Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

durvasa · Post by **durvasa** » 15 Apr 2014 12:30

OT: Did others have problems accessing 5forty3. I made payment last Friday but still dont have access. No way of reaching admin on their site

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 15 Apr 2014 12:31

Is it possible for NDTV to be taken over by Hindu nationalists?Basically,Peeroy,burkha,seeni jain,and other assorted pimps are asked to fly a kite in UK and 'we' just take it over.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 15 Apr 2014 12:32

merlin wrote:Karnataka looks set to go the Congi way with them getting more than the BJP. Karnataka always manages to get on the wrong side of the party ruling the center and so it will be this time also.

If we get a 15 (Cong), 12 (BJP) 1 (JD(S)) result, I will be happy with the BJP performance in Karnataka. Theoretically speaking, BJP is in the contest in about 18-20, constituencies, but it would be folly to expect more than 12 of them to click. One result I am absolutely hoping for is Bangalore South for BJP. While I am no great fan of Anant Kumar, there is no greater corrupt, shameless, patronising, anti-Kannada scumbag than Nandan Nilekani.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 15 Apr 2014 12:34

durvasa wrote:OT: Did others have problems accessing 5forty3. I made payment last Friday but still dont have access. No way of reaching admin on their site

Dr.Patil asked those who registered domestically and have access issues to email [email protected]

merlin · Post by **merlin** » 15 Apr 2014 12:48

nageshks wrote:
merlin wrote:Karnataka looks set to go the Congi way with them getting more than the BJP. Karnataka always manages to get on the wrong side of the party ruling the center and so it will be this time also.
If we get a 15 (Cong), 12 (BJP) 1 (JD(S)) result, I will be happy with the BJP performance in Karnataka. Theoretically speaking, BJP is in the contest in about 18-20, constituencies, but it would be folly to expect more than 12 of them to click. One result I am absolutely hoping for is Bangalore South for BJP. While I am no great fan of Anant Kumar, there is no greater corrupt, shameless, patronising, anti-Kannada scumbag than Nandan Nilekani.

Too many AAPtards here sir. Lots of support to Nikenaki from them surprisingly. Anant Kumar will have it tough. Anyway the Digas are no great fan of Modi so that factor is not that important here. Karnataka will still send high double digit MPs to the Toffee model guy.

BJP might just get below double digits. Will know more on the 17th.

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 15 Apr 2014 12:54

svenkat wrote:Is it possible for NDTV to be taken over by Hindu nationalists?Basically,Peeroy,burkha,seeni jain,and other assorted pimps are asked to fly a kite in UK and 'we' just take it over.

I dont see how NDTV will survive.
PC said to have received bribes to the tune of Rs.5000 Cr. These were routed through subsidaries in UK, Holland, Mauritius back to Indian subsidaries and the foreign ones were closed down.
See here:http://capitalmind.in/2014/01/ndtv-accu ... d-scandal/

Jethmalani, Gurumurthy all have written on this.
Unleashing FERA, Tax laws on NDTV should it.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 15 Apr 2014 13:36

If we accept the need for a decent national English channel,NDTV can be used for that.

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 15 Apr 2014 13:39

svenkat wrote:If we accept the need for a decent national English channel,NDTV can be used for that.

Can the CNN-IBN be a better candidate? Network 18 holds that channel, RS SG are just mulazims unlike NDTV. This will curtail the beach-head CNN has acquired in Indian news business.

vic · Post by **vic** » 15 Apr 2014 13:52

Singha wrote:if anyone is still watching ndtv, are they in damage control mode now with barkha toning down her activities and visibility and prannoy roy now more coming to the fore as the reasonable and fair n balanced coverage person?
that tipping point might come soon around middle of next week maybe.

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considering the BJPs track record in KA, I would consider 50:50 to be a bonus. it will need some time and stability for BJP to repair its damaged reputation here. fortunately the congi regime is not that great in any respect, so the opportunity is there always.

NDTV is trying to pump up Arun Jaitely while abusing Modi. Jaitely may have had a hand in NDTV campaign against Modi.

VikramS · Post by **VikramS** » 15 Apr 2014 14:01

Suraj wrote:
durvasa wrote:OT: Did others have problems accessing 5forty3. I made payment last Friday but still dont have access. No way of reaching admin on their site
Dr.Patil asked those who registered domestically and have access issues to email [email protected]

Suraj, anything for international subscribers?

merlin · Post by **merlin** » 15 Apr 2014 14:09

Neela wrote:
svenkat wrote:Is it possible for NDTV to be taken over by Hindu nationalists?Basically,Peeroy,burkha,seeni jain,and other assorted pimps are asked to fly a kite in UK and 'we' just take it over.
I dont see how NDTV will survive.
PC said to have received bribes to the tune of Rs.5000 Cr. These were routed through subsidaries in UK, Holland, Mauritius back to Indian subsidaries and the foreign ones were closed down.
See here:http://capitalmind.in/2014/01/ndtv-accu ... d-scandal/

Jethmalani, Gurumurthy all have written on this.
Unleashing FERA, Tax laws on NDTV should it.

NDTV will survive and thrive. Arun Jaitely will ensure that.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Apr 2014 14:17

How 2014 poll is making BJP the new pivot of Indian politics

http://www.firstpost.com/politics/how-2 ... uote]First, the NDTV opinion poll establishes the BJP as the central pivot around which Indian politics will revolve in the medium term. We can’t say if this will endure – for that, Modi and BJP have to deliver - but till recently it was the Congress that occupied this pole position. Now the BJP does. It was evident in this election when all parties chose to attack Modi. When one party or one individual becomes the focus of everybody’s fears, it indicates a shift in the polity’s pivot.

This is evident not only from the NDA’s seat count (NDA 275, of which BJP 226), but vote share. Even in the past, the BJP has obtained more seats than the Congress (1998, 1999) but this is the first time the BJP/NDA is surpassing the Congress/UPA in vote share.

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Second, this poll also shows the spread of the BJP nationally. Till 2009, the BJP was a northern and western India party, with a pocket of influence in Karnataka. This time, thanks to making the right alliances, and also because of the Modi persona, the BJP is a factor both south of the Vindhyas and in the East. In Assam it is already a force, and so is it in Odisha. In Andhra Pradesh and Tamil Nadu, it is a viable alliance partner. It is only in the former Left bastions of Kerala and West Bengal that the BJP is stuck as a loner.

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Third, the BJP is now presented with the opportunity of expanding its social and community base if it comes to power in the centre. While the media tends to dismiss it as incapable of attracting the minorities or lower castes to its side, the fact is in all the western states and in Goa, it has transcended its upper caste Hindutva image. Today, even the minorities vote for it in some measure. In Gujarat, polarisation started reducing after the 2002 and 2007 elections. In 2012, it was the Muslim vote that made all the difference between a marginal victory and a comfortable one for Modi. Modi’s opponents in Gujarat were all former Hindutva stalwarts – and the Muslim vote enabled him to defeat them in the 2012 assembly elections.

While it is true that 2014 is going to be an anti-Modi vote for the minorities, the next election will give both Modi and the minorities to rethink their equations.

We can’t say anything with certainty right now, but I suspect that 2014 will mark a fundamental shift in the nation’s politics.[/quote]

niran · Post by **niran** » 15 Apr 2014 14:21

merlin wrote:

NDTV will survive and thrive. Arun Jaitely will ensure that.

the FEMA ED etc will be unleashed with a directive of court judgment in 12
months (NaMo hisself decreeded yesterday in his 3D address)
imagine you apply for a job and before HR calls you get someone from ED
or you work at ndtv answering those pesky ED wallas gonna be a million times
painful than pissing needles they will die their natural deaths.

Shaktimaan · Post by **Shaktimaan** » 15 Apr 2014 14:25

Narendra Modi: Britain can't simply shrug off this Hindu extremist : by Priyamvada Gopal (M.A from JNU)

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... mism-india

More and more of these vitriolic anti-Modi articles are appearing in western media. Surely a great sign for us jingoes?

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 15 Apr 2014 14:29

niran wrote:
fanne wrote:So in Bihar BJP loses Aurnagabd and Sasaram, and win the other 2. In next phase tough seat for BJP are - Patliputra, Kishenganj and few others.
says who? Saar.
Sasaram gonna be close win margin by less than 10,000 votes and BJP has an edge.

Is there a Jatav-Paswan tussle going on in Sasaram?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Apr 2014 14:29

How NDA’s Dalit coup can hurt UPA in Maharashtra

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... thstanding the several factions among Dalit communities, the RPI has enough support to be potentially able to determine the outcome for up to 18 of the state’s 48 Lok Sabha seats. And if it does that, most of these will be at the cost of the Congress, with which the loyalties of most Dalit parties have been a tradition of six decades. In the outgoing Lok Sabha, the Congress-NCP holds 12 of these 18 seats.

“New-generation Dalits no longer want to remain trapped in ideological debates, which were the most convenient tool that the Congress and the NCP used to exploit to corner the Dalit voters for their own interests,” says Dalit writer Arjun Dangle. “Until the late 1990s, Dalits were caught in this secular-versus-communal debate. But the BJP-Shiv Sena is no longer perceived as untouchable.”

Dalits constitute 10.5 per cent of Maharashtra’s population, but in these 18 constituencies — all eight in Marathwada, all six in Mumbai, and two each in western Maharashtra and Vidarbha —they account for an average of 16 per cent of the vote, Dangle says. A couple of constituencies in northern Maharashtra too have pockets of sizeable Dalit influence.

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A failure to strike an alliance with Prakash Ambedkar, grandson of B R Ambedkar, is another setback to the Congress-NCP, though it has lower stakes in the four seats where his Bharip Bahujan Mahasangh has an influence. It is the BJP-Shiv Sena that holds Akola, Buldhana, Amravati and Yavatmal-Washim in Vidarbha, where polling took place on April 10.

“Today, who is responsible for the growing atrocities against Dalits in Maharashtra? Whether it is the misuse of police force or the denial of caste certificates to Dalits, the government is responsible. How can you expect Dalits to remain loyal to the Congress-NCP?” Ambedkar says.

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Not everyone believes the drift from the Congress is total. Ambedkar scholar Tusshar Jagtap says, “The Dalits are facing a leadership crisis in the state. There is no one who can unite them. It is unlikely that any single alliance can claim control on the Dalits. So Dalits completely drifting away from Congress is unlikely.” He added that unlike in 2009, the BSP is not a factor in Vidarbha this time.[/quote]

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Apr 2014 14:30

Niti Central ‏@NitiCentral 31m

Jolt to Nitish, Kisanganj nominee withdraws candidature http://www.niticentral.com/2014/04/15/j ... 11879.html …

In a serious blow to Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar, JDU candidate from Kisanganj on Tuesday withdrew in favour of Congress nominee in the Lok Sabha poll.

“I have decided to withdraw myself from election in favour of sitting Congress candidate to check split of minority votes,” JDU candidate Akhtarul Iman said.

Congress candidate Maulana Asrarul Haque is seeking re-election from the minority dominated Kisanganj Lok Sabha seat.

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With the withdrawal of Iman, Kisanganj will witness a direct contest between Asrarul Haque (Congress) and DK Jaiswal (BJP). The seat will go to voting on April 24.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Apr 2014 14:33

Niti Central ‏@NitiCentral 37m

Third Front will form stable Government with Congress's support: Akhilesh http://www.niticentral.com/2014/04/15/t ... 11873.html …

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 15 Apr 2014 14:39

pankajs wrote:
Niti Central ‏@NitiCentral 37m

Third Front will form stable Government with Congress's support: Akhilesh http://www.niticentral.com/2014/04/15/t ... 11873.html …

Some people should not open their mouth, lest all doubt regarding their intelligence be removed. The baba has just given a loaded gun to modi. That a vote for 3rd front is a vote for congress. Amazing.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 15 Apr 2014 14:43

Posted by pankajs

Niti Central ‏@NitiCentral 31m

Jolt to Nitish, Kisanganj nominee withdraws candidature http://www.niticentral.com/2014/04/15/j ... 11879.html …

In a serious blow to Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar, JDU candidate from Kisanganj on Tuesday withdrew in favour of Congress nominee in the Lok Sabha poll.

“I have decided to withdraw myself from election in favour of sitting Congress candidate to check split of minority votes,” JDU candidate Akhtarul Iman said.

Congress candidate Maulana Asrarul Haque is seeking re-election from the minority dominated Kisanganj Lok Sabha seat.

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With the withdrawal of Iman, Kisanganj will witness a direct contest between Asrarul Haque (Congress) and DK Jaiswal (BJP). The seat will go to voting on April 24.

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I would say that this seat now belongs to Congress. More than that, if the JD(U) Muslim candidate is bowing out to a Congress Muslim candidate, it would send a message that Muslims are going with RJD-Congress combo rather than JD-U.

I was hoping that with the split in Muslim votes, BJP could win this PC, and also deny Congress any seat in Bihar!

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Apr 2014 14:53

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Narendra Modiji exclusive interview in TV9 today 15 April 2014 at 9:15 pm. Kindly watch. Inform one and all. @kiranks @tajinderbagga pls RT

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 15 Apr 2014 15:27

New Indian Express ‏@NewIndianXpress 14m

#Congress' #Basti Candidate Refuses to Contest- http://tnie.in/1eJA0y5 #LSpolls

Another Sickular ploy at vote consolidation??

Avinash Rav · Post by **Avinash Rav** » 15 Apr 2014 15:31

nageshks wrote:
merlin wrote: One result I am absolutely hoping for is Bangalore South for BJP. While I am no great fan of Anant Kumar, there is no greater corrupt, shameless, patronising, anti-Kannada scumbag than Nandan Nilekani.

I was talking to my parents in Bangalore yesterday and they are planning to vote for Nandan Nilekani. I tried to convince my parents about the secular appeasement traits of Nelekani and instead vote for BJP (indirectly Modi). My father is asking for proof.

Can anyone please post links/photos which prove the appeasement politics of Nilekani ? Any info which puts Nilekani in bad light will do.

merlin · Post by **merlin** » 15 Apr 2014 15:37

Won't a simple vote for Nilekani is a vote for corruption and scams do?

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 15 Apr 2014 15:39

Just tell them, any vote for congress is one vote less for modi. We need modi as the pm for the next 10 years. Also highlight the recent suprieme court judgement against aadhar. That ought to be enough.

Avinash Rav · Post by **Avinash Rav** » 15 Apr 2014 15:40

merlin wrote:Won't a simple vote for Nilekani is a vote for corruption and scams do?

How do I back that statement ?

AbhiJ · Post by **AbhiJ** » 15 Apr 2014 15:41

Avinash Rav wrote:I was talking to my parents in Bangalore yesterday and they are planning to vote for Nandan Nilekani. I tried to convince my parents about the secular appeasement traits of Nelekani and instead vote for BJP (indirectly Modi). My father is asking for proof.

Can anyone please post links/photos which prove the appeasement politics of Nilekani ? Any info which puts Nilekani in bad light will do.

Do some psy-ops.

http://www.niticentral.com/2014/03/14/w ... 99930.html

Avinash Rav · Post by **Avinash Rav** » 15 Apr 2014 15:44

AbhiJ wrote:
Avinash Rav wrote:I was talking to my parents in Bangalore yesterday and they are planning to vote for Nandan Nilekani. I tried to convince my parents about the secular appeasement traits of Nelekani and instead vote for BJP (indirectly Modi). My father is asking for proof.

Can anyone please post links/photos which prove the appeasement politics of Nilekani ? Any info which puts Nilekani in bad light will do.
Do some psy-ops.

http://www.niticentral.com/2014/03/14/w ... 99930.html

Thanks a lot. This link will do the job. Hopefully !

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 15 Apr 2014 15:47

Avinash Rav wrote:I was talking to my parents in Bangalore yesterday and they are planning to vote for Nandan Nilekani. I tried to convince my parents about the secular appeasement traits of Nelekani and instead vote for BJP (indirectly Modi). My father is asking for proof.

Can anyone please post links/photos which prove the appeasement politics of Nilekani ? Any info which puts Nilekani in bad light will do.

Jagan had a good article yesterday that attacks the core idea that in national elections one should vote for a good local candidate who will champion that constituency: Not just Nilekani - Why are wannabe MPs running as local candidates?

His argument, which is correct, is that voting for national elections should purely be on national issues and party stance. The fact of the matter is that ONLY Modi is running on a development plank - Congress and AAP do NOT see development as topmost priority. Congress is fighting on a 'secularism' plan (which is actually disguised communalism) - and we have its track record of destroying Indian growth and development last several years.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 15 Apr 2014 15:51

India today's ticker, congoons attack swamis house in delhi over his comments on Priyanka V

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 15 Apr 2014 16:00

The way Ms & their agents are consolidating & trying to keep the M vote in one single bloc, any Hindu who doesn't vote for Modi is an ostrich with his head completely under the sand. If Ms win this battle, Islamists would have won the war for India. In a decade, the same Hindus who have a problem with 'communal' BJP/RSS will be fighting for the honor of their women on the streets. The defeat of Modi will effectively mean no pro-Hindu leader can ever sit on Dilli throne & the next ask from Islamists would be Sharia, in a decade or two once they out breed us further.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 15 Apr 2014 16:17

Avinash Rav wrote:
nageshks wrote:[quote="merlin One result I am absolutely hoping for is Bangalore South for BJP. While I am no great fan of Anant Kumar, there is no greater corrupt, shameless, patronising, anti-Kannada scumbag than Nandan Nilekani./quote/quote]

I was talking to my parents in Bangalore yesterday and they are planning to vote for Nandan Nilekani. I tried to convince my parents about the secular appeasement traits of Nelekani and instead vote for BJP (indirectly Modi). My father is asking for proof.

Can anyone please post links/photos which prove the appeasement politics of Nilekani ? Any info which puts Nilekani in bad light will do.

[/quote]

UDI scam and speeches of Reservation of Jobs in private sector should do.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 15 Apr 2014 16:25

Cong withdrawing candidates in UP or not putting up a serious fight is an effort to consolidate muslim vote behind bsp or sp. But this will also backfire on them as their tini mini UC vote will go to bjp

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 15 Apr 2014 16:29

Kishanganj (Bihar) candidate Akhtar-ul-Iman of JDU(S) refuses to contest withdraws in support of congis. both are desperate.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/jdu-kishanga ... 37-64.html

SaraLax · Post by **SaraLax** » 15 Apr 2014 16:36

Avinash Rav wrote:
merlin wrote: One result I am absolutely hoping for is Bangalore South for BJP. While I am no great fan of Anant Kumar, there is no greater corrupt, shameless, patronising, anti-Kannada scumbag than Nandan Nilekani.
I was talking to my parents in Bangalore yesterday and they are planning to vote for Nandan Nilekani. I tried to convince my parents about the secular appeasement traits of Nelekani and instead vote for BJP (indirectly Modi). My father is asking for proof.

Can anyone please post links/photos which prove the appeasement politics of Nilekani ? Any info which puts Nilekani in bad light will do.

Appeasement Photos
http://www.niticentral.com/2014/03/03/n ... 95445.html (NN wearing a skull cap along with few more people)
http://www.linkedin.com/today/post/arti ... ndia-wants (NN wearing a FEZ cap)

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 15 Apr 2014 16:38

on current trends will the congis on their own get to 60?

I would prefer they be restricted with line n length bowling to around 45 max but realize thats a very hard task given KA itself might give them 10 seats and assam 5 seats...plus few more in big states like MH, UP, punjab, haryana....

imo the Fez cap might be a honour cap like the "mysore peta" so if true, no objections there. the skullcap on other hand is not worn for functions or honour ceremonies, just for worship by all three abrahamic faiths so thats appeasement imho. did he join them in Namaz?

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 15 Apr 2014 16:50

Avinash Rav, why don't you ask them to explain why would they want to vote cong? Is there any single good reason to vote for them? If you have been long enough on this thread then you would know how to counter their argument in favor of cong. Not that there are so many of them either.

merlin · Post by **merlin** » 15 Apr 2014 17:04

Congress will get seats from Kerala, Karnataka and MH (double digits), Assam, HP, J&K, UP, Telangana, Odisha, maybe WB and NE. I don't see them below 50.

merlin · Post by **merlin** » 15 Apr 2014 17:06

Avinash Rav wrote:
merlin wrote:Won't a simple vote for Nilekani is a vote for corruption and scams do?
How do I back that statement ?

Nilekani had status of union minister but still he didn't challenge any Congress scams. If he wins, that's one more seat to the corrupt Congress.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 15 Apr 2014 17:38

merlin wrote:Congress will get seats from Kerala, Karnataka and MH (double digits), Assam, HP, J&K, UP, Telangana, Odisha, maybe WB and NE. I don't see them below 50.

Cong will not get below 100, save this post. I see 105 seats for them easily