Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 18 Apr 2014 19:41

Will MMS shave his head when in Tirupati? To show his respect? No. GOI is communal

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 18 Apr 2014 20:01

It looks like damaad will be the 1st casualty. The WSJ info may have been leaked by the dynasty itself. Piyakad Gandi may be ready to move on and discard him. She can then use a saree like Indira to fool the gullible public in the future.

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 18 Apr 2014 20:10

On a lighter note, here is a small guest piece I wrote in MyFakingNews making fun of NCP candidate Praful Patel (for using Modi's photo while campaigning)

Election Commission to rename April 1 as “A Praful’s Day”

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 18 Apr 2014 20:26

NaMo has hit a master stroke by extending the hand of cooperation to Bengal. Mamata is in extremely tight spot. Already there is a buzz in the state. The more she tries to reject NaMo, the more NaMo becomes popular. But if She tries to accommodate NaMo's gestures then it makes the minorities upset. NaMo looks like a giant statesman, and Mamata looks like a three year old girl throwing erratic tantrums.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 18 Apr 2014 20:32

Called "Hissy Fit".
Tweet that if you want.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 18 Apr 2014 20:34

Karan M wrote:singha what about role of deep cover spetznaz who hopefully come out of the woodwork now.

Surely, whats a nice crisp morning without such elements running around with suitcase nukes near major nato bases

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 18 Apr 2014 20:40

India one community, prefer to lose than get votes on religion: Modi

He said that there was no question of ever having any scheme to reach out to only the Muslim community and was a "strong opponent" to the idea.

Modi said that Congress president Sonia Gandhi's meeting with the Shahi Imam of the Jama Masjid wasn't wrong, but doing it to influence the community's votes was in violation of the Election Commission's model code of conduct. "I would want Sonia Gandhi meet all communities. It is part of her responsibilities.

But what message are you trying to give? That is worrying," he said. Modi also took the opportunity to take a pot-shot at Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and said that after reading Singh's former communication advisor's book he felt that the PM was under pressure from just one family.

Modi, a former member of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, defended the organisation and said that it had become 'fashion' to criticise the right wing group whenever the Congress was in dire straits.

"It has become a fashion in our country that whenever the Congress is going through a bad phase, people emerge to abuse the RSS. It is a cultural organisation and many vested interest groups are attempting to hurt it with their statements," he said.

"It is the biggest non-governmental organisation. Its capabilities should be admired and used for the benefit of the people". Modi also said he knew many people in the RSS who were working for the underprivileged and added that while he had been associated with the organisation in his youth it had never encouraged them to work in a communal fashion.

I have a great idea. What if temples are removed from Govt. control and linked with NGOs like RSS to serve underprivileged.

Libtards would die. Churches spend all the money for charity work of their choice. Why can't temples?

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 18 Apr 2014 20:51

temples should never be under gov control. it should be against the laws.
but there should be common regulations for all religious instituions on open financial books - unkil khaan framework is solid here to study.

member_28352 · Post by **member_28352** » 18 Apr 2014 20:56

You can't give control of temples to an organization like RSS and refuse control of church of jude to north american baptist association of India. What should however be done is that temples should be given to people based on historical factors. For example Jagannath temple in Puri should be under control of Puri people, Orissa people and Bengal people in some proportion and miniscule number of other Indians based on number of people who visit temple and historical reasons, such as grant obtained from kings of Maharashtra say. Ditto for churches and mosques. Now RSS people being also part of other social circles may be part of management of some temple and would definitely influence and provide a Hindutva touch to running of the organization. However RSS by itself would not be tasked with running temples.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 18 Apr 2014 20:59

Vivek.rao: slowly slowly. That's reforms work. His priorities are very right. He shoul be pm for at most two terms and then hand over the reigns to somebody elected through something akin to primaries and become an elder statesman like Clinton or carter or Kissinger please note I am not saying that these are role models but just most famous examples who push different US povs which ultimately benefit US over everybody else.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 18 Apr 2014 21:04

Why not allow nay even force a multi religious BOT for each every place of worship? Representatives from other religions should not have voting rights in the BOT but should be invited by law to all meetings. Transparency breeds trust. Secrecy breeds conspiracies.

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 18 Apr 2014 21:16

One wish in my (long) list is something I heard on BR a couple of years back:-

Pliss to replace the tall soldiers at Wagah gate killing their knees with a fat pan-chewing SDRE pandu... pliss.... The ceremony should end with a pan spit at the border every time. I would pay money to watch that.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 18 Apr 2014 21:18

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 18 Apr 2014 21:30

CAG boss: If RSS builds their own temples, who can stop it? only the regulations.
temples should be organized and own by local people and their group representation and priest setup. it should be down right local, with heavy regulations around it.

btw, reguations should be perfectly fine with all religious methods - from shaolin or kalari payat or silambu to some madrassa training as chosen by religious sect. regulation should ensure the teachings have common core principles that include math and science [enough to prevent insanity onlee].

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 18 Apr 2014 22:11

Vinod Sharma ‏@vinod_sharma 31m

How does he manage so much in a day, so well? RT @tamilnadubjp: Don't miss Shri. @narendramodi Ji interview in Thanthi TV tomorrow night 9pm

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 18 Apr 2014 22:14

LokeshC wrote:One wish in my (long) list is something I heard on BR a couple of years back:-

Pliss to replace the tall soldiers at Wagah gate killing their knees with a fat pan-chewing SDRE pandu... pliss.... The ceremony should end with a pan spit at the border every time. I would pay money to watch that.

+ million

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 18 Apr 2014 22:18

Singha wrote:in rest of elections, Namo needs to attack like Erwin Rommel and Ewald Von Kliest moving across the Low Countries, breaching the albert canal, eben emael and maginot line to make a beeline for Paree.

dislocate all the enemy plans by combination of mass, speed and co-ordination of movement. use Ju87 Stukas like combative spokesmen to harass enemy lines.

reduce the regime to a valiant evacuation of regime leaders by foreign govt plane from palam vvip area as the first armour spearheads come within visual sight of the Raisina hill.

saar, whyfor you are using nazi wehrmacht analogy? Doesn't Modi have enough people calling him nazi?

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 19 Apr 2014 00:08

Temples are properties of deities and maximum caretakers can spend money for yearly expenditures. Money should be spent for betterment of marga of deities.

Government looting temples is plain anti-Hindu and loot of temple resources under pseudo secular garb of social welfare which is job of government in the first place. However pseudo seculars have turned this, without any rights of planning for religious expenditures, into welfare routine.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 19 Apr 2014 01:08

Watched that Modi interview to CNBC-Awaaz's Sanjay Pugalia.

With two sentences he made more Varanasis vote for him than Khuljiwal's two weeks of Rona-Dhona. Very interesting he chose Australia & America and Hyderabad & Varanasi

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 19 Apr 2014 01:23

^^ which interview sir?

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 19 Apr 2014 01:32

Prem Kumar wrote:On a lighter note, here is a small guest piece I wrote in MyFakingNews making fun of NCP candidate Praful Patel (for using Modi's photo while campaigning)

Election Commission to rename April 1 as “A Praful’s Day”

Good humor Prem Kumar ji. Hope to see much more from that factory on your shoulders!

AkshayM · Post by **AkshayM** » 19 Apr 2014 01:35

vivek.rao

http://hindi.moneycontrol.com/tv/view_v ... tono=98891

sivab · Post by **sivab** » 19 Apr 2014 01:36

Not sure if this interview to a Tamil TV channel was posted.

Modi says wave is now becoming Tsunami across country at 1:50

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WixsYOCsFY

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 19 Apr 2014 01:36

Being Muslim Under Narendra Modi
BASHARAT PEER ( Trulely Secular and Neutral Fuddu)
This Racist Akhbar & BDYs Should Stop Insulting The Intellignece of Indian people

AHMEDABAD, India — Late last month I bought an Indian comic book online. I hadn’t bought one since the mid-80s, when I was a boy and would walk to the bookstore in my hometown in Kashmir to pick up copies of D.C. and Marvel Comics, or Amar Chitra Katha, a series based on the lives of major contemporary, historical and mythological figures in India. My latest purchase, “Bal Narendra” (“Boy Narendra”), was styled after Amar Chitra Katha.I turned the pages with a mixture of anticipation and foreboding. The book purports to tell stories from the childhood of Narendra Modi, the longtime chief minister of Gujarat, one of the richest states in India, and the polarizing Hindu nationalist candidate for prime minister in the ongoing election. The tales are part of Mr. Modi’s high-octane campaign effort to present himself as a bearer of good governance, growth and efficiency.Bal Narendra, the son of a tea-seller in a small town of Gujarat, embodies many virtues: courage, wit, diligence, fairness, compassion. He sells tea at a village fair to raise money for flood victims. In devotion to the religious tradition of his village, he swims across a lake full of crocodiles and hoists a flag on top of a temple on an island. When some bullies rough up a weaker child at school, he marks them by throwing ink from his fountain pen on their shirts and denounces them to the principal.The publishers of the comic book — available exclusively from Infibeam, an Amazon-like online retailer run by a Gujarati entrepreneur close to Mr. Modi — would have you believe that now that he is all grown up, Bal Narendra is just as brave, clever and just. If anything, however, Mr. Modi’s public record paints the picture of a leader unapologetically divisive and sectarian.It was on his watch as chief minister that more than 1,000 people, many of them Muslims, were killed throughout Gujarat in 2002, when rioting erupted after some 60 Hindus died in a burning train in Godhra. A Human Rights Watch report that year asserted that the state government and local police officials were complicit in the carnage.
Mr. Modi has not visited the camps of the Muslims displaced by the violence or apologized for his government’s failure to protect a minority. Instead, he has described the reprisal killings of Muslims that year as a simple “reaction” to an “action,” namely the deaths of the Hindu train passengers — and has said he felt as sad about them as would a passenger in a car that accidentally ran over a puppy. His only regret, he once told a reporter for this paper, was failing to manage the media fallout.Even as candidate for prime minister, Mr. Modi has not given up his sectarian ways. Nor has his party, the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party. Of the 449 B.J.P. candidates now running for seats in the lower house of Parliament, all but eight are Hindu. The party’s latest election manifesto reintroduces a proposal to build a temple to the Hindu god Ram on the site of a medieval mosque in the northern town of Ayodhya, even though the destruction of that mosque by Hindu extremists and B.J.P. supporters in 1992 devolved into violence that killed several thousand people.Amit Shah, a former Gujarat minister and Mr. Modi’s closest aide, is awaiting trial for the murder of three people the police suspect of plotting to assassinate Mr. Modi. (Mr. Shah calls the charges a political conspiracy.) He has made speeches inciting anti-Muslim sentiment among Hindu voters, including in Uttar Pradesh, the most populous state in India, despite an outbreak of sectarian violence there last September.The problem isn’t just about rhetoric. Judging by the evidence in Gujarat, where Mr. Modi has been chief minister since 2001, a B.J.P. victory in the general election would increase marginalization and vulnerability among India’s 165 million Muslims.Ahmedabad, Gujarat’s largest city, has become a wealthy metropolis of about six million people and three million private vehicles. Office complexes, high-rise apartments, busy markets and shopping malls have replaced the poor villages that once dotted the land. The city has a mass transit system called People’s Path, with corridors reserved for buses.But Ahmedabad ceases to swagger in Juhapura, a southwestern neighborhood and the city’s largest Muslim ghetto, with about 400,000 people. I rode around there last week on the back of a friend’s scooter. On the dusty main street was a smattering of white and beige apartment blocks and shopping centers. A multistory building announced itself in neon signs as a community hall; a restaurant boasted of having air-conditioning. The deeper we went into the neighborhood, the narrower the streets, the shabbier the buildings, the thicker the crowds.The edge of the ghetto came abruptly. Just behind us was a row of tiny, single-story houses with peeling paint. Up ahead, in an empty space the size of a soccer field, children chased one another, jumping over heaps of broken bricks. “This is The Border,” my friend said. Beyond the field was a massive concrete wall topped with barbed wire and oval surveillance cameras. On the other side, we could see a neat row of beige apartment blocks with air conditioners securely attached to the windows — housing for middle-class Hindu families.Mr. Modi’s engines of growth seem to have stalled on The Border. His acclaimed bus network ends a few miles before Juhapura. The route of a planned metro rail line also stops short of the neighborhood. The same goes for the city’s gas pipelines, which are operated by a company belonging to a billionaire businessman close to Mr. Modi.
Mr. Pathan has been living in Juhapura since 1988, when his father, a retired district judge, bought a house here from a Hindu man. “My father said, ‘When the storm comes, you don’t get more than 10 minutes to run,"’ Mr. Pathan explained, referring to the threat of sectarian violence. When I walked around Citizens’ Nagar last week, the brown mountain was burning into thick gray clouds under a harsh afternoon sun. The wind pushed pungent fumes toward the tenements. I struggled to breathe and feared I would vomit.That evening, back in my hotel room, I read another story from the comic book “Bal Narendra.” The boy is at a camp of the National Cadet Corps — the Indian version of the Eagle Scouts — when he notices a pigeon in a tree entangled in the strings of a kite. Holding a razor blade between his teeth, he climbs up, cuts the lines and frees the injured bird. I remembered Juhapura’s putrid water and the carcasses on the brown mountain, and wondered how a Prime Minister Narendra would wield that blade.

Basharat Peer is the author of “Curfewed Night,” a memoir of the conflict in Kashmir.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Apr 2014 01:42

vivek.rao wrote:^^ which interview sir?

Narendra Modi's Exclusive Interview With Cnbc awaaz -

YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb9jda3It8c

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AkshayM · Post by **AkshayM** » 19 Apr 2014 01:44

mwaaahhhaaaaa

if you haven't watched already, check out the raj thackeray response to rajdeep. classic. And he is very clear he wants Modi ji as PM, no if's and buy's.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/raj-thackera ... 37-64.html

disha · Post by **disha** » 19 Apr 2014 01:50

And here is Modi's interview with CNBC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb9jda3It8c

PS: Chetak already posted it.

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 19 Apr 2014 01:58

RajeshA wrote:
Prem Kumar wrote:On a lighter note, here is a small guest piece I wrote in MyFakingNews making fun of NCP candidate Praful Patel (for using Modi's photo while campaigning)

Election Commission to rename April 1 as “A Praful’s Day”
Good humor Prem Kumar ji. Hope to see much more from that factory on your shoulders!

Thanks Rajesh-ji: will try to keep it coming.

Here is the link to my tweet about this. RT if you liked it https://twitter.com/VogonPoem/status/457181824792674304

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 19 Apr 2014 02:12

Modi contacts Geelani on Kashmir’
An Old Permanent Idiot Chime In
[quote]SRINAGAR – All Parties Hurriyat Conference (APHC-G) Chairman Ali Shah Geelani has said that the Bharatiya Janata Party sent emissaries of prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi in March this year to seek his commitment on the Kashmir issue, an Indian newspaper reported on Friday.“Modi sent his people to various (Hurriyat) leaders. Two people came to meet me on March 22 and asked me to talk to him to get his commitment on Kashmir issue,” the Hindustan Times newspaper quoted Geelani as saying. “I rejected their proposal telling them that Modi is an RSS man and we know his party’s policy on Kashmir."Geelani's disclosure will definitely raise a few eyebrows as the BJP has been maintaining a policy of distance from Kashmiri leaders. “Those who said Modi’s policy would be soft as prime minister have actually met his emissaries,” he said without naming Mirwaiz Umar Farooq and Jamaat-e-Islami chief Muhammad Abdullah Wani./quote]

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 19 Apr 2014 02:30

muraliravi wrote:
sunnyP wrote:He talks a lot of sense - a very pragmatic man who puts his point across succinctly. Will be a good spokesman for the BJP.

it will be an understatement to say that I am very very scared that this WKK has joined BJP. We need to watch him with utmost scrutiny.

Based on what he says in this interview, MJ Akbar comes across as someone very grounded rather than WKK. Perhaps he was WKK before and now has undergone a change...I don't know. But if people with views like what he espoused in the interview, are supporting Modi it is definitely a big victory for Modi and a big defeat for clowns like Kejri, Sonia and Rahul who want to indulge in fear-mongering rather than solving the hard tangible economic challenges that India faces.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 19 Apr 2014 02:42

I think Modi is a contributing member on BRF. On the puppy issue he used my example of in India people say Cheeti bhi mar jaati hai, or a fly does not mean comparing a fly, cheeti with a person. Then the left-right terminology thing. Now which one of you is Narendra Modi hain?

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 19 Apr 2014 02:50

harbans wrote:I think Modi is a contributing member on BRF. On the puppy issue he used my example of in India people say Cheeti bhi mar jaati hai, or a fly does not mean comparing a fly, cheeti with a person. Then the left-right terminology thing. Now which one of you is Narendra Modi hain?

Guess which one?

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 19 Apr 2014 02:56

SriKumar · Post by **SriKumar** » 19 Apr 2014 03:11

sivab wrote:Not sure if this interview to a Tamil TV channel was posted.

Modi says wave is now becoming Tsunami across country at 1:50

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WixsYOCsFY

This is quite an interview (he speaks in English). At 2:50 the interviewer asks him 'you formed a 3rd front in TAmil Nadu, can you categorically state that you will not seek support from the DRavidian parties after elections'. Modi's response: "People will not give me that opportunity at all. I will not need the support. People will give NDA an unprecedented mandate" At the end (last 1 or 2 minutes), the interviewer asks: Sonia said 'xxxxx' about you, how do you respond. MOdi's response: "Let people judge. I have a track record. Sonia has a tape record.

Let them see both and judge on their own."

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 19 Apr 2014 03:14

sivab wrote:Not sure if this interview to a Tamil TV channel was posted.

Modi says wave is now becoming Tsunami across country at 1:50

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WixsYOCsFY

a good interview. and it is good that he is giving time to vernacular press.

puthiya thalaimurai (new generation) - is a pretty decent tamil news channel that is not allied or run by a political party.

the interview with thanthi tv should be more interesting if rangaraj pandey conducts it. his interviews are generally good where he does ask hard questions but never shouts or harangues like the english media loud motormouths

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 19 Apr 2014 03:31

but PT channel shows a lot of congi ads, who owns it?

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 19 Apr 2014 03:38

Gus wrote:
sivab wrote:Not sure if this interview to a Tamil TV channel was posted.

Modi says wave is now becoming Tsunami across country at 1:50

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WixsYOCsFY
a good interview. and it is good that he is giving time to vernacular press.

puthiya thalaimurai (new generation) - is a pretty decent tamil news channel that is not allied or run by a political party.

the interview with thanthi tv should be more interesting if rangaraj pandey conducts it. his interviews are generally good where he does ask hard questions but never shouts or harangues like the english media loud motormouths

"rangaraj pandey"

North South amalgamation.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 19 Apr 2014 03:46

Rangaraj Pandey Ragunathacharya. pic from his FB. not a self denying DIE for sure,

disha · Post by **disha** » 19 Apr 2014 03:47

Dhananjay wrote:
harbans wrote:I think Modi is a contributing member on BRF. On the puppy issue he used my example of in India people say Cheeti bhi mar jaati hai, or a fly does not mean comparing a fly, cheeti with a person. Then the left-right terminology thing. Now which one of you is Narendra Modi hain?

Guess which one?

+100

Modi saying that it is neither left nor right but humane ideology basically means "Dharma" in angrezi context!!

Who are Liberatis? Just like chatterattis, who talk but do not do anything., liberatis appear to be liberals but are communal and racists to the core.

Let the liberatis () argue among themselves if it is right or left or dharma or adharma. Note libtards are blind followers of liberatis.

Liberatis exist everywhere in universe., onshore, offshore, near shore, in air, on land and under sea as well. You may find an entire set in pakhanistan as well.

Examples of liberatis

* Briturds advising Indians on democracy and elections
* Amerikhans feeling good about themselves (doing something like apna-haath-...) by pointing out flaws in the Indian democracy.
* Bollywood actors - they go on air trying to proclaim themselves as liberatis.

All the liberatis are going to have a communal Big-O on May 16, 2014.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 19 Apr 2014 03:56

Well there is no democracy that is perfect.. I'd consider crticism as constructive always with little ego tucked inside our pockets a bit.. but then, have limitations on based on truth and fairness.