would be your educated guess, now that we are seeing the Alliances firming up? BJP has PMK, MDMK, DMDK, Kongu parties, IJK and a couple of others I have no doubt missed in this list. DMK has VCK, PT, and a couple of Muslim parties. AIADMK has the Leftists. There is also a rump Congress - even now, I suspect that the Congress has some of its vote left in TN. What voteshare would you assign to the four alliances? And what is the seat share you suspect will happen?
I think I have a decent feel for the vote shares (my seat predictions can be way off). Take it with a bucket of salt.
AIADMK+Left: 30-32%
DMK+: 21-22%
INC: 5-7%
BJP+: ???
Now with regard to seats, its very very tuf to predict anything. congress wont get anything. My wild guess is ADMK -19, DMK-11, BJP+MDMK+PMK+.... = 8 seats. The reason for NDA's low tally in spite of good vote share, is the scattered share of votes and not much transferability. But who knows, as i said, i am reasonably confident of my vote share predictions than seat shares.
Yogi_G, I acknowledge you worded it as "ignored politically", if I digressed it is my own opinion.Yogi_G wrote:saravana wrote: As someone from Madras, this has caught me by surprise. In Madras, and I believe North TN, one cannot casually distinguish Telugu origin people from rest. Unless you visit their home and hear them speak in Telugu. Didn't know as a group they were discriminated against in TN.
Yogi_G were you contracting yourself in your statements. Pretty much the DMK upper level leaders including the top, from what I know, is of Telugu origin. I don't know where Ramadoss comes from, but pretty much all the main parties have non Tamil(so to speak) leaders. The last "local" CM must be Kamaraj(is he Tamil?!). I don't know where the "ignored" bit come from? Except for Jayalalitha, who came laterally, rest of them must have their caste/community backing as it is elsewhere in India. If you want the leadership to talk in Telugu in meetings and appeal to the Telugu roots for voting, yes, that is not happening currently.
Second is, if the Telugu origin people subscribed to Dravidian ideology, and to my knowledge, a significant part of the Dravidian movement leadership comes from there, how the weaning away work?! They are the base and the top! On a lighter note, the Dravidian movement is disowned by everyone involved, soon it will be filed under Jewish conspiracy!
Honestly I don't get svenkat's statement either.
As a cynical person, I would imagine this is Ramados's mobilization of support in North Tamil Nadu. As a significant percentage of Telugu speaking people are there in N. TN, he would be happy to "encourage" this movement. Which may lead to splitting of TN into two, as he has been supportive of that, that is his best option for becoming CM. Splitting TN in two may or may not be a bad idea, that is a different discussion.
Saravana saar, I carefully chose the words "ignored politically" as I dint want to put it across as having some semblance with discrimination. No one is saying Telugus are discriminated but in the political scene they dont even have the political focus turned on them as say the Muslims (who are 5-6% in TN). You are right that you cannot say a Telugu from a Tamil person (same DNA anyway from Kashmir to Kanyakumari) and this absence of political feeling among Teugus, though good, led them to seek quarter in one of the 2 parties of the TN political mainstream. Note how AIDMK is so far far away from the teachings of Periyar right now, Dravidianism has imploded under its own weight of hypocrisy.
With Dravidianism no longer a must-have in TN it is natural that other identities are sought to create a party around. Maybe Vijayakanth's party was last in the series of Dravidian parties but they are even more un-Periyar than AIDMK. A Telugu identity is not a bad one but it will most definitely split the 70% against the 30%, a schism which is hardly noticed in TN, far more obscure than the Iyer-Iyengar one or the Hindu-Muslim one.
Even Nandan Nilekani isnt but is the Bluru South candidate for INC!Narayana Rao wrote:Is Prethi Jhinta a BJP party member in the first place??? Too many rumours around I guess. I am more interested to know what RT does. If offered some indirect goodies he may step aside and allow NDA to kick a** of mafia a&b teams.
Ramana Sir,
Yes sir, he does and so does Stalin. I really liked Stalin as the mayor of chennai when he put the city in order, built roads ensured power unlike this lady who does nothing but squat. She claims DMK has leftist economics, but reality is barring a few things, DMK spends govt money on infrastructure, creating jobs the real rightist way while she does dole outs to the core. Who is paying for those 1rs idlis, may i ask. Even if we were to tolerate that, she hardly has any projects undergoing. This .... has ruined my city.ramana wrote:MK is master politician who sees the wind before it itself moves.
You hit the nail, all his anti hindu stuff is only rhetoric, in actions, he has done hardly anything to harm hindus (i say hardly not zero). But as much as this lady shouts and goes to public and says (Makkal Theerpe Mahesan Theerpu, People's verdict is Lord Shiva's Verdict), she has shown her true colours by putting up a muslims candidate in a communally sensitive seat like Ramanathapuram. I wish and I predict that DMK will trump her in lok sabha seats and support Modi for PM at center.ramana wrote:My city too. I was born there.
One thing under MK the Shankaracharya was not arrested and flase cases registered on him.
She hasn't paid for that yet.
Lived in Chennai for a few years (in Saidapet, where my parents still have a flat). Me, I dislike both the big *MKs (not that there is anything much likable about MDMK, or PMK, or the assorted MKs). AIADMK, DMK are mirror images of each other. Nothing to choose between the two, really. Personally, the death of one or both the big *MK parties is a cause for celebration.muraliravi wrote: You hit the nail, all his anti hindu stuff is only rhetoric, in actions, he has done hardly anything to harm hindus (i say hardly not zero). But as much as this lady shouts and goes to public and says (Makkal Theerpe Mahesan Theerpu, People's verdict is Lord Shiva's Verdict), she has shown her true colours by putting up a muslims candidate in a communally sensitive seat like Ramanathapuram. I wish and I predict that DMK will trump her in lok sabha seats and support Modi for PM at center.
muraliravi, you hit the nail on the head. I was about to post this sometime back but I wasn't sure enough.muraliravi wrote:You hit the nail, all his anti hindu stuff is only rhetoric, in actions, he has done hardly anything to harm hindus (i say hardly not zero). But as much as this lady shouts and goes to public and says (Makkal Theerpe Mahesan Theerpu, People's verdict is Lord Shiva's Verdict), she has shown her true colours by putting up a muslims candidate in a communally sensitive seat like Ramanathapuram. I wish and I predict that DMK will trump her in lok sabha seats and support Modi for PM at center.ramana wrote:My city too. I was born there.
One thing under MK the Shankaracharya was not arrested and flase cases registered on him.
She hasn't paid for that yet.
Nagesh ji,ramana wrote:We are talking about the lesser of the two boll weevils.