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ravi_g wrote: Another would be a soldier who when the fighting has already started, stands on the margins of the battlefield and issues big threats and taunts the Hanuman of the opposing force. This second one would be Madhusudan Mistry. Per him, NaMo does not stand a chance against him in Vadodhara. Says, if NaMo mein dum hai, then let him contest the Parliamentary elections after resigning from the MLA position, tub mein dekh lunga.
BJP should be serious about Mistry, more formidable than 10 AK combined (not counting AK backers of course). Leave no stone unturned. Vadodara is a traditional Congress seat.
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Anantha wrote:This guy Dr Sudhakar Reddy twitted this on Modi's visa "issue"

[urlhttps://twitter.com/sudhakarreddys][/url]
After US rejected Narendra Modi visa,I met Jaswant Singh in New York in Warldof Astoria hotel,Jaswant ji very blunt n supported US Decision.

The Jassi sidelining has ingredients more than what meets the eye. Jassi was possibly involved along with some BJP higher ups and Kongis, that led US to shout for years that Modis US visa is rejected(the visa that Modiji did not apply for).
It is payback time for the mithaiwallah and his gang.

who paid the $ 1000+ a night charge for jassi to stay in that hotel ?
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prahaar wrote: BJP should be serious about Mistry, more formidable than 10 AK combined (not counting AK backers of course). Leave no stone unturned. Vadodara is a traditional Congress seat.
per wiki BJP has held the vadodara LS seat since 1991. only losing it for 2 years during 1996-1998 to INC
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madam has spoken

"dont believe in opinion polls, we will do well and win"
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and who was this addressed to ................... Congress workers ?
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most probably, but they are the once who will known the truth , being ground workers , nothing will hide from them
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--AK47, AK Antony, AK 49(Arvind Kejriwal) admired by Pakistan, says Modi in Jammu
http://www.niticentral.com/2014/03/26/m ... 03786.html

masterstroke--link AK with Pakistan
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Present day BJP scenario nicely articulated by Jagannathan in Firstpost..

It’s not just Modi vs rest: We are missing the bigger BJP story by R Jagannathan

One of the downsides of having 24x7 TV news accompanied by relentless social media commentary is that one can seldom separate the signal from the noise. Since the pressures of instant journalism call for comment on even the passing thoughts of inconsequential politicians, life for the bewildered viewer/reader gets harder still. This is probably the case with the recent media coverage revolving around LK Advani’s sulk, Jaswant Singh’s tearful revolt against the 'fake' BJP, Murli Manohar Joshi’s reported unhappiness over being shifted from Varanasi to Lucknow, and the denial of a ticket to Harin Pathak in Ahmedabad East, the entry and exit of Mangalore pub ruffian Pramod Muthalik from the BJP in five hours, etc, etc. What all the noise hides is the fundamental changes that have been internalised by the BJP in its current run for power. Regardless of whether it wins or loses, the BJP is now becoming a new animal. Creative destruction is in progress.

What we are actually seeing is something significant – and internal to BJP. And we are missing that in all the focus on individual personalities and bit players and the daily cacophony of soundbytes. The big story of the last two years is not Modi’s rise and possible victory this May, but the huge power shift now underway within the BJP. The powershift did not begin with the drama over Advani’s constituency, but nearly two years ago in May 2012, well before the Gujarat assembly elections went in Modi’s favour. In May 2012, the BJP formally accepted that Modi was their rising power by removing his bete noire Sanjay Joshi from the party’s national executive. Remember, Joshi was not only very powerful in Gujarat, but highly regarded in the RSS. His removal from the national executive was the price Modi extracted for attending the meeting, and it signalled the party’s covert acceptance that they needed Modi more than he needed them. It is also worth noting that both Advani and Sushma Swaraj were to attend a post-national executive rally in the city, but didn’t. They gave excuses and stayed away. Their isolation from the emerging power bloc around Modi began then. What’s happening today is a confirmation of their isolation.

ut there was not just one signal – Modi’s emergence as primus inter pares – but two at that time. The second one relates to the RSS. Everyone knows that Modi’s rise was helped by the RSS’s decision to back him against the others. This may sound like the RSS being the final arbiter in BJP affairs, but the reality is that the RSS needs Modi almost as much, if not more than, Modi needs RSS. This is evident from the way the RSS has gone out of its way to not only back Modi, but also ensuring that it pulls out all the stops to make him win. In the Delhi assembly elections last December, the RSS did everything possible to blunt the Aam Aadmi Party, and nearly managed to pull it off. A Business Standard report of 24 March shows how much the RSS is trying its best to improve the BJP’s seat count all over, including by launching an IT “blitzkrieg.” It is, of course, possible to say that since Modi is a former RSS activist, this affinity is natural. But the reality is that the RSS has pulled out all the stops to back Modi because it believes if the BJP does not make it now, it won’t be possible to regain momentum. The Sangh sees its own future dependent on the BJP’s rise to power. Moreover, the RSS leadership knows that Modi is driving not only BJP, but its own cadres: this is why an irritated RSS boss Mohan Bhagwat had to remind his swayamsevaks that it is not their job to chant “NaMo, NaMo.” The second signal we failed to see is the powershift between BJP and RSS. The BJP may be RSS’ child, but the child is now the father of the man. Modi is key to both BJP and RSS. The third change really is about the composition of the new BJP. The ascent of Modi marks the final acceptance by the party that mandalisation is the route to power. This means some degree of marginalisation of its old upper caste elite power base. Modi’s rise has seen the re-emergence of Kalyan Singh in Uttar Pradesh and BS Yeddyurappa in Karnataka, even while the Brahmin-Thakur alliances remain intact to some degree. This process will continue long after the elections. The tie-up with Ram Vilas Paswan in Bihar is part of the story of Modi trying to expand the party’s voter base beyond the upper castes. It may be opportunist, but it ties in with broader strategy. The media may do a lot of tut-tutting over the BJP opening its doors to turncoats, but this is part of its social base widening plan. Unlike the first phase of the BJP’s mandalisation, which saw the Ram Mandir as the unifying and driving force, the real base of mandalisation depends on expanding economic opportunities for OBCs – who constitute the broad base of Hindus in almost all states. This is why Modi finds resonance among many categories of OBCs. This broadening of the political base was what brought the two DMKs to power in Tamil Nadu in the 1960s, what made Mulayam Singh and Lalu Yadav such powerful forces in the 1990s and the last decade. The rise of the OBCs in the BJP’s calculus has implications for regional parties, regardless of the outcome of this election. Even if Modi does not win, the party will have to keep mandalising to broaden its base. OBC power will drive the BJP is regions it was never strong in – like the south, for example. The very fact that the BJP actually heads a six-party alliance in Tamil Nadu tells us that huge realignments are underway. The fourth change is that the BJP is now abandoning its old collective leadership ways. It is adopting the only method that has worked in India – the individual being supreme in party matters. In the Congress, dynasty has worked. In all successful regional parties, there is only one leader or one dynasty at the top.

Collective leadership has never worked in any party in India. Thus in BSP it is Mayawati, in AIADMK it is Jalayalithaa, in Shiv Sena it is Uddhav and his son, in Akali Dal it is the Badals, in SP it is the Mulayam Singh family, in Odisha it is Naveen Patnaik, in Andhra Pradesh it is Jagan Reddy in YSR Congress and Chandrababu Naidu in TDP, in Karnataka it is Deve Gowda’s family running the JD(S), in Bihar it is Nitish Kumar in JD(U), Ram Vilas Paswan in LJP, and Lalu Prasad in RJD, etc etc. Even the Aam Aadmi Party is nothing without an Arvind Kejriwal. Till recently, the only two holdouts to this person-centric model were the BJP and the Left. The ascent of Modi in the BJP is acknowledgement that this is what works in India. We all know how much the BJP’s collective leadership achieved in the last 10 years before Modi arrived. For its part, the Left will rise again when it abandons collective leadership and opts for a towering personality as its leaders – as was the case during Jyoti Basu’s time. Personality has always trumped ideology in India. Suhas Palshikar, writing in The Indian Express, notes that the BJP and the Congress are now being fashioned by two individuals, Modi and Rahul, each with their own visions for the party. Thus he labels the new parties under them as Congress(R) and BJP(M). He also believes that Rahul and Modi are at loggerheads with their parties’ old guard, but while Modi may pull it off and make the party subservient to him, thanks to his direct equation with the public, Rahul, due to his limited charisma, may end up leaving the Congress alive, but may himself not succeed in refashioning it too much. He concludes with a question: “If history is a guide, are we going to witness, in the failure of Rahul, the survival of the Congress that all of us would love to despise? And by the same logic, if Modi succeeds in ensuring the leader-party connect, will that bring in a power machine that we might have to dread?” Where I disagree with Palshikar is in assuming that Modi is only about an authoritarian tendency. His rise represents a broader social base for the BJP than it could have imagined earlier. This individualized model is here to stay, Modi or no Modi. In fact, if the BJP loses this election, one could well see the party split – with the stronger wing staying with Modi and preparing for the next battle. The old BJP is mutating to survive and grow.
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NM at the Vaishno Devi shrine before his jammu speech.

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Hopefully this pic of the unapologetic yindu gets carried and played up quite a bit in the vernacular and local press. Only.
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http://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/b ... 34819.html
Jammu: The former inspector general of Jammu and Kashmir police Farooq Khan will join the BJP today in the presence of BJP prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi at his rally in Hiranagar near Kathua.

Farooq Khan is known for the police action that led to the clearing of the famous Hazratbal shrine of militants in March 1996. 18 militants were killed and seven foreign militants were arrested in that operation.

Farooq Khan, a well-decorated officer, has been awarded with the President's medals for gallantry, bravery and distinguished service.

It was Farooq Khan again who got the historic Raghunath temple in Jammu vacated of militants in 2003 by killing all of them.
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just came back from snacks in office canteen. there are lots of TVs which usually pipe some xyz cricket match. today barring two monitors all were showing timesnow, covering Namo speaking live in bulandshahr UP and tearing into the shehzada and AK. people were huddled around eating and listening with attention...something I have never seen before in the canteen.
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In the oath ceremony he better thank media for their 12 years of coverage.:-)
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Singha wrote:just came back from snacks in office canteen. there are lots of TVs which usually pipe some xyz cricket match. today barring two monitors all were showing timesnow, covering Namo speaking live in bulandshahr UP and tearing into the shehzada and AK. people were huddled around eating and listening with attention...something I have never seen before in the canteen.
This had happened once , before. When Ramayana and Mahabharata were telecast for the first time. BHARAT used to stop in its track, almost everywhere.
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Concerted attempt to strike at NM by disabling his right hand (I'd say, sword arm).

Ishrat Jahan case: More time to CBI for making Amit Shan an accused
Today, appearing before the court, the CBI advocate sought 30 days time to consider the plea.

Opposing this, victim's advocate Shamshad Pathan told the court, "When CBI has all the evidence against those accused persons, why the probe agency needs time."

"This is a crucial time when the elections are being conducted and their (Shah and Kaushik) free movements can cause harm," advocate Pathan said further.

Reacting, CBI court told the victim's lawyer to refrain himself from addressing those persons as accused when prosecution has not yet decided on the plea.
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Firstpost ‏@firstpostin 2m
Don turned politician Mukhtar Ansari to contest against Narendra Modi in Varanasi

So in Varanasi, already there are Arvind Kejriwal (AAP) and Mukhtar Ansari (QED) contesting against NaMo.

Bechara Kejri! No Muslim votes coming to Kejri then. At least the Sunni Muslim weavers would stick with Mukhtar Ansari. Shias most probably voting for NaMo.

On May 16, media would announce, Arvind Kejriwal lost his deposit in Varanasi. AAP gets 0 MPs in Lok Sabha.
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Is there method in the Madness of Arvind Kejriwal - Why he is doing a referendum for everything, should he form the government, should he resign, should he fight from Varanasi etc. Is he a prop from outside? Suppose Namo does not win or worse he wins and fails, and then the great hope AK comes to power, will he do a referendum and give JK to Pak or maybe have it independent (so that other great powers can have base there and dominate the whole central Asia including China)? Is he being fed information, (remember there are many surveys in India on what makes us tick, many we do not hear, maybe he is being fed the right info, to what to say and what not) so that he gets maximum band for the buck. Is he willingly doing this or he is himself unaware? Is this the great plot?
rgds,
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IndraD wrote:
--AK47, AK Antony, AK 49(Arvind Kejriwal) admired by Pakistan, says Modi in Jammu
http://www.niticentral.com/2014/03/26/m ... 03786.html

masterstroke--link AK with Pakistan
I am going to shamelessly claim credit for the above Modi statement :D I had tweeted the following on March 9th

https://twitter.com/vogonpoem/status/442878091895926784

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^^ Awesome....
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Prem Kumar ji,

Credit goes to you! Fantastic!
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Prem Kumar ji,

One more thing, there used to be a poster on BRF called as VijayK who invented word "presstitutes" for MSM. You know what, Ex-Army chief and now BJP candidate from Ghaziabad used the same in his interview on TV.

So, the summary is we need to keep up the good work where we feel strongly it is the right thing. if we are wrong learn the lesson and improve upon it.
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No right wing Muppalla saar. Dharmik...dharmik...dharmik
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NaMo really seems to have a liking for Alphabet soup - 5 Ss, 4 Ps, Corruption alphabet, and now 3 AKs!
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narendramodi_in ‏@narendramodi_in 3m
People can forgive mistakes but not betrayals. There is no place for betrayers in politics, not in Delhi too: Narendra Modi in Delhi
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Watching Nitush steamroll Arnab godswami on his own show. He maybe a total turd but he can speak with a self-righteousness that can even shut up, well, Arnab himself......

Am hajaar glad the JDU turd is out of the NDA after a prolonged period of constipatory expiation.... Whew. Imagine this turd wrecking damage from within the NDA... sussma would've seemed a novice in front of him...
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Prem kumar ji,
great job! more power to you!!
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gandharva wrote:Image
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IIT trained munna must be a real darpok to need 3 people's support to drop into knee deep water :rotfl:

he would faint at the fast flowing water in haridwar.
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Prem Kumar wrote:
I am going to shamelessly claim credit for the above Modi statement :D I had tweeted the following on March 9th
Fantastic! This is how mindspace is won by keyboard warriors.

And I do have to point out that #mediapimps has been my contribution., now used liberally by @mediacrooks and is mainstream. Another thing he uses nowadays in his articles is the word "Anti-Hindi Anti-Hindu"., I should in some ways also take credit for it, since I used it to pigeonhole Anna Veticad (another high profile AAP supporter).
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Who is that white guy with AK helping him into the water?
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By directly attacking AK49 and associating him with bakis, Modi has bowled a googly.

Here is what Modi has done, he did not attack AK49 until Kejriwal went to varanasi and announced his candidature. People miss it, and I am not surprised since I did expect Modi to attack Kejriwal when he becomes a direct competitor.

Kejriwal made a mistake, he stepped out in the field., a person used to Guerilla warfar is now stepping out thinking he will win blitzkrieg.
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Singha wrote:just came back from snacks in office canteen. there are lots of TVs which usually pipe some xyz cricket match. today barring two monitors all were showing timesnow, covering Namo speaking live in bulandshahr UP and tearing into the shehzada and AK. people were huddled around eating and listening with attention...something I have never seen before in the canteen.
Every section of the society is touched. Everybody is interested. And everybody is invested in the outcome now.

Answer to your musing:
Unlike the first phase of the BJP’s mandalisation, which saw the Ram Mandir as the unifying and driving force, the real base of mandalisation depends on expanding economic opportunities for OBCs – who constitute the broad base of Hindus in almost all states. This is why Modi finds resonance among many categories of OBCs. This broadening of the political base was what brought the two DMKs to power in Tamil Nadu in the 1960s, what made Mulayam Singh and Lalu Yadav such powerful forces in the 1990s and the last decade. The rise of the OBCs in the BJP’s calculus has implications for regional parties, regardless of the outcome of this election. Even if Modi does not win, the party will have to keep mandalising to broaden its base. OBC power will drive the BJP is regions it was never strong in – like the south, for example. The very fact that the BJP actually heads a six-party alliance in Tamil Nadu tells us that huge realignments are underway.
Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/ ... ef_article
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prahaar wrote:BJP should be serious about Mistry, more formidable than 10 AK combined (not counting AK backers of course). Leave no stone unturned. Vadodara is a traditional Congress seat.
:rotfl:

I do not think so. In fact if Mistry is smart, he will also withdraw and say that a Gujarati PM should be elected from Gujarat unopposed., that will make him a hero!

Fighting NaMo in Gujarat? If Kejri or Digvijay were so strong, why did they not stand from any seat in Gujarat.
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NaMo is now pushing AK49's foreign connections into the media. MSM can ignore SM and dish out AK49's civil activist image to Delhi bhondus (I come from Delhi, so can call ourselves as such), but if NaMo pushes such claims, then MSM would have to carry them.

Also AK49 and MSM knows now, he enjoys zero respect from NaMo.
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RajeshA wrote:NaMo really seems to have a liking for Alphabet soup - 5 Ss, 4 Ps, Corruption alphabet, and now 3 AKs!

Next name the D4 after the elections!!!

D4= Dushta Chatustiyam (bad four)
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D4 is now D3 if you noticed. AJ has deftly distanced himself from their machinations and is mainstream now.

to be fair, he was always a marginal case to be considered part of the D4 , apparently has good relations with namo.

loh purush has been brought under control under the adage "keep ur enemies closer..."

the other two are still on the loose.
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D4 has a fixed membership?
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gandharva wrote:Image
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dishaji,
Great job.But is it 'anti-hindu' or 'anti-hindi'?
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Singha wrote:D4 is now D3 if you noticed. AJ has deftly distanced himself from their machinations and is mainstream now.

the other two are still on the loose.
the real Oxygen Sushma currently gets is from Shivraj in MP. A safe seat from Vidisha is the "favor" he is doing knowing fully well that if Sushma is given ticket from Delhi by team NaMo, it will hasten her eventual fading away to oblivion like Jassi.

To me Shivraj, like any good politician has ambitions and there is nothing wrong in that. He is a proven match winner with awesome strike rate. NaMo should offer him deputy PM in his cabinet and cut the oxygen that is keeping Sonia assets in BJP alive.

This is latest photo from campaigning in Vidisha by Sushma, her contempt for NaMo is no secret now. She is actually hoping against hope that BJP is contained below 180 and she gets a shot at PM gaddi through Sonia nudge to allies.

http://linkis.com/indianexpress.com/ar/Yw08q
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