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SwamyG wrote:Modi could charter RM to write the 21st century Bharatiya Smriti.
SwamyG Sahib:

While I agree with the idea and the need, I don't think the GOI should order it. IMHO such projects should be commissioned and funded by non-Govt organizations/ individuals.

A number of Hindutva initiatives that JohneeG and others on this thread are asking for (like Ram Mandir etc), should also IMHO be led by non-Govt organizations. If the GOI does not actively suppress Hindus as it does now, then Hindu organizations can, constitutionally, achieve a lot of Hindutva goals on there own IMHO.
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Saral wrote:As to what Subramaniam Swamy will do is an even more interesting question.
I hope he becomes Finance Minister or External Affairs Minister.
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Free up temples and temple trusts. Let them do all this. Decentralise all this. Let them setup a few hundred schools and hospitals. Then we'll see the crowds outside St.xxx today migrate to these schools and hospitals.
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what modi said in short from my understanding of watching the thanthi interview is his priority on making people believe first that political process engineering and corrections to reduce bureaucracy.

lot of file movings will happen fast, things will executed on the fly, etc.. he must also be careful on the kangrez and aapturd jhaduwalas that they may sweep under the carpet for clean money tags. make things transparent.

decentralizd power, fast execution, focused schedule.. all agile principles
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KLNMurthy wrote:I don't know how much notice this got but in the Dinamani interview Modi made a statement that India will consider itself responsible for the well-being of Indians everywhere--not clear if he meant Indian citizens or PIOs. Anyway, it sounded like a reversal of the policy since Nehru's time that, if an Indian took up residence outside India, then he or she should not expect India to come to his / her aid and support.
This is where one appreciates Modi's political acumen and grasp of regional dynamics. Do you remember the countries he listed :mrgreen: ? A tamilian would quickly conclude that those countries have large tamilian population, while other Indians could infer differently. One stone, dozen mangoes onlee. It was almost like the 'Gopal Tooth powder" commercial. Sorry older tamilians who listen to radio would catch the reference.
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i switched over to vicco vajradanti .. make sure that goes in to clear all ENT issues first.. during morning call, and then use colgate total followed by latest gen mouth washes. bhaat to do.. i have to appear good with next gen kids, and at the same time keep up with my old habbits.

modi will do that i am sure.
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Kakkaji wrote:
SwamyG wrote:Modi could charter RM to write the 21st century Bharatiya Smriti.
SwamyG Sahib:

While I agree with the idea and the need, I don't think the GOI should order it. IMHO such projects should be commissioned and funded by non-Govt organizations/ individuals.

A number of Hindutva initiatives that JohneeG and others on this thread are asking for (like Ram Mandir etc), should also IMHO be led by non-Govt organizations. If the GOI does not actively suppress Hindus as it does now, then Hindu organizations can, constitutionally, achieve a lot of Hindutva goals on there own IMHO.
Ahem Ahem Ahem. I said Modi not Indian Government :rotfl:

On a serious note, the Kanchi Sankarcharya has inspired at least 3 individuals to start India's best eye care institutions. One of them is a distant relative of mine, very distant. Similarly, if Modi provides the fertile ground by clearing the hurdles, then folks like RM can mix tradition and modernity nicely to weave a fascinating smriti fit for 22nd century.
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Modi has given more governance ideas in last 60 days than Congress in last 60 years
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AkshayM wrote:Modi has given more governance ideas in last 60 days than Congress in last 60 years
tweeted 8)
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Prasad wrote:Free up temples and temple trusts. Let them do all this. Decentralise all this. Let them setup a few hundred schools and hospitals. Then we'll see the crowds outside St.xxx today migrate to these schools and hospitals.
I hope someone reaches Modiji directly and push this.

Would this move upset Brahmins or Poojaris with vested interests in temples? Curious. No offense intended for any one
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Kakkaji wrote:
SwamyG wrote:Modi could charter RM to write the 21st century Bharatiya Smriti.
SwamyG Sahib:

While I agree with the idea and the need, I don't think the GOI should order it. IMHO such projects should be commissioned and funded by non-Govt organizations/ individuals.

A number of Hindutva initiatives that JohneeG and others on this thread are asking for (like Ram Mandir etc), should also IMHO be led by non-Govt organizations. If the GOI does not actively suppress Hindus as it does now, then Hindu organizations can, constitutionally, achieve a lot of Hindutva goals on there own IMHO.
:(( Saar,
actually I am not asking for any Hindhuthva initiatives.(Of course, I'll be happy if there are Hindhuthva initiatives). I am only opposed to the argument,'lets have development, Hindhuthva can wait'. That argument assumes that Hindhuthva and development cannot go hand in hand. And I am opposed to it. Thats all.

I think for any sarkaar delivering on ideological issues i.e. social/political is easy than to deliver on economic issues(i.e. development). Development takes more effort and time apart from skills and resources. It also takes more time to start showing results. On the other hand, social/political issues i.e. ideological issues are easy to deliver merely by political power. For example, Indira inserted 'secular' and 'socialist' into preamble of constitution. Nehru brought many reforms to Hindhu society. These are easy. Because all you need is political power. So, they are easy to deliver. Even UPA has tried to deliver on its ideological issues by bringing in communal violence bill.

But, delivering on development is more long term and takes more effort due to skills, management and resources. Even if Modi starts doing everything right, it may take some time before the results are evident. Till then, Modi can earn some easy brownie points from people by delivering on ideological issues. But, there is a method in doing that. First, one needs to show that its a good thing. And then, deliver it. That brings a lot of easy brownie points for any sarkaar.

At the same time, keep working on development. I am not saying even for a minute that development(i.e. roads/railways/ports/airports, electricity, communication network, water, jobs, agriculture, ...etc) should be avoided and Hindhuthva should be given priority. I am saying that both can go hand in hand. Hindhuthva items are easy to deliver(if one has political power) and it gives an impression that changes are happening.(The same applies to going after the corrupt and anti-nationals). On the other hand, development will take some time to fructify.

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I think the first step is to start setting up universities that can churn out right candidates and also create the right jobs for these candidates. For example, create sanskruth university(s). Now, if there are job opportunities for people who know sanskruth, then many young people will learn sanskruth. How to create job opportunities for people who know sanskruth? Well, one can have the option of taking certain entrance exams(like railway entrance) in sanskruth. One can make sanskruth mandatory on national billboards. One can subsidize sanskruth media. ...etc. Once sanskruth friendly policies are in place, it creates jobs for people who know sanskruth. So, people can go to sanskruth university(s) and learn sanskruth and then get job. (If one can insert inglish, a totally alien language into Bhaarath, then surely one can create opportunities for Sanskruth, if one is interested).

I think universities are the key. MMJ has right inclinations, but he comes across clumsy. But, his efforts in NCERT were good. I think since MMJ is already tarnished and since he does not seem to care much about his reputation, he should be used to push in all kinds of things... a sort of use and throw. For example, have MMJ for an year as hrd mini-star, clean up the whole commie cabal and the ncert syllabus. Then, remove MMJ when there are too many protests. Of course, by then the job would be done. But, before such a move, there needs to preparations to create alternative structures and candidates to the present commie cabal.

I think MMJ was right because what is being pushed in hrd by the commies is most dangerous. More dangerous in the long term than everything else. It is striking at the very root. So, immediate clean up is important otherwise the very roots of the dhesh are being eaten away by the rats to fell the giant tree.

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I think that article which talks about Modi's hounding by NGOs just shows that amirkhan can never be dhesh's friend.
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ragha.batluri wrote:wow, so much passion in that protest
pankajs wrote:Folks watch this vid on facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=782623131748426

केजरी साहेब का केशव पान भंडार, लंका, वाराणसी पे, विरोध. (Protest against Farzi at AAP meeting, Keshav Paan Bhandar, Lanka, Varanasi)
Ak49 sounds like Danny Devitto from the movie "Other People's Money". As he is moving into a factory in a Limo he says hurray hurray from a sound proof Limo even as 100's are protesting outside.
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vivek.rao wrote:
Prasad wrote:Free up temples and temple trusts. Let them do all this. Decentralise all this. Let them setup a few hundred schools and hospitals. Then we'll see the crowds outside St.xxx today migrate to these schools and hospitals.
I hope someone reaches Modiji directly and push this.

Would this move upset Brahmins or Poojaris with vested interests in temples? Curious. No offense intended for any one
who cares.. have you heard church school at every 5 miles in massa?

we should have free temple schools every 5 kms... guiding top notch kids. bring back the old vedic math to counter the space age!

but i agree sauchalya first.
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HindolSengupta ‏@HindolSengupta 47m

http://forbesindia.com/article/india-bu ... se/11322/0 … / How #Gujarat transformed its agricultural and now has one of the lowest rates of farmer suicides.
The onset of summer in the Saurashtra region of Gujarat can be a frightening prospect. The rocky terrain of low hills and the semi-arid plains begin to radiate immense heat. Rivers and wells dry up in tandem. Water shortage looms large and the memory of the severe drought of 1999-2000 returns to haunt. God bless the man who tries to indulge in cultivation of crops in these parts.

But that’s exactly what hundreds of farmers do several times a year in the heart of this unfriendly terrain. Wheat, cotton, banana, papaya, sugarcane, tomatoes and a variety of other crops sprout all over, erasing forever the cliché of Saurashtra being a parched expanse.

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The swamiji is not alone. The entire region of Saurashtra, along with neighbouring Kutch, a half-desert, half-salty marsh region, has become the engine of a farming revolution in Gujarat, propelling the state into one of the fastest growing agricultural economies in the country. Gujarat’s agriculture has grown 9.6 percent per year in the last decade or so, surpassing the national growth rate of 2.9 percent and boosting rural incomes.

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“Although widely lauded for adopting an aggressive industrial policy that has made Gujarat a much-favoured destination for investment, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) has actually devoted a great deal of energy and resources to accelerating agricultural growth in the state through a broad spectrum of policy initiatives,” say agricultural scientist Ashok Gulati and four others in an article published by the Economic and Political Weekly.
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vivek.rao wrote:
Prasad wrote:Free up temples and temple trusts. Let them do all this. Decentralise all this. Let them setup a few hundred schools and hospitals. Then we'll see the crowds outside St.xxx today migrate to these schools and hospitals.
I hope someone reaches Modiji directly and push this.

Would this move upset Brahmins or Poojaris with vested interests in temples? Curious. No offense intended for any one
Very few temples have the poojaris in a dominant position. Atleast in TN. Vested interests? You mean like the non-hindu hindus and ej's and every other a$$hole who is eyeing the wealth in all our temples? Hell yeah.
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vivek.rao wrote:
Prasad wrote:Free up temples and temple trusts. Let them do all this. Decentralise all this. Let them setup a few hundred schools and hospitals. Then we'll see the crowds outside St.xxx today migrate to these schools and hospitals.
I hope someone reaches Modiji directly and push this.

Would this move upset Brahmins or Poojaris with vested interests in temples? Curious. No offense intended for any one
No. Families owning the temple would be upset but they would be less than 10 % of total B population. Make big temples "Swayatta Sanstha" and employ Brahmins there. Redistrube the temple wealth among Brahmins and make them independent first along with other revolutionaries ideas.
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AFAIK, the Sikh Gurudwaras are managed by the Shiromani Gurudwara Prabandhak Committee that is elected by the votes of Sikhs in direct elections. I think a similar directly-elected 'Hindu Mandir Prabandhak Committee' should be elected directly by votes of Hindus in every state. Let this committee manage the temples (and the donations received by them), appoint the priests, pay their salaries, and use surplus funds in activities that benefit the Hindu samaj.

The accounts of these committees will have to be regularly audited by Government and independent auditors.

JMT
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Singh's Last Sigh; Statistics, Optics and the Harsh Reality

http://www.newindianexpress.com/opinion ... 177972.ece
Over the past week, the office of the PM, and his acolytes, have been at pains to burnish the legacy of Manmohan Singh. On Friday, the PMO re-purposed and re-presented a ladder of numbers as an argument to bolster the achievements of 10 years—that per capita income had gone up, that per capita expenditure had gone up, that Sensex had vaulted five times to 22,000-plus, that wages were up, that food grain output was up… and so on.

Yes, India’s per capita income grew 2.5 times from $630 in 2004 to $1,550 in 2012 (World Bank Data). The difficulty in the definition of any achievement is relativity. How did India do relative to its BRICS peers? Per capita income of China went up from nearly four times, that of Brazil 3.5 times, that of Russia 3.7 times, and that of Indonesia trebled from $1,090 to $3,420. Indeed, India has done just better than what the World Bank groups as sub-Saharan Africa where per capita incomes have gone up from $ 627.44 to $1,349.64 between 2004 and 2014.

Per capita incomes would have been higher if growth had been sustained. Thanks to the autonomous anarchy in the Cabinet, clearances were blocked and growth stalled. It is estimated that over 2,200 investment proposals worth `12 lakh crore in the private sector dating to 2008 are outstanding, stalled or abandoned. Is it any surprise that manufacturing output has been hovering around negative for three years? India’s economy was also shackled by inflation caused by the entitlement epidemic. Yes, there was a slowdown globally, but that doesn’t explain the halving of GDP growth from 8-plus per cent to 4-plus per cent.

There are other claims for glory too. The rights to information, employment, education and food security followed up by more numbers on gross enrolment, credit for farmers, higher health care outlays, higher life expectancy, initiatives for skill development and even a startling one about declining unemployment.

The problem with operation burnish is that there is a constant juggling of policy and of outcomes, between intent and achieved results. Let us look at one aspect: hunger. There is much talk about food grain output, wage rise, consumption expenditure and right to food security. India is the only large democracy outside Africa among 19 countries with alarming levels of hunger worse off than Bangladesh, Pakistan and even Djibouti, Niger and Congo. In 2004, Malawi was ranked 94th and India 96th of 119 countries on the Global Hunger Index. In 2013, Malawi is ranked 40th and India is 63rd of 78 countries.

Sure, spending across social sectors on health, education and human development has shot up from `1.75 lakh crore in 2004-05 to `7.10 lakh crore in 2012-13 (Centre plus states). Despite this, India’s ranking on the UN Human Development Index slipped from 127th in 177 countries in 2004 to 136th in 186 in 2012. For the many acronym schemes that India boasts of in the area of education, it lags in both literacy and in mean years of schooling (which delivers higher growth). Forget China, in literacy, India trails Cape Verde, Vanuatu and Tajikistan and is behind Ghana and Kyrgyzstan in mean years of schooling. The point is achievement cannot be simply about sheer spending. The government cannot merely be a teller counter that spews out outlays with no accountability for outcomes.

The reason why India didn’t do better is located in the political arrangement which has led to the arraignment of this regime. By definition, the leadership is required to take risks and deliver. Theoretically, the UPA did what the NDA did before it—allocated spectrum, allocated coal blocks sans auction, for instance. The reason why order didn’t collapse under the NDA is because is because there was due diligence and ownership of decisions.

The UPA regime was marked by a remarkable absence of ownership. Whether it is the controversy over the imposition of President’s Rule in Jharkhand, the explanation of the many scams, the defence of government policy before constitutional bodies, the buck just didn’t stop, it was sent into a spin. When the anti-corruption movement took off, the government neither assured agitators nor countered them. The many blockades in Parliament were consequences of political vipassana practiced by the government. When young girls and boys took to the streets against assault and rape of women, the chief executive was neither heard nor seen. Yes, there was the nuclear deal which made Singh the King, but the one time the regime stood up to be counted is really the exception that proves the rule.

In a democracy, the government of the day—regardless of the arrangement—is obliged to explain decisions and indecisions. It is what bestows legitimacy to the regime and it is what the UPA squandered.
Low hanging fruits for Modi. Easiest way to set the ball rolling and jump start economic activity.
It is estimated that over 2,200 investment proposals worth `12 lakh crore in the private sector dating to 2008 are outstanding, stalled or abandoned.
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Folks can we stick to topic and not have our own wish-lists driving discussion?

Thanks.
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matrimc wrote:Chaanakya do you have a date? Us it reported in any Indian or foreign print media?
Today I asked in detail. It was not thrashing, but hooting/heckling by the Public in a public meeting in Bhubaneshwar one month before his death , i.e. in the year 1964 on 27th May. So the incident would have happened in April. In the Public meeting he was not allowed to speak and unable to bear the public shame he suffered paralysis attack and after one month he left this world. It is also rumoured widely then that his ashes where sprinkled over India ( Hindus generally pour ashes in Holy rivers esp Ganges) and as a consequence of this in 1965-1967 Bihar suffered famine. Although, one should discount this on rational grounds but one should not discount the emotional impact the defeat by China and public anger, death of JLN , Subsequent sprinkling and famine would have on poor superstitious folks. This was assuaged to some extent in 1965 war and then in 1971. That is also the reason why IG was so popular.
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Saral wrote:Subramaniam Swamy and RM go back a long ways. That's how he got the Modi one-on-one meeting (my speculation). Expect him to get a role in the new setting, 100% onlee. Maybe not right away.. but surely by end of the year? As to what Subramaniam Swamy will do is an even more interesting question.
I hope Pradhan Mantri NaMo's Independance Day speech will be written by Sarv Shri Rajiv Malhotra, Subramanian Swamy. :)
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SwamyG >> Its Murali

We just raised a lot of money for one more clinic in WB, a donor from Chicago has donated huge tract of Land for the Hospital
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narendramodi_in ‏@narendramodi_in 12m

She tells Amethi people to take care of her son & tells nation my son will take care of nation: Narendra Modi on Sonia Gandhi
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chaanakya wrote:
matrimc wrote:Chaanakya do you have a date? Us it reported in any Indian or foreign print media?
Today I asked in detail. It was not thrashing, but hooting/heckling by the Public in a public meeting in Bhubaneshwar one month before his death , i.e. in the year 1964 on 27th May. .

In continuation , I found that 68th Session of Congresswas held in Bhibaneshwar and the public could have been illustrious primary members of congress onlee. K Kamraj was president of that session. That was in Jan 1964 though. And there is a reference that he fell ill during that session and never recovered.
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http://mobiletoi.timesofindia.com/mobil ... blabel=TOI
Will build Ram temple,says BJP VP

Will Find Ways To Do So If We Win

| Divy Khare TNN |

Bokaro: In remarks that run contrary to BJPs attempts so far to play down the Ram temple agenda,party vice-president Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi on Saturday raked up the issue,saying the party will pursue the demand if voted to office.
Naqvi told the media that we want a Ram mandir to be built and will find ways to solve the issue within the constitutional framework after forming the government.
Naqvis comments are likely to embarrass BJP that had kept the temple demand on the backburner,barely reiterating it in a line at the end of its manifesto document released on April 7.
Even before the start of the campaign,BJP chief Rajnath Singh and UP in-charge Amit Shah had said that the demand for a Ram temple at Ayodhya was not an electoral issue and should be seen as a matter of faith.
The decision to focus on issues like development and decisive governance,even while tapping the polarization due to the Muzaffarnagar riots,is deliberate as the temple demand is not seen to resonate with voters.
Naqvis comments do not have much traction in the party and seem to fly against BJP prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modis conscious effort to avoid any references to Hindutva issues in his poll speeches.
Earlier in the day,Naqvi hit out at Congress,saying the party has destroyed the country in the last 10 years.
8)

Pranaams to Naqvi Saheb!
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^^Good to see that bjp has allowed enough turbulence that indiv members can speak their minds on controversial issues, thereby keeping the issues alive and the opposition guessing.

Naqvi saab should've said that we'll build the Ram mandir with the help, support and co-operation of the muslim community at large thereby laying the Soddys, pakis, two nation theorists and ummah types to rest.
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^ Sri Naqui saying it is the first IED. Will be followed by more.
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http://indianexpress.com/article/opinio ... a-sera/99/
Around two months ago at the wedding reception of Vaghela’s granddaughter in Gandhinagar, Modi was an honoured guest and he stayed for so long that Ahmed Patel had to wait before entering the reception venue. Patel did not want to be seen at the venue at the same time as Modi.
Hate level: Ahmed Patel.

Sad state of politics.
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this seems to be the plan first Gadkurry then Singh in Bihar and Naq in Orrisa almost simultaneously
laying down IEDs congress and company cannot formulate a proper reply.
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Modi will lose onlee. :(( :(( :((
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Need help, if somebody can.

There was an article by and IAS on how Modi changed things in Gujarat after he took over as CM. How NaMo was silent during all the meetings while none of the officers were allowed to be silent, they had to give their views.........

Can't find in anywhere now. I had saved in one of my 5 fb accounts but that account is suspended for now. Need it urgently........
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and nm and vaghela are suppose to be bitter rivals.Inside talk is nm never seriously tried to defeat vaghela who is from Sangh. Nm has very good relation with many congress leaders who of course never publicly accept it.
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vivek.rao wrote:Obama quietly reverses Hillary’s ‘get Modi’ policy
According to these sources, President Obama "is alarmed at the steep downslide in India-US ties caused by Hillary-style crusades, and wants the relationship to be even better than what it was under the Bush presidency".
If Ombaba is alarms at steep deterioration in Indo US Ties, it is not apparent from the actions of his administration in recent months. And if he wants better relations with India then unleashing of US Dept of State and Bureau of Diplomatic security and Mad Dog Bharara on Indian Diplomats , especially Women Diplomat belonging to Secheduled Caste does not explain it. If someone remembers then USTR actions smacks of old bitter disputes between India and US on Special 301, and recent raking up of disputes on IPR and generic drug production at cheaper rates, does not indicate his desire in his last two years of administration.
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chaanakya wrote:
If Ombaba is alarms at steep deterioration in Indo US Ties, it is not apparent from the actions of his administration in recent months.
I think this is an attempt at scapegoating Hilly Billy before the yellow matter hits the fan in one month.

Some has to take the blame, and sure enough Barak Farziwal Obama is not the one going to.
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Talk is cheap .. we should judge the American or for that matter any nations attitude by its action.

It might also be an attempt to preserve legions of embedded Americans/CIA/NGO wallas that have been granted visa by the UPA government in the name of cooperation on terror/environment/polio/etc. After all the article talks of furriners searching for mass graves in Gujarat and Punjab with the help of local enablers. Who were these people? On what visa were they allowed to enter the country? What was their stated purpose on their visa application forms? Did the UPA government know about these field trips? Who where their local enablers? Did these 'grave seekers' have official help when on field trips? So many question but no answers.

I also remember after the NSA scandal broke and particularly when a particular program was alleged to have a server in Delhi, the state minister was asked about the program, me believes in the parliament. The reply given out was on a different NSA program and that it did not exist in Delhi or something to that effect. I was immediately stuck by the reply and the manner in which the question was evaded! Obviously, the questioner not being familiar with the field let it go at that. The evasive answer to me was also a confirmation that the NSA program was indeed running out of US embassy in Delhi and with full connivance of the UPA government. A non-cooperative Delhi government can reverse a lot of under the table sellout by the previous government.

It would make an interesting study to check on all visa granted to folks from US/Norway/Sweden/other such countries, check affiliations of these folks back home, check their work here, length of their stay, etc.
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Post elections the next Manchurian candidates that the new and hopefully Indic goverment should oust are Mamata and Jaya. Mamata gives ticket to Sugato Basu, relative of Netaji, but apparantly he is part of the Berkeley Haas school anti Indian cabal. She also wanted to give RS ticket to Indira Jaisingh, top most money recipient from Ford Foundation. Jaya actively wanted to sabotage the Kudankulam plant.
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Gujarat has lowest farmer suicide rate: UK study

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new ... 09785.aspx
Reinforcing claims of Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi, a new study by researchers at the University of Cambridge and University College London reveals that the state has high levels of cash crops but lowest levels of farmer suicide rates in India.

The study, published in the journal Globalisation and Health, found that Kerala had the highest male suicide rate in India, and claims that there is a ‘suicide epidemic’ in marginalised areas of Indian agriculture that are at the mercy of global economics.

Modi has often claimed achievements in Gujarat’s agriculture sector that includes low suicide rates of farmers.

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Tracing a link between proportion of cash crops and suicide rate, the study reveals that Gujarat and to a lesser extent Rajasthan have high levels of cash crops and low suicide rates. Both states have among the lowest proportion of marginal farmers.

The analysis of 18 states found that the three states with the highest suicide rates are Kerala, Tamil Nadu, and Andhra Pradesh. The study says that suicide rates tend to be higher in states with greater economic disparity.

The study found farmers at highest risk to have three characteristics: Those who grow cash crops such as coffee and cotton; those with ‘marginal’ farms of less than one hectare; and those with debts of Rs. 300 or more.
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ShankarCag wrote:Post elections the next Manchurian candidates that the new and hopefully Indic goverment should oust are Mamata and Jaya. Mamata gives ticket to Sugato Basu, relative of Netaji, but apparantly he is part of the Berkeley Haas school anti Indian cabal. She also wanted to give RS ticket to Indira Jaisingh, top most money recipient from Ford Foundation. Jaya actively wanted to sabotage the Kudankulam plant.
Does Mamta know that she owes her seat to EVM manipulation by US that led to surprise defeat of communists after they opposed the nuclear deal? Otherwise there is no reason for her to bring US stooges into political circulation in India.
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Amazing picture in the Guardian.Muslims in a gesture of communal harmony showering petals on an RSS parade.Has Mr.Modi brought about this happy melding of all sections of Indians together with a common vision? Certainly not RSVP (Rahul,Sonia,Vadra and Priyanka) !
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/a ... endra-modi
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It must be mind boggling for experts searching graves in India to fail at finding graves, for in USA they would be looking at a graveyard as a normal part of village or a city. Maybe the experts will turn this around as abnormal and put emotional discourse around it, ala "cow worshiping" yindoos.

Remember how Europeans thought themselves as gods of SDRE Hindus when invaders, assumed as guests, were initially welcomed with garlands!
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