Malaysian Airlines Flight MH-370 goes missing

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This has all the signs of a bunch of people who lied, and are now adding more lies to cover up, and losing all coordination. That "8AM scramble" would be hilarious, until you consider that possibility.
Didn't your Air Force scramble when they found a radar trace at 2AM?
Oh, "scramble"? Oh yes, they did: They scrambled at 8AM but they didn't tell anyone about it until 3 days later when they filed the weekly kitchen supplies report.
Huh??
It's EGGS that you scramble at 8AM in the Officers' Mess, not fighter planes. :roll:
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Which of the "Pings" have the wizards of Oz identified? Could it be one of the 100+ Chinese aboard the missing MH 370?

Lee Ping (Olympic athlete),Jum Ping (acrobat) ,Murong Ping (Chin emperor),Har Ping (musician),Skip Ping (jailbird),Lip Ping (carpenter),Lop Ping (timber merchant),Pum Ping (pump manufacturer),Dum Ping (garbage collector),Lum Ping (baker),Ram Ping (shepherd),Camp Ping (Ooh,what a luvverly Queen dar-ling!),Stam Ping (postman), Cram Ping (student),Gri Ping (paediatrician), Gras Ping (Banker) ,Sni Ping ( soldier),Mo Ping (shrink),Do Ping (medical rep-tell us another!),Ho Ping (astrologer),Drip Ping (painter),Slip Ping (famous Chinese shoemaker),Rip Ping (psycopath),Ra Ping (his cousin,sex maniac),Lis Ping,(speech therapist),Tip Ping (waiter),Flip Ping (lunatic),Loo Ping (sanitaryware dealer),Pup Ping (vet aka stud),Map Ping ( surveyor),Lap Ping,(Olympic swimmer),Flap Ping ( the MH pilot),Cap Ping (hatter),Cup Ping (gay teacher),Nip Ping (bitch),Car Ping(used car salesman),Bur Ping (foodie),Wi Ping (car wash attendant),Wee Ping (needs to see a sexologist!),Snap Ping (locksmith),Slap Ping (Bitch's sis),Clas Ping (cop),Trip Ping (travel agent),War Ping (PLA general),Hy PIng (ad exec),Pi Ping (plumber),Dung Shit Ping ( PRC politico),Swi Ping (burglar),Dam Ping (Income Tax officer), Slee Ping (watchman),Nap Ping (watchman),Rea Ping (farmer),Pee Ping (voyeur),Stop Ping (traffic cop),Co Ping (maid),Ga Ping (LGBT activist,how precious!),Scra Ping (cleaner),Scrap Ping (Olympic boxer),Crap Ping (Chinese take-away chef),Stoo Ping (geriatric),Gro Ping (pervert),'lo Ping (bigamist), Ro Ping (boatman),Top Ping (pastry chef),Ta Ping (DJ),Tap Ping (plumber),Rap Ping (singer),Ty Ping (clerk),Clip Ping (barber),Trap Ping (poacher),Whel Ping (dog breeder),Hel Ping (porter),Du Ping (con-man),Sup Ping (hotelier),Zap Ping (electrician),Snoo Ping (spy),Whoo Ping (ENT doc),Stum Ping (Hong Kong cricketeer),Sip Ping (barman),Dip Ping (swimming instructor),O'Ping (illegal immigrant with fake passport heading for Ireland),the names released thus far,plus...

Hum Ping (runs a Shanghai cathouse!) and his cousins Clap Ping ( VD specialist) ,Bum Ping (rent boy), Whop Ping,(gigolo) and Pim Ping (you all know him!).
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:D
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^^ :rotfl: A.K.A :Laugh Ping:
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Sorry there is only one Ping that applies to this sad case, for all the relatives and friends who have been tortured for a month now beyond the grief and immense difficulties that have befallen them anyway: Wee Ping. Every hour that passes in the circus of nonsense, draws out their agony still more, unimaginably. There is of course no joy if a Ping is confirmed as coming from the wreckage, just shattering finality. There is no joy if the pings are NOT confirmed, just torture of continued suspense, anxiety, despair.

Perhaps the Malaysian PM and Air Force Defense Transportation Cousin Minister should be asked to kindly shut up until the issue is properly resolved and the remains clearly found. 8AM Scramble, indeed!
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Philip wrote:Which of the "Pings" have the wizards of Oz identified? Could it be one of the 100+ Chinese aboard the missing MH 370?

Lee Ping (Olympic athlete),Jum Ping (acrobat) ,Murong Ping (Chin emperor),Har Ping (musician),Skip Ping (jailbird),Lip Ping (carpenter),Lop Ping (timber merchant),Pum Ping (pump manufacturer),Dum Ping (garbage collector),Lum Ping (baker),Ram Ping (shepherd),Camp Ping (Ooh,what a luvverly Queen dar-ling!),Stam Ping (postman), Cram Ping (student),Gri Ping (paediatrician), Gras Ping (Banker) ,Sni Ping ( soldier),Mo Ping (shrink),Do Ping (medical rep-tell us another!),Ho Ping (astrologer),Drip Ping (painter),Slip Ping (famous Chinese shoemaker),Rip Ping (psycopath),Ra Ping (his cousin,sex maniac),Lis Ping,(speech therapist),Tip Ping (waiter),Flip Ping (lunatic),Loo Ping (sanitaryware dealer),Pup Ping (vet aka stud),Map Ping ( surveyor),Lap Ping,(Olympic swimmer),Flap Ping ( the MH pilot),Cap Ping (hatter),Cup Ping (gay teacher),Nip Ping (bitch),Car Ping(used car salesman),Bur Ping (foodie),Wi Ping (car wash attendant),Wee Ping (needs to see a sexologist!),Snap Ping (locksmith),Slap Ping (Bitch's sis),Clas Ping (cop),Trip Ping (travel agent),War Ping (PLA general),Hy PIng (ad exec),Pi Ping (plumber),Dung Shit Ping ( PRC politico),Swi Ping (burglar),Dam Ping (Income Tax officer), Slee Ping (watchman),Nap Ping (watchman),Rea Ping (farmer),Pee Ping (voyeur),Stop Ping (traffic cop),Co Ping (maid),Ga Ping (LGBT activist,how precious!),Scra Ping (cleaner),Scrap Ping (Olympic boxer),Crap Ping (Chinese take-away chef),Stoo Ping (geriatric),Gro Ping (pervert),'lo Ping (bigamist), Ro Ping (boatman),Top Ping (pastry chef),Ta Ping (DJ),Tap Ping (plumber),Rap Ping (singer),Ty Ping (clerk),Clip Ping (barber),Trap Ping (poacher),Whel Ping (dog breeder),Hel Ping (porter),Du Ping (con-man),Sup Ping (hotelier),Zap Ping (electrician),Snoo Ping (spy),Whoo Ping (ENT doc),Stum Ping (Hong Kong cricketeer),Sip Ping (barman),Dip Ping (swimming instructor),O'Ping (illegal immigrant with fake passport heading for Ireland),the names released thus far,plus...

Hum Ping (runs a Shanghai cathouse!) and his cousins Clap Ping ( VD specialist) ,Bum Ping (rent boy), Whop Ping,(gigolo) and Pim Ping (you all know him!).
And you took time to write this...........salam Saar. Bhabi ji ghar pe nahi hein kya :mrgreen:
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Given that 66.666% of earth is water

1) What is the probability that a aircraft when and if it comes down
Will fall in water?

2) given that aircraft that fell in water what is the probability that it's a passenger airline?

3) given that it is passenger aircraft and is having pax what is the probability that none survived?

4) given the above what is the probability of atleast one Pax to survive when all the pilots died?

5) given the above and none survived what is the probability that black box would be located with in. A month or before the battery dies
6) given the above what is the probability if a airline to come down in
A Pacific Ocean
B Atlantic Ocean
C Indian Ocean
D Bay of Bengal
E Malacca Straits
F Gulf Persian
G Arabian Sea

Finally if it comes down in
Dead Sea any survivors
Black Sea

Why can't there be two black boxes one transmitting immidiately and one after sixty days and what
Would be the probability of location due to second transmitter having the first one failed?

Is there any instance that the black box failed to transmitt at all?
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^^^^ Ulan Batori, from the CNN link you provided:
Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 disappeared from military radar for about 120 nautical miles after it crossed back over the Malaysian Peninsula, sources say. Based on available data, this means the plane must have dipped in altitude to between 4,000 and 5,000 feet, a senior Malaysian government official and a source involved in the investigation tell CNN.
1. Note the : After it crossed back over the Malaysian peninsula.
2. If it disappeared for 120 nautical miles, it means that it reappeared?

So the plane disappears from Malaysian radar, and then reappears, meaning between it was flying low enough for that period to evade radar? If it didn't reappear at all, one might conclude it crashed near the point of first disappearance?
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In Dead sea you may have more survivors as you are likely to float even without knowing swimming i.e. if you survived the crash.
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Pilots of Jet flight that vanished for 30 minutes grounded
April 10, 2014 17:40 IST
.. pilots overlooked increasing the speaker volume after removing the headsets resulting in a break in communication for almost 30 minutes. The pilots in their official deposition said they had removed their headsets.
Both pilots of were taken off the roster for two weeks during the investigations into the "serious" incident, the sources said. The incident created a panic situation for German air traffic control DFS Deutsche Flugsicherung GmbH which later shot off a complaint to Directorate General of Civil Aviation.
Reminds me of the strong memo from Herr Dieter Schmidt about Mice Schidt im Das Rice from way back... :eek:
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So the plane disappears from Malaysian radar, and then reappears, meaning between it was flying low enough for that period to evade radar? If it didn't reappear at all, one might conclude it crashed near the point of first disappearance?
Who knows what these Einsteins are saying any more? They are just giving out statements through their musharrafs. I still ask: WHY did the Malaysian Air Force "scramble" at 8AM?? The plane was supposed to run out of fuel by 8AM, I think the critical PakMarSat peeeeng-peeeeng (Doppler-shifted ping-ping) was at 8:11, hain? So it was visible or very close to Malaysian Air Force radar at that point, enough to cause a scramble???

But how can you believe anything these guys say, or what CNN reports of what they say? Clearly the CNN Einstein or their editor didn't think about why they would scramble so many hours after the initial disappearance.

The other question is: Why would it go down to 5000 feet, except to land? You know, 5000 feet is extremely dangerous - Malaysia has mountains higher than that. So did it land, refuel and take off for a long-range mission? Again, without knowing why the air force scrambled at 8AM (or when did they really scramble), we just stay totally confused - and maybe that's the intention.
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^^^ ---> After it crossed the Malaysian peninsula.
The other question is: Why would it go down to 5000 feet, except to land? You know, 5000 feet is extremely dangerous - Malaysia has mountains higher than that.


So that had to be over sea.
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Malaysian Airlines SOP may be glimpsed from this: what they might do to keep evidence from coming out.
all the audio information relating to the incident was lost because the cockpit voice recorder ran on long after the landing. The body said the airline's "procedures for the preservation of flight recordings were not sufficiently robust."
Totally accidental? I understand that the pilots may have been in bad shock after a near-death experience, but.. general panic or instinct to cover up? U decide..
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So that had to be over sea.
Which makes me wonder. You know, if you lose an engine, the recommended procedure is to go down to low altitude and fly slowly, because that increases L/D and saves fuel. May increase range, sure increases endurance. Did they do that to fly a very long distance, I wonder, all under radar. Like, no need to refuel in the Maldives to get across to Somalia. The statement there about "automatic emergency procedure is to go down to 5000 feet" seems pretty silly because, how does the autopilot know whether you are over sea or over 8000-foot mountains? I think the emergency procedure would be to level off at 10,000 feet, where no one dies of hypoxia. Cabin pressurization is 8000 feet, hain?

Remember the story about the Airbus that lost an engine - choice was to land in Italy, which meant carting an inop engine back to Germany, or keep flying to Germany. Hans and Kurt decided to reach Germany. Descended to low altitude. Fuel gauge wasn't working too good, but they had super-duper Airbus Fuel Estimation Software (S-DAFES) that told them they wee fine. Fell short by some considerable distance, crashlanded, plane lost, most people survived I think. Turned out that the landing gear came down automatically in L'Airbus Super-Dooper Automatic Software, and Kurt and Hans didn't notice. So fuel burn was terrible, and S-DAFES didn't have a case programmed where someone would try to fly a long distance with gear extended.

The DG CT begins to sound more possible with every revelation...
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Hope the Kitchen on the ship is not the source of ping. Spoons and knives do produce many pings, falling on the floor. Strange that they have not heard the most important Ping I.e Paki Ping to locate the plane.
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Probably their cellphones kept going off. This is Gen-X Chinese ppl, wired to the extreme.
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UlanBatori wrote:Perhaps the Malaysian PM and Air Force Defense Transportation Cousin Minister should be asked to kindly shut up until the issue is properly resolved and the remains clearly found. 8AM Scramble, indeed!
Egjactly.

Normally on pain of being fired, but these are Bhumi putras we are talking about here, so maybe withdrawal of SDRE chauffeur for 2 days.

Same applies to the Aussies. Suit/Boot not withstanding.
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^^^^^ :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Shasthaaanga pranaam to you Shri Shri Phillip ji.
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Russian tabloid claims MH370 is in Pakistan

Finally The Ping That Ring The Land Where Birds Fly With One Wingl
Russian newspaper "Moskovsky Komsomolets" claims that the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH 370 was hijacked by the terrorists. The plane carried 239 passengers and was missing from March 8th. An anonymous source in the intelligence agencies told the Russian newspaper that the plane was in Afghanistan near the border with Pakistan. It was also told that all passengers survived the hard landing but were in severe condition due to shortage of food.The terrorists had the intention to kidnap experts travelling through the airline for pitching their demands. The sources added that the plane was on a road near the mountain range with a broken wing because of the emergency landing. All experts were brought into the bunker in Pakistan. The sources mentioned that a militant named “Hitch” instructed the pilot throughout its journey while the world kept on finding clues for the missing plane
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In honor of "Russian newspaper "Moskovsky Komsomolets" I plotted on skyvector.com a course to take MH370 to Pakistan. The main condition is it has to skirt India and Sri Lanka (who I don't think have any reason to participate in a cover-up, not being so allied with Pakistan). It flies over the Maldives and ends up on the Baluchistan/Afghanistan border.

It is IGARI-VAMPI-GIVAL-(part way to IGREX interrupted at 8°6.95'N, 96°33.22'E, SADRI, RUXER, GOKAM, BIBGO, LATEM, SERKA.

This route is just within the range of the plane. Of course it doesn't match INMARSAT, etc.

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http://news.sky.com/story/1240589/every ... ight-mh370
Hishammuddin Hussein, Malaysia's defence minister and acting transport minister, admitted that mistakes had been made in the way relatives had sometimes been treated.

But, during a lengthy interview, he defended his country's handling of what he described as an "unprecedented situation without benchmark".

Talking to Sky News in a Kuala Lumpur city centre hotel, he said the criminal investigation remains live.

"Everyone on board remains under suspicion as it stands," he said.

"As we look into the black box, we look into new facts. It isn't just MI6 involved in the investigation, it is Chinese intelligence, it's also the FBI.
.....
On what work MI6 has helped with, he explained: "The whole passenger manifest, the FBI looked at the simulator, that will all come out later.

"I find it difficult to say more without jeopardising the investigation. The truth will prevail."
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Wind Breaking news! Scoop-new Hollywood film being made featuring more Pings.

New multiple Pings have been located ....at Augusta,at the US Masters!

Ping also say that they're willing to sponsor the search (in return for free ad time on world TV) and are rumoured to be financing a Hollywood flic on the mystery. "Jet" Li is to play the lead role with famed martial arts director Yuen Woo-Ping directing.Bunga Bunga Berlusconi playgirl,"Ruby Heartthrob" will be the hot attraction from the wicked West along with top Hong Kong ***** actress Charlie Ng .The supporting cast includes Sing actor Tai Ping and a guest role for "Mr.Ping" from Kung Fu Panda! Minor roles will include ***** starts Whop Ping and Bum Ping,supplied by their agent Pim Ping.Special guest star is Bunga Bunga himself,as himself in his inimitable Bunga Bunga pary style! Music by Elton John who also stars in a special guest role.X-rates scenes by SM expert "Whip Ping",with a special guest role here for for Max Mosley! Technical expertise and special effects by Chip Ping (CGI expert).A special thanks to the Malaysian Air Farce who displayed their incompetence,who made a mess of things,and expertise at scrambling eggs in their mess!

The plot:
Is the truth of the missing MH lying in what the many golf sets aboard contained? Why are the Malaysians still not revealing the cargo manifest? "Jet" Li the pilot,in secret a martial arts expert and top Chinese agent (see Kiss of the Dragon),masquerades as the MH pilot (see Thunderball) and takes over the MH flight to prevent the deadly bio-warfare WMDs hidden in golf balls and golf sets made by "Ping" from being detonated in Beijing,wi-Ping out the entire Chinese political and military heirarchy.The evil plot,orchestrated by the CIA under orders from the US president,in secret an Al Qaeda mole called "Hussein" O'Bomber,is discovered by Jet Li's compatriot,Charlie Ng,who poses as a Chinese diplomat in Washington and discovers the plot while visiting the White House and also the fact that Michelle O'Bomber is actually a man called "Michael" by 'husband" Hussein!

Unfortunately,Charlie Ng is discovered to be a Chinese agent while being rogered ..or should we say "pinged",by Bunga Bunga Berlusconi a White House guest,where Hussein has organised a special orgy for his international bum chums including Max Mosley.Bum Ping plays a White House intern,in a secret relationship with the Pres. Hussein, part of a cabal of gays with links to the Vatican.Bum Ping is secretly controlled by the Chinese triads who have his boyfriend (guest role Elton John) in their custody .Charlie is then seized by the secret service but rescued by "Jet" Li in a daring escape to Sing after a deadly shoot-ing in which she and Jet Li end up bum-ping off over a dozen secret service agents. A desperate Hussein O'Bomber then turns to Bunga Bunga for help. He despatches his top agent,used to being "on top",Ruby Heartthrob,a Moroccan hooker,who has never been known to fail to bring matters to an "explosive" finale!

Unknown to the Chinese agents,the MH flight has another secret heading for Beijing ,a secret micro-chip that will revolutionise the world ,giving whoever possesses it unlimited power,but which the evil villain Rocker-fella the Jew,(played by himself) wants for himself. A team of yanqui IT experts who designed it board the same flight.So too are Charlie Ng,Ruby H,a CIA hit squad,triad hitmen ,the Mossad,on Rocker-fella's behalf,a RAW agent operating out of Sing,who hears of the plot from a triad queen called Wee Ping,a Vatican priest-cum-spy,Msgr. Ga-Ping,amongst other bit players from the intel agencies of the world.

I won't reveal what happens next and spoil your fun,I leave it to your speculation.Enjoy the film when released.......wait for the ping!
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But seriously. WTF are the Chinese doing with this ping business. Why don't the Chinese fly out an LRMP , staging out of Malaysia/Indonesia and Perth, drop a couple of sonobuoys and nail the position and say this where where the pings are coming from, so investigate !

They ALREADY have assets in the area. How about their ASW helicopters use their dunking sonars to listen to the ping. If the equipment needs to be modified , how much time is it going to take to modify it and use it, rather than that asinine thread and cup thing ?

Come on, China, show us what you got . Not showing anything because it is nude in ASW and hence will be exposed in front of the world ?How about sending some 5 of those 70 subs to Australia , and ask them to listen with their sonars and other equipment and solve this ping ping ? Instead of real serious stuff we have this garbage put out for the domestic Chinese village idiots.
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Oui! What about the Sing-Song-Sung class N-sub that China reported conducted a 2 month patrol in the IOR to help with "anti-piracy"! Does the People's Lepublic need a Dung Xiao Ping to find a Ping?
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One joke about Ping is funny. Ten, ...., still thinking,....
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Of course it doesn't match INMARSAT, etc.
Doesn't it? Are you sure? This was what I was saying about the INMARSAT calculations: they would be the same for any path that had the same radial and tangential components of speed, and distance. There is no direction information in the signal except "going away" or "coming towards" (sign of Doppler shift) and radial distance (time delay). So the path you plotted seems as plausible as the one going to Australia.

Now add the 5000-foot altitude, and I no longer believe the claims from assorted radar experts: they can't see below the horizon. I don't think India has permanent orbiting aircraft (or LTA platforms) with look-down radar off the coast, hain? Also, the 5000-foot altitude allows for greater range and endurance, so one has to recalculate the range.
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5th ping picked up.

Something or someone is pinging away at intervals. Still amazes me that they don't have a host of pingers listening. I saw a video of soldiers shoving these 4-foot long, 4-inch diameter white tubes out the back of a C-130. I thought it was to pepper the area with ping-locators and triangulate very accurately. So why is a given ping not picked up by several, I wonder.
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can the engines employed on the MH 370 777 be salvaged and used for new-generation turbofan drones ? Since nobody bought these engines straight off the manufacturer, these will remain a classified project with no record of existence. These drones can be later used against high-value targets like say Nuclear reactors in Iran and also provide deniability. A commercial airliner on a suicide mission will have no protection from radar but a radar-evading drone made of composite materials and stealth design will not have that limitation.

Also if that is the case, the debris won't be found since engines will be missing.
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AG,one has to relieve the ennui between each .....****!
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How many days/ hours left to play with this Pin Pong Ball? I thought the BB snores only for 30 days.
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Philip ji may be the ping pings are from Pakistanis playing ping pong in sing sing after hijacking some Boeing boeings?
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^^^Ulan Batori, yes sure it doesn't match the positions provided - the satellite would have been near overhead of the plane at some point (well, within 10-20°) if it headed on my route to Pakistan.
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DK120 Underwater Location Beacon:
Acoustic Output 160.5db ref 1 μ Pa @ 1m

Question I have is how can they detect pings from this device 20 kilometers apart?

PS: see http://resource.npl.co.uk/acoustics/tec ... bsorption/
It might be possible after all.....
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Matri,one hasn't been brave enough to venture into Talibanistan looking for the MH flight which a US general and a Russian report say may be there!
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Flight MH-370 goes missing

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Even considering the fact that Underwater Beacons can operate upto 20,000 ft of water & pings are detectable in low spatial ranges, what about other factors such as attenuation, water composition and ocean currents? Higher frequencies are more susceptible to the (medium's) viscosity attenuation right? Makes me think you got to be REALLY close to pick up the pings from Davy Jones locker. What the hell is going on down under actually with all these Pings and Pongs? :-?
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Flight MH-370 goes missing

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They need multiple ships or sonobuoys getting the same ping at same time and sophisticated bideshi tech to attempt to triangulate.
That has not happened. A single platform getting a ping with no ability to quickly spread a net of buoys to localize is imo useless. And this is something 5000m deep, not a submarine at just 400m.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Flight MH-370 goes missing

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Singha wrote:They need multiple ships or sonobuoys getting the same ping at same time and sophisticated bideshi tech to attempt to triangulate.
That has not happened. A single platform getting a ping with no ability to quickly spread a net of buoys to localize is imo useless. And this is something 5000m deep, not a submarine at just 400m.
Physics is physics. And this is not sophisticated tech. If you can hear it, it is tech enough. After that a sophomore with gray matter between the ears, a pencil, paper, ruler and protracter can get the answer (bearing and depth) of contact.

In fact, you really don't need multiple sensors. Consider a sonar mounted on a ship. How does it get distance and bearing and depth to target ? All you have to do is move the sensor in a track and again, pencil and paper and gray matter will give you answer. In fact, the towed ping detector will give you enough answer to get the answer you want by itself!
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Flight MH-370 goes missing

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With so much publicity about the splendid capability of the US's undersea naval tech,surely the debris,BB would've been picked up by now? DG is home to several US N-subs,apart from a huge bomber ,recce and ASW capability.The UK has touted that its new N-attack subs can detect a cruise ship in New York harbour while at base in the UK! So what gives? Is this a deliberate disinformation campaign meant to drag out the search so that the cover-up can be completed without any loose ends showing? The new Malaysian titbits,aircraft flew below 5000ft,etc.,air farce's "scrambled eggs" revelation a month on,is destroying the credibility of the Malaysian govt.,and increases the suspicion that they are engaged in a massive cover-up.

Even just one ASW aircraft equipped with enough sonobuoys can drop them in a patter which can triangulate the contact.One explanation for the contacts (I won't use the word ****!),is that there are some underwater objects of the stealthy kind secretly monitoring the search attempt,the use of sophisticated Oz/US eqpt.,and even playing a cat and mouse game with the Orions to see how they can fool them ,invaluable when in a mil. crisis with Oz. I am sure that the red sea-dragon has sent a couple of its monsters to the area to either search and find the evidence first (as the Malaysians seem to be a bunch of liars),or to pit their wits against the wizards of Oz. We know that an RN N-sub is in the area,plus USN N-subs must be lurking below the waves as well-unless they know the tooth of the matter and aren't wasting their time.Interestingly,the Oz kingdom has dropped the idea (for now?) of building 12 new subs because their Collins class has finally started producing acceptable performance.Who knows,perhaps the wizards of Oz and their Yanqui bum chums have put on this show to deliberately get the dragon to send its subs so that their signatures and capability can be assessed.
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I am sure that the red sea-dragon has sent a couple of its monsters to the area to either search and find the evidence first (as the Malaysians seem to be a bunch of liars),or to pit their wits against the wizards of Oz. We know that an RN N-sub is in the area,plus USN N-subs must be lurking below the waves as well-unless they know the tooth of the matter and aren't wasting their time
Purrfect. So, the PRC should do everything in it's power to get intel on the US, UK and Aus. All very legitimately indeed, because they are searching for wreckage. So let us see fly out an LRMP out of Hainan, staging via Indonesia/Malaysia/Perth and drop passive sonobuoys listening to the pings and the signatures and everything of the US and RN nukes and the Aussie assets.

Come on PRC, show us what you've got. 8)
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USA Military Base Diego Garcia in the middle of the Indian Ocean
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