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Muppalla sir,

Pawan's entry has been a move against YSRCP by naidu rather than against Congress. Pawan is expected to break a chunk of kapu vote from YSRCP. In the Kapu heartland of East Godavari, West Godavari and Krishna, and parts of Guntur, the YSRC has finalised four candidates from the community for the Lok Sabha polls and 19 for the Assembly polls.

It is in these constituencies that Pawan break the kapu Vote banks of YSRCP. Congress is a lost cause for next 10 years in the Seemandhra region.

http://deccan-journal.com/content/pawan ... an-trouble
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bhavani wrote:Muppalla sir,

Pawan's entry has been a move against YSRCP by naidu rather than against Congress. Pawan is expected to break a chunk of kapu vote from YSRCP. In the Kapu heartland of East Godavari, West Godavari and Krishna, and parts of Guntur, the YSRC has finalised four candidates from the community for the Lok Sabha polls and 19 for the Assembly polls.

It is in these constituencies that Pawan break the kapu Vote banks of YSRCP. Congress is a lost cause for next 10 years in the Seemandhra region.

http://deccan-journal.com/content/pawan ... an-trouble
bhavani garu, All I say is let us see. The above is already happening irrespective of PK. This PK activity seems to be good for now because we consider TDP/BJP is good and rest is evil. He is on the right side for now and let us hope it brings good. However, my take is that the many visible industrialists/moneyed folks of AP has no ideology or loyalty. The venture of elder brother failed miserably and the family will be nothing at a central level to bank on. Hence they need another central pole to bank on. So the younger brother joins BJP/Modi caravan but also be in good books of TDP as it is perceived to be coming back. If you notice no one has invested all their stuff to one side in AP. They will be all over. Chiru did a mistake with no one on the opposite side and now that ended. Rest is all drama baazi.

See how the exodus is happening to TDP. Today TDP is a party of kuberas. :) Why no one is going to Jagan? If there is an iota of chance of UPA returning then we would have seen a different story. The irony is that an average commoner is emotional animal but it is all about deals.

Another thing JP was a very leftist and he actually started AAP type venture and why? (1) Because CBN was cutting down the entire government involvement. He came to limelight when CBN wanted to implement AP-WAN that would have made all Government services privatized. (2) JP is a venture from Ramoji Rao as an alternative to CBN because CBN was drifting away from the venture of TDP's movers and shakers.
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nageshks wrote: My point is that caste politics can be effective only when the castes see you a potential winner. In Karnataka, the BJP was seen as a potential winner before Lingayat caste politics of Yediyurappa became effective. In AP, the BJP was always an also ran which no one took seriously. Therein lies the difference, it think.
In KA it could work but in AP it will not work even 50 year ago. It is a bania-minded state and then you have to work around the caste+vested interests+businessmen and build your ideology as a catalyst. Ideology can only be icing on the cake but not the cake itself. That is how the mainstream INC and later TDP succeeded.

Why BJP was not taken serious? It was never into getting to the dirty work of how to get the caste+vested interests combo and grow beyond Takleef-based-anti-MIM politics of twin cities. It showed a glimpse of coming to town in 1998 but drifted away as soon as TRS formed. It is basically a party that was off-shoot of RSS shakhas. In several of not so relevant towns RSS Shakaas are basically a grouping for Brahmins. It is just not structured to go beyond that situation until mid 90s.
nageshks wrote: Why does Kishan Reddy think he can occupy the political space of the TDP, if it dies? Why do people keep claiming `Dead TDP in T==stronger BJP in T'? Why would the mostly BC voters of T find the Reddy Velama (Vidyasagar Rao is a Velama, IIRC) leadership of BJP attractive? If attracting the SA moneyed elite of T is the goal, BJP can just as easily take the Reddy eilte of Jagan (and if Jagan party dies, and NaMo becomes PM), can it not? Similarly in SA, if TDP wins and Jagan party dies (BJP should be able to throw Jagan in prison, turn off the foreign money spigot, and kill his party), BJP should be able to consolidate the Kapus and Reddies with Jagan, should it not? If moneyed elite want a new home, BJP should be able to grow by attracting moneyed elite in erstwhile AP, with just a central BJP government, no? Why is it necessary for TDP to die in T for BJP to grow?
TDP = Kammas + BCs. If TDP dies where will BCs go? Minorities + SCs type politics are namesake in TDP but not overtly Hindutva party. BJP is equipped because across the nation they are OBC + Forward Caste social grouping. Currently OBCs are taking the leadership role. The day-dreams of TG-BJP is that TDP dies off fast so that they can do similar in TG. If BCs of TG doesn't become politically savvy, they have another opportunity if nationally congress dies. They can build a Reddys+OBCs combo (if OBCs can accept Kammas then why not Reddys). Anything is possible if worked out but their actions does not seem to be like they are working. Kishen Reddy does have such a vision. His point is valid regarding if you give a lease of life to TDP then you cannot grow out of it as central government will be dependent on TDP. (I don't buy 300 seats to Modi stuff). If TDP does not die, INC does not die or new TRS does not die, there is very little room. Killing TDP is easy by calling it as non-local party and a party of Andhra and not that of Telangana.

In SA BJP has better chance even in the current state of affairs with just 0% vote share. If Jagan goes to jail, there is no real opposition to TDP. The future is all ripe to occupy all the opposing spaces minus the christianhood stuff. Slowly things will have to thaw from the current strife. If TDP wins this time in SA, there will be no opposition at all and that is the right place for BJP to be in.
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nageshks wrote:Yes, they may win a few seats this time in TG, but they are degenerating rapidly. On the other hand, the BJP has about 10% of the vote in TG, which it always had, but I can wager you what you like that even in 2019, the BJP will still have the same 10% at least.
In T, the old guard are Cong(I) bhagats. But the newer gen have a "right of center" attitude which should help BJP. As time goes by the old gen will be gone. So by 2019 I can see 30%+ support for BJP. Several people in north and western T have not only Marathi culture mixed in, they even have Marathi surnames.
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India’s Newest State Telangana Is Bosnia Redux
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... redux.html
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Newest rumors on twitter:

- Pawan Kalyan is angry that TDP is not giving him enough attention.

- TDP is angry that instead of coming to TDP, Pawan Kalyan and Lok Satta Party chose to approach BJP instead for an alliance.

- Venkaiah Naidu is frustrated that CBN is being overly stubborn as far as seat sharing is concerned

- TDP wants BJP to give seats to Lok Satta Party and Jana Sena of Pawan Kalyan from its share of seats

- TG-BJP wants BJP to lead the coalition in Telangana as it helped create Telangana, and not be considered a small junior partner to TDP there. Chicken Reddy believes BJP can displace TDP over the long run in TG.

- Also a disagreement between TG-BJP and TDP on who should put up the CM in TG.

- CBN has still not nominated somebody as TDP's candidate for CM in Telangana.

- There is a belief that if there were not so many rumors of BJP aligning with TDP in Telangana, many defectors from TDP would have come to BJP rather than go to TRS.

- Some Seemandhra BJP units also believe that going alone would help the party expand there.

BJP and TDP alliance may not materialize in TG, AP. Jana Sena and Loksatta Party may form coalition only with BJP.

So it would be a BJP+LSP+JS coalition in AP, TG.
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Which may have the effect of reducing the TDP seat share. In turn cause jagan to win. Or I am being paranoid beyond reason or measure.
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sooraj wrote:India’s Newest State Telangana Is Bosnia Redux
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... redux.html
Thanks for the excellent article. Mr. Rai gives a good recap of the Telugu history and how we arrived at this stage.

This article echoes what has been predicted by many that the bifurcation will have undesirable consequences in the long run. The unwinding of an idea called India. :(
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sooraj wrote:India’s Newest State Telangana Is Bosnia Redux
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... redux.html
This is a keeper
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RajeshA wrote:Newest rumors on twitter:

- Pawan Kalyan is angry that TDP is not giving him enough attention.

- TDP is angry that instead of coming to TDP, Pawan Kalyan and Lok Satta Party chose to approach BJP instead for an alliance.

- Venkaiah Naidu is frustrated that CBN is being overly stubborn as far as seat sharing is concerned

- TDP wants BJP to give seats to Lok Satta Party and Jana Sena of Pawan Kalyan from its share of seats

- TG-BJP wants BJP to lead the coalition in Telangana as it helped create Telangana, and not be considered a small junior partner to TDP there. Chicken Reddy believes BJP can displace TDP over the long run in TG.

- Also a disagreement between TG-BJP and TDP on who should put up the CM in TG.

- CBN has still not nominated somebody as TDP's candidate for CM in Telangana.

- There is a belief that if there were not so many rumors of BJP aligning with TDP in Telangana, many defectors from TDP would have come to BJP rather than go to TRS.

- Some Seemandhra BJP units also believe that going alone would help the party expand there.

BJP and TDP alliance may not materialize in TG, AP. Jana Sena and Loksatta Party may form coalition only with BJP.

So it would be a BJP+LSP+JS coalition in AP, TG.
TDP negotiation is only with respect to TG as in AP there is influx of ex-Congressmen *. TDP has to handle that new but good problem they have without pissing off its own old leaders. No one seems to care BJP including Venkaiah Naidu even with his Seemandhra interests and Namo Bhajan in TVs in Seemandhra. Lok Satta is also useless in Seemandhra as it is Hyderabad-only party. Jana Sena is also useless as enough Kapu leaders including those that can get votes, are already moved into TDP.

Lok Satta can't go without TDP as JP is trying for Malkajgiri Loksabha seat (http://www.andhraheadlines.com/state/re ... 28778.html) (TDP+BJP+LS > INC+TRS in this seat). Jana Sena in Telangana is joke anyway so it is useless in both areas.

That leaves BJP and TDP decisions for alliance and who relents in Telangana. If there is no alliance it will be cake-walk for INC+TRS. INC will be happy regardless of TRS as INC leaders will have control of Hyderabad as TRS is "North Telangana" party.

* Even Kiran Kumar Reddy new party is already unraveling as below links show. Those, esp MLAs, went there want to join TDP. Sailajanath who was Samaikyandhra convenor is great pick as Ananthapur will be "Congress Mukt Ananthapur". Infact Rayala Seema is "Congress mukth Rayalaseema" now except for Raguveera Reddy, an Yadav, who was made PCC chief of Seemandhra.

http://www.andhraheadlines.com/state/ha ... 28781.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7g5oxGuIAU
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^^What are the chances of TRS joining NDA post polls if BJP_TDP alliance in T fails to take off?
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A lot of midlevel leaders and rumor mongers are creating rumors. There is still a lot of time and they may take a call on April 2nd after the Municipal election results. TDP's argument is that BJP has negligible in Telangana and nothing in SA.

The best bet from defeating INC-B teams and to get NaMo max support, they should ask for more LS seats and namesake seats from Assembly. TDP will accept such things but asking more assembly means you are actually helping congress-B to win again. It is like trying to take TDP for a ride.
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Muppalla wrote:A lot of midlevel leaders and rumor mongers are creating rumors. There is still a lot of time and they may take a call on April 2nd after the Municipal election results. TDP's argument is that BJP has negligible in Telangana and nothing in SA.

The best bet from defeating INC-B teams and to get NaMo max support, they should ask for more LS seats and namesake seats from Assembly. TDP will accept such things but asking more assembly means you are actually helping congress-B to win again. It is like trying to take TDP for a ride.
Muppalla ji,

If TDP fears that on some seats TDP has better chances than BJP, but BJP has pride issues, they can let some TDP hopefuls fight Assembly elections on those seats on BJP symbol, the Lotus.
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RajeshA wrote: Muppalla ji,

If TDP fears that on some seats TDP has better chances than BJP, but BJP has pride issues, they can let some TDP hopefuls fight Assembly elections on those seats on BJP symbol, the Lotus.
RajeshA-ji,
CBN will never agree to that. The TDP is trying to show that it is still a viable force in Telangana. That is why they are making the demand that BJP agree to fight only five seats in the Assembly and leave the rest to them. Their need is to have a substantial number in the Assembly. Ideally, by getting BJP, Lok Satta into an alliance, the TDP hopes to become the principal opposition (very possible if the TDP fights the majority of the seats in the Hyderabad and Rangareddi districts, where both BJP and Lok Satta have some influence, and can help the TDP substantially). CBN's need is to save his party in Telangana. if he fails to have a reasonable presence in Telangana Assembly, his party will be gone by 2019 in Telangana. The TDP will easily concede another MP seat or two if the push comes to the shove, but they will never let the BJP become the senior partner in Telangana, or even contest a good number of seats in Telangana Assembly. Because, if that happens, it is curtains for the T-TDP. Already they are bleeding members copiously to the TRS. If nothing is done to staunch the blood letting, the TRS will consume the T-TDP (yes, the OBCs of TDP can exist under the TRS Velama leadership). As for the BJP in Telangana, it is a party of fossils, whose members were alive during the Jurassic period. The only problem is that the fossils have not yet understood that they are fossils. In their ossified state, they still believe they are alive, because the fungi on the stone they are encased in are still alive.
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nageshks wrote:As for the BJP in Telangana, it is a party of fossils, whose members were alive during the Jurassic period. The only problem is that the fossils have not yet understood that they are fossils. In their ossified state, they still believe they are alive, because the fungi on the stone they are encased in are still alive.
:rotfl: :rotfl:

May be BJP in Telangana needs unequivocal OBC leadership if current setup not functioning.
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RajeshA wrote:
May be BJP in Telangana needs unequivocal OBC leadership if current setup not functioning.
Not just in T, OBCs should become prominent BJP leaders across India. That is the best way to check mate the caste arithmetic of congress and other sickular parties.
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TDP is claiming BJP is asking more seats with Atyasa (excessive desire). BJP is claiming NDTV gave more seats for BJP than TDP so our claim is justified. Even TV anchor had to remind the BJP guy that those NDTV surveys are not correct :rotfl:

TDP is saying even in Vajypayee wave they got more seats but never won as expected. BJP can't even put candiates if they are given seats they are asking. BJP is saying we gave Telangana so we deserve more seats.

TV9 - BJP TDP friction over seat sharing part1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omrOeZblIb8

TV9 - BJP TDP friction over seat sharing part2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNWpXFfaYtc
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ShyamSP wrote:TDP is claiming BJP is asking more seats with Atyasa (excessive desire). BJP is claiming NDTV gave more seats for BJP than TDP so our claim is justified. Even TV anchor had to remind the BJP guy that those NDTV surveys are not correct :rotfl:

TDP is saying even in Vajypayee wave they got more seats but never won as expected. BJP can't even put candiates if they are given seats they are asking. BJP is saying we gave Telangana so we deserve more seats.

TV9 - BJP TDP friction over seat sharing part1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omrOeZblIb8

TV9 - BJP TDP friction over seat sharing part2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNWpXFfaYtc
The whole thing, IMHO, stinks. If this alliance materialises, I suspect that both parties will lose heavily as they will end up working at cross purposes. I have seen the like before - in Karnataka, when Vajpayee forced the BJP and the JD(U) (JD(U) was then a powerful entity, which was in power in Karnataka) to work together in 1999. Except the chemistry of the alliance was all wrong. BJP ended up sabotaging the election of the JD(U) bigwigs, and JD(U) ended up destroying BJP leaders. Only result was that both the BJP and the JD(U) had destroyed each others' leaders, wiping out each other everywhere in the state. Better for the BJP and the TDP to go separately, and then tie up post poll, if there is any need. Neither party is responsible for the other, so they should just carry their own loads as best as they can. It is useless to force a marriage of unwilling, even inimical, partners. It will only end in disaster.

Mark this post. If the alliance happens, TRS and Cong will be the governing and principal opposition parties. Both TDP and BJP will suffer heavily, losing their seats. Neither will cross 20 seats. The only good thing I can see coming out of this is that TDP may sabotage Chicken Reddy, and end up causing his defeat. Upon his defeat, he can be dumped in the Hussain Sagar (Given his fossilised condition, he will sink faster than the statue of Krishnadeva Raya in the lake), and hopefully, a new less fossilised leader, and someone of interest to the people of Telangana rather than to palaeontologists can be elected in his place to take over Telangana BJP.
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nageshks ji,

Mark my post too. :). I don't think any survey is credible as far as AP is concerned. I am convinced on that part. If the alliance between TDP and BJP happens in TG with right combination then here is my take.
The right justice of alliance should be:
(1) In LS it should be 9 BJP 8TDP. The city based seats should go to TDP otherwise the contest backfires.
(2) In assembly it should max of 30 out of 119 seats for BJP and rest should go to TDP. The combination should go with an OBC CM candidate.

If the above happens, TRS, INC or TRS+INC will be given a run for their money. Suddenly you will see noise such as TDP recovery.

Everything else that is being orchestrated has a deep rooted hatred involved. This orchestration and spins that are being spun has a very different and extremely local elite fights. It is all pretty nasty. TDP having a say in any part of Telangana governance is huge no-no and this is more important than anything else. People will put is different lingo but this is the bottom line.

If someone is thinking that TRS victory is cake walk then they are all in illusions.
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Muppalla wrote:nageshks ji,

Mark my post too. :). I don't think any survey is credible as far as AP is concerned. I am convinced on that part. If the alliance between TDP and BJP happens in TG with right combination then here is my take.
The right justice of alliance should be:
(1) In LS it should be 9 BJP 8TDP. The city based seats should go to TDP otherwise the contest backfires.
(2) In assembly it should max of 30 out of 119 seats for BJP and rest should go to TDP. The combination should go with an OBC CM candidate.

If the above happens, TRS, INC or TRS+INC will be given a run for their money. Suddenly you will see noise such as TDP recovery.

Everything else that is being orchestrated has a deep rooted hatred involved. This orchestration and spins that are being spun has a very different and extremely local elite fights. It is all pretty nasty. TDP having a say in any part of Telangana governance is huge no-no and this is more important than anything else. People will put is different lingo but this is the bottom line.

If someone is thinking that TRS victory is cake walk then they are all in illusions.
Muppalla-garu,
You are right that no survey is true. And you are also right that the T-TDP is still much much stronger than the BJP. But I am saying that if your combination alliance is compelled by the Central BJP, the local Telangana leaders, such as they are, will sabotage the alliance to the extent that they will get the cadres to vote for the TRS, or Congress, or maybe even the MIM, just to defeat the TDP. The amount of hatred for CBN in T-BJP is so phenomenal that nothing short of him being sacrificed in front of them can cure it. From their perspective, a betrayer of Telangana (CBN) is being rewarded with the bulk of the Assembly seats at the expense of those who worked for Telangana (BJP), and they would rather destroy their own party rather than let the fruits of their labour (that is how they see the creation of Telangana) go to the Telangana Betrayer TDP. It matters little that they cannot win Assembly elections on their own. For the bulk of them, it is the ability to contest in the Assembly election that is the prize. If they can't have it, they will damn well make sure that the TDP does not get to enjoy it either.

By the way, this is precisely what happened to the JD(U) BJP alliance in Karnataka. Arithmetic added up, chemistry did not. BJP+JD(U) should have handsomely defeated the Congress. Yet, the Congress beat the BJP-JD(U) alliance 2:1 in terms of seats.
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As of today the BJP is the stronger party in Telangana compared to TDP. CBN is an opportunistic fox,
who won in 1999 because of the BJP. He thinks he can fool it a second time. Modi and Kishen Reddy
should not agree to anything less than 50 assembly seats in Telangana. They can split the MP seats.
The TDP will be wiped out in Telangana without the BJP. So let it commit suicide, if the fox insists on
stunts like only 5 assembly seats for the BJP.

Even in Andhra, CBN can win only with Modi's help. He needs the BJP more than the BJP needs him.
Otherwise, he would have still pretended to be secular.
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kittigadu wrote:As of today the BJP is the stronger party in Telangana compared to TDP. Even in Andhra, CBN can win only with Modi's help
:rotfl:

In other news,

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RK of ABN Andhrajyothy analysis

http://www.andhrajyothy.com/node/78291

1. Rahul Gandhi and INC were advised (by Ramoji Rao ?) that Telangana division would weaken existing Reddy and Kamma power groupings, while strengthens other caste groupings. However, it did not happen. CBN was advised by same person in 2009 which costed him dearly.

2. In Telangana state, from now on, Kamma and Muslim votes are critical. Many caste clashes are going to occur in future.

3. KCR wants TDP defeated even in Rayala Seema and Coast so that TTDP would not recover. KCR may align with INC after muncipal election if TRS does not perform well.

4. TDP is strong in cities while YSRCP is strong in rural areas. CBN should not get carried away with many INC leaders joining TDP.
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kittigadu wrote:As of today the BJP is the stronger party in Telangana compared to TDP. CBN is an opportunistic fox,
who won in 1999 because of the BJP. He thinks he can fool it a second time. Modi and Kishen Reddy
should not agree to anything less than 50 assembly seats in Telangana. They can split the MP seats.
The TDP will be wiped out in Telangana without the BJP. So let it commit suicide, if the fox insists on
stunts like only 5 assembly seats for the BJP.

Even in Andhra, CBN can win only with Modi's help. He needs the BJP more than the BJP needs him.
Otherwise, he would have still pretended to be secular
.
Vammo :rotfl: :rotfl:

then why are the congress and other party leaders joining TDP and not BJP OR YSRC
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gpati wrote:RK of ABN Andhrajyothy analysis

http://www.andhrajyothy.com/node/78291

1. Rahul Gandhi and INC were advised (by Ramoji Rao ?) that Telangana division would weaken existing Reddy and Kamma power groupings, while strengthens other caste groupings. However, it did not happen. CBN was advised by same person in 2009 which costed him dearly.

2. In Telangana state, from now on, Kamma and Muslim votes are critical. Many caste clashes are going to occur in future.

3. KCR wants TDP defeated even in Rayala Seema and Coast so that TTDP would not recover. KCR may align with INC after muncipal election if TRS does not perform well.

4. TDP is strong in cities while YSRCP is strong in rural areas. CBN should not get carried away with many INC leaders joining TDP.
1. The editor says "దీనికితోడు కొప్పుల రాజు అనే మాజీ ఐఏఎస్ అధికారి ఇచ్చిన సలహా కూడా తోడైంది". Was Ramoji Rao a former IAS officer ? As far as i know he is very anti-congress and would not advice RG and INC.

2. That will be the biggest irony. Telangana agitation was supposed to liberate T-vadis from the coastal and settler Kamma oppressors and capitalists.Now their voting power will only increase in a separate state and hence their political power ? :rotfl:

Muslim factor is not a surprise. It was known from the beginning that once separate T forms, Muslim power will only increase. But the question is how far BJP will turn this into its advantage

3. Sounds plausible.

4. Sounds plausible.
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Nagarjuna all set to join BJP - IndiaGlitz
Another top actor's political entry is on the cards. After Pawan Kalyan's sensational political entry of late, now it is Akkineni Nagarjuna's turn to enter politics.

According to news from very reliable sources, Nagarjuna is all set to join Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP). The sources also say that it is Nagarjuna's admiration for Narendra Modi, that has led him to take this decision and he is ready to campaign for BJP in the upcoming elections.

Nagarjuna has even called BJP chief Venkaiah Naidu and expressed his desire to join the party.

It is well known that Pawan Kalyan has lent his Jana Sena's party's full support to Narendra Modi led BJP and there is also a news that circled around in the recent past that BJP has offered a seat to Akkineni Amala to contest from Vijayawada. With many actors seeking a political career this time, the upcoming elections will be sure full of star glitz.
If it is true, goodbye to INC (even in T) and its chela YSRCP in AP.
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ANR was life long Congress as opposition to NTR. Now son joins BJP after father dies!
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kmkraoind wrote:Nagarjuna all set to join BJP - IndiaGlitz
If it is true, goodbye to INC (even in T) and its chela YSRCP in AP.
Isn't there reports that Kavuri Sambasiva Rao also going to join BJP ? With Purandheswari, Kavuri, Nagarjuna (all Kammas) and Pawan Kalyan (Kapu), BJP if it plays its cards well can plant its flag in AP in a seat or two.
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TDP has seemingly put a board saying no new entrants in SA will be given tickets. If you want to join, join- but expect no tickets. The overflow seems to be going towards BJP.

I do not think nagarjuna will join BJP. He has business interests which are bi partisan, except for TRS.
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ramana wrote:ANR was life long Congress as opposition to NTR. Now son joins BJP after father dies!
After NTR became CM, ANR went to NTR for some favors and NTR did not oblige it, so to oppose NTR he just become a Congi.

Typical to his Cong culture, YSR harassed both Krishna (Padmalaya studio) and ANR (Annapoorna studio) for monies and overt political support. This etched some bad feelings for them on Cong, but kept quiet because they have no options. Now they are seeing hope in BJP (NaMo's non-interference attitudes), so they are scurrying for political cover and BJP is natural choice and is becoming a political force in AP

Moreover, the AP split has put whole Tollywood industry into a spot, so they can take a sweet revenge by supporting Cong's main political rival BJP. JMT.
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More than that. The telugu film industry is based in Telangana, hyderabad but dominated by people from Seemandhra.

They will need to have protection against TRS violence. During the agitation peak time, TRS charged 50 lakh to 1 crore to release it in various telangana theatres.

They cant join TRS because of caste and seemandhra roots. Who can they go for protection?
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maitas66 ‏@chinmaykrvd 34m
Putting speculation to rest BJP to finalize alliance with TDP.Getting 54 MLA and 11 MP seats.Announcement date to be finalized by PJ and AJ

This may be in both states put together.
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RajeshA wrote:maitas66 ‏@chinmaykrvd 34m
Putting speculation to rest BJP to finalize alliance with TDP.Getting 54 MLA and 11 MP seats.Announcement date to be finalized by PJ and AJ

This may be in both states put together.
Yes, I am almost certain it is in both states. 39 in Telangana, but 9 for Lok Satta (to come from the BJP quota), and 15 in SA. Or maybe it is 44 in T and 10 in SA. BJP will get probably 7 MP seats in T, and 4 in SA (or maybe 8-3).

Don't know how state BJP units will take it, though. Should be watched in the next few days. But anyway, can kiss goodbye to BJP growth in both states for the next 5 years (not that it was very likely even without the deal, though).
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TDPs Revanth Reddy is blasting JP and loksatta left and right on TV - (Malkajgiri rivalry ?). Says he does not know about TDP-BJP alliance talk , will oppose alliance with JP.There is every chance that if he does not get Malkajgiri seat, he will turn rouge and jump the fence.
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BJP can win 3-4 seats in AP on its own. There is no need to accept TDPs low-ball offer, for it will
be a 1999 redux of use and throw.

This is a life or death election for CBN. He is even considering an alliance with the BJP only for this reason.
He will come down, for he has to ensure a 100% chance of victory

A fair share would be:
Telangana: 50 out of 119 assembly seats
8 out of 17 Lok sabha seats

Andhra: 25 out of 175 assembly seats
4 out of 25 Lok Sabha seats
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CBN at Brahmin Chaitanya Vedika . Brahmins are traditionally anti-TDP and pro-congress.If they move towards TDP, that would be a big thing.

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Here is Asaduddin Owaisi, the open Islamic Bully of India threatening Pawan Kalyan. Wondering what happened to constitutional right protectors like NDTV, CNN Couple etc.

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Its an Eenadu snapshot. The gist is: Asaduddin is cribbing why Modi is getting that much of media coverage, and lastly he is threatening Pawan Kalyan for meeting Modi, telling him, we will not let release his movies in Hyderabad.
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kmkraoind wrote:Nagarjuna all set to join BJP - IndiaGlitz
If it is true, goodbye to INC (even in T) and its chela YSRCP in AP.
Rony wrote: Isn't there reports that Kavuri Sambasiva Rao also going to join BJP ? With Purandheswari, Kavuri, Nagarjuna (all Kammas) and Pawan Kalyan (Kapu), BJP if it plays its cards well can plant its flag in AP in a seat or two.
Just take deep breath and think. There are movers and shakers who just don't want to see the "damn" CBN back. CBN in the situation want o go for a kill and want to go with an alliance with BJP. Now that it is more and more becoming a one way traffic, the movers and shakers want to create an exodus to BJP so that first TDP+BJP doesn't happen. Whether BJP wins few or not is not important. The most important thing is that TDP should not have a free ride. This clearly tells that Jagan, INC and probably long shot TRS may not shake any legs.
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Rony wrote:CBN at Brahmin Chaitanya Vedika . Brahmins are traditionally anti-TDP and pro-congress.If they move towards TDP, that would be a big thing.

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This is like 90% of Pakistanis becoming Hindus type moment :)
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