Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

amdavadi · Post by **amdavadi** » 15 Mar 2014 22:33

nageshks wrote:Folks-out of curiosity, under which constituency does Somnath come in Gujarat? Is it Patan? Can NaMo contest from there, i.e., is it a reserved constituency, or not?

somnath comes under Junagadh loksabha constituencies .....

member_28108 · Post by **member_28108** » 15 Mar 2014 22:33

This taps on the UP Heartland.Remember that Varanasi is indeed Kashi ! Symbolic indeed.It is all a matter of perception and energizing the UP and Bihar cadre.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 15 Mar 2014 22:33

Chandino Chowk Dr Harshwardhan. Manoj Tiwari - Udit Raj Northest Delhi Reserve seat.

manju · Post by **manju** » 15 Mar 2014 23:07

[/quote]The only thing I can think of is that Sushma's brief from Sonia Gandhi was to stop BSR Congress merger or alliance with BJP, so that in the region, Congress had a good chance of winning. May be Rahul wanted to stand from the region[/quote]

Amulbaba is not ST, so cannot contest from Bellary. It is a reserved constituency.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 15 Mar 2014 23:32

prasannasimha wrote:This taps on the UP Heartland.Remember that Varanasi is indeed Kashi ! Symbolic indeed.It is all a matter of perception and energizing the UP and Bihar cadre.

har har mahadev
har har Modi

kashi se Modi ji as PM is a huge image boost.

bhargava · Post by **bhargava** » 15 Mar 2014 23:37

"kaashi badlega desh ki raashi" - someone on teetar

member_28397 · Post by **member_28397** » 15 Mar 2014 23:38

Narayana Rao wrote:Chandino Chowk Dr Harshwardhan. Manoj Tiwari - Udit Raj Northest Delhi Reserve seat.

can an elected MP fight for a CM candidature??? Or BJP thinking to rope in Kiran Bedi for Delhi CM ???

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 15 Mar 2014 23:44

MaharathiArjun wrote:
Narayana Rao wrote:Chandino Chowk Dr Harshwardhan. Manoj Tiwari - Udit Raj Northest Delhi Reserve seat.
can an elected MP fight for a CM candidature??? Or BJP thinking to rope in Kiran Bedi for Delhi CM ???

yes, the elected MP has to resign his MP status and then get himself elected as MLA or MLC within 6 months.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 15 Mar 2014 23:52

Kakkaji · Post by **Kakkaji** » 15 Mar 2014 23:54

gandharva wrote:

he is waiting for instructions from the Congress high command.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 15 Mar 2014 23:57

Gen VK Singh is tapped for Ghaziabad
Man, reading the list of BJP candidates reminds of a part in Mahabharata(prose) where the kings fighting on the side of Pandavas are listed. Goosebumps onlee!

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 15 Mar 2014 23:59

Muppalla wrote:
prasannasimha wrote:This taps on the UP Heartland.Remember that Varanasi is indeed Kashi ! Symbolic indeed.It is all a matter of perception and energizing the UP and Bihar cadre.
har har mahadev
har har Modi

kashi se Modi ji as PM is a huge image boost.

Added later for double dose

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 16 Mar 2014 00:06

Har Har Mahadev!

With his candidature from Varanasi, NaMo has already electrified whole of Eastern UP!

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 16 Mar 2014 00:12

great song and timely. Har har Mahadev NaMo namah !

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 16 Mar 2014 00:24

prasannasimha wrote:This taps on the UP Heartland.Remember that Varanasi is indeed Kashi ! Symbolic indeed.It is all a matter of perception and energizing the UP and Bihar cadre.

My question is how does it energize?

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 16 Mar 2014 00:39

If Modi is development man, and he stands from Varanasi then it is clear he would start fixing what Varanasi stands for - Bharatiya Sabhyata, Indian Civilization!

member_28397 · Post by **member_28397** » 16 Mar 2014 00:41

SwamyG wrote:
prasannasimha wrote:This taps on the UP Heartland.Remember that Varanasi is indeed Kashi ! Symbolic indeed.It is all a matter of perception and energizing the UP and Bihar cadre.
My question is how does it energize?

leave it sire you will not understand, to understand how this will energize not only UP and Bihar but whole devotee Bhartia Samaj one has to be a Bhartia first. Mahadev and Shri Ram is Bharat's soul and every Bhartia who have listened to Ramcharitmanas with full devotion will be feeling Goosebumps and a very high energy level

Its a feeling

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 16 Mar 2014 00:46

Modi Vs Kejriwal in Kashi

http://youtu.be/7l90lM0-9Yg?t=2m11s

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 16 Mar 2014 01:07

MaharathiArjun wrote: leave it sire you will not understand, to understand how this will energize not only UP and Bihar but whole devotee Bhartia Samaj one has to be a Bhartia first. Mahadev and Shri Ram is Bharat's soul and every Bhartia who have listened to Ramcharitmanas with full devotion will be feeling Goosebumps and a very high energy level
Its a feeling

Doh? High time BRF has entrance exams to keep toddlers out of these discussions.

ps: BTW, Arjuna was a Atimaharathi.

sunilUpa · Post by **sunilUpa** » 16 Mar 2014 01:11

Har Har Mahadev!

member_28397 · Post by **member_28397** » 16 Mar 2014 01:13

SwamyG wrote:
MaharathiArjun wrote: leave it sire you will not understand, to understand how this will energize not only UP and Bihar but whole devotee Bhartia Samaj one has to be a Bhartia first. Mahadev and Shri Ram is Bharat's soul and every Bhartia who have listened to Ramcharitmanas with full devotion will be feeling Goosebumps and a very high energy level
Its a feeling
Doh? High time BRF has entrance exams to keep toddlers out of these discussions.

sorry sire if this hurts

Har Har Mahadev

yaa I wanted to use Atirathi but Maharathi sounded better

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 16 Mar 2014 01:18

^^this is uncalled for. SwamyG asked the political ramifications of NaMo contesting from Varanasi. Even though in my gut feeling is that it sounds just right, I too am interested in the answer.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 16 Mar 2014 01:22

MaharathiArjun ji,

IMHO, it's not polite to insinuate that another is not capable of comprehending Hindu feelings.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 16 Mar 2014 02:05

saravana saar....I am not even questioning the rightness or wrongness of it. I am just curious of the dynamics. I can think of hazaar parallels, for example if I invited a celebrity to my house and the news reaches the neighbors, they all are going to be curious. If I end up inviting a notable guru, then my friends might want to join in. So I can understand some of the energy. So I wanted to understand if it is something similar or does UP have some other dynamics in play.

Vittu thalunga saar...Kozhandainga, enna teriyum

Kaasi Rameswaram pathi namakku solitharanga.

sunilUpa · Post by **sunilUpa** » 16 Mar 2014 02:07

Future prime minister contesting from UP instead of home state in itself is a powerful message to UP.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 16 Mar 2014 02:56

shyam · Post by **shyam** » 16 Mar 2014 03:00

What is the reason for significant communist presence in Kashi? They even won in 1967.

Kanson · Post by **Kanson** » 16 Mar 2014 03:12

SwamyG wrote:As you all know, I am the BRF's Resident Ignorant And Dumb Guy. So a simple question. Why is Varnasi so important for Modi and BJP's fortunes? Gurus talk about it being a play in UP. How does him contesting elections in UP energize people?

thanks, I will hang up and listen now.

As per NDTV media person who reported from field....which appears more lucid....

1. Opposition parties taunt Modi as Guj leader; UP selected to show he has pan India appeal.
2. He will content from Guj along with UP to send messg that he is not leaving Guj behind.
3. Varanasi, as it has symbolic Hindutva messg. BJP workers see him as Hindutva leader. He hasn't uttered any word about mandir or similar things through out this campaign, contesting from Varanasi re-stress his Hindutva image.
4. Compared to western UP, eastern UP is weaker. Big leaders contesting from eastern UP (Varanasi) may enhance their electoral prospects in that region.
5. Varanasi is closer to Bihar. In a way it also targets Bihar.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 16 Mar 2014 03:21

I for one am not a fan of this contesting from UP crap. what's so special about UP other than the fact that its agri base allows it to hold a large population?

in what way is UP some great example for rest of India to follow and emulate, that a future PM contesting from there is considered symbolically?

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 16 Mar 2014 03:38

Devesh ji, this state holds more Loksabha seats than both Bihar & Gujarat put together.

Plus the local kshatrabh mullayam is super weak, and Tilak-Taraju-Talwar are hungry to vote for nationalist party again. Ever since kalyan singh ouster they are forced to tactically vote either bsp or sp, whosover's leher is there.

With NaMo fighting from UP will energise Tilak-Taraju-Talwar plus Kurmi votes like anything.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 16 Mar 2014 03:54

devesh wrote:I for one am not a fan of this contesting from UP crap. what's so special about UP other than the fact that its agri base allows it to hold a large population?

in what way is UP some great example for rest of India to follow and emulate, that a future PM contesting from there is considered symbolically?

+1

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 16 Mar 2014 04:51

devesh wrote:I for one am not a fan of this contesting from UP crap. what's so special about UP other than the fact that its agri base allows it to hold a large population?

in what way is UP some great example for rest of India to follow and emulate, that a future PM contesting from there is considered symbolically?

Agree! But only if UP-BJP had a leader who could have delivered seats needed to form govt in Delhi. If Delhi has/had D4, Lucknow has L4.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 16 Mar 2014 05:01

shyam wrote:What is the reason for significant communist presence in Kashi? They even won in 1967.

One time Eastern UP had strong commie presence. It withered away with emergence of SP post Mandal.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 16 Mar 2014 05:05

gandharva wrote:
devesh wrote:I for one am not a fan of this contesting from UP crap. what's so special about UP other than the fact that its agri base allows it to hold a large population?

in what way is UP some great example for rest of India to follow and emulate, that a future PM contesting from there is considered symbolically?
Agree! But only if UP-BJP had a leader who could have delivered seats needed to form govt in Delhi. If Delhi has/had D4, Lucknow has L4.

Who are the L4, Gandharva-ji? Kalyan Singh, Rajnath Singh, Kalraj Mishra, and Lalji Tandon?

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 16 Mar 2014 06:22

Would be nice if lotus declares kashi to be India's cultural capital (which it is, perhaps, more than any other single city). Mumbai to be India's commercial capital (again, it is, but formalize it), blr to be our tech capital and so on. Delhi will then merely be our political capital and little else.

MOre generally, need to thin out Dilli's entitlements and gravy train opportunities for darbaris systematically...

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 16 Mar 2014 06:47

gandharva wrote:
shyam wrote:What is the reason for significant communist presence in Kashi? They even won in 1967.
One time Eastern UP had strong commie presence. It withered away with emergence of SP post Mandal.

Communism in India flourishes on "old" "forward caste" Hindu core - which has had long been in contact with and defeated by organized and opposing religions - like Buddhism/Islamsim/Christianism etc. Kashi would be almost predictable, while Mumbai or Maratha towns not. Same goes for AP, Kerala, Bengal.

Up also has a long standing under-class resistance - which has periodically taken regional, and anti-elite mass slants. One of the primary power bases taken over by the Nehrus and the Allahabad clique of mullah+KP axis in their rise to power, was the under-class "peasant" movement of UP, which was stronger in eastern UP, and also had the historical militant-Hindu-monk-order resistance tradition.

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 16 Mar 2014 06:57

Well besides being the holiest of holy Indian cities, Kashi also happens to be the oldest continuously inhabited city on earth (if not the oldest) where the original religion is still at the center of everyday life. That's quite a statement. Hope to see NaMo leave his mark on the place as it desperately needs cleaning up, current dispensation being totally useless.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 16 Mar 2014 06:59

Modi standing from UP is a subtle signaling. I guess they have now ensured that they can pull it off. I appreciate the guts of this man. But it makes me all the more worried. They will try to cut him down at all costs. The only thing that they might be hesitating on is that any such attempt now, will boomerang. But at some point they will have to act.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 16 Mar 2014 07:12

brihaspati wrote: Communism in India flourishes on "old" "forward caste" Hindu core - which has had long been in contact with and defeated by organized and opposing religions - like Buddhism/Islamsim/Christianism etc. Kashi would be almost predictable, while Mumbai or Maratha towns not. Same goes for AP, Kerala, Bengal.
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B-ji,
Some questions and reply to this post in off topic thread. Your insights would be appreciated.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 16 Mar 2014 07:13

Here's from the proverbial horse's mouth: