Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

niran · Post by **niran** » 15 Mar 2014 06:33

nageshks wrote:MuraliRavi-ji,
I genuinely hope you are wrong about Muzaffarnagar. Fielding a non-Jat in Muzaffarnagar means that BJP can kiss goodbye to Jat votes in western UP. It is all about symbolism. BJP has to field a Jat in Muzaffarnagar, re-affirm its commitment to community. Otherwise, many will probably go back and vote Chaudhary Ajit Singh. Stupid, probably, but that is what many will do.

fikar not, saar, Sangit Som currently is topdog there, thanks to sapa attempts to finish him
unlike others he answered his warrant before time
shocking all this earned him a million plus brownie points hence his elevation from MLA to MP

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 15 Mar 2014 06:50

What is up with BJP and naari? Me liking the way Vani Tripathi talks. Seriously the naari shakthi in BJP is awesome.

Santosh · Post by **Santosh** » 15 Mar 2014 09:49

What's wrong with Assam? IIRC, bjp was expecting couple seats since AGO leaders are joining BJP in huge numbers. No?

BhairavP · Post by **BhairavP** » 15 Mar 2014 11:34

Santosh wrote:What's wrong with Assam? IIRC, bjp was expecting couple seats since AGO leaders are joining BJP in huge numbers. No?

The numbers assumed an AIUDF-Cong(I) tie-up. That has not been announced yet, it is still in the realm of conjecture.

darshhan · Post by **darshhan** » 15 Mar 2014 11:45

muraliravi wrote:http://post.jagran.com/up-bjp-to-announ ... 1392108815

This is a month old, but it says Sanjiv Baliyan is the candidate from Muzzafarnagar.

Sanjiv Baliyan is the more deserving candidate.

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 15 Mar 2014 12:48

Muppalla: things that are doing rounds is that Ramdev Baba wants some 17 seats in UP and he is threatening to not support NDA.

vivek.rao: ^^ Unbelievable! Every one talks about nation and want to screw India and ally with ITALIAN MAFIA at the drop of hat. SUSHMA,KEJRIWAL, ADVANI and now RAMDEV. People here are already demanding what to do and what not do. First, Modi has to come. He has to take over the reigns of the power. Sideline internal enemies. Get cracking at people who are openly aligning with foreign forces to destroy India internally. PAIDMEDIA, PAIDMEDIA owners. They will all gang up to unleash Paki terrorists on India. Lot of cleanup needed.Lot of it.

Swami Ramdevji is having cold feet in supporting BJP because extreme pro-FDI pro-MNC stand NaMo and other BJP-leaders took. Swami Ramdevji and most of his supporters are hard core pro-Swadeshi. I am not sure if Swamiji asked for seats in UP or India. He might have asked to ensure that there are pro-Swadeshi MPs in BJP. Anyway, I dont have any insider information.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 15 Mar 2014 13:16

Now BJP candidates being announced on India272+

Jammu: Jugal Kishore Sharma
Udhampur: Dr. Jitendra Singh
Ladakh: Thunpsthan Chhewang

Sidd · Post by **Sidd** » 15 Mar 2014 14:20

jagga wrote:Yog Guru Baba Ramdev is Not happy WIth BJP

Babaji should avoid delusion of grandeur. Anna Hazare was shown his place just a few days ago.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 15 Mar 2014 15:04

Anna has been put in his place along with Mamata didi. But she never claimed to be a great leader outside WB and would have no political compulsions except Muslim votes in WB to support NM. For long, hard and lonely single minded fight and destroying communists she deserves cudos of one and all. Darjiling and other Gurkhaland seats need to be watched now.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 15 Mar 2014 15:30

Sidd wrote:Babaji should avoid delusion of grandeur. Anna Hazare was shown his place just a few days ago.

Anna Hazare's only resource was Team Anna. He had at times, especially in his media presence heyday, a lot of support among middle class. But this constituency is really fickle.

Even Team Anna were high end activists and not political leaders or grassroots workers.

Baba Ramdev on the other hand is one with a Yoga infrastructure, an Ayurveda sales network, Vedic schools, substantial support among mid-level and grassroots level political leaders and workers. Baba Ramdev has simply a different level of resources at his command.

Baba Ramdev does not survive because of the media. Lots of difference to Anna. One can't ignore Baba Ramdev.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 15 Mar 2014 15:35

Rahul Mehta wrote:Swami Ramdevji is having cold feet in supporting BJP because extreme pro-FDI pro-MNC stand NaMo and other BJP-leaders took. Swami Ramdevji and most of his supporters are hard core pro-Swadeshi. I am not sure if Swamiji asked for seats in UP or India. He might have asked to ensure that there are pro-Swadeshi MPs in BJP. Anyway, I dont have any insider information.

I don't think swadeshi has anything to do with it all.

IMO the way in which BR was running the anti-corruption anti-congress campaign in last few years, he has had to seek favors from a lot of people and he is being called upon to provide some quid-pro-quo. Chalta hai I guess. BR will in time accept the majbooris of the seats distribution process. I doubt if he is any part of Amit Shah's worry. IMHO the simple lack of public outreach in UP and reliance solely on individual candidates, seems more risky an approach. Seat distribution is a process but then something should have been done to keep the pot boiling. BR used to do that earlier. Now he seems to be attending sabhas more in Gujarat and even Maharashtra, than in UP. What point? Gujarat does not need him while his one and twos were important in UP to keep the scoreboard ticking.

Dekho kya hota hai. Slow days.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 15 Mar 2014 15:52

Narayana Rao wrote:Anna has been put in his place along with Mamata didi. But she never claimed to be a great leader outside WB and would have no political compulsions except Muslim votes in WB to support NM. For long, hard and lonely single minded fight and destroying communists she deserves cudos of one and all. Darjiling and other Gurkhaland seats need to be watched now.

AAPtards find it strange that Mamta di scores better with BJP supporters than does their Kejri. I also recently mentioned that Mamta di deserves her place under the sun simply for ejecting commies from WB, before an AAPtard - poor guy felt strangely uneasy.

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Continuing on BR. He was the main point of contact for long in these parts. Gujarat is a reasonably big population in a relatively small area with good communication facilities with a healthy Indicised population. The stretch from Bihar to Punjab is different in that the core community that can be mobilized is sparsely available. This calls for more MSM, more sabhas and more of tadka. Whole ecological set up besides the top dog and his deputies. A simpler structure where a CM and his MLAs can control the whole population is not possible here. Witness what happened in a much smaller place like Delhi. The moral confusion in these part can be very difficult to get rid of. The larger India presents the same problem of dilution even more starkly. The middle has to carry weight all year round. You cannot just paradrop gurus once every 5 years to bless the prospective CM and a clutch of his prospective MLAs.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 15 Mar 2014 16:10

Jat prominent youth/people I have spoken are very clear - This time it is Hindu/Muslim election. Hindus are fed up with continuous mafia type Jihadi people attacking Hindus and what happend with a Jat girl and the courage with which Jihadi forces attacked Jats coming back from their meeting is unpresidented. It simply shows no one cares to note that Jats are top dogs in their areas. So Jats are bent on proving who is the top dog now. People like Som who fought for Jats and went to jail for them are welcome whole heatedly even if their are not Jats per se. Anger with Ajit Singh is huge and mafia even bigger. If mafia thinks Jayaprada and Ajit Singh can give them few seats in Jat lands they are free do have wet dreams.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 15 Mar 2014 16:34

If Baba Ramdev has enough clout to pull votes, I don't see anything wrong in obliging him with a few seats. I don't see him in the same league as Anna Hazare. That said, he should then be evaluated as a political player rather than someone with a halo.
In other news, per NDTV TRS is planning to go solo in AP

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 15 Mar 2014 16:46

^^ Saar, yes they are not in the same league. Anna is a toe nail to BR. Anna can't gather 100 people in a tier 2 city, BR can assemble 10,000 without even breaking a sweat.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 15 Mar 2014 16:58

^^ Oh yes, that's what I meant. I don't have a good opinion of Anna Hazare.
Does Sidhu have much presence as an individual? I only know his cricket innings. Can be buck the leadership and make BJP lose voteshare if he is not accommodated?

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 15 Mar 2014 17:11

saravana wrote:^^ Oh yes, that's what I meant. I don't have a good opinion of Anna Hazare.
Does Sidhu have much presence as an individual? I only know his cricket innings. Can be buck the leadership and make BJP lose voteshare if he is not accommodated?

Doubt Sidhu can do anything without the organizational support of BJP. He is not a grassroot leader by himself.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 15 Mar 2014 17:41

I have seen Sidhu all year long on TV judging comedy shows. Wonder when was he available for his constituency in last 5 years.

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 15 Mar 2014 17:42

Delhi BJP woos Muslims, women voters, runs special campaign for Modi

New Delhi: The Bharatiya Janata Party may be finding it hard to decide on its candidates from Delhi for the Lok Sabha elections, but it has already started doing its bit to garner support for the prime ministerial hopeful in the state. This time the party is trying to win over an unconventional electorate - the Muslims. Its state minority cell kick-started a campaign called 'Modi for Muslims' on Saturday.

The convention which will be held in all seven constituencies saw around 500-600 Muslims from North East Delhi attend the function. "This program will help us reach out to minorities. We'll target all seven constituencies and spread Modi's message across the community," says state's minority cell head Atif Rashid.

Not just the minorities, the BJP is targeting women voters as well. BJP's Mahila Morcha has already started a campaign to reach out to women voters across the state. Under this programme women workers of the BJP are holding meetings and interacting with people of each district everyday.
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But fears of the AAP hampering its prospects in the upcoming Lok Sabha elections are palpable amongst the workers. Especially with a change of guard in the state unit, the cadre isn't particularly enthused. Dr Harsh Vardhan who has taken over as the new state unit President hasn't taken many significant decisions yet and many workers are worried about a reshuffle after the change of guard. Though Vardhan, the president of Delhi BJP says they are confident of a victory and that AAP factor doesn't count. "After AAP ran away from power after 49 days, they have been thoroughly exposed."

But despite of the party's claims the fact remains that the AAP is still a huge threat to the party, especially after the debutant party's performance in the Delhi elections. Will the BJP be able to bring back its core middle class support base from AAP and add Muslims and women to its vote bank, through its innovative campaign strategy, we'll know only when the ballot box opens.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 15 Mar 2014 17:52

For the nth time, it seems BJP has reached an agreement with Vijayakant of DMDK in Tamizh Nadu. Source

Seats given to DMDK

Thiruvallore
Central Chennai
North Chennai
Madurai
Salem
Tiruchi
Nellai
Vilupuram
Cuddalore
Kallakurichi
Tiruvannamalai
Pollachi
Namakkal
Dindugal

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 15 Mar 2014 18:03

^^ Off the loat Madurai, Tiruchi and Nellai sounds a little odd. All are in south, I doubt if DMDK has enough clout there. Madurai is possible with Azhagiri's support

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 15 Mar 2014 18:15

^^^Sidhu contested Amritsar on Akali Dal's insistence in 2009. This time even they are against him for rubbing them the wrong way by threatening to go on hunger strikes. This time there is no way he can win there and BJP knows it.

Best way for him is to take the RS route gracefully as his presence is needed for canvassing for votes.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 15 Mar 2014 19:07

Ak has specifically lashed out against Times Now

followed by India TV

followed by Zee TV
once again in B lore

jagga · Post by **jagga** » 15 Mar 2014 19:10

Congress bows to church: Drops PT Thomas, moves PC Chacko
Church is deciding the candidates from Kerala. My question to these secularvadis, Is this secular?

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 15 Mar 2014 20:29

MJ Akbar on the importance of reading right marginal constituencies...

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.co ... difference

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 15 Mar 2014 20:48

Wasn't a fourth list of BJP with 125+ seats supposed to come out today! What happened?

Added Later:

ANI ‏@ANI_news 4m
BJP to hold a press conference by 10PM today

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 15 Mar 2014 21:59

jagga wrote:Congress bows to church: Drops PT Thomas, moves PC Chacko
Church is deciding the candidates from Kerala. My question to these secularvadis, Is this secular?

What happened to separation of state and church that is part of democracies only - meaning others are supposed to follow it and not let religion grab power. Power grab by religion can't be secular.

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 15 Mar 2014 22:00

Santosh wrote:Dhanyawaad niran ji. Pranabda redeemed himself a little bit.

It seems everyone gets reformed to some extent after leaving the INC.

jagga · Post by **jagga** » 15 Mar 2014 22:12

Rahul ji smoking something really potent.
Cong to get 200-plus seats, says Rahul, dubs poll surveys as 'jokes'
Like they say, If wishes were horses.....

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 15 Mar 2014 22:29

balian from m'nagar..

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 15 Mar 2014 22:36

Varun Gandhi from Sulthanpur. Shathrughn Sinha from Patna

member_23658 · Post by **member_23658** » 15 Mar 2014 22:45

was hoping/thinking Harshvardhan would contest on assembly seat for Delhi state elections as CM candidate. Especially since he was the CM candidate all this while so why not continue with him for the next assembly elections which would be pretty soon anyways

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 15 Mar 2014 22:50

felt bad for dr. subramanian swamy.. I hope he is given ticket from elsewhere.

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 15 Mar 2014 22:58

Atri wrote:felt bad for dr. subramanian swamy.. I hope he is given ticket from elsewhere.

have tickets from Tamil nadu been given?

He is a person who orchestrated the fall of bjp in 1998. He has to prove himself multiple times that his change is not simply one for political benefit.

For the time being atleast he has to pull his own weight. Let him prove himself in his own state, instead of bjp giving away a free seat. If he stays the course until 2019 even if he loses, I would agree that he might deserve a chance. But now, there are more deserving candidates instead of fly by night operators.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 15 Mar 2014 22:59

mostly dr. swamy will sent to rajya sabha.. RS is meant for people like him.. he should be holding senior post in cabinet.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 15 Mar 2014 23:01

Swamy should be sent to China.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 15 Mar 2014 23:01

pretty good list and well managed.

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 15 Mar 2014 23:14

Atri wrote:mostly dr. swamy will sent to rajya sabha.. RS is meant for people like him.. he should be holding senior post in cabinet.

Correct. Dr. Swamy does not have any mass support base in TN (or anywhere else) at the moment, and cannot win a LS election in 2014. Party has other works for him.

disha · Post by **disha** » 15 Mar 2014 23:46

Muppalla wrote:pretty good list and well managed.

Where is the list?

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 16 Mar 2014 00:08

4TH LIST OF BJP CANDIDATES FOR LOK SABHA ELECTION 2014