Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014

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asprinzl wrote:
VikasRaina wrote:Raza Rumi - Why on earth you would take a Persian name in a country where Shia's are considered wajib-ul-Qatal ?
In my discourse over the years, I have found that many Indian Muslims and Pakistanis would add Persian to their supposed heritage to add "prestige" to themselves. This is apart from the "Central Asian" claim. Mistakenly they assume that Persian names are automatically Muslim names. Which is not true. Many of these Persian names Pakis and IMs give their children are not Islamic (Arabic names) names.
On top of it, these days Persians-in large numbers-are running away from this "arabic" religion while Pakis seem to be running towards it.
Avram this is an interesting titbit. In south India - as you might already know, Muslims are often referred to by the epithet "Turuka" or "Turukan" meaning "Turk".

I wondered how that name came up but it probably has to do with Babar the first Mughal whose ancestors were "turkified" by an expanding Turk empire. Babar's son Humayun the second Mughal emperor in Delhi was driven to Persia by the Afghan Pashtun Sher Shah Suri, but Humayun came back with a bang using Persian help. That was when Persian influence started, and it increased under Humayun's son Akbar.

The Arabic connection for Pakis is very tenuous and very remote - "phourth coujin thrice removed" would be an accurate classification.

But Bakis are stateless assholes - so whatever they think is fine. They are too stupid to figure out the difference.

But reading the history of Babur, Humayn and later Akbar i can understand why Pakis like to think they are "India". The main Mughal rule in those early years, which is called by historians as "rule over India", was over what is now Pakistan, and up to Delhi. It expanded under Akbar but still did not cover South India entirely. By the time the empire got bigger the Marathas were already at their heels - which is why "Shivaji" as in "Sivaji Ganesan" is big name in deep south India/Tamil Nadu.
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X-posting relevant excerpts from the Health thread
For India, the challenge is to remain polio-free - Business Line
On the day India was feted by the World Health Organisation (WHO) for clocking three polio-free years, reports coming out of Iraq spoke of a suspected case of polio re-infection — its first in 14 years. . . . The re-infection reported in Iraq seems to be similar to that in Syria seen months ago, and possibly of Pakistani-origin, says Sona Bari, WHO spokesperson on global polio eradication. . . . It has now come down to eradicating cases in Pakistan and Nigeria, as Afghanistan’s cases are a fall-out of proximity to Pakistan, says Bari.
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asprinzl wrote:
VikasRaina wrote:Raza Rumi - Why on earth you would take a Persian name in a country where Shia's are considered wajib-ul-Qatal ?
In my discourse over the years, I have found that many Indian Muslims and Pakistanis would add Persian to their supposed heritage to add "prestige" to themselves. This is apart from the "Central Asian" claim. Mistakenly they assume that Persian names are automatically Muslim names. Which is not true. Many of these Persian names Pakis and IMs give their children are not Islamic (Arabic names) names.
On top of it, these days Persians-in large numbers-are running away from this "arabic" religion while Pakis seem to be running towards it.
Rumi was Persian/Afghan, but he was Sunni, not Shi'a. He settled in the Sunni Turkic empire, in present day Qouniyeh (Konya), in Turkey. He got the name "Rumi" because that's where he settled, since Turkey was essentially the Eastern Roman Empire. Iranis call him Balkhi, not Rumi, since his place of birth was Balkh province in northern Afghanistan.

Whether Sunni or Shi'a, Persian language and culture is prestigious.
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asprinzl wrote:
VikasRaina wrote:Raza Rumi - Why on earth you would take a Persian name in a country where Shia's are considered wajib-ul-Qatal ?
In my discourse over the years, I have found that many Indian Muslims and Pakistanis would add Persian to their supposed heritage to add "prestige" to themselves. This is apart from the "Central Asian" claim.
Persian was the language of the Mughal court and also the official language in the Empire. The Mughal rulers employed Persians in large numbers as nobility in their courts. So, there is a certain association of 'high-church' with Persian especially in the Ganga-Jamuna belt.
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SSridhar wrote:
asprinzl wrote:In my discourse over the years, I have found that many Indian Muslims and Pakistanis would add Persian to their supposed heritage to add "prestige" to themselves. This is apart from the "Central Asian" claim.
Persian was the language of the Mughal court and also the official language in the Empire. The Mughal rulers employed Persians in large numbers as nobility in their courts. So, there is a certain association of 'high-church' with Persian especially in the Ganga-Jamuna belt.
Iranis have used a standard survival tactic ever since the Greek invasions:
1. Make son-in-laws out of their conquerors by giving their daughters in marriage (or rather acquiescing in the taking of their daughters, after the fact).
2. Then surrounding these conquerors as courtiers, advisors, religious adepts (after converting if needed) and flattering poets, and thereby maintaining deep influence via soft power channels.
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Mushy has been charged with treason in the court. But the government prosecutor has said gobermint has no infection if he travels abroad for medical treatment. Looks like a case of Canadian visa.
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Attack on Pasni Radar Station - DT
Armed men disguised in security forces’ uniforms attacked the Pasni radar-post in Mekran Belt near Gwadar on Saturday, killing a Balochistan Constabulary official and injuring another, according to a senior official. An official in the province’s home and tribal affairs department, who requested anonymity owing to sensitivity of the matter, told a private television channel that eight armed militants stormed inside the Pasni radar post and killed personnel deployed there. “The militants took eight security personnel hostage,” he said, adding that the insurgents killed one of them for offering resistance. The Pasni radar post, located 131 kilometers east of Gwadar, controls air traffic from Western and Gulf countries towards South Asia and Central Asian States. “The assailants planted a bomb after the attack,” the official said, and informed that the bomb disposal squad was called in to defuse the bomb. He said the militants damaged some technical equipments installed at the radar-post during the attack. “Militants sped away in their vehicles after the attack,” he said. “There were several Baloch Constabulary personnel guarding the radar set up on the mountain top. Armed men locked the personnel inside the room after shooting,” another senior official of the Home Department said. The armed men then attached explosive materials to the radar and sped away. According to a local official, they also fired few rocket-propelled grenades on the radar, partially damaging the installation.
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On the Raza Rumi attack, an op-ed in DT
The Rumis of Pakistan are swimming against a tide of ignorance. Those who want to see darkness at high noon — the sickness of Zia’s children — should read the tweets by numerous Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf activists who were ruing the fact that Raza Rumi made it unscathed through the attack but then that is to be expected. A very senior PTI youthia :) once lamented the fact that a plan to blow up the last parliament was foiled by the government.
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SSridhar wrote:On the Raza Rumi attack, an op-ed in DT
The Rumis of Pakistan are swimming against a tide of ignorance. Those who want to see darkness at high noon — the sickness of Zia’s children — should read the tweets by numerous Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf activists who were ruing the fact that Raza Rumi made it unscathed through the attack but then that is to be expected. A very senior PTI youthia :) once lamented the fact that a plan to blow up the last parliament was foiled by the government.
The url is below.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/opinion/31 ... s-republic
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anupmisra wrote:No Mickey Mouse stuff this is. Disneyland
The Walt Disney Company has eliminated Pakistan from its list of Permitted Sourcing Countries. Reason: Bad governance.
Heh, this was predicted a while ago, when Pakistanis were granted special export preferences by EU countries for a few years. Even back then, the consensus was that it was a case of "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink". Even with the Pakis being given special treatment and lower import duties, you still couldn't convince a EU or US company purchasing manager to place large orders with Pakistani companies, given their spotty record of delivering goods on time or even delivering at all. Western buyers got nervous about Pakistani ability to fulfill orders because of the frequent power outages in Pakland + images of protesters burning stuff + dock strikes etc.

Heck, there was a report recently where even Paki origin shopowners in the UK were shown saying that they preferred sourcing stuff from India, because the items were good quality and delivered quickly and on time, whereas ordering from Pakistani sources was always a huge gamble.

This Disneyland rule about purchasing from responsible countries with good governance, ethical sourcing etc. is just another reason that they can use to justify not purchasing from Pakistan. With the amount of bad press that companies get about sourcing from factories that put workers in sub-human conditions in third world countries, it won't be too long before Wal-mart, Target and others follow suit.
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chandrasekhar.m wrote: . . . in the video the mullah chastises the TSPA officer and asks him to stop repeating time and again the lie that the TTP blasts bombs in the markets. He says its the TSPA/ISI that does those blasts. Is that true? Is that how far the TSPA/ISI have fallen?
IMHO, difficult to say either way, because both are capable of doing such things and blaming the other for that. Lying for a good cause is acceptable in Islam, per Gen. Zia. Neither TTP (by its ideology which sees only the larger interests of Islam as practised and interpreted by them), nor the TSPA (by its ideology of retaining power at all costs) has much value for human lives. We have the proof of the Taliban scholar (previous page) dismissing the death of school children as collateral damage acceptable in Islam for a larger cause while TSPA's unapologetic actions of the last 67 years of using PAF, artillery and armour against its own people time and again.
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As predicted, pak-e-beggars still believe. They still believe that they will get uneaten and soon-to-be-thrown-into-the garbage leftovers.

Pakis deserve leftovers : Paki Defence Secretary
Secretary Defence Asif Yasin Malik on Monday said Pakistan would be receiving the United States’ leftover military hardware after the completion of withdrawal of its forces from Afghanistan later this year
He further said that only after going through the equipment would Pakistan decide what it wants to keep from the remaining supplies.
Yup! That's what the hungry, the destitute and the homeless do when they go through the garbage containers after the party. Notwithstanding the statement made by Isaf Commander Gen Joseph Dunford the other day that US won’t give leftover military hardware to Pakistan.

I guess, hope springs eternal in the paki breast.
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Paki "civil society" watch. Women activists, religious parties differ on domestic violence
“Isn’t it breaking up a family if husband goes to jail for beating up wife,” said veiled woman legislator from Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-Fazl Fauzia Bibi justifying domestic violence by giving different cultural and religious perspectives.
She ended up saying the passage of the bill would westernise the society.
others called it intrusion in privacy of home
AoA!
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anupmisra wrote:As predicted, pak-e-beggars still believe. They still believe that they will get uneaten and soon-to-be-thrown-into-the garbage leftovers.

Pakis deserve leftovers : Paki Defence Secretary
Secretary Defence Asif Yasin Malik on Monday said Pakistan would be receiving the United States’ leftover military hardware after the completion of withdrawal of its forces from Afghanistan later this year
He further said that only after going through the equipment would Pakistan decide what it wants to keep from the remaining supplies.
Yup! That's what the hungry, the destitute and the homeless do when they go through the garbage containers after the party. Notwithstanding the statement made by Isaf Commander Gen Joseph Dunford the other day that US won’t give leftover military hardware to Pakistan.

I guess, hope springs eternal in the paki breast.
http://idrw.org/?p=35649
India asks U.S to Sell mine-resistant vehicles to be left behind in Afghanistan
In a bid to avoid a Sukma like disaster — where 16 paramilitary security personnel were killed in a Maoist ambush in Chhattisgarh — the government has decided to approach Washington to purchase state-of-the-art mine resistant ambush protected (MRAP) vehicles, which the US forces will leave behind in Afghanistan after they pull-out of the country this year.

The spadework for the acquisition has already begun through the foreign military sales route with Pentagon inclined to sell “excess defence articles” to India rather than be captured by Taliban forces after the drawdown.
While South Block has asked its officials to prepare for the specifications of the MRAPs, there are five categories of some 3,800 vehicles currently in Afghanistan. Called Cougar or Buffalo, these more than 14-tonne vehicles with V-shaped hulls, have minimised the US forces casualties in improvised explosive device blasts and ambush, both in Iraq and Afghanistan.

US has given some 20 such vehicles to Pakistan under the coalition support programme. The V-shaped hulls that can deflect blasts from more than 150 kg IEDs — routinely used by Indian Maoists — have a six-inch thick bullet-proof glass, can run on flat tires and have a maximum speed of up to 100 kmph.

“The Americans first offered the MRAPs to defence ministry some years ago without avail. This time the request has come from home ministry as these vehicles will help in transportation of troops as well as improve patrolling on the main highways in south Chhattisgarh,” said a senior ministry of external affairs official.

Although the casualties in the Tongpal ambush were partly due to violation of standard operating procedures by the security forces and in spite of actionable intelligence, it was decided at a high-level meeting chaired by Union home minister Sushilkumar Shinde that troopers needed extra protection with Maoists using planned attacks and area weapons. It was then that the MEA was alerted to approach Pentagon for sale of MRAPs under the bilateral Homeland Security programme.
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So will Musharraf finally meet his kohl eyed ayesha (the lamp-e-post)?
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If TTP dont get him first?
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anupmisra wrote:Paki "civil society" watch. Women activists, religious parties differ on domestic violence
“Isn’t it breaking up a family if husband goes to jail for beating up wife,” said veiled woman legislator from Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-Fazl Fauzia Bibi justifying domestic violence by giving different cultural and religious perspectives.
She ended up saying the passage of the bill would westernise the society.
others called it intrusion in privacy of home
AoA!
Um - here's another perspective. When a Paki feudal takes on more than one wife and beats the older one because he doesn't like her - the new wife, the favoured one stands to lose if the man goes to jail and the older wife does not get beaten any more.

Need to look at personal details of the mohtarmas who are pushing this argument
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X Posted from the “Pakistani Role In Global Terrorism” thread.

Amir Mir writing in Dawn on the export of Mohammadden Terrorism from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to every one of her neighbours namely taller than Himalaya’s deeper than Arabian sea friend P.R.China, the other two Islamic Republics of Afghanistan and Iran, and naturally India:
Jihadis bringing Pakistan in conflict with neighbours

Amir Mir
Monday, March 31, 2014
From Print Edition

ISLAMABAD: The rising incidents of cross-border terrorism by some Pakistan-based militant groups not only in Afghanistan and India but also in Iran and China, are increasingly bringing Islamabad into conflict with most of its neighbouring states.

Pakistan’s Tribal Areas are being blamed for harbouring non-state actors by almost all its neighbours, with Delhi, Kabul, Tehran and Beijing expressing concern about the links between global terrorism and sanctuaries located in the lawless regions of the Fata. …………………..

What is alarming is that these jihadis see no end to their anarchist agenda and have stepped up their efforts to bury Pakistan in conflict with its immediate neighbours. The latest escalation in diplomatic hostilities between Iran and Pakistan was caused by the abduction of five Iranian border guards from Iran’s Sistan Balochistan region, allegedly by a Pakistan-based Sunni militant group called Jaishul Adl or the Army of Justice. ………………………..

The other neighbour to complain about terrorists being given sanctuary on Pakistani soil is China which is disturbed about the activities of the Chinese Muslim rebels who want the creation of an independent Islamic state in China, and are allegedly being trained in Pakistani tribal areas and then despatched to Xinjiang province. In July 2012, Beijing publicly claimed for the first time in recent years that those responsible for two bomb blasts in the Kashgar city of the Xinjiang Province in July 2011, which killed 18 people, had been trained in the East Turkistani Islamic Movement’s camps being run by the Chinese Muslim separatists in Waziristan. …………………………..

For its part, Afghanistan blames Pakistan for doing little to crack down on the Taliban and al-Qaeda militants who control a considerable parts of the Pak-Afghan border region especially Waziristan. ………………

As far as the Indo-Pak ties are concerned, the major bone of contention which has also affected the tempo of their composite dialogue, remains the slow-moving trial of the Mumbai attackers who are being tried by an anti terrorism court in Pakistan. While Ajmal Kasab’s trial took four years to conclude and culminated in his hanging on the eve of the fourth anniversary of the 26/11 episode, the trial of the Lashkar-e-Toiba’s chief operational commander Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi and his accomplices is progressing at a snail’s pace in Pakistan and is not expected to conclude in the near future. The VIP treatment being extended to Lakhvi by the Pakistan establishment can be gauged from the fact that Lakhvi was able to father a child in 2010 despite being behind bars at the high-security Adiala jail in Rawalpindi since his arrest in December 2008. …………………………

The all-powerful establishment which has ruled Pakistan for more than half of its life and which continues to dictate the foreign policy to the government is still accused by the international community of pursuing a policy of running with the hare and hunting with the hounds, mainly because of the fact that it is still not inclined to develop a clear-cut policy against terrorism which is the need of the hour.
Read it all:

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Clever move by India to offer to buy the Mine resistant vehicles to preclude US giving them away to TSP. Still does not prevent the US from gifting some of the vehicles but atleast potentially reduces the inventory.
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Reg Mushy: All is posturing and make-believe as usual.. the world thinks that the law took its course.. and then Musharraf will be granted permission to visit his ammi.. never to return.. There are already signals of it ("Its up to the govt to grant permission to Mush to visit his Mother"- court), the Khakhis will not let one of their own get lampbosted..

Guess Mushy is already sitting in a corner paalishing his vijja and chuckling to himself.. If Mushy has to get his comeuppance, it *has* to be via TTP... :evil:
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ramana wrote:Clever move by India to offer to buy the Mine resistant vehicles to preclude US giving them away to TSP. Still does not prevent the US from gifting some of the vehicles but atleast potentially reduces the inventory.
India should work with Iran to move this inventory off Iran border to the gulf ports if possible and completely avoid TSP.
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ramana wrote:Clever move by India to offer to buy the Mine resistant vehicles to preclude US giving them away to TSP. Still does not prevent the US from gifting some of the vehicles but atleast potentially reduces the inventory.
Well yes. But then US will gift Pakistan lethal weapons and claim its all equal equal onlee since they sold mine resistant vehicles to India.
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The raza rumi case was pretty informative. You had a section of "nationalists" (read pro army) chaps routinely calling for his head on Twitter and then after the attack claiming "Its pretty clear that it's a TTP attack"

BTW in the mush case, the court has ruled that its the gobermints prerogative to keep or let mush travel abroad. Popcorn time.
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Pak gobarmint should "take notice" of court's directive, "in principle" agree for mush travel and then do nothing.
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I am not a traitor says Musharraf

Old-timers will remember this famous quote attributed to Nixon: I am not a crook
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More bad news for Mushy! Condition of Musharraf’s ammijaan improving. It is a kaanshiprashy.
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Here's the full text of the chargesheet against Mushy! Al those amongst us with the legal frameof mind,please comment.

Mushy's pre-lamp-posting party

BEFORE THE SPECIAL COURT CONSTITUTED UNDER THE CRIMINAL LAW AMENDMENT (SPECIAL COURT) ACT, 1976, ISLAMABAD
STATEMENT OF FORMAL CHARGES

General (Retired) Pervez Musharraf may be formally charged as under:

a) Firstly, on 3rd November, 2007 at Rawalpindi as Chief of the Army Staff, he issued an unconstitutional and unlawful “Proclamation of Emergency Order, 2007” which, unconstitutionally and unlawfully, held the Constitution of Islamic Republic of Pakistan, 1973 in abeyance and he thereby subverted the Constitution and thus committed the offence of high treason punishable under section 2 of the High Treason (Punishment) Act, 1973 (Act LXVIII of 1973), which is within the jurisdiction of the Special Court established under section 4 of The Criminal Law Amendment (Special Courts) Act, 1976 (XVII of 1976).

b) Secondly, on 3rd November, 2007 at Rawalpindi as Chief of the Army Staff, he issued an unconstitutional and unlawful “Provisional Constitution Order No. 1 of 2007” which, unconstitutionally and unlawfully, empowered the President to amend the Constitution of Islamic Republic of Pakistan, 1973 from time to time and he also suspended the Fundamental Rights enshrined in Articles 9, 10, 15, 16, 17, 19 and 25 of the Constitution and he thereby subverted the Constitution and thus committed the offence of high treason punishable under section 2 of the High Treason (Punishment) Act, 1973 (Act LXVIII of 1973), which is within the jurisdiction of the Special Court established under section 4 of The Criminal Law Amendment (Special Courts) Act, 1976 (XVII of 1976).

c) Thirdly, on 3rd November, 2007 at Rawalpindi as President of Islamic Republic of Pakistan, he issued an unconstitutional and unlawful “Oath of Office (Judges) Order, 2007” whereby an oath was, unconstitutionally and unlawfully, introduced in the Schedule which required a judge to abide by the provisions of the Proclamation of Emergency dated 03.11.2007 and the Provisional Constitutional Order dated 03.11.2007 to perform acts and functions in accordance thereof and this order also resulted in removal of numerous judges of the superior courts including the Hon’ble Chief Justice of Pakistan and he thereby subverted the Constitution of Islamic Republic of Pakistan, 1973 and thus committed the offence of high treason punishable under section 2 of the High Treason (Punishment) Act, 1973 (Act LXVIII of 1973), which is within the jurisdiction of the Special Court established under section 4 of The Criminal Law Amendment (Special Courts) Act, 1976 (XVII of 1976).

d) Fourthly, on 20th November, 2007 at Rawalpindi as President of Islamic Republic of Pakistan, he issued an unconstitutional and unlawful Order 5 of 2007 “Constitution (Amendment) Order, 2007” whereby Articles 175, 186-A, 198, 218, 270B and 270C were, unconstitutionally and unlawfully, amended and Article 270AAA was added to the Constitution of Islamic Republic of Pakistan, 1973 and he thereby subverted the Constitution and thus committed the offence of high treason punishable under section 2 of the High Treason (Punishment) Act, 1973 (Act LXVIII of 1973), which is within the jurisdiction of the Special Court established under section 4 of The Criminal Law Amendment (Special Courts) Act, 1976 (XVII of 1976).

e) Fifthly, on 14th December, 2007 at Rawalpindi as President of Islamic Republic of Pakistan, he issued an unconstitutional and unlawful Order 6 of 2007 “Constitution (Second Amendment) Order, 2007” whereby the Constitution of Islamic Republic of Pakistan, 1973 was, unconstitutionally and unlawfully, amended and he thereby subverted the Constitution and thus committed the offence of high treason punishable under section 2 of the High Treason (Punishment) Act, 1973 (Act LXVIII of 1973), which is within the jurisdiction of the Special Court established under section 4 of The Criminal Law Amendment (Special Courts) Act, 1976 (XVII of 1976).
As in Rome, all these treasonous roads lead to the lamp-e-post.
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SSridhar wrote:X-posting relevant excerpts from the Health thread
For India, the challenge is to remain polio-free - Business Line
On the day India was feted by the World Health Organisation (WHO) for clocking three polio-free years, reports coming out of Iraq spoke of a suspected case of polio re-infection — its first in 14 years. . . . The re-infection reported in Iraq seems to be similar to that in Syria seen months ago, and possibly of Pakistani-origin, says Sona Bari, WHO spokesperson on global polio eradication. . . . It has now come down to eradicating cases in Pakistan and Nigeria, as Afghanistan’s cases are a fall-out of proximity to Pakistan, says Bari.
Just as with the case of Syria, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan besides exporting Mohammadden Terrorists exports the Polio Virus to Afghanistan.

WHO traces source of recent cases of Polio infection in Afghanistan to the Islamic Republic Of Pakistan:

WHO Says Afghan Polio Cases Linked To Pakistan

Meanwhile yet another Anti-Polio worker is killed in the Islamic Republic Of Pakistan :

Female polio worker killed in Bannu
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:rotfl:

Classic psychological ops!
Many countries across continents are affected by Polio, including Afghanistan! Source is pseudo piousstan.
But India has a 'challenge'. Any other country would build a mile high mesh of border fence networks and maintain it with chlorine as a disinfectant.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014

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anupmisra wrote:More bad news for Mushy! Condition of Musharraf’s ammijaan improving. It is a kaanshiprashy.
I actually miss Musharraf. :((
Ever since he was kicked out, the Paki thread has become boring.
Will Mushy go out with a bang? Or will he go out with a tug?
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014

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ramana wrote:Clever move by India to offer to buy the Mine resistant vehicles to preclude US giving them away to TSP. Still does not prevent the US from gifting some of the vehicles but atleast potentially reduces the inventory.
Or the 'news' that Pakistan was going to get them for free may have been the US making a move to drum up Indian interest in the first place. Create a market out of nothing so to speak.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014

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KJoishy wrote:
anupmisra wrote:More bad news for Mushy! Condition of Musharraf’s ammijaan improving. It is a kaanshiprashy.
I actually miss Musharraf. :((
Ever since he was kicked out, the Paki thread has become boring.
Will Mushy go out with a bang? Or will he go out with a tug?
Mushy's favorite song these days is "T(h)ug le, T(h)ug le" from Ladies vs Ricky bahl. :D
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014

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ramana wrote:Clever move by India to offer to buy the Mine resistant vehicles to preclude US giving them away to TSP. Still does not prevent the US from gifting some of the vehicles but atleast potentially reduces the inventory.
A cleverer (is that a word?) move would be to buy the vehicles and donate them to Afghanis.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014

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KJoishy wrote:So will Musharraf finally meet his kohl eyed ayesha (the lamp-e-post)?
Not yet Joish-uddin. For the moment, an arap birather's plane was spotted in rawal-da-pindi with rumors that some sort of an exit deal is in the making. Only in bakistan. Mushy lives to fight another downhill battle.

One flew away from the cuckoo's nest
Speculations are rife that former president General (retd) Pervez Musharraf is likely to leave the country after a special aircraft of a Gulf country was spotted at the Noor Khan Airbase in Rawalpindi
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014

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Baikul wrote:
ramana wrote:Clever move by India to offer to buy the Mine resistant vehicles to preclude US giving them away to TSP. Still does not prevent the US from gifting some of the vehicles but atleast potentially reduces the inventory.
Or the 'news' that Pakistan was going to get them for free may have been the US making a move to drum up Indian interest in the first place. Create a market out of nothing so to speak.
Look at the asking prices and the cost structures involved:

"It costs about $12,000 to crunch and dispose of a single MRAP here, said Mark E. Wright, a Defense Department spokesman. To ship one back to the U.S. and rebuild it to current standards would cost $250,000 to $450,000, he said. Selling the vehicles as scrap instead of shipping them home and refitting them will consequently save about $500 million, Wright said."

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/dec/27 ... r-20131227

IOW, anything above $12K is a good deal for the DoD. If India pays $12,000.01, and takes it FOB Kabul and moves it via Chahbahar to India, it's a great deal for us.

I would hazard a guess that OFB/BFO/BOF or whatever those buffoons are called these days, won't be able to wield an armored Maruti at the CIF price.

There's gold in them thar' surplus stocks of many things that the US is so good at getting and lousy at getting out.

The Maoist thing is just a great front wot?
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014

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Anujan wrote:BTW in the mush case, the court has ruled that its the gobermints prerogative to keep or let mush travel abroad. Popcorn time.
The US will intervene through KSA eventually and ask Nawaz Sharif to let him go.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014

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SSridhar wrote:
Anujan wrote:BTW in the mush case, the court has ruled that its the gobermints prerogative to keep or let mush travel abroad. Popcorn time.The US will intervene through KSA eventually and ask Nawaz Sharif to let him go.
KSA did the same for Ganza. Mushy did not forfeit Nawaz's life after Saudi intervened on his behalf.Now they do same for Mushy's life to be spared by Nawaz. But Mushy is Pseudo Syed and true Ajlaf so he wont get palace in Riyadh but flat in London where Birt masters get to enjoy to put Mush on slow sleeping and slipping into Coma.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014

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http://indianexpress.com/article/opinio ... -pakistan/

What has been stated in BRF, but for the reiteration of US officials lack of trust on Pakis. Current SOPs given to Pukis may not be just a leverage to get out of Afghanistan with H&D for uncle. It is also to retain the recently gained leverage with Pukis until the esulamic nuke threat is neutralized and to keep a watch on various pigglet terror orgs.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014

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Jhujar wrote:KSA did the same for Ganza. Mushy did not forfeit Nawaz's life after Saudi intervened on his behalf.Now they do same for Mushy's life to be spared by Nawaz. But Mushy is Pseudo Syed and true Ajlaf so he wont get palace in Riyadh but flat in London where Birt masters get to enjoy to put Mush on slow sleeping and slipping into Coma.
Yes, but KSA did that for Nawaz Sharif on its own accord. In the case of KSA would do so on behalf of the US, though KSA had a serious difference with Musharraf and he was persona non-grata in the Desert Kingdom when he was the CEO, President & COAS of the Land of the Purest.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014

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anupmisra wrote:More bad news for Mushy! Condition of Musharraf’s ammijaan improving. It is a kaanshiprashy.
Ammijaan had come to Surrender Singh's place for a vegetarian lunch when they came to see Neher wali Haveli.
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