Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 12 Apr 2014 01:09

I think Modi has handled the topic of his wife extremely well. He chose wisely to avoid mentioning it as long as the information was optional in the election forms. But once it was made mandatory, he gave the right answer. Traditionally, Indian ethos does not look kindly on mocking one's personal life. The only thing truly looked on negatively is being a person of horrible moral character. In that regard, Mulayam's rape quote will cost him, but Modi's entry of his marital status will not. Instead, it will cost his opponents the chance to build their case independently, instead of just speaking negatively of Modi, or worse, gossiping about his marital status. Modi should say nothing - absolutely nothing - more on the matter, even if asked.

Another thing that I found of interest is the INC bigwigs all stating after casting their vote that "There is no Modi Wave", including Priyanka and her laughably attired husband. This reminds me of a cartoon I saw, where a kamandu sits in a tank and orders a ceasefire by yelling ceaseFIRE!, ceaseFIRE!. These people don't understand that when they keep saying "there is no Modi Wave!" again and again, people end up hearing only the last two words...

disha · Post by **disha** » 12 Apr 2014 01:18

SRoy wrote:
kvraghav wrote:I really feel that not mentioning wife income is a tactic by modi to contest from varanasi onlee without making gujrathis angry or left out. Lets see if election comission rejects the application. If that happens, then varanasi will be fun..is there a backup candidate for modi in vadodara?
If the application in Vadodra is good enough to be rejected, won't it be similar in Varanasi also? The information in both the applications ought to be same and rule would apply equally.

On what basis EC can reject his application? Earlier the law did not say all boxes need to be filled. Later SC said that all boxes need to be filled.

What Modi is doing is following SC's directive. CongIs want to get the nomination rejected and are now saying that Modi lied in previous affadavits. Modi just did not provide information because it was not asked for. Now he did.

For fields like wife's income and PAN etc., he just mentioned "do not know". He is perfectly entitled to say that. Nothing can be gained from CongIs beating about bush here.

In fact asking for personal status on marriage should be - never married, married, widowed, separated & divorced.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 12 Apr 2014 01:26

disha wrote:
On what basis EC can reject his application? Earlier the law did not say all boxes need to be filled. Later SC said that all boxes need to be filled.

What Modi is doing is following SC's directive. CongIs want to get the nomination rejected and are now saying that Modi lied in previous affadavits. Modi just did not provide information because it was not asked for. Now he did.

For fields like wife's income and PAN etc., he just mentioned "do not know". He is perfectly entitled to say that. Nothing can be gained from CongIs beating about bush here.

In fact asking for personal status on marriage should be - never married, married, widowed, separated & divorced.

They can't reject it; I am sure Modi complied exactly with all regulations. The reason for the drama of the petitions to EC is that Sibal et al (being a lawyer I am sure he would know that he has no case) need to show Sonia Gandhi that they are doing something to fight that mean Modi person.

We have to remember that Sonia Gandhi is an uneducated and basically stupid woman, mainly driven by insecurity. The courtiers are just doing what they think pleases her.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 12 Apr 2014 01:37

prahaar wrote:What is the basis for requesting disqualification of Modi?

I WANT Modi to become vindictive with regards to Antonia Maino.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 12 Apr 2014 01:39

nachiket wrote:
IndraD wrote: pls explain for me
His body was charred beyond recognition in the chopper crash that killed him.

YSR was trying to set up Tirupathi as some sort of EJ hangout by allowing them to camp there and proselytize. There was widespread anger at this. Lord Balaji took care what his devotees could not.
WARNING: GRUESOME PICS.
http://www.meetwiki.org/2009/09/ysr-dea ... ekhar.html

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 12 Apr 2014 01:43

Boss from what I here, Modi will not be vindictive, he will just follow the law, favor to none, enmity against none. That is Rajdharma!!

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 12 Apr 2014 01:47

Narendra Modi’s non-secret vs Rahul Gandhi’s mysteries
http://www.niticentral.com/2014/04/11/n ... te]However, having plastered as much muck as possible on the BJP’s numero uno, Rahul Gandhi owes an explanation as to why the ‘big announcement’ that the nation was expecting from the winter of 2003, when he took a young woman to Kerala and Lakshadweep for a holiday with his family, never materialised. This was highly unorthodox to say the least.

Rahul Gandhi’s lengthy relationship with Veronique, a girl he met in London in 1998, has given rise to intense speculation about his marital status, given that the lady was a regular visitor to India for many years, and was also alleged to be the reason behind the Gandhi scion’s frequent trips to London. They have often been spotted, even photographed, watching cricket matches abroad. She holidayed with him in the Andamans in the winter of 1999.

Then, during the 2004 election campaign, Rahul Gandhi told journalists, “My girlfriend’s name is Veronique, not Juanita… she is Spanish and not Venezuelan or Colombian. She is an architect, not a waitress, though I wouldn’t have had a problem with that. She is also my best friend.” Soon after the elections, he told journalists that the family was of Spanish origin and had been living in Venezuela for a long time, which suggests that they may have Venezuelan citizenship, though he did not elaborate. Amazingly, not much has been heard of Veronique since then, though for a while she was spotted in India occasionally.

Given the Congress vice president’s long relationship with an unmarried South American girl, questions are surely in order. Since 2012, Rahul Gandhi has been seen in the company of Noella, an Afghan princess and jewellery designer, whose mother is also an Italian. She is also the granddaughter of former Afghanistan king, late Mohammad Zahir Shah. BJP leader Subramanian Swamy has publicly stated that he had seen the couple together in France over a year ago.[/quote]

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 12 Apr 2014 01:50

fanne wrote:Boss from what I here, Modi will not be vindictive, he will just follow the law, favor to none, enmity against none. That is Rajdharma!!

Exactly! It is up to nationalist Indians to take some of the cases to the end of the law and get justice.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 12 Apr 2014 01:50

Finishing off enemies of the state is also rajdharma. As the ruler/protector/head of state he is allowed to use all means including treachery to protect the state as per dharma.

Kanchan Gupta ‏@KanchanGupta 14m

A wife-beating journo was asked to vacate flat as neighbours kids would get traumatised. He now has the temerity to cast aspersions on Modi!

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 12 Apr 2014 02:07

satya · Post by **satya** » 12 Apr 2014 02:07

Yeh Rahul Gandhi ki girl friend kab se bani ! Humne to boyfriend sune the !

negi · Post by **negi** » 12 Apr 2014 02:09

^ Wo bhi leti hogi

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 12 Apr 2014 02:13

KJoishy wrote:YSR was trying to set up Tirupathi as some sort of EJ hangout by allowing them to camp there and proselytize. There was widespread anger at this. Lord Balaji took care what his devotees could not.
WARNING: GRUESOME PICS.
http://www.meetwiki.org/2009/09/ysr-dea ... ekhar.html

KARMA

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 12 Apr 2014 02:15

saar not right .. link was sufficient.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 12 Apr 2014 02:16

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IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 12 Apr 2014 02:41

pappu with girlfriend, also

https://twitter.com/vagabondoc/status/4 ... 84/photo/1
rangeen mizaz nehru

BJP has warned congi of dire consequences if they drag matter on J ben, saying they will come with evidence on media about multiple illicit relations of Nehru, Indira & Rajeev.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 12 Apr 2014 03:25

^he divorced her laaaang time back when he was in lundonistan. btw, look at the same smug face then.. nothing pretty much changed his externalized internal look&feel.

SagarAg · Post by **SagarAg** » 12 Apr 2014 03:28

Modis-marital-status-isnt-our-business-or-rahuls-or-sibals by Jaggi

#Modi3D

Today's rally:
Dhamtari, Chhattisgarh

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 12 Apr 2014 03:40

IndraD wrote:what are chances this book has blessings of MMS, a silent revenge?

Some one tweeted MMS saw the draft and had no problems.

Rezaul Hasan Laskar @Rezhasan · 4h

Buzz is the sardar was shown advance copy of a certain book and had no problems with it.

As I suspected.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 12 Apr 2014 03:46

Agnimitra wrote:This was supposedly tweeted by Rajiv Malhotra:

@RajivMessage Best course for Modi now is to escape from the RSS fetters and become the Congress President by capturing the party!

True? If so, what is the thinking behind it?

Rajiv Malhotra always tried to keep away from Hindutva. My CT is that he is an agent

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 12 Apr 2014 03:47

I bought the book and read a few pages so far. The funny thing is that in the foreword, Baru states: "Finally, I have not shared the contents of this book with Dr.Singh prior to its publication. Indeed, he may not approve of many of my observations in these pages and may even disapprove of my decision to write this book. That places on me even greater responsibility to ensure that this book is an honest account of my time with the PM, offering my view of what I saw and believed had happened."

Nice cover for MMS to claim he doesn't approve of it.

SagarAg · Post by **SagarAg** » 12 Apr 2014 03:52

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 12 Apr 2014 03:55

KJoishy wrote:What about his family, weren't they there?

When I heard this (on BRF) I was angry and asked how can these people do this to one man who has done so much for India, one close family member (of PV saab) said "this is the cost of being in the field (of public service). One has to bear these and far worse indignities. In any case the history will judge him very kindly." which prediction is coming true. I would say let matters lie. IMHO, dredging up the muck will only hurt the sentiments and open old wounds.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 12 Apr 2014 03:58

SwamyG wrote:
Agnimitra wrote:This was supposedly tweeted by Rajiv Malhotra:

@RajivMessage Best course for Modi now is to escape from the RSS fetters and become the Congress President by capturing the party!

True? If so, what is the thinking behind it?
Rajiv Malhotra always tried to keep away from Hindutva. My CT is that he is an agent

Agent of? And why do you think so?

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 12 Apr 2014 03:58

SwamyG wrote:
Agnimitra wrote:This was supposedly tweeted by Rajiv Malhotra:

@RajivMessage Best course for Modi now is to escape from the RSS fetters and become the Congress President by capturing the party!

True? If so, what is the thinking behind it?
Rajiv Malhotra always tried to keep away from Hindutva. My CT is that he is an agent

I am coming around to this realisation too. Something does not feel right.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 12 Apr 2014 04:08

Maybe it is something about BRF that has changed me.

Like I do not like Swamy but still think he is useful, Rajiv Malhotra is quite useful but his personality or something about his attitude throws people off.

See aye Yae ? Congress? His ego?

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 12 Apr 2014 04:09

SwamyG wrote:
Agnimitra wrote:This was supposedly tweeted by Rajiv Malhotra:

@RajivMessage Best course for Modi now is to escape from the RSS fetters and become the Congress President by capturing the party!

True? If so, what is the thinking behind it?
Rajiv Malhotra always tried to keep away from Hindutva. My CT is that he is an agent

OK before we continue, need to verify if this was really tweeted by Shri Rajeev Malhotra. I saw it on someone's blog, but am not able to see it on his timeline right now. In fact, his recent tweets seem opposed to anyone suggesting such things. Can someone check with Rajeev ji?

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 12 Apr 2014 04:10

Oh I don't have any intention to continue. This is NaMo dhaaga.

Congress is distracting people. Modi should stay on the high road talking development. Hopefully MSM moves on to other matters.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 12 Apr 2014 04:14

SwamyG garu.. Nice IED

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 12 Apr 2014 04:18

Modi's reply to the skull cap question was profound and will make all jingoes and Internet Hindus happy.
Rama garu, anee credit BRFkae.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 12 Apr 2014 04:22

SwamyG, Ego.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 12 Apr 2014 04:23

SwamyG wrote:Modi's reply to the skull cap question was profound and will make all jingoes and Internet Hindus happy.
Rama garu, anee credit BRFkae.

I am waiting every second for that Aap Ki Adalat show

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 12 Apr 2014 04:29

OK, confirmed - that was NOT tweeted by Rajiv Malhotra. Pls ignore.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 12 Apr 2014 04:35

ramana wrote:SwamyG, Ego.

ab ki baar
modi sarkar!

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 12 Apr 2014 04:41

vivek.rao wrote:
SwamyG wrote:Modi's reply to the skull cap question was profound and will make all jingoes and Internet Hindus happy.
Rama garu, anee credit BRFkae.
I am waiting every second for that Aap Ki Adalat show

Times Now had some excerpts of it. His other reply about massive funding in crores had his characteristic wit and ridicule.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 12 Apr 2014 04:50

ramana wrote:SwamyG, Ego.

ramana garu: The man had done some good work. Should get credit too. Ego is part and parcel a strong conviction in the solution to a problem and subsequent vindication of the methodology. But of course he does not have the needed resources to fight the forces inimical to integrity of Bharath. The only way to motivate people is to look larger than life. "telugu veera lEvara deeksha bUni sAgara" (Oh brave of the telugu, wake up and make a promise to march forth) call has to be given to the Indian Americans too. Here is some more from that song from the movie "Alluri Seeta Rama Raju".

yevadu vaadu yechati vaadu
yevadu vaadu yechati vaadu
itu vachina thellavaadu
itu vachina thellavaadu
kanda balam gunde balam kabalinchina dundageedu
kabalinchina dundageedu
maana dhanam prana dhanam dochukunna dongavaadu

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 12 Apr 2014 05:22

India Cause ‏@indiacause 43m
Congress can sling mud, but lotus flourishes in mud: Modi

member_26255 · Post by **member_26255** » 12 Apr 2014 08:00

Amit Shah's interview is up on Zeenews.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 12 Apr 2014 08:06

my rudimentary hindi is not good enough..

is there a transcript or can somebody give highlights/important parts in english? thanks.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 12 Apr 2014 08:11

the despicableme (karunanidhi) opens his mouth and says "if modi has hidden that he has a wife..who knows what else he has hidden"

ooooo...very scary...

this f.ker is one to talk..with 3 known wives (one dead) and several "wives" in every major city for his comfort whenever he visits the city.

nauseating to hear this guy talk about wives. or even morals.