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SwamyG wrote:Irrespective of what a clan or caste does, India has moved on (for bad or good) and disassociated itself with several past traditions. Isn't the Hindu Marriage Act that is foremost and decides if individuals are married or not?

One more reason to have a common act/law. Instead of one for the Hindus and having personal laws for people of other faith.
There are two ways to look at it. State can mandate a cultural practice (IMO very wrong) or state can attest to a cultural practice (IMHO correct)., that is like a pujari and two elders are witness to a marriage., a marriage certificate indicates that the state is a witness either via attested proxies like the pujari or direct appointees like the magistrate.

So when certain facilities are availed from the state, the certificate issued by state helps. Or when state is called to adjudicate on behalf of a vexed party, such an attestation helps. In this case the state is not incongruent to the culture. And let us say a modhwadia woman gets divorced, at the proceedings she can give 1.25 Rs to her ex and obtain her right to remarry. In fact state can recognize that and attest it as well. Where is the incongruency between the state and the culture?

The issues which UCC raises for the muslims is the "state interference" in Sharia. That is per sharia a muslim has a right to marry 4 wimmens and divorce using talaaq-talaaq-talaaq. So if sharia is applicable there, why not sharia for chopping of hands for thiefs? If rights are equal, why does a muslim man have more rights than a non-muslim? Also what about wimmen-rights? Should not muslim wimmen have the right to marry four husbands? Or why should state sanction polygamy for one section of population and not for another?

This is where secularism failed and this is where Nehru failed. He could have in the first 10 years itself ensured that getting off the sharia is good for the Muslims. Iran, Turkey and Afghanistan was progressive and he could have used that as a way to move the muslim community forward!
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Sridhar: Personal life matters at certain levels. An incident here or there reflects differently than say a pattern in one's life. I might be a bad son, father or husband and yet conduct professionally at work, and be a nice BRFite while discussing technical aspects. However, personal traits which influences personal life gives a clue to how a person will conduct in public life.

One should not dismiss personal life nor make it as the sole yardstick to determine an individual's role public life. A balance that stems from a pattern can be helpful.

As far as steam rolling, India's constitution makers already steam rolled Indic systems, values and traditions. It has always been a tussle by the European/Western ideas imbibed by Indian system versus ancient systems.
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Easily the biggest elections in Modern India.. '77 post-Emergency will be seen as the next biggest one (I watched Subramaniam Swamy as a candidate from Chembur speak on grounds as a kid). Then the Janata Party got 345 seats.. Now it much more fractured. I am predicting 248 BJP and close to 300 NDA.
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disha wrote:Some of the "beds/tents" in remote kutch cost as much as $200 (yes Rs. 1.2 Lakhs) per night and has to be booked some 6 months in advance.
it should be Us$ 2000 not 200

200 = INR 12000
2000 = INR 1,20,000

Even according to Hindu law the marriage has to be consumated to be called married

Also according Sarada act its illegal to perform marriage of teen ager assuming the bride was younger than Groom (16yrs as mentioned)
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RamaY wrote:
SwamyG wrote:Irrespective of what a clan or caste does, India has moved on (for bad or good) and disassociated itself with several past traditions. Isn't the Hindu Marriage Act that is foremost and decides if individuals are married or not?

One more reason to have a common act/law. Instead of one for the Hindus and having personal laws for people of other faith.
Trap of western universalism. Marriage represents the tradition (fashion) of that region.
While bringing Hindu Marriage Act, Nehru promised Hindus that it will unite, which is nonsense.
Modi brought better unity in Hindus without westernizing Hindus.
Two things. First, if India wants to travel the current route, the Western one, then all citizens get uniform code of conduct. Second, if India wants to use the ancient path, then there is no need for uniform code. A muslim or Hindu could follow the traditions his religion advocates. India is straddling the Western and India path, and lands into these problems that the media and us like to discuss.
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Charlie Rose Show on Indian elections. Dhume, Arvind Pannagarhiya etc.

http://www.charlierose.com/watch/60365858
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>> and an accomplished hiker. Both of which he misses sorely currently., in his first/second stint as CM, he would walk alone for hours in Kutch's desert sometimes at night.

I shall strongly press the LIKE button on that one.

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time of Ashwamedha Yagna drawns near...its time to change lutyens delhi...its time to rip the powerful from their decadent nests and cast them out into the cold world which we all know...
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SwamyG wrote: Two things. First, if India wants to travel the current route, the Western one, then all citizens get uniform code of conduct. Second, if India wants to use the ancient path, then there is no need for uniform code. A muslim or Hindu could follow the traditions his religion advocates. India is straddling the Western and India path, and lands into these problems that the media and us like to discuss.
Sir,

You are mixing many things because (1) you are confused or (2) you are trying to confuse others.
Both are wrong!

I can explain but we will be OT.
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Kureeeel.....

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The usual suspects and sceptics from S.TN are missing amid the wrong-tree-barks....
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app is not working.

I made a new account registration. gave a missed call. did not get verification email...
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+100 to hari sir
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Snoopgate babu in hawala net


Thursday, 03 April 2014

The Gujarat Government on Wednesday dropped a bombshell in the Supreme Court in the snoopgate controversy by submitting call transcripts of IAS officer Pradeep Sharma, who is seeking a probe against Chief Minister Narendra Modi for allegedly snooping on a woman. Police are investigating his role in suspicious hawala transaction, owning benami properties and harbouring illicit relationship with several women.

In the affidavit, the State pointed out that “large-scale money” was transferred from India by Sharma in favour of his US-based wife either through some Dubai-based agent or by other modes. The two phones used by the petitioner were registered in the name of private companies in Kutch, bordering Pakistan.

“The said transactions are under an ongoing probe with the help of Financial Intelligence Unit India and Directorate of Enforcement,” the affidavit said. The phones were put on surveillance after specific intelligence inputs were received in 2009 about possibilities that several phones in Gujarat were used for anti-national activities and suspicious financial transactions.

The Additional Chief Secretary (Home) ordered several numbers, including the two numbers used by the applicant (Sharma), to be put on surveillance. More than the suspicious money transactions, the agencies were shocked to note that Sharma amassed benami properties, which were not mentioned in the annual statement of properties to be submitted by all IAS officers every year.

But what surprised the Gujarat Police most was the “highly obscene and *****” conversations which Sharma had with several women subordinates and wives of his relatives. The State Government clarified that none of the conversations involved the woman whose name surfaced in the snoopgate controversy. However, to protect the identity of other girls whose names are revealed in the transcripts, the State submitted it to the apex court as annexure in a sealed envelope.

The affidavit said, “Some of the contents of these conversations are too obscene and ***** in nature to be made a part of the pleadings or annexure in the present affidavit.” Giving a peek into the contents, the State Government said, “So far as conversations of the applicant containing illicit relationships with several married women are concerned, they happen to be either subordinate officers to the applicant or relatives/friends of the applicant.”

The affidavit came in response to Sharma’s application demanding a CBI probe into contents of a sting operation by two web portals which showed a woman’s phone being put on illegal surveillance by the Gujarat Police with a keen interest shown by former State Home Minister Amit Shah to know about her movements and whereabouts. Exposing Sharma’s credentials, who claimed to be victimised for taking on Modi, the State argued that the attempt to malign the political leadership of the State was timed by certain “vested interests”.

The State indicated that the probe against Sharma was on since 2009. “Taking resort to the irresponsible allegations of malafide by the applicant is clearly an abuse of the process of this court and also to pressurise the State agencies not to take any steps based upon the contents of the conversations as the applicant, being a senior IAS officer, may have come to know about the above referred recordings and the logical legal consequences flowing there from,” the affidavit said.

It further attacked Sharma for choosing an agency like CBI to probe the snoopgate controversy hinting that his brother, IPS officer Kuldeep Sharma, had last year got appointed as Adviser to Union Home Ministry, the nodal Ministry controlling CBI.
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gandharva wrote:Charlie Rose Show on Indian elections. Dhume, Arvind Pannagarhiya etc.

http://www.charlierose.com/watch/60365858

Thanks for the link. It was an refreshingly objective discussion, if a little too civil.
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you are right too civil we dont see discussion like this here :)

now some fun time :rotfl: http://www.theunrealtimes.com/2014/04/0 ... elections/ :mrgreen:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Modi-baiter Pradeep Sharma in many illicit relationships: Gujarat


Apr 3, 2014,
NEW DELHI: The Gujarat government on Wednesday alleged that suspended IAS officer Pradeep Sharma, who had accused BJP's prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi of ordering surveillance on a woman architect, was involved in several illicit relationships and hawala transactions to the US.

Sharma had moved the Supreme Court seeking transfer of investigation in four cases against him to CBI. He had alleged that false cases were foisted on him because the Modi government feared that he knew about the chief minister's relationship with the woman architect.

Sharma, whose brother and IPS officer Kuldeep Sharma was appointed an advisor in the Union home ministry after retirement, had also sought CBI investigation into the surveillance on the woman. Web portals had uploaded telephone intercepts which showed former state minister Amit Shah ordering officials to keep tabs on her as per orders of 'saheb'. Sharma had alleged that Modi was referred to as 'saheb'.

Opposing CBI probe into the allegations, the Gujarat government said, "An engineered controversy (snoopgate) by sudden posting of unauthenticated material on two web portals at a strategically chosen time with obvious and visible connivance of the home ministry of the central government with a view to pave way for and immediate malicious campaign no longer subsists in the light of facts narrated below."

In response to the court's notice on Sharma's application, the state said the petitioner had committed contempt by not removing the personal allegations against Modi as per the court's May 12, 2011 order when his petition came up for hearing seeking independent inquiry into the cases filed against him.

The state said Sharma's phones were kept under surveillance in 2009 after receiving intelligence inputs that certain anti-national activities were being carried out by him. It said surveillance revealed startling facts in the form of telephone intercepts.

It classified them under four categories:

* large-scale suspicious financial transactions by/at the behest of Sharma transferred from India in the name of his wife staying in the US either through Dubai-based agent or by other modes. The transactions are under investigation with the help of Financial Intelligence Unit (FIU) and Enforcement Directorate (ED).

* amassing of benami properties, information about which was not provided to authorities as required under rules

* disproportionate assets acquired by Sharma

* illicit relationship of Sharma with several married women, having ***** and/or obscene conversations with them who include his subordinate officers, wives of relatives etc.

The Gujarat government said the woman architect targeted through snoopgate has already given a clean chit to Modi by recording her statement before the Gujarat State Commission for Women where she went along with her husband and father. It said she "thanked the state agencies" for timely help rendered.

The state government gave copies of Sharma's telephone intercepts to the Supreme Court in a sealed cover revealing his illicit relationships. But it attempted to display sensitivity towards protecting the identity of the women.

It said, "These facts were never placed in public domain by the state government so far though were available on record of the state agencies since 2009. The very fact that the state government did not bring these facts in public domain till now would show that there is no malice against Sharma."

While providing a copy of the intercepted conversations to the court, the Modi government said, "Contents of these conversations are too obscene and ***** in nature to be made a part of the pleadings or annexure in the present affidavit. The state is also genuinely concerned with the fact that the identities of the women involved in the said conversations of Sharma needs to be protected and their anonymity has to be ensured."
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Sanjay 'Takloo' Jha would be like a cockroach with its antennae halal'ed
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bhargava wrote:Image

Sanjay 'Takloo' Jha would be like a cockroach with its antennae halal'ed

Sanjay 'Takloo' Jha will say that he is not bothered with the supreme court as Babu B is guilty in the "people's court" :twisted:
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Wonder what would the barking dog AK49 bark now about Gujarat? Babu Bokharia was their only talking point, that also got taken away.
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gandharva wrote: For starters, one of the biggest difference between Modi and Vajpayee is that the latter was popular no doubt, but was never in the same league as Modi. At no given point of time in his political career was Vajpayee even half as popular as Modi across so many geographies of India.

What is more, Vajpayee’s popularity never really went beyond BJP’s core voters, whereas the Modi of today is more popular among the OBCs than some of the biggest OBC leaders of heartland like Nitish, Lalu and Mulayam, the Modi of today is more popular among Jats than the tallest Jat leaders India has ever seen, the Modi of today is more popular among the Lingayats of Karnataka than the tallest Lingayat leader, BSY, the Modi of today is more popular among Marathas than the tallest Maratha leaders like Pawar and Thackerays, the Modi of today is more popular in Tamil Nadu than the tallest Dravidian leaders of the land! The Modi of today is even giving Mayawati a run for her money among the Dalit voters of Uttar Pradesh!
http://centreright.in/2014/04/is-narend ... zyOhaYzc39
Very nice insight, Vajpayee was the most popular and charismatic amongst leaders of BJP, while NaMo is the most popular and yogya(worthy) leader amongst all the leaders of Hindusthanam.
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vishant chaudhary wrote:you are right too civil we dont see discussion like this here :)

now some fun time :rotfl: http://www.theunrealtimes.com/2014/04/0 ... elections/ :mrgreen:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Man ur gonna give someone a stroke or a heart attack.
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Gus wrote:
disha wrote:However the marriage itself is a two step process. The first step is "betrothal" and the second step is "marriage". Something like "engagement" and "marriage".
is this not common in almost all communities?

for us, the 'nichayam' (engagement/fixing) can be as elaborate as the marriage itself. and for me, it was done in my absence as I was in massa and had to save the vacation days for marriage. it was strange to watch hundreds of my relatives come to the hall and wish my would-be. :lol:
Thats right. We have 'Sakharpuda' in Maharashtrian family followed by a 'Vivah' ceremony with 'mangalashtake'

Please see Atri Maharaj written 5 posts starting with this one

Hindu Marriage
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In Gujjus we have something similar, called a Gol-Dhana, then a formal engagement cerempny. Wedding is generally 5-6 months later.
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they keep us on tight leash. time between E1 and E2 is max 3 days, earlier it used to be 1 day always(1980s)
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Modi's rally in Ghaziabad is huge hit, it is in front of my office and many people are going to rally in office timings. Sadly i could not go due to injury but environment is so charged up. Funny thing is AAP supporter are trying to woo people with stopping them giving them Jadu Topi near the rally.
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Foreign policy: What will be Modi’s Rajdharma?
http://freepressjournal.in/foreign-poli ... rajdharma/
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the last remainging brick in wall is announcement of alliance with TDP. I expect late night negotiations to continue over the weekend with some push-pull, signoff from the top brass on sunday and finally a press conf and sweets on next week monday perhaps.

that would complete the ranks of pandava forces in kurukshetra.
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disha wrote:
SaiK wrote:disha, any tidbits on his wife staying with him? why this divorce?
There is no wife and no divorce. I hope you are asking this question as a true enquiry and not as a criticism on the person/persons or his community. The former is fine, later is not tolerated - because only criticism can come from people who understand the "caste" system.

NaMo comes from the Modhwada clan (notice I am not calling it caste) and generally the clan originates from Modhwada, Saurashtra. Now some rajputs are also part of the modhwada clan so you may find upper class modis who are born to say a rai bahadur (british term) or a basically a prince (I think they are called Bardais)., and also you find tool makers (swords, hammers, sickles etc) and artisans (famously the nomadic sisodiyas) including cobblers etc.

NaMo belongs to the cobblers (some people wrongly call it Ghanchi - that is not the case).

They follow certain "curious" (I call it "modern") custom where widow marriages, divorces, marriage post divorce of women is simple and straightforward. For example if a divorcee female is remarried, she gives her former ex-husband "veth" or a small donation, the minimum is 1.25 Rs. Widow marriages are common and is a simpler process of giving a personal gift to the widow and its acceptance by the widow (generally a male gives his turban - basically his honour). However the marriage itself is a two step process. The first step is "betrothal" and the second step is "marriage". Something like "engagement" and "marriage".

Modi was bethrothed against his wishes when he was a teen (16 I think) and he never proceeded to second step having called off his marriage (calling it off from his side breaks the betrothal as well). However the female in question never let go of the "betrothal" and did not move on and considered herself "married". In a way from a personal PoV this is a tragedy. From legal perspective, there is no marriage since Modi was never married.

Modi himself never revisited this chapter. So the matter should end there.


Now of course, the sick media (extremely sick of them) to go and interview her and call her married and making fun of Modi is plain wrong (and sickening).

Note I am explaining since this comes up often and I really find it annoying when the Indian MSM itself does not understand the nuances and starts "secular" moralizing.

Having said the above, any discussion on his personal life is intrusion., however I do want to take the chance to enlighten certain forward (or pre-historic but modern) looking practices.
Excellent post!

I think this post should be made sticky on any thread related to discussion about Narendra Modi.

PS: I really hope the Hindus across the nation adopt just practices when it comes to widow remarriage and their rights/freedoms.
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Modi ji taking on Damad Vadra now at Kurukshetra. He is going for the knockout punch !!
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The King who is yet to be crowned calls out a defiant challenge standing at the gates of Minas Morgul...

>>India Today ‏@IndiaToday 18m
Congress will not open its account in Haryana: @NarendraModi in Kurukshetra.
News Flash: http://goo.gl/vH4mnO

The hands of a king are the hands of a healer... And man, is NM doing his best to heal the wounds caused by cong divisiveness and sickularism...
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• You keep money, jewellery and all under lock and keys but did you ever keep coal like that: Narendra Modi in Haryana
• Kurukshetra can become a place that can draw tourists from all over the world: Narendra Modi in Haryana
• I know Haryana very well. I will not take any time to understand the problems of Haryana, its people & farmers: Narendra Modi in Haryana
• Shazada, in the Chowkidars you are going to find will your brother-in-law also be a Chowkidar? And will he guard lands: Narendra Modi
• They are rich for them politics is a hobby but for us its a medium to serve the poor: Narendra Modi in Haryana
• From this land I will say- Paisa nahi, Pasina aur Pavitrata Jeetegi: Narendra Modi
• On one side there is money power but on the other side there is the hard word and sweat of the people: Narendra Modi in Haryana
• In Haryana Congress will not open its account: Narendra Modi in Kurukshetra
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congress to ask EC to check EVM machines, are they preparing to tamper?
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IndraD wrote:congress to ask EC to check EVM machines, are they preparing to tamper?
Yes. This drama is played before every central election, where Cong accuses BJP of tampering with EVMs. This is to pre-empt criticism from BJP later when they cry foul because the results show abnormal increase in Cong seats. The Cong argument then goes something like: "Oh yeah, wasn't it you who was caught tampering with EVMs and all votes were going to BJP candidate? Wasn't the Cong the party which asked Election Commission to keep the EVMs safe from tampering from goons? Looks like you cannot digest your defeat that occurred due to Sonia Gandhi's vast popularity among the masses."

Be very careful -- Congis are going to fiddle with EVMs to make sure Third Front comes to power with Congi support. BJP must be really stupid not to sense the danger from EVM fraud. It is not a coincidence that Cong was almost dead when NDA ruled India but miraculously resurrected in 2004 in "shock defeat" of BJP when EVMs were introduced, and Congis have never lost a Central election since.

Despite euphoria about Modi, I see very slim chance of BJP coming to power as long as EVMs remain. There is a reason why all other countries in the world, including the US, have refused to use them in elections.
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Narendra Modi's opponent, caught tearing his posters, arrested
Vadodara: Madhusudhan Mistry, who is running against Narendra Modi in Vadodara, has been arrested after he was filmed ripping down posters of the BJP's prime ministerial candidate. Mr Mistry, a Congressman, tried to replace Mr Modi's advertisements with his own, with help from supporters. He has been booked for damage to public property.
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Look at this tripe that has been printed across 2 full pages in Gulf News

http://gulfnews.com/opinions/columnists ... -1.1312919

Isn't he the same Naqvi who used to write with his Musharraf in That paki paper?
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sooraj wrote:Foreign policy: What will be Modi’s Rajdharma?
http://freepressjournal.in/foreign-poli ... rajdharma/
An US and non India centric view espoused by the author. Have we really got no spine?
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rajithn wrote:Look at this tripe that has been printed across 2 full pages in Gulf News

http://gulfnews.com/opinions/columnists ... -1.1312919

Isn't he the same Naqvi who used to write with his Musharraf in That paki paper?
These people can never be reformed or changed. Religious hatred of others will always be their USP.
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Singha wrote:the last remainging brick in wall is announcement of alliance with TDP. I expect late night negotiations to continue over the weekend with some push-pull, signoff from the top brass on sunday and finally a press conf and sweets on next week monday perhaps.

that would complete the ranks of pandava forces in kurukshetra.
Historically Andhras were always with Dharmic forces; in all Deva-Danava sangrams. Lets hope this trend continues.
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Cobrapost ‏@cobrapost 8h
#Cobrapost reveals the masterplan of the biggest conspiracy on Friday at the Press Club of India at 10.15 am
The ba$tard traitors are still trying hard. They have not given up yet

The same scums who came up with Snoopgate and some internet spam spreading scam.
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