Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Vikas » 04 Apr 2014 14:17

Who are the BJP candidates from Kashmir ?

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Postby pankajs » 04 Apr 2014 14:37

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby niran » 04 Apr 2014 14:44

Numbers from the house fly world
this time it is from the house of congress
according to their own survey
congress no more than 48 ain't a typo
RJD best zero
NCP no more than 3
bjp alone 293 with allies 330
bsp is getting major chunk of Muslim votes

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Singha » 04 Apr 2014 15:08

fits in with my dream of INC < 50. things will follow from there for EJs, paid media, NGO network, foreign consultants, the defence industry middlemen....all the leeches sucking the nation's blood.

MMS has done his job majorly well ... Namo should thank him in his last pre-election rally...perhaps pay a visit in person with tokri of best quality besan and bundi laddoo :lol:

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby SRoy » 04 Apr 2014 15:19

so the climbdown is

winning -> prevent BJP -> prevent NDA -> anyone but NaMo -> getting some seats

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby RajeshA » 04 Apr 2014 15:21

Some time ago, I thought that there was no credible BJP presence in Odisha, and it may not get more than a couple of seats at the maximum, if it is lucky.

Now hearing BJP going to takeover as the main opposition in Odisha, pushing INC to 3rd place.

Now that NaMo is more or less sure he will get the numbers, and may not need to depend on Naveen Patnaik's MPs, NaMo has decided to go all out and attack BJD.

Considering that Odisha Assembly Elections are being held simultaneously with Lok Sabha elections, NaMo wave could give Odisha's BJP unit a leg up in the Assembly Elections.

As the main opposition, whenever Naveen Patnaik is hauled over the coals in connection with the corruption cases, BJP should be there to take over Odisha.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Singha » 04 Apr 2014 15:31

Shahi Imam asks Muslims to vote for Congress, TMC, flays SP, BSP

"Mamata Banerjee will never be a part of the NDA. Keeping this in mind, we support the TMC," Muslim cleric Shahi Imam Bukhari said.
Congress must fulfil its promises: Shahi Imam
'Communalism, not corruption, the biggest issue'
Backing BSP will be a waste of vote: Shahi Imam
SP failed to protect Muslims: Shahi Imam

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Supratik » 04 Apr 2014 15:34

I will be cautious about Orissa. The state unit is no-good and without a charismatic leader to take on Naveen. So their capability to capitalize on Modi-wave is not great. Naveen is going to win. BJP will be happy if they get 1-2 seats.

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Postby SRoy » 04 Apr 2014 15:37

:) this will confuse pissfulls and sickulars for sure.
TMC or Cong in WB?
What of pissfulls already with SP and BSP UP?
So, UP SP and BSP gets destroyed so that a consolidation helps Cong? Where do the SP and BSP non-pissfulls orphans go? And what happens with counter-consolidation?

Vinash kale viprit buddhi

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Postby member_28173 » 04 Apr 2014 15:38

Supratik wrote:I will be cautious about Orissa. The state unit is no-good and without a charismatic leader to take on Naveen. So their capability to capitalize on Modi-wave is not great. Naveen is going to win. BJP will be happy if they get 1-2 seats.


Even if BJP gets 10 seats, Support Naveen to get in NDA..... we need. Yes I look stupid to say so but...

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Postby Arunkumar » 04 Apr 2014 15:39

Swamy's statement of breaking of muslim vote coming true. Wonder who in the communal camp war gamed it before polls. Amit shah?

Muslim vote % from high to low: 1.)TMC 2.)BSP 3.)Congress 4.)IUML 5.)SP
ncp and jdu finished???
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Postby member_28173 » 04 Apr 2014 15:40

SRoy wrote::) this will confuse pissfulls and sickulars for sure.
TMC or Cong in WB?
What of pissfulls already with SP and BSP UP?
So, UP SP and BSP gets destroyed so that a consolidation helps Cong? Where do the SP and BSP non-pissfulls orphans go? And what happens with counter-consolidation?

Vinash kale viprit buddhi


EVEN after election when BSP gets 3 seats ( which I hope ) we ( NDA ) should welcome Mayawati..... She is good sometimes. We need dalit. I will spread sweets the day BSP Dalits joins so-called-upper caste BJP party.

She is valuable. I Like the way Amit Shah Speaks.. Bit Gujju speak

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby member_28173 » 04 Apr 2014 15:45

Hope AGP merges with BJP, BSP and BJP joins NDA post elections.... may be INLD after some whak joins NDA.
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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby satya » 04 Apr 2014 15:45

ramana wrote:satya, Right after Emergency the newsppaers as TV was DD only in those days, all used to report a positive Congress support for m public eventhough there was ground swell support for Janata Party. I and my firends walked from IITM to Marina Beach to hear the Janata party leaders and new the jig was up for Congress when we saw the crowds. in fairness Mrs Gandhi also drew a lot of crowd but her speech was lacking in conviction.
The press and DD kept the charade till late 2:00 AM on counting nights and suddenly DD annaouncer started telling the truth. usual apologists blamed IB for faulty survey that made her declare elections. The apologists who were benefitting from her tyranny wanted it to continue.

So same phenomoena we see now only difference is the apoloists are supporting COngress without much fear of danda but greed.


Ramanaji

Thnxx for the insight . One recurring theme is : There is anti-congress wave ( even die-hard congis admit hence the rush for RS birth) . What's open to debate is the extent of Modi wave .
Last hope for Congress in UP is : Muslims vote enmasse for single candidate + insignificant drop in BSP's core votebank + 'promised' backstabbing from a particular section of hindus + typical confusing ( read divided ) Jat votes in west UP after initial anger + backroom deal with SP & BSP in place & followed in spirit.
For BJP's best outcome is : drop in Muslim voting coupled with division among BSP& SP-INC ( this time both BSP & SP are claiming ahead in race to defeat BJP by putting good rival candidates ) + getting 5% + (at very minimum) votes from BSP's core votebank + ensuring backstabbing having limited impact + way more than average participation of BJP own votebank + OBC appeal working .
In either scenario BJP's number should either be above 55+ or below 30 . No place in between as per my very limited information.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby SRoy » 04 Apr 2014 15:47

all regional leaders thrive on <own caste>+minority vote formula.

once the minority vote splits or their own platform is out of power these arrangements will meltdown.

so no need for Biju/Maya et al.

once parties are out of power these prima donnas need to be finished politically, and their cadre and voter base assimilated with appropriate ideological purges.

alternative model is local hardline setups like Shiv Sena that are natural and ideological allies with full intel sharing through RSS.


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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby RajeshA » 04 Apr 2014 15:52

In whole of North India & Hindi Heartland (JK, HP, PB, DL, HR, RJ, GJ, UK, UP, BR, JH, MP, CG) only state where Congress could get 3 or more seats is Punjab, may be UP.

Congress is also finished in Seemandhra and Tamil Nadu in the South.

I would say for Congress

PB - 4
HR - 1
MP - 1
UP - 3
MH - 6
KA - 9
KL - 9
TG - 5
AS - 7
OR - 1
LD - 1
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44 Seats

AAP is getting ZERO seats. Both in LS and in Assembly.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby pankajs » 04 Apr 2014 16:06

Setback to Congress as key Youth Congress leader joins SAD
http://www.hindustantimes.com/punjab/ja ... 04010.aspx
Already lagging behind its main rival Shiromani Akali Dal in campaigning for Jalandhar Lok Sabha seat, the Congress received a major setback on Thursday when former state general secretary of Punjab Youth Congress Monty Sehgal joined SAD in the presence of party president Sukhbir Singh Badal.

Sehgal, who is considered a key strategist of Congress candidate from Jalandhar and former minister Chaudhary Santokh Singh, has been associated with the Chaudhary family for long and is one of the closest friends of Chaudhary’s son and state youth Congress president, Vikram Chaudhary. Sources said it is only because of the strained relations between Vikram and Sehgal, that the latter decided to leave the Congress and joined SAD.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby sum » 04 Apr 2014 16:30


Even BJP couldnt have asked for a better way to ensure few more 1000s of votes land up in their lap.

It almost seems like a BJP masterstroke since any normal undecided guy ( non-IM) would drift away from INC/Head towards the "Hindu right" with such blatant "secularism" on display and the IMs would split all their votes between all the "secular parties".

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby RajeshA » 04 Apr 2014 16:39

By taking away all the Hindu votes, NaMo is forcing all the secular dogs to fight it out for the Muslim vote-bank bone, driving yet more Hindus to the BJP!

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby pankajs » 04 Apr 2014 16:55

Firstpost ‏@firstpostin 22m

TRS promises 12 percent reservation for Muslims in manifesto http://dlvr.it/5JwkJn

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Rony » 04 Apr 2014 17:03

General elections 2014 - Reference handbook from PIB, GOI

http://pib.nic.in/elections2014/Tree.aspx

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby muraliravi » 04 Apr 2014 17:37

niran wrote:Numbers from the house fly world
this time it is from the house of congress
according to their own survey
congress no more than 48 ain't a typo
RJD best zero
NCP no more than 3
bjp alone 293 with allies 330
bsp is getting major chunk of Muslim votes


Niran saab,

How is the jatav vote, are they still with BSP?

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby pankajs » 04 Apr 2014 18:28

Sonia Gandhi’s rally draws poor attendance, ridicules Narendra Modi’s ambitions
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... ambitions/

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Sanjay » 04 Apr 2014 18:32

niran, I really hope you aren't getting our hopes up !

I believe what you tell us (don't get me wrong). It is just that sometimes I really wonder about predicting voting patterns in India.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby pankajs » 04 Apr 2014 18:49

Niti Central ‏@NitiCentral 24m

Listen! Shahid Siddiqui says "#Muslims in Delhi call Shahi Imam "Bhikari" http://www.niticentral.com/2014/04/04/l ... 07602.html
Deepak Singh ‏@smarket 1h

Udit Raj was so agitated in the program. He asked Muslim leaders tell me one Muslim agitation for economic well being of Muslims in India.
Alok Bhatt ‏@alok_bhatt 1h

RT @smarket I hv 0 sympathy 4 Muslims.They r more concerned abt Muslims abroad (Palestine, Burma) than Muslims who live in India-Udit Raj

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Chandragupta » 04 Apr 2014 19:00

Wow, Udit Raj seems to be breathing fire. He seems to have discovered Hindutva!

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby pankajs » 04 Apr 2014 19:16

Saswati Sarkar ‏@sarkar_swati 11m

BJP increasing in successive CSDS polls MT @FCBtheChamps: CSDS March Poll: NDA: 234-246 (BJP:206-218), UPA: 111-123 (INC:94-106).

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby muraliravi » 04 Apr 2014 19:19

AIADMK (Jaya) 2014 Manifesto Page 30

The long pending demand to include Scheduled Caste converts to other religions in the list of Scheduled Castes will be fulfilled.

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Postby pankajs » 04 Apr 2014 19:26

Subramanian Swamy ‏@Swamy39 35m

Addressed Karnavati press and released U of Camb letter that Buddhu failed MPhil economics paper so no MPhil.
CNN-IBN News ‏@ibnlive 58m

RT @IBNLiveRealtime Priyanka Gandhi could play a larger role if Congress loses 2014 elections: Sources

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Postby KJo » 04 Apr 2014 19:47

muraliravi wrote:AIADMK (Jaya) 2014 Manifesto Page 30

The long pending demand to include Scheduled Caste converts to other religions in the list of Scheduled Castes will be fulfilled.


What about Brahmins? We demand to be included in Scheduled Castes too! We are oppressed and depressed.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby SagarAg » 04 Apr 2014 19:56

muraliravi wrote:
Niran saab,

How is the jatav vote, are they still with BSP?

jatav bahul village UP
This was a superb episode of prime time. Every house in the village had respective flag of party they are supporting, amazing. Ravish tells in middile how BJP have made in roads in jatav community :)

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Sanjay » 04 Apr 2014 20:05

I see IBN is giving those results now.
CSDS - 206-218 BJP ?

Fingers crossed.
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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby ramana » 04 Apr 2014 20:19

ramana wrote:Niran
Great report. Please upload pic of a typical NaMo poster we can also print and share amongst folks here.
In Uttar Khand didn't flood relief non-performance by Bahuguna impact Congress?



Niran Request.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Shanmukh » 04 Apr 2014 20:21

Malayappan wrote:nageshks might find this interesting! Guess it is not yet posted!

Sweeping Mood for poriborton

That is on Upper Assam.


Thanks, Malayappan-ji. Out of the five seats going to polls on 7, only 1 is certain for the Congress (Kaliabor) and one more is slightly pro-Congress (Dibrugarh). 3 more (Tezpur, Jorhat and Lakhimpur) are in the toss up category, with Lakhimpur being slightly pro-BJP. We shall know soon enough, I guess.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby ramana » 04 Apr 2014 20:27

niran wrote:Congress dirty tricks dept. at its best
cobra news is propagating a sting were it proves
that those who brought down the babri mosque
had prior demolition training


though this has caused a lot of mirth
amongst the cadres and volunteers the upper echlon
are taking it seriously and a complaint has been filed with CEC.



One CT is it was massa's first attempt after fall of FSU to bring a color revolution in India. LKA and other windbags were making pompous speeches about bringing Masjid down but had no real plans. Yet it was brought down very quickly.
PVNR stood the ground even though he has minoroty govt. The rumor and expectation in the babu circles was the giovt would resign. He did not to prevent disroder and chaos.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby pankajs » 04 Apr 2014 20:28

Rajdeep on CNN-IBN still hoping AAP drag BJP down in UP/Bihar.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby ramana » 04 Apr 2014 20:32

niran wrote:Numbers from the house fly world
this time it is from the house of congress
according to their own survey
congress no more than 48 ain't a typo
RJD best zero
NCP no more than 3
bjp alone 293 with allies 330
bsp is getting major chunk of Muslim votes




Explains the Shahi Imam Bhukari's rant against Muslims voting for BSP!!!


Now that he is fully immersed in poliitcs is it OK to attack him politically! Hope he wont claim religious figure immunity.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby muraliravi » 04 Apr 2014 20:32

Sanjay wrote:Is that CSDS out yet ?


BJP 208-216 up from their jan tracker of 193-210.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Sanjay » 04 Apr 2014 20:33

Yup - good so far.


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