AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 24 Mar 2014 03:01

Piqued Paritala family may cross over to BJP

http://www.samachar.com/Piqued-Paritala ... chcci.html

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 24 Mar 2014 04:22

gandharva wrote:Piqued Paritala family may cross over to BJP

http://www.samachar.com/Piqued-Paritala ... chcci.html

This would be a big catch for BJP if it happens

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 24 Mar 2014 04:36

Rony wrote: This would be a big catch for BJP if it happens

What is interesting to me is why they are considering BJP instead of Jagan's party, or KKR's party or even Pawan Kalyan's party. Isn't BJP at the bottom in SA? Why would anyone want to join BJP?

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 24 Mar 2014 04:40

nageshks wrote: What is interesting to me is why they are considering BJP instead of Jagan's party, or KKR's party or even Pawan Kalyan's party. Isn't BJP at the bottom in SA? Why would anyone want to join BJP?

There is no "I hate BJP" in SA as those with magnifying glasses had depicted on this forum a month ago. Watch the space called SA, it will slowly become TDP Vs BJP on a future date. There will be no congress and once Jagan goes to jail, there will be a lot who will have to find a home and it will be BJP because there will be BJP rule at the center. With Amit Shah types, this time BJP will not miss the bus.

Future will be fine but I am more concerned about current election onlee.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 24 Mar 2014 04:51

Muppalla wrote: This is like 90% of Pakistanis becoming Hindus type moment

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 24 Mar 2014 04:53

nageshks wrote:What is interesting to me is why they are considering BJP instead of Jagan's party, or KKR's party or even Pawan Kalyan's party. Isn't BJP at the bottom in SA? Why would anyone want to join BJP?

There were rumors after Paritala's death that YSR and Jagan orchestrated it. Joining Jagan's party is like joining enemy's party for them. KKR party has no future as is PK's party . What we are seeing in AP is rejected/discarded/angry with TDP Kammas are joining BJP.BJP in AP is becoming like a second home for Kammas. It is just a trickle at this moment but like in Telangana, if by any chance (which is at the moment nill) TDP goes down in AP, their entire voting block might shift to BJP. NTR and TDP highjacked BJP agenda in 80s. If there is no TDP, all those voting for TDP will vote for BJP.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 24 Mar 2014 04:54

Muppalla wrote:This is like 90% of Pakistanis becoming Hindus type moment

Very apt description

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 24 Mar 2014 04:54

RamaY wrote:
Muppalla wrote: This is like 90% of Pakistanis becoming Hindus type moment

Who is converting CBN or Brahmins of AP?

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 24 Mar 2014 05:03

gandharva wrote: Who is converting CBN or Brahmins of AP?

Both. Times are changing and people are moving on based on the new realities. Also, generational changes are happening and priorities are different. To be fair CBN was never a casteist like others who are/were in his party and like certain movers and shakers of TDP. A very big topic and we can cover some other time

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 24 Mar 2014 05:11

Muppalla wrote: There are movers and shakers who just don't want to see the "damn" CBN back.

Muppala garu, when you have some time in the future, please write about this. Sounds interesting

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 24 Mar 2014 05:53

Muppalla wrote: Both. Times are changing and people are moving on based on the new realities. Also, generational changes are happening and priorities are different. To be fair CBN was never a casteist like others who are/were in his party and like certain movers and shakers of TDP. A very big topic and we can cover some other time

Bullseye Muppala garu.

Remember samvada with Ashok Gattipati?

I think CBN successfully took over control of TDP from the mover/shaker group before 2009. That led to some of these moving to Congress and making it their new home. Now that ship is sinking they all line up to BJP.

CBN on the other hand is making the next transformation. I think he will go Srikakula Andhramahavishnu way.

PK is insurance policy by Arvind, IMO. He will be useful for now.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 24 Mar 2014 06:07

Chandrababu Naidu Meet the People Program with AP journalists forum

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 24 Mar 2014 07:17

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 24 Mar 2014 07:32

gandharva wrote:

Its either because he wants to put pressure on TDP to favor potluri vara prasad or the negotiations already took place behind the scene and failed.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 24 Mar 2014 07:34

gandharva wrote:

Muppalla-garu,
Another dead accurate prediction from you. So - you foresaw that this guy's agenda much before, didn't you? He will support BJP, but not TDP. So it is the thin edge of the blade inserted into the cracks to prise the alliance open, much before it happens, or even if it happens, to contain the damage it might do?

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 24 Mar 2014 07:35

Rony wrote:
nageshks wrote:What is interesting to me is why they are considering BJP instead of Jagan's party, or KKR's party or even Pawan Kalyan's party. Isn't BJP at the bottom in SA? Why would anyone want to join BJP?
There were rumors after Paritala's death that YSR and Jagan orchestrated it. Joining Jagan's party is like joining enemy's party for them. KKR party has no future as is PK's party . What we are seeing in AP is rejected/discarded/angry with TDP Kammas are joining BJP.BJP in AP is becoming like a second home for Kammas. It is just a trickle at this moment but like in Telangana, if by any chance (which is at the moment nill) TDP goes down in AP, their entire voting block might shift to BJP. NTR and TDP highjacked BJP agenda in 80s. If there is no TDP, all those voting for TDP will vote for BJP.

Thanks, Rony-ji. Explains her interest in BJP.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 24 Mar 2014 08:31

what we are seeing is civil war without the violence.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 24 Mar 2014 08:39

devesh wrote:what we are seeing is civil war without the violence.

Perhaps you would explain fully, Devesh-ji? What are the factions, their allies and objectives?

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 24 Mar 2014 08:47

I'm not that knowledgeable of the political parties and factions of AP to fully understand how each faction is operating. one hallmark of civil wars (in the early stages) is the gradual collapse of old agreements and conflict resolution mechanisms. this sounds complicated: but in reality all this means is that all the various alliances/wheel-greasing/lobbying of the existing political order can no longer fully capture the pool of political ambitions and forces.

as I've said before, I cannot claim any deeper info most of the times because I have only limited access to a few sources who are usually quite accurate in their analysis. what I hear is that even they are not entirely sure if the alliances forming for 2014 will last any significant amount of time.

in other words, everything that is happening now: will NOT have the lasting potential to be the "new" political combination. arrangements and alliances are being made which are transient, and will reveal themselves to be ultimately quite ineffectual when it comes to their sustainability.

or that is what I'm led to believe. we'll see how it goes.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 24 Mar 2014 09:08

nageshks wrote:What is interesting to me is why they are considering BJP instead of Jagan's party, or KKR's party or even Pawan Kalyan's party. Isn't BJP at the bottom in SA? Why would anyone want to join BJP?

Who will join Jagan's party? Except in NDTV and other media surveys, no one who has head over neck will join his party. In AP regionalism is all namesake. The party got to have central connection. Jagan himself has thin line between jail and bail. His masters are losing badly in India. You have 100 million and why will you invest in such crap? Only those who will go to jail if he does not win will be with him.

Rony wrote: There were rumors after Paritala's death that YSR and Jagan orchestrated it. Joining Jagan's party is like joining enemy's party for them. KKR party has no future as is PK's party . What we are seeing in AP is rejected/discarded/angry with TDP Kammas are joining BJP.BJP in AP is becoming like a second home for Kammas. It is just a trickle at this moment but like in Telangana, if by any chance (which is at the moment nill) TDP goes down in AP, their entire voting block might shift to BJP. NTR and TDP highjacked BJP agenda in 80s. If there is no TDP, all those voting for TDP will vote for BJP.

Rony garu, the question that you asked, without too much detail here it is. But you will get answers on your own as time progresses and events are unfolding pretty fast

. All of them are not rejected/discarded. They are all very well motivated and virulently anti-CBN and that has both historical and ideological reasons. Time is too short for these folks and for this round CBN will probably prevail. The interesting thing is that these folks joining BJP are actually ideologically at odds with BJP's main philosophy but off late started putting bigger tilaks

.

The interesting thing will be when Jagan goes to jail and want to see the exodus at that time

. Nagarjuna rumor is red-herring as he is very very close to YCP. If such things happen, that means they are already started taking shelter. Pawan Kalyan is just agent of Chiru and I don't believe anything else.

The track of JP going to BJP is all that you need for analysis. Nothing else is required for this behavior. I wrote this before in T thread and also in election threads five years ago too. The Kammas of Krishna/Godavari/Guntur districts are far different from those of Seema. These guys does not want to see CBN. Lagadapati, Kavuri, Renuka, Akkinenis, Gattamanenis are all very much in this club. These are famous but there are several unknowns too in this club. Ramoji Rao is head of the family for this club. In fact NTR is part of this club but not CBN. (Even in US, Kammas have two big NATA type orgs. One is poor kammas 1million dollar stuff but the other one is 100millon plus stuff. These folks call Clintons and Purandareswari at the same time. ) ABN, TV9, TV5, NTV and a lot more media is with this group.

Now just imagine by closing eyes and think that CBN is BJP and this group is TDP. You will never ever see the about Brahmin-CBN type meets and CBN declaring 500 cr package in every meeting for poor Brahmins

.

Here is where the theory of BJP's fault line of allowing T to form gets traction. The idea was to create a massive exodus of 100 million dollar club to BJP as an alternative to Jagan and TDP. They begged for a breathing space. Believe it or not, Modi wanted to stop the bifurcation because he has experience in handling such stuff but thing just did not work that way. As I said before the acrimony/emotion will be forgotten very shortly and the discussion will be next million dollar

. That has already started.

The caste lines, ideological lines are all blurred even though we still talk using the past. It is like Microsoft Vs Google kind of stuff

Who are getting really shafted politically? The EJs.

Interestingly the last phase of elections is AP for the churn to take interesting turns.

For now, I want no Jagan and I want TDP to win in AP. In TG, if INC loses that is a great thing to happen for the common Telugus to get out of decade old rot. Let Modi and CBN rule for five years. Let these movers and shakers do their plots afterwards.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 24 Mar 2014 09:08

Muppalla wrote:
Rony wrote:CBN at Brahmin Chaitanya Vedika . Brahmins are traditionally anti-TDP and pro-congress.If they move towards TDP, that would be a big thing. <snip image>
This is like 90% of Pakistanis becoming Hindus type moment

Sire, care to elaborate?

Added Later: I have gone through the rest of the posts. I still feel it is in bad taste.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 24 Mar 2014 09:21

Why can't TDP tactically lose some LS seats but be firm on MLA seats?

As ties with TDP hit a wall, BJP eyes YSRC

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/ ... wMode=HTML

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 24 Mar 2014 09:26

gandharva wrote:Why can't TDP tactically lose some LS seats but be firm on MLA seats?

As ties with TDP hit a wall, BJP eyes YSRC

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/ ... wMode=HTML

TOI is just putting pulp. Jagan has apparently asked for Dalit Christian reservations to be part of NDA. He also does not want pre-poll alliance.

TDP+BJP alliance is good as done. 11LS and 50 Assembly seats between AP and TG is the deal. The final deal will come out in another two three days. Deal will TRS may not happen as he is telling Telangana population to forget Modi-Geedi (just like Punjabi style Shaadi vaadi) and vote for TRS.

Temporary or not, happy or not that may be it for this round.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 24 Mar 2014 11:02

nageshks wrote:
gandharva wrote:
Muppalla-garu,
Another dead accurate prediction from you. So - you foresaw that this guy's agenda much before, didn't you? He will support BJP, but not TDP. So it is the thin edge of the blade inserted into the cracks to prise the alliance open, much before it happens, or even if it happens, to contain the damage it might do?

If you know the word "Pawanism" and some of his movies like "Cameranman Gangatho Rambabu" (Rambabu with Cameraman Ganga), you would have known the bi-polar activitism of mixing movie political activism (called Jaganism - after Puri Jagannath not YS Jagan) and realworld political activism.

This Pawankalyam project is part of Konidela-Allu (Konidela Chirajeevi/Pawan Kalyan and Allu Aravind) money-making enterprise through movies and politics. "Kasai"-ness between brothers may be seen in some Rayalseema factionism but not in people from Godavari.

Pawan is like "Tayathilu amme vadu" (nomadic man who sells Talismans on street side). When Tayathi man is selling he displays all kinds of photos of famous people standing next to him with his Tayahis. I remembered the it when I saw Photo-op with NaMo and him selling Tayathi called Pawanism.

All is movie Maya.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 24 Mar 2014 17:17

Muppalla wrote:Who are getting really shafted politically? The EJs.

Muppala garu, Thanks for that analysis.Makes sense. Any churning is fine as long as EJs get shafted in AP.My friend who went to his village in Guntur after many years found out that 75% of his village got converted. He was stunned that many of the people with his surname now has first names like John, Joel, Stanley, Anthony, Dyson, Nathan, Yesu, Gloria, Kelly and even a Clinton.

Muppalla wrote:The caste lines, ideological lines are all blurred even though we still talk using the past.

Very true

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 24 Mar 2014 17:28

IMO, the 1st time, nagarjuna is endorsing any politician (of course, NM is not just any politician, but still...). Would be nice if lotus can 'acquire' Amala too for a ticket...

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 24 Mar 2014 17:34

^^

So the BJPfication of Telugu film industry is complete or any one is left ?

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 24 Mar 2014 18:53

Ehh - what is with the Telugu film industry? Why are they all heading into the BJP?

Manchu Lakshmi trying to get into BJP

http://www.greatandhra.com/politics/ele ... 54989.html

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 24 Mar 2014 20:28

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 24 Mar 2014 20:35

" Jagan has apparently asked for Dalit Christian reservations to be part of NDA"

Anything goes in India - even if it is unconstitutional.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 24 Mar 2014 21:22

EJ "Joker" K.A.Paul showing interest to join BJP. Claims to have met Advani, RNS and unnamed RSS people. BJP is non commital.He has Zero impact in AP electoral voting. He won't be missed.All the EJs are with Jagan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xYIaWPYcDw

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 24 Mar 2014 21:57

If and when finally BJP+TDP happens, JP should be asked to stand from Ongole, Purandareshwari from Tenali, Akkineni Amala from Zahirabad, Pawan Kalyan from Medak. None of these guys should be even allowed to contest from Malkajgiri, Chevella seats. Malkajgiri and Chevella should go to TDP as BJP has little traction these days for these two constituencies. It will be good if Reventh Reddy gets Malkajgiri and Chevella goes to some one better from TDP. Secunderabad - 90% changes of Kishen Reddy and Hyderabad will be BJP but it does not matter.

On the Andhra side, Vijayawada, Vizag should not be altered from TDP. The alliance should be to win and not to create dissentions and in the end make Jagan/Congress to win. For example Chevella will be Jaipal Reddy on congress side and he is still strong because it has rural component of Rangareddy Dt.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 24 Mar 2014 22:11

Vijayawada has to be TDP as it is so close to Gudiwada (IIRC, NTR's native or close to it). Vishakha has a lot of voter base who might be voting for Chiranjeevi (or is he in a bonda (hole) from which he cannot get out?)

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 24 Mar 2014 22:53

Rony wrote:EJ "Joker" K.A.Paul showing interest to join BJP. Claims to have met Advani, RNS and unnamed RSS people. BJP is non commital.He has Zero impact in AP electoral voting. He won't be missed.All the EJs are with Jagan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xYIaWPYcDw

He will be a great asset to BJP. Please don't call beloved EJ K.A.Paul a Joker. He is Bramhanandam of AP politics. Anybody tried to abuse him ended up in bad state as he'll put Jesus curse.*

* Watch Andhra Jyothy open-heart interview

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 24 Mar 2014 23:02

Muppalla wrote:If and when finally BJP+TDP happens, JP should be asked to stand from Ongole, Purandareshwari from Tenali, Akkineni Amala from Zahirabad, Pawan Kalyan from Medak. None of these guys should be even allowed to contest from Malkajgiri, Chevella seats. Malkajgiri and Chevella should go to TDP as BJP has little traction these days for these two constituencies. It will be good if Reventh Reddy gets Malkajgiri and Chevella goes to some one better from TDP. Secunderabad - 90% changes of Kishen Reddy and Hyderabad will be BJP but it does not matter.

On the Andhra side, Vijayawada, Vizag should not be altered from TDP. The alliance should be to win and not to create dissentions and in the end make Jagan/Congress to win. For example Chevella will be Jaipal Reddy on congress side and he is still strong because it has rural component of Rangareddy Dt.

This should be given to Bandaru Dattatreya, a 3 time winner in the past from Secundrabad. Otherwise it will be loss for BJP. Dattatreya will be sure shot win other wise it should go to TDP as Srinivas Yadav can run against Anjan Kumar Yadav, sitting MP from Congress.

As for alliance, all others LokSatta and Jana Sena should be given seats under BJP quota. TDP didn't entertain Pawan on seats and it is reason he went to BJP for seat allocation.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 24 Mar 2014 23:09

ShyamSP wrote: Watch Andhra Jyothy open-heart interview

No kidding ! He can give Brahmanandam a run for his money

"With Modi, its almost 2 hours meeting, with RNS 2 times 2 hours meeting, with Advani 2 times 1 hour and 2 and half hours meeting .."

"They are asking me to support, lets see God willing" lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0fE3Zf50PA

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 24 Mar 2014 23:17

Nagarjuna campaigning for Congress
http://www.greatandhra.com/viewnews.php ... t=&scat=16

Akkineni Nagarjuna flashed many times on small screen today. The hot news is that he is campaigning for 'Rajiv Arogya Sree', Indiramma Illu and 'Indiramma Pinchan' schemes.

He was seen on NTV and other channels since morning and that turned the heads of many and also led to discussions among all. Nagarjuna earlier campaigned for Lok Satta when it was not a political party. But now for the first time he campaigned for Congress and its schemes.

Let us see what new angles he would show for us.
- See more at: http://www.greatandhra.com/viewnews.php ... W9fmO.dpuf

Nagarjuna has been associated with congress in the past. He is also partners in Maa TV with chiranjeevi, allu aravind and Nimmagadda Prasad. He would be a good addition to BJP if he joins it but he was non committal in the link posted above.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 24 Mar 2014 23:17

Rony wrote:

If he had not supported YSR, his Banjara hills place (BTW most expensive place in Hyderabad) would have gotten 24 hrs electricity and WiFi.

Akkineni-Nimmagadda-YS Jagan invested on each other companies. Nagarjuna was frequent visitor of Jails when Nimmagadda and YSJ were in jail.

Same goes to some others from film fraternity, BJP is hedge (like putting Kerchief in Bus seat) for them for Hyderabad investments. Manchu Lakshmi is co-sister to YS Jagan (Her brother married to YSR niece). So Mohan Babu with his big ego towards CBN wants to put Kerchief as well.

All those/families with ego issues with TDP or CBN are going to BJP. CBN/TDP doesn't entertain them so they have no choice.

Only Ramoji Rao of Eenadu/Ramoji Films may not need hedging as he went directly to source TRS and may have sponsored AP bifurcation agitation.

bhavani · Post by **bhavani** » 25 Mar 2014 00:02

Assasudin Owaisi gave warning to pawan kalyan that he will not let his movies be screened in Hyderabad as he supported Modi and BJP. I am not able to decide if the splitting on Andhra will help MIM or in not. Will it help MIM in spreading the jehadi culture.

http://deccan-journal.com/content/mim-threatens-pawan

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 25 Mar 2014 00:17

^Assuddin Owaisis vedio clip for above.