with so many registered parites, they can just murder one of the folks to get the election countermanded to put NaMo in a spot. He should have a backup. Not that he cannot become a PM without being an MP, but why to get into emberassment.Hari Seldon wrote:Am waiting for sankuji to show up and show us excitables why all the fulminations against sussmao are baseless CTs only ...
Meanwhile, I'm starting to worry about why there's so much 'debate' on whether or not NM should contest from 2 places. Of course he should, why is there even a Q about it? Backup is always needed in the EVM era.
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ramana, afaik PVNR was a compromise choice for sure, but he was not a designated seat warmer for Arjun Singh or Pawar.
if that happens, i have a great idea.
put amit shah as PM. and then modi will be praised..
if that happens, i have a great idea.
put amit shah as PM. and then modi will be praised..
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Yep. Even if he elected as PM SS gang along with PAIDMEDIA will start a campaign on how Modi has no mandate
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Dhananjay Boss.... Done, thanks for ML's link.
Next 60 days we need to sweep all news sources and be vigilant. Some of the negative news against Kongis and Khujli may never be reported. For eg Khujli's father usurping a house never made it to any major news channel, so did the Deganga riots by ROP ers.
A Rajya Sabha route is always theoretically available, but SS type snakes and the 90 year perpetual PM in waiting may muddle the waters and create a sideshow.
A leader is one with strong beliefs, optimism, courage, understands the strengths and weakness of his team/people and MUST PREPARE RELENTLESSLY TO FACE ANY EVENTUALITIES AND MUST HAVE BACKUP PLAN.
Two seats for NM is a must
Next 60 days we need to sweep all news sources and be vigilant. Some of the negative news against Kongis and Khujli may never be reported. For eg Khujli's father usurping a house never made it to any major news channel, so did the Deganga riots by ROP ers.
A Rajya Sabha route is always theoretically available, but SS type snakes and the 90 year perpetual PM in waiting may muddle the waters and create a sideshow.
A leader is one with strong beliefs, optimism, courage, understands the strengths and weakness of his team/people and MUST PREPARE RELENTLESSLY TO FACE ANY EVENTUALITIES AND MUST HAVE BACKUP PLAN.
Two seats for NM is a must
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Alagiri supports Modi, says he is a good administrator
Suspended DMK leader M K Alagiri today welcomed the prospects of BJP's Narendra Modi becoming the country's prime minister.
"I believe there is a Modi wave. I have already said he is a good administrator and will welcome if he becomes (prime minister)," he told a TV channel.
Alagiri, suspended from DMK in January, has kept the political circles abuzz following his recent high-profile meetings in Delhi when he called on Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and BJP President Rajnath Singh, sparking off speculation about his future plans.
The former union minister, had, however described the meetings as a 'courtesy call.'
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Paisa hai parmatma
Those with max cash can buy MPs crore a dozen (Indian politics is full of dirty dozens) a small party which if it can win 60 seats can buy the the rest of 210.
Those with max cash can buy MPs crore a dozen (Indian politics is full of dirty dozens) a small party which if it can win 60 seats can buy the the rest of 210.
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India 2014 Elections: Narendra Modi, Israel's Best Friend In South Asia
http://www.ibtimes.com/india-2014-elect ... ia-1561837
http://www.ibtimes.com/india-2014-elect ... ia-1561837
Narendra Modi, the right-wing, pro-Hindu nationalist Indian politician and chief of the conservative Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), and the man who polls suggest will become the next prime minister of the world's most populous democracy, has long courted political and trade links with the state of Israel. Modi's ties to Israel, which BJP officials strongly endorse, has turned into a financial bonanza for the western Indian province of Gujarat, where he has served as chief minister for the past 13 years.
One of the wealthiest and most industrialized states in India, Gujarat serves as a kind of crown jewel of Modi's campaign, which calls for a resurgence of the nation's overall moribund economy.Under Modi's leadership and encouragement, Israel has poured billions of dollars of investment into Gujarat. Officials from both Gujarat and Israel have visited each other over the past few years to deepen trade and economic links. Ongoing mutual endeavors include projects in industrial research and development, solar and thermal power, pharmaceuticals, infrastructure, water recycling and water desalination plants.For example, late last year, India entered into agreements with two consortia including Israel's Tower Semiconductor Ltd. (NASDAQ: TSEM), also known as "TowerJazz," IBM Corp. (NYSE: IBM), Silterra Malaysia Sdn. Bhd. of Malaysia and STMicroelectronics NV (NYSE: STM) of Switzerland, for the construction of two semiconductor fabrication plants in India, one near New Delhi, the other in Gujarat, at a total cost of some 634.1 billion rupees ($10.4 billion). India not only generates investment dollars from these deals, but also reduces its dependence on having to import chips.But this is only one small part of Israel's ambitious investment plans for India and, in particular, Gujarat state. Israel National News reported that the Jewish State seeks to found an industrial development fund with Gujarat, citing comments made on Indian television by Israel's consul general in Mumbai, Jonathan Miller. "Gujarat is a business-oriented state and this [memorandum of understanding] will help both Israeli and Gujarat-based companies in developing and strengthening the industrial relationship,” Miller said. "Our focus is on increasing research ties with Gujarat. Israel is keen to increase research and development (R&D) and cultural ties with Gujarat.” Miller added that he also wants India and Israel to sign a free-trade agreement.As for Modi, the controversial chief minister of Gujarat was long treated as a pariah by Western Europe and the U.S. for his alleged involvement in communal riots in his state in 2002 between Hindus and Muslims, which killed at least 1,200 people. Although he was absolved of any complicity in those massacres by a panel of India's Supreme Court in 2012, Modi remains an extremely polarizing figure. Alas, during his years in the wilderness, Modi was forced to look elsewhere for trade deals -- namely the affluent and powerful non-western democracies of Japan and Israel. Indeed, in January 2013, Modi personally hosted the Israeli ambassador to India Alon Ushpiz in Gujarat to discuss deepening trade ties.A report in The Diplomat from last year postulated that if and when Modi ascends to the prime ministry, India's ties to Israel will “expand dramatically.” “While it was a Congress [Party] government that established diplomatic ties with Israel in 1992, it was under a BJP-led government from 1999 to 2004 that Indian ties with the Jewish State blossomed,” The Diplomat report noted. “This period [led] critics to believe that this was not just a security partnership but also a relationship with strong religious and ideological moorings.”Indeed, the BJP's hostile rhetoric against Pakistan, and the Islamic world as a whole, has been music to Israel's ears. In 2003, following the Sept. 11 terror attacks, in a speech before the American Jewish Community in Washington, D.C., Brajesh Mishra, then India’s national security adviser under the BJP government, called for a trilateral alliance comprising India, Israel and the U.S. to “jointly face the same ugly face of modern-day terrorism,” adding that such an alliance would “have the political will and moral authority to take bold decisions in extreme cases of terrorist provocation.” Later that year, in a historic event, Ariel Sharon became the first Israeli prime minister to make an official visit to India. (Sharon’s visit, it must be pointed out, as protested by Muslims and leftists in India.)But long before Modi appeared on the scene, right-wing and Hindu nationalist figures have praised and supported Israel. Several prominent Hindu figures, including Vinayak Damodar Savarkar, Sita Ram Goel, Arun Shourie, among others, have explicitly condemned anti-Semitism and endorsed the formation of Israel. India recognized Israel as long ago as 1950 -- but the relationship has complicated India's links with the Arab and Muslim world. As a result, India has taken a delicate stance with Israel, rarely ever making any provocative statements regarding the endless intrigues in the Middle East. Indeed, India is dependent on oil from Iran and Saudi Arabia and has sent millions of migrants to work in the Middle East since the 1970s oil boom (providing India with much-needed cash remittances).
But there have been many bumps along the way. In the 1920s, when Indian nationalists agitated for independence from Great Britain, they allied themselves with the Palestinians and strongly opposed Western/Zionist plans to form a Jewish state. Interestingly, the two most famous Indians of the 20th century differed on their views of Israel. Mahatma Gandhi was opposed to the creation of Israel since he did not think a country should be based on religion (paralleling his opposition to the partitioning of the Indian subcontinent into Hindu India and Muslim Pakistan). However, India's first Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru strongly supported the creation of Israel and was close to several prominent Israelis, including David Ben Gurion, the country’s first prime minister.Now, the BJP is especially warm to Israel, partly due to the BJP’s intransigent hostility toward Pakistan and Islam in general. BJP has praised Israel repeatedly as a bulwark against Islamic terrorism. In 2003, when Ariel Sharon visited India, the Hindu nationalist Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) movement stated: “The entire world acknowledges that Israel has effectively and ruthlessly countered terror in the Middle East. Since India and Israel are both fighting a war against terrorism, therefore, we should learn a lesson or two from them.” India’s and Israel’s shared role as victim of Islamic terrorism seems to be a uniting and pervasive theme in the countries relations. In addition, Israel has called for India to become a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council.Modi himself has visited Israel as chief minister, suggesting that, as the possible next prime minister, he could make history by journeying to the Jewish state. Sumit Ganguly, professor of political science and director of the Center for American and Global Security at the Indiana University School of Global and International Studies in Bloomington, commented that he doesn’t think closer ties between India and Israel (under a Modi administration) would necessarily hurt India’s relations with Arabs, “unless Modi does something rash. “Bear in mind that the BJP, when in office, deepened ties with Israel but nevertheless managed to maintain good relations with the Arab world and Iran,” Gangu Lalluy added.Michael Kugelman PhD, an expert in South Asian affairs at the Woodrow Wilson Pakistan International Center for Scholars in Washington, D.C., commented that India's relations with Israel have been quite strong in recent years, and Modi in power would simply strengthen this relationship even more.“India has pulled off an impressive diplomatic balancing act in recent years, in which it has pursued ties with the Israelis and Iranians simultaneously, and with no repercussions,” he said. “If there's anything that would upset Tehran or the Arab states (or, for that matter, other Muslim-majority states), it's his association with the 2002 riots and with a Hindu nationalist party -- and not his desire for close relations with Israel. The latter, after all, is old news.”
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http://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1976NEWDE03624_b.html
Swamy is an ultra nationalist and advocates India going nukelar--- 70's material from wikileaks
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/05NE ... #efmAelAh0
(Saeed) Naqvi claimed that it is increasingly common knowledge that Rahul suffers from "personality problems" of an emotional or psychological nature that are severe enough to prevent him from functioning as PM.
Swamy is an ultra nationalist and advocates India going nukelar--- 70's material from wikileaks
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/05NE ... #efmAelAh0
(Saeed) Naqvi claimed that it is increasingly common knowledge that Rahul suffers from "personality problems" of an emotional or psychological nature that are severe enough to prevent him from functioning as PM.
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Is SSnake tweet directed at Swamy ?
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Folks don't count on any of the *MKlets from TN. Azhagiri is making sympathetic noises for his father. The family is just spreading their risk, making fools of their fans/goon base.
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Sounds right.Rony wrote:Is SSnake tweet directed at Swamy ?
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I would like BJP to get a majority all by themselves.. onlee then we can speak something against dynasty politics.
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I had peddled a theory that using AK-420 as threat, MNC-owners and Missionary etc will threaten BJP-leaders to give tickers to MNC-owners' agents and Missionaries' agents.
Check-check.
BJP-leaders in Haryana are giving tickets to ex-Congressmen who have joined BJP just 2-4 months back, and kicking away people who have been in BJP since ages. IMO, these ex-Congressmen are agents of Jindal, some apex-Comngressmen (who are agents of MNC-owners and/or Missionaries) etc.
The chronology is interesting. NaMo makes pro-FDI statements saying that "FDI will stay" and "Indian businessmen should fight against FDI and not shy away from it". And within 2 weeks, we see secret talk between AK and Punya Prasoon Vajpaye, which reduced AK's image. Was it some quid-pro-quo? And then MNC-owners' mediamen throw more mud on AK, and BJP give tickets to ex-Congressmen in Haryana. Again, was it some quid-pro-quo? And lastly, NaMo becomes candidate from Varanasi which has 25% non-Hindu-voters and voting in Varanasi is on 16-may-2014 i.e. last day of 9 phased election. So NaMo till last day will have to cater to needs of those who can transfer votes to Congress and/or split middle class voters.
The Swadeshi rightly feel backstabbed due to NaMo's pro-FDI statements, and so Swami Ramdevji asks BJP-leaders to give promises in writing. Then Nitin Gadakari signs a letter. But we all know that promises are meant to be broken.
All in all, I had predicted long back that Swadeshi, Hinduvaadies and Nationalists will lose may-2014 election. Since 1998, I have asked nationalists, swadeshi, hinduvadies NOT to chase organizations and tall leaders but promote good law-drafts that weaken traitors, anti-Hindu, anti-Swadeshi, MNC-owners etc etc. But RSS-apex kept peddling dream than "good PM is all we need and there is no need for good laws". and so activists keep chasing tall leaders. And tall leaders become PM, Ministers etc but practically no change comes.
Check-check.
BJP-leaders in Haryana are giving tickets to ex-Congressmen who have joined BJP just 2-4 months back, and kicking away people who have been in BJP since ages. IMO, these ex-Congressmen are agents of Jindal, some apex-Comngressmen (who are agents of MNC-owners and/or Missionaries) etc.
The chronology is interesting. NaMo makes pro-FDI statements saying that "FDI will stay" and "Indian businessmen should fight against FDI and not shy away from it". And within 2 weeks, we see secret talk between AK and Punya Prasoon Vajpaye, which reduced AK's image. Was it some quid-pro-quo? And then MNC-owners' mediamen throw more mud on AK, and BJP give tickets to ex-Congressmen in Haryana. Again, was it some quid-pro-quo? And lastly, NaMo becomes candidate from Varanasi which has 25% non-Hindu-voters and voting in Varanasi is on 16-may-2014 i.e. last day of 9 phased election. So NaMo till last day will have to cater to needs of those who can transfer votes to Congress and/or split middle class voters.
The Swadeshi rightly feel backstabbed due to NaMo's pro-FDI statements, and so Swami Ramdevji asks BJP-leaders to give promises in writing. Then Nitin Gadakari signs a letter. But we all know that promises are meant to be broken.
All in all, I had predicted long back that Swadeshi, Hinduvaadies and Nationalists will lose may-2014 election. Since 1998, I have asked nationalists, swadeshi, hinduvadies NOT to chase organizations and tall leaders but promote good law-drafts that weaken traitors, anti-Hindu, anti-Swadeshi, MNC-owners etc etc. But RSS-apex kept peddling dream than "good PM is all we need and there is no need for good laws". and so activists keep chasing tall leaders. And tall leaders become PM, Ministers etc but practically no change comes.
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Here it says SS will fight the Nai Dilli seat.Jarita wrote:No LS ticket for Subramanian Swamy
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/ajay ... 49750.html
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wokay, some hard numbersRahul Mehta wrote:As per wishful thinking, there was a lot of wishful thinking in may-2009 and also in delhi dec-2013 assembly elections. Wishful thinking doesnt help. The hard numbers in Varanasi constituency go against NaMo.
please click and go through the data on this page
in one of the tables it shows data of amount of votes percentage zonal wise
BJP had highest margin of win from Varanasi Cant- 15+% and for your information
that zone had 43% Muslim voters. there!...... your thinking gone down the drain!
and please do remember then was 2009 MMJ was the onree winner from Purvanchal the second runner up Mukhtar Ansari
is topdog in Sari and Carpet bizness (and Hawala) still people of his faith did not vote him in a block as per your line
they voted according to their head, why? one may ask, simpal Benarasese are banias to the core, and what does a bania
do? make money, hence they will vote those candidate with whom they have best chances of making money, need I say more?
folks this is from ground level, i.e. from villages where non of the media dares to venture,
in UP/Bihar villages NaMo gonna get around 78% votes as things stand currently, in urban areas
it is 63-68% i.e. for all practical purpose onree NaMo can beat NaMo, no one else.
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If true, then this is indeed very impressive. For farmers in villages, price rise over the last few years has really hurt them.niran wrote: folks this is from ground level, i.e. from villages where non of the media dares to venture,
in UP/Bihar villages NaMo gonna get around 78% votes as things stand currently, in urban areas
it is 63-68% i.e. for all practical purpose onree NaMo can beat NaMo, no one else.
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The price rise is especially acute in rural areas because of NREGA - it raised nominal incomes, but also prices, because supply of goods and services, as well as supporting infrastructure, did not keep up. That's why NREGA doesn't get a lot of press lately as an accomplishment.
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When NaMo contests from Varanasi, it energizes the entire region and therefore is a huge plus for the lotus. It hardly matters whether Varanasi itself is won or lost. If NaMo gets the seats in LS, he'll become Pradhani.
Generally, whenever a high profile(that too a PM candidate) contests from any place, he/she wins. Because any constituency would be happy to become a PM's constituency. And there is a Modi wave. So, he'll win most probably. But, its always better to be safe than sorry. So, he should contest from another sureshot seat and also force a ballot voting. (Infact, ballot voting in all constituencies is best, IMHO).
As for Fordriwal:
I think he is not inclined to contest because he knows he will lose badly. But, it seems that he is being forced to do so. Remember that he has been evading and postponing this from a long time. But, again and again, some people are asking him this question. There is a video where Fordriwal confesses that there is a NaMo wave in dhesh. So, Fordri knows he cannot win or even stop NaMo.
I thought Fordri would not contest in elections itself by citing some excuse. Then, he has the option to start raising questions on elections itself. And go through the process of color revolution:
But, it seems there is pressure on him to contest.
I think the main problem with NREGA is that it diverts the labour which leads to labour shortage especially for agricultural sector.
The price rise seems to be related to rise in petrol/diesel/gas prices. I remember you posting that the prices of crude oil have not risen. But, it seems that the prices of petrol/diesel/gas in dhesh have continuously been rising steadily and consequently there is inflation due to rise in the cost of transportation.
Poor roads also lead to increase in the cost of transportation which is especially true for rural areas.
Generally, whenever a high profile(that too a PM candidate) contests from any place, he/she wins. Because any constituency would be happy to become a PM's constituency. And there is a Modi wave. So, he'll win most probably. But, its always better to be safe than sorry. So, he should contest from another sureshot seat and also force a ballot voting. (Infact, ballot voting in all constituencies is best, IMHO).
As for Fordriwal:
I think he is not inclined to contest because he knows he will lose badly. But, it seems that he is being forced to do so. Remember that he has been evading and postponing this from a long time. But, again and again, some people are asking him this question. There is a video where Fordriwal confesses that there is a NaMo wave in dhesh. So, Fordri knows he cannot win or even stop NaMo.
I thought Fordri would not contest in elections itself by citing some excuse. Then, he has the option to start raising questions on elections itself. And go through the process of color revolution:
LinkVictor wrote:^Color revolutions are not started by using the democratic process and winning elections. They involve a relatively small group of motivated street thugs who break all the rules and resort to a disproportionate use of shock and drama to create media visibility and most importantly, violent confrontations with both the "establishment" and their political rivals. Such confrontations will inevitably result in deaths from legitimate police/army or even self-defense response and this will in turn lead to a spiraling violence--engineered of course--which can then be exploited by NGOs using "human rights", "freedom of speech" and "democracy" as weapons to topple legitimate governments. The mayhem will be backed by a cacophony of Western media and even armed intervention in order to redraw borders and disarm the govt.
But, it seems there is pressure on him to contest.
Suraj saar,Suraj wrote:The price rise is especially acute in rural areas because of NREGA - it raised nominal incomes, but also prices, because supply of goods and services, as well as supporting infrastructure, did not keep up. That's why NREGA doesn't get a lot of press lately as an accomplishment.
I think the main problem with NREGA is that it diverts the labour which leads to labour shortage especially for agricultural sector.
The price rise seems to be related to rise in petrol/diesel/gas prices. I remember you posting that the prices of crude oil have not risen. But, it seems that the prices of petrol/diesel/gas in dhesh have continuously been rising steadily and consequently there is inflation due to rise in the cost of transportation.
Poor roads also lead to increase in the cost of transportation which is especially true for rural areas.
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http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/opi ... 796824.ece
'Rasheeda's choice of words "japam" and "moksha" are interesting
'Rasheeda's choice of words "japam" and "moksha" are interesting
Going by present indications --- the waves Modi is making not only in the politically crucial Uttar Pradesh but also in southern states like Kerala where his party is all set to make a debut, and Tamil Nadu where, for the first time, the BJP has attracted a bunch of significant allies --- the party is likely to do well.
Aam Aadmi Party chief Arvind Kejriwal has threatened to take on Modi from there. Alas, the combative Kejriwal will find that Modi is no Sheila Diskhit, and that too at the end of a three-term stint as Delhi chief minister.
So true.....While the Modi juggernaut rolls on and the general perception, confirmed by almost all election surveys, is that the NDA is set to unseat the UPA, unfortunately the single factor that can trip him is his own party.
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seeds/fertilizer going to Sapa or Niku netas and their goons, while normal farmers either buy it from black market or twiddle their thumbsMort Walker wrote: If true, then this is indeed very impressive. For farmers in villages, price rise over the last few years has really hurt them.
Sapa says they provide free irrigation, reality check in purvanchal onree Chandauli and Chakia have irrigation canals rest of the region uses underground water using diesel pump-sets(coz no regular bijjili ) and these ain't free, so poor farmers still depend upon Rain
the way NaMo provides water to remotest region in Gujarat's desert galvanize farmers, they say if he can quench a desert folk then what about places where rivers and streams are abundant?!?
people are fed up of sapa/basapa goons and AAp has already displayed their true character, so who is left? onree hardcore voters won't vote NaMo(mind you it is NaMo not Bhajapa)
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I think more than one seat for NaMo will send wrong signal to not just the opponents but also the supporters. If you are sending your best fighter to Shiv nagari then some amount of faith is essential. Faith at least in the supporters will to fight it out. Faith also in the opponents will too. And more than 64 candidates may just be the right approach here. I personally do not believe in EVM magic, because of my belief that bhoot capturing is still the best risk managed manner of electoral wrong doings. Risk is restricted to just 2 hours and after that everything is in the clean. With EVM magic the thing remains open to audits. Even if the audit is not allowed by the EC still it carries risk. And I guess NaMo team knows this hence the focus on booth presence.
The concern I wanted to voice was on the will of the deep state to use the EVM magic at Banaras. AK420 types are disposable people. He is not interested in preserving his own reputation because he has none. I strongly suspect that his so called reputation of killing Shiela Dixit is a carefully crafted lie. Born of plain old cross voting. Further his only utility for his masters is this kind of stunt. His role is essentially that of the Dhobi who raised suspicion on Mata Sita. Even the SABAKA combine knows they will not be able to beat NaMo in Banaras. They also are willing to go to whatever level required to controversialize NaMo. The very act of choosing Jhadu as an election symbol is an unmentioned challenge to whatever is represented by the Lotus.
I say get 70+ candidates to stand, so even if some get accidented still it remains a paper ballot election.
The Rakhi Sawant route may be there but it risks reducing the profile of the election itself. We have already seen how a gali-galoch type person can change the discourse using the MSM. Also she can be roped in even as an independent campaigner for some other candidate. After all her only utility is to hit the low blows and that can be done in n number of ways.
70+ candidates however would be a fitting tactic. Sabaka has misused MSM, SM, Judiciary, EC and all kinds of constitutional authorities to controversialize NaMo. That is their only weapon left. A weak weapon but nonetheless the whole drama is for post poll jockeying. 70+ candidates also ensure perfect deniability and NaMo does not even have to take on his detractors. NaMo can drive the cultural and development angle and retain the conceptual sanctity of his message.
Added later : EVM magic can only be a risk assessed tactic. At a mass scale it may not be worth the trouble. But in a concentrated manner it could be made to help the Congis. After all any audit that would be done would be in the new sarkar's term. Perfect rationale to create and fuel controversies and rumors. It makes sense for Sabaka to use EVM magic in Banaras.
The concern I wanted to voice was on the will of the deep state to use the EVM magic at Banaras. AK420 types are disposable people. He is not interested in preserving his own reputation because he has none. I strongly suspect that his so called reputation of killing Shiela Dixit is a carefully crafted lie. Born of plain old cross voting. Further his only utility for his masters is this kind of stunt. His role is essentially that of the Dhobi who raised suspicion on Mata Sita. Even the SABAKA combine knows they will not be able to beat NaMo in Banaras. They also are willing to go to whatever level required to controversialize NaMo. The very act of choosing Jhadu as an election symbol is an unmentioned challenge to whatever is represented by the Lotus.
I say get 70+ candidates to stand, so even if some get accidented still it remains a paper ballot election.
The Rakhi Sawant route may be there but it risks reducing the profile of the election itself. We have already seen how a gali-galoch type person can change the discourse using the MSM. Also she can be roped in even as an independent campaigner for some other candidate. After all her only utility is to hit the low blows and that can be done in n number of ways.
70+ candidates however would be a fitting tactic. Sabaka has misused MSM, SM, Judiciary, EC and all kinds of constitutional authorities to controversialize NaMo. That is their only weapon left. A weak weapon but nonetheless the whole drama is for post poll jockeying. 70+ candidates also ensure perfect deniability and NaMo does not even have to take on his detractors. NaMo can drive the cultural and development angle and retain the conceptual sanctity of his message.
Added later : EVM magic can only be a risk assessed tactic. At a mass scale it may not be worth the trouble. But in a concentrated manner it could be made to help the Congis. After all any audit that would be done would be in the new sarkar's term. Perfect rationale to create and fuel controversies and rumors. It makes sense for Sabaka to use EVM magic in Banaras.
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Then how is it that SP keeps winning sizeable vote% everytime, as does BSP... their 2012 victory defied gravity. And even now, SP is slated to break into double digit LS seats... Can mainority support alone account for all this much?the way NaMo provides water to remotest region in Gujarat's desert galvanize farmers, they say if he can quench a desert folk then what about places where rivers and streams are abundant?!?
people are fed up of sapa/basapa goons and AAp has already displayed their true character, so who is left? onree hardcore voters won't vote NaMo(mind you it is NaMo not Bhajapa)
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It doesn't just divert labour; it sets a floor on the labour cost. Now this would not necessarily be a negative is incomes were lagging or barely keeping pace with productivity, but that's not what NREGA did - it raised incomes without a commensurate increase in output or productivity. In many instances it worsened productivity because labour either withdrew from activity because they could command a higher price for their services since NREGA set a base, or their output relative to the how much they charged decreased, or both.johneeG wrote:I think the main problem with NREGA is that it diverts the labour which leads to labour shortage especially for agricultural sector.
Those are dollar prices. The local price rise is on account of the progressive erosion in the value of the Rupee. That inflation is driven by stagnating industrial output and stagnant investment/GDP (see recent pages in the economy thread).johneeG wrote:The price rise seems to be related to rise in petrol/diesel/gas prices. I remember you posting that the prices of crude oil have not risen. But, it seems that the prices of petrol/diesel/gas in dhesh have continuously been rising steadily and consequently there is inflation due to rise in the cost of transportation.
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While people are suggesting what should NaMo do if he becomes the PM, I don't care about temples and other things right now. Step 1: Disband NAC, revoke Jean Dreze's citizenship and send the guy back to wherever he's from.
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+1 to that Suraj
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throw the entire NAC in a field and ask them to run the darn farm. 5 years.
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saar Maya thought traditional tricks would fool voters and failedHari Seldon wrote:
Then how is it that SP keeps winning sizeable vote% everytime, as does BSP... their 2012 victory defied gravity. And even now, SP is slated to break into double digit LS seats... Can mainority support alone account for all this much?
sapa this time had a young educated clean imaged mascot bjp had the dp yadav fiasco
and multiple mascot so the public kicked all and gave sapa a chance, it is another matter that akhi turned makhi repeating the same mistakes of insulting the IQ of electorate. minority support can fetch you onree 4-7 seats not much.
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Apart from NAC as suraj mentioned three other institutions that would be worthy of disbanding could be 1.) JNU 2.) Planning Commission 3.) Indian Statistical Institute.
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Ji bilkul, here is perfect video I keep posting on all my 5 facebook accounts:Anantha wrote:Dhananjay Boss.... Done, thanks for ML's link.
Next 60 days we need to sweep all news sources and be vigilant. Some of the negative news against Kongis and Khujli may never be reported. For eg Khujli's father usurping a house never made it to any major news channel, so did the Deganga riots by ROP ers.[/b].
Two seats for NM is a must
She proves how Kejri's dharnas are a shield for sonia day by day:
1. Sunanda Tharoor's death is known by poison - To suppress the news kejri's first dharna.
2. When the difference between state govt. of AP and center arise - kejri's second dharna.
3. Augusta westland letter comes out - and kejri's 3rd dharna outside Arun Jaitley's house.
The same way ConParty returns the compliment:
1. When kejri completes 1 month as CM and has to face the press for answering question, the ConParty MLA stands up and starts shouting "batla house, batla house...." the destroying the conference much to convinience of kejri....
2. kejri party's symbol "Jhaadu" by law couldn't be reserved for aap until they win 10% votes and 10% votes they don't return to vidhan sabha can't get "a symbol" reserved. When Uma Bharti had made a new party and asked the "rising sun" as symbol, the election commision had sited this law and denying her. But ConParty made it an exception for kejritard party........
Then she starts bombing nukes on connection with 10 janpath - neeta kejriwal (sister) - yogendra yadav as not only NAC member but also rahul's adviser.
Sonia's letter in favour of kejriwal and his wife as govt. employees.
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Opened timesNow by mistake and I see news of 'protests erupt at BJP ticket distribution' news running in loop. Same 3 instances repeated everytime - against VK Singh in ghaziabad, kalraj misr and Rajnath singh.
Each time, there'll no more than a 100 'protestors' - all rented by the rejected and hence dejected incumbent or rival - burning effigies and such.
Dunno how much effect this will have, by way of public perception, or sabotage potential etc. We'll see. Anyway, amitbhai shah is on the job. For now. Wish Amit shah were to take up responsibility for maharashtra also after the polls.... And ex-AP too, while at it. Why forget TN and Kerala and Odisha and WB in this melee...
Each time, there'll no more than a 100 'protestors' - all rented by the rejected and hence dejected incumbent or rival - burning effigies and such.
Dunno how much effect this will have, by way of public perception, or sabotage potential etc. We'll see. Anyway, amitbhai shah is on the job. For now. Wish Amit shah were to take up responsibility for maharashtra also after the polls.... And ex-AP too, while at it. Why forget TN and Kerala and Odisha and WB in this melee...
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It is not going to effect the local voter. But will be shown repeatedly to effect the voting pattern in other constituencies.
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Not sure why Kiron Kher got the ticket from Chandigarh. They should have given it to a serious grassroots worker from Chandigarh.
Protest against VK Singh is by tyagi samaj or something. They wanted their caste man to be given the ticket.
Protest against VK Singh is by tyagi samaj or something. They wanted their caste man to be given the ticket.
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PM candidate should contest from 2 Loksabha seats. Even Devi Indira Amma used to contest from two seats and IIRC, LKA too once contested from 2 seats (though he want PM candidate back then). There is a long list of apex leaders who contested from 2 seats.
There is no point in showing useless bravado.
https://facebook.com/mehtarahulc/posts/ ... 3753181922
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Since 1998 , I have been asking nationalists NOT to worship leaders and organizations but campaign for good law-drafts. See what mess leaders are making. BJP-leaders gave Chandigadh ticket given to Kiron Kher. This is 1998- redux when Smriti Irani was given ticket in Chandani Chowk area in Delhi because ABV and Pramod insisted. I dont want to go into nefarious reasons why ABV gave tix to Smriti Irani. I dont want to throw mud on an old man's character at his late age. But reason why Pramod demanded tix for her was Pramod's famous seven star life style. And the reason behind giving tix to Kiron Kher seems to be similar. These days, I ask people to vote from Right to Recall candidate or BJP in case no RTR candidate is there. But to all Chandigadh voters, I say , "vote NoTA". Solution ? https://www.facebook.com/mehtarahulc/po ... 3839361922
Added later : One more mess by BJP-leaders. Ramesh Kaushik who was in Congress just 3-4 month back, has been given BJP tix. IOW, Congressi are showing AK as threat, and hijacking BJP ship.
There is no point in showing useless bravado.
https://facebook.com/mehtarahulc/posts/ ... 3753181922
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Since 1998 , I have been asking nationalists NOT to worship leaders and organizations but campaign for good law-drafts. See what mess leaders are making. BJP-leaders gave Chandigadh ticket given to Kiron Kher. This is 1998- redux when Smriti Irani was given ticket in Chandani Chowk area in Delhi because ABV and Pramod insisted. I dont want to go into nefarious reasons why ABV gave tix to Smriti Irani. I dont want to throw mud on an old man's character at his late age. But reason why Pramod demanded tix for her was Pramod's famous seven star life style. And the reason behind giving tix to Kiron Kher seems to be similar. These days, I ask people to vote from Right to Recall candidate or BJP in case no RTR candidate is there. But to all Chandigadh voters, I say , "vote NoTA". Solution ? https://www.facebook.com/mehtarahulc/po ... 3839361922
Added later : One more mess by BJP-leaders. Ramesh Kaushik who was in Congress just 3-4 month back, has been given BJP tix. IOW, Congressi are showing AK as threat, and hijacking BJP ship.
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Suresh Bhai Mehta needs to replicated on her.[/quote]
>> Can you guide me on Suresh Bhai Mehta story.
>> Can you guide me on Suresh Bhai Mehta story.
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The last 3 times, the satyapal jain contested and lost. He has openly supported Kiron Kher. In one or two seats like this, they can gamble, i see no harm. What grassroots worker sir, chandigarh is a yuppie city to the core, what they need is yuppies.Paul wrote:Not sure why Kiron Kher got the ticket from Chandigarh. They should have given it to a serious grassroots worker from Chandigarh.
Protest against VK Singh is by tyagi samaj or something. They wanted their caste man to be given the ticket.
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full on dhoti shivering onleee
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Lets see who could be candidate cultivated by con race who can attract votes and make NaMo's win look bad? Maybe some royalty just for this election, after all con race cancelled allowances for royals post 1960.
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His Highness Shri Shri Raul Ghanchi himself
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Hearing it will be Priyanka.kapilrdave wrote:His Highness Shri Shri Raul Ghanchi himself
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In all likelyhood Kashi Maharaj?
Btw he is a good man
Btw he is a good man